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Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 06 Jul 2020, 14:04
by DefendTheTruth
It is important for you now to differentiate between the extrimist elements in the society and the broader mass of the Oromo people, don't lump sum the whole people as your enemies, there are many who will stand with you until the end of the day. We should stand together and isolate and defeate the extrimists, from top to bottom.
The temptation could be high now to see all Oromos as your enemies but that will be neither helpful to seek justice for your loses in terms of human lives and material nor for the interest of the country in the future. We have to sort out the renegade extrimists among us from the honorable members of the great Oromo poeple and save all people and the country.
We have to now organise ourselves not as Oromo, Amhara, Tigre or something similar but as citizens and defend our cause and our country against all dangers coming from the renegades in UNISON. Stop calling yourself Amhara victim, but proud Ethiopian and defend your rights as Ethiopians, we are all in together now!
Start organising the people from bottom to top and allow them to defend themselves and the rest in the community against the mob, that is when we will win in unison and save our country.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 06 Jul 2020, 14:20
by Za-Ilmaknun
Ethiopians wont consider their Oromo brothers as enemies. Infact the great majority of Oromo people are humble and have demonistrated time and again solidarity with other Ethiopians in defending the country against envaders and tyrant home grown butchers.
It is only to serve the intersts of TPLF and other power mongers if we paint any community with broad brush as enemy.
Tigreans are not the enemy, Oromos are not the enemy, or any other ethinc group is not an enemy of the Amhara people. It is the very few organized extremists elits who are bent on snatching power at any cost without regard to the material and human cost to the country in general and to the targeted communities in particular that are the enemy.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 06 Jul 2020, 19:40
by tlel
Amara should focus on house cleaning, illiminating tplf with the government, protecting Nile and borders etc, on the main enemies.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 06 Jul 2020, 20:26
by TGAA
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 14:04
It is important for you now to differentiate between the extrimist elements in the society and the broader mass of the Oromo people, don't lump sum the whole people as your enemies, there are many who will stand with you until the end of the day. We should stand together and isolate and defeate the extrimists, from top to bottom.
The temptation could be high now to see all Oromos as your enemies but that will be neither helpful to seek justice for your loses in terms of human lives and material nor for the interest of the country in the future. We have to sort out the renegade extrimists among us from the honorable members of the great Oromo poeple and save all people and the country.
We have to now organise ourselves not as Oromo, Amhara, Tigre or something similar but as citizens and defend our cause and our country against all dangers coming from the renegades in UNISON. Stop calling yourself Amhara victim, but proud Ethiopian and defend your rights as Ethiopians, we are all in together now!
Start organising the people from bottom to top and allow them to defend themselves and the rest in the community against the mob, that is when we will win in unison and save our country.
The gruesome videos coming out of Oromia shows that the crimes perpetrated by radical elements in Oromia are indeed beyond inhuman. The Oromo Ethiopians have to take the lead to clean this mess. These crimes are committed in their name, if they need help other Ethiopians should stand by to act. However, the number one responsibility for the crime committed in Oromia rested Oromia Police and Oromoia security apparatus that have been looking the other way whenever an ethnic cleansing goes in their neighborhood. Those departments are part of the problem and they are in need of a fundamental overhaul. It happened in November. The security was disarming self-defending communities then passing them to get murdered by the mob. Even in Addis just 5 days a go when youth started to organize and defend their communities the police were not chasing those mobs who came from other areas armed with machete and sticks, instead, they were blaming the youth for the disorder. This is a pattern of treating criminals in gloves that have been going on since 2018 beurayu killings. In the last week's incident when the Federal Police came to the scene the police were able to work with the youth without incident. What made the local polices have a problem working with the youth but the Federal police have none. it is evidence of the rotten nature of the local polices. It was really unbelievable how Takele uma also framed the church bell call. He said the church bell has to ring only when the country is invaded by enemies, adding there was no invader at the time. Really. What an invader would have do more than burning down the church. Although one doesn't need to lend a gas to a fire, the stupid reason given to cover up the underline political agenda, can not and will not build trust between the public and the city administration or any administration for that matter. In order to get out of this quagmire politics and law enforcement, and the legal system needs to be separated completely once and for all.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 06 Jul 2020, 21:13
by sun
TGAA wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 20:26
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 14:04
It is important for you now to differentiate between the extrimist elements in the society and the broader mass of the Oromo people, don't lump sum the whole people as your enemies, there are many who will stand with you until the end of the day. We should stand together and isolate and defeate the extrimists, from top to bottom.
The temptation could be high now to see all Oromos as your enemies but that will be neither helpful to seek justice for your loses in terms of human lives and material nor for the interest of the country in the future. We have to sort out the renegade extrimists among us from the honorable members of the great Oromo poeple and save all people and the country.
We have to now organise ourselves not as Oromo, Amhara, Tigre or something similar but as citizens and defend our cause and our country against all dangers coming from the renegades in UNISON. Stop calling yourself Amhara victim, but proud Ethiopian and defend your rights as Ethiopians, we are all in together now!
Start organising the people from bottom to top and allow them to defend themselves and the rest in the community against the mob, that is when we will win in unison and save our country.
