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Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:55
by Revelations

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:00
by Degnet
It is a shame,I will never see that land.They did not know that they are insulting MLK too.They are very narrow minded.The white people will laugh at us.It is the intelligent that suffers most,white or black.

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:14
by Revelations

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:19
by Digital Weyane
የጋና ህዝብ የጋንዲን ሃወልት አፍርሰው በምትኩ የወይዘሮ ኬርያ ኢብራሂምን ሃወልት ሊያቆሙ በማሰባቸው እጅግ ሊመሰገኑ ይገባቸዋል። 8)

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:22
by Revelations

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:27
by Revelations

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:32
by Revelations
In his early writings he referred to black South Africans as "kaffirs" - a highly offensive racist slur. He also said that Indians were "infinitely superior" to black people.


Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:37
by Revelations

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:55
by Revelations
Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?





https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34265882

The authors of a controversial new book on Gandhi's life and work in South Africa certainly believe so. South African academics Ashwin Desai and Goolam Vahed spent seven years exploring the complex story of a man who lived in their country for more than two decades - 1893 to 1914 - and campaigned for the rights of Indian people there.

In The South African