The gruesome videos coming out of Oromia shows that the crimes perpetrated by radical elements in Oromia are indeed beyond inhuman. The Oromo Ethiopians have to take the lead to clean this mess. These crimes are committed in their name, if they need help other Ethiopians should stand by to act. However, the number one responsibility for the crime committed in Oromia rested Oromia Police and Oromoia security apparatus that have been looking the other way whenever an ethnic cleansing goes in their neighborhood. Those departments are part of the problem and they are in need of a fundamental overhaul. It happened in November. The security was disarming self-defending communities then passing them to get murdered by the mob. Even in Addis just 5 days a go when youth started to organize and defend their communities the police were not chasing those mobs who came from other areas armed with machete and sticks, instead, they were blaming the youth for the disorder. This is a pattern of treating criminals in gloves that have been going on since 2018 beurayu killings. In the last week's incident when the Federal Police came to the scene the police were able to work with the youth without incident. What made the local polices have a problem working with the youth but the Federal police have none. it is evidence of the rotten nature of the local polices. It was really unbelievable how Takele uma also framed the church bell call. He said the church bell has to ring only when the country is invaded by enemies, adding there was no invader at the time. Really. What an invader would have do more than burning down the church. Although one doesn't need to lend a gas to a fire, the stupid reason given to cover up the underline political agenda, can not and will not build trust between the public and the city administration or any administration for that matter. In order to get out of this quagmire politics and law enforcement, and the legal system needs to be separated completely once and for all.
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n fact your hate for Oromos seems to be boundless how ever you may try to paint your poisonous arguments with honey. Before you start asking Oromos to clean their houses try to clean your attitude, mouth, your words and your house after which time you may justifiablly come back to ask Oromos for house cleaning from your side. Some of red ar$$$ dirty racists cheap Chimps hate Takele Uuma only because he is an Oromo even though the good mayor tries his best day and night non stop to develop the degenerate Shisha and virus infested city in to a modern, secure, clean and humanist vibrant metropolitan city. Your lumpen BalDiras thugs keep manufacturing all the little direct and indirect dirty tricks and fairy tales, making non stop problems all over the city mainly for purpose of discrediting the government in the eyes of others just like their old redneck neftegna chimp chest pumping tyrants. I am not saying this to disrespect any one but only to put a big mirror infront of you and help you to see yourself starting from your head down to your toes. 
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 06 Jul 2020, 22:07
by TGAA
I welcome that you are putting a big mirror in front of me, and to be honest that is the best thing you can do for me . No one can take away the good deeds Takle has done for Addis Ababa and its residences. There are ardent supporters who stand by him no matter what-- overlooking his shortcomings. It is fine. I happen to be not one of them. I appreciate the good deeds but I don't shy to criticize him when he deserves it. Takle as the mayor of Addis Ababa has a responsibility and obligation to make sure the security of the city is granted. It is not that you don't know except your forgiving heart. Do you know how many times legally registered parties have been chased out of meeting halls by stick welding keeros who came on lorries organized to disrupt? What Takle police dose? they stand at the entrance buddying up with keeros. How many time jawars mob came to the city and went welding their sticks? you might not remember it, but that happened many times I care to count. If Eskender calls a meeting or requests for a demonstration the city administration get worked up and gets crafty to make sure that didn't happen. I can enumerate known incidents of unequal treatment of Ethiopians. The Addis Ababa residences appreciate the positive contribution he has been making but at the same time the uneven handedness of how his administration enforces the rule of the law in Addis robs his accomplishments. Treat Addis Ababa residences like grown-up AS they are, no shenanigans, which will end up in public any way. The Addis Ababa administration with resources and manpower can not be tricked by Balandras- so don't manufacture reasons why they shouldn't be held responsible for their action.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 02:09
by tlel
There is this bizarre thing that from extremist fanatic groups such as Ethoash, if an Oromo happens to commit the crime then the other innocent must also be accountable as well. Aby government should stop this unfair system. The issue is how is the government's heart beating. Tplf when they came to rule Ethiopia changed the demography of Addis by bringing those who benefit them to occupy the city. What needs to be done is bring Addis back to pre Tplf era the demography, where those whose land was snactched under the tplf must get it back. However the current government still repeating what tplf did in Addis, trying to occupy Addis by other for its own support, then it makes it tplf#2 as well.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 02:16
by Zreal
TGAA wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 20:26
However, the number one responsibility for the crime committed in Oromia rested Oromia Police and Oromoia security apparatus that have been looking the other way whenever an ethnic cleansing goes in their neighborhood.
Most of the crimes on Amhara in Oromia region are committed by the help of the Oromia regional police, security apparatus and Qerroo. They are the once who are responsible for all the crimes committed in Oromia.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 15:21
by DefendTheTruth
TGAA wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 20:26
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 14:04
It is important for you now to differentiate between the extrimist elements in the society and the broader mass of the Oromo people, don't lump sum the whole people as your enemies, there are many who will stand with you until the end of the day. We should stand together and isolate and defeate the extrimists, from top to bottom.
The temptation could be high now to see all Oromos as your enemies but that will be neither helpful to seek justice for your loses in terms of human lives and material nor for the interest of the country in the future. We have to sort out the renegade extrimists among us from the honorable members of the great Oromo poeple and save all people and the country.
We have to now organise ourselves not as Oromo, Amhara, Tigre or something similar but as citizens and defend our cause and our country against all dangers coming from the renegades in UNISON. Stop calling yourself Amhara victim, but proud Ethiopian and defend your rights as Ethiopians, we are all in together now!
Start organising the people from bottom to top and allow them to defend themselves and the rest in the community against the mob, that is when we will win in unison and save our country.
The gruesome videos coming out of Oromia shows that the crimes perpetrated by radical elements in Oromia are indeed beyond inhuman. The Oromo Ethiopians have to take the lead to clean this mess. These crimes are committed in their name, if they need help other Ethiopians should stand by to act.
However, the number one responsibility for the crime committed in Oromia rested Oromia Police and Oromoia security apparatus that have been looking the other way whenever an ethnic cleansing goes in their neighborhood. Those departments are part of the problem and they are in need of a fundamental overhaul. It happened in November. The security was disarming self-defending communities then passing them to get murdered by the mob. Even in Addis just 5 days a go when youth started to organize and defend their communities the police were not chasing those mobs who came from other areas armed with machete and sticks, instead, they were blaming the youth for the disorder. This is a pattern of treating criminals in gloves that have been going on since 2018 beurayu killings. In the last week's incident when the Federal Police came to the scene the police were able to work with the youth without incident. What made the local polices have a problem working with the youth but the Federal police have none. it is evidence of the rotten nature of the local polices. It was really unbelievable how Takele uma also framed the church bell call. He said the church bell has to ring only when the country is invaded by enemies, adding there was no invader at the time. Really. What an invader would have do more than burning down the church. Although one doesn't need to lend a gas to a fire, the stupid reason given to cover up the underline political agenda, can not and will not build trust between the public and the city administration or any administration for that matter. In order to get out of this quagmire politics and law enforcement, and the legal system needs to be separated completely once and for all.
It could be possible that there aree some delusioned elements in the police and other institutions of the country and buy to the idea of Oromo is enslaved in Ethiopia, like it is sold to them by the likes of Jawar Mohammed and co. Police is just police, not an intellectual, but to lump sum all into one pot is neither helpful for your acclaimed cause nor for the future of the country and that is what i am trying to highlight with this thread's post.
I don't think you are going to prove to me that the number of members of the police and other security institutions who were died during the current mayhem were from Amhara or some other groups in the country. According to some reports there are at least 20 or so police members, who were also killed, while defending the safety of the people in the country, including members of the Amhara community in the country.
While Engineer Takele Uma's administration was trying to keep apart the feuding parties, your own ideol, Eskinder Nega, was reportedly calling on his allies to come out and start a city based communal violence. Could you even imagine what could have happened if his wish were to be realised?
Do you think Ethiopia would have been the same in just this short period?
What keeps me amazed about your camp's claim is that about the idea of if you are not satisfied with how the likes of Engineer Takele Uma and Dr. Abiy Ahmed are leading the country as members of the Oromo community, and what then are you inviting the rise of the likes of Jawar Mohammed and Daud Ibsa? And do you want to still talk to care about the wellbeing of the country, after wishing the rise of the likes of the latter? I am really amazed about this idea.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 18:59
by TGAA
Let me have a last go at this. Whoever is at the apex of authority has more responsibility in setting up a guiding principle of how things are run. Takele Uma is running the city of 7 million people so he is more responsible than anybody else. you are hanging up who or where he is from, and that is not my issue, It shouldn't be yours. If Eskender is doing as alleged, he should be held responsible. However, he had made his stand many times clear that since the government failed to secure the life of the residences of Ethiopians in different parts of Ethiopia, till that is secured, Ethiopians should organize to defend themselves. There is a phrase used " conflict parties" between this and that group, in actuality, there are an organized group, (call them by whatever name) with the stick and with Matchette who came to ransack and kill.If the government fails to protect the citizens, the citizens are within their right to protect themselves by any means necessary. Had the Takele Uma admisntratin did that and the youth come out to just cause raucous, then Takele is within his right to arrest those people. But the reality on the ground is much different you can call and check yourself . I support Abiy and Takele uma in the majority of cases, but security of the people of Ethiopia is thier most solemn responsibility, I hope they will start taking that responsibility seriously.
Re: Amhara (extrimists) must be very careful now
Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 21:52
by Tiago
Amharas are not extremist nor promote violence.In Ethiopia separatist political parties are kind of extremists which line up uneducated,unsuspecting puppets to do their dirty jobs while promoting groupthink without any form of critical thinking .extremists such as TPLF and various so-called liberation fronts. are rigid,always hold their views as "the truth" while blaming and vilifying "the other" as the arch enemy. Amharas stand for the unity of Ethiopia and formation of democratic governance hence labeling them as extremists is nothing Lies propagated by egoistic ethnic apartheid.promoters.
VIOLENCE is one of the hall marks of Extremists and the current events In Ethiopia should be a good example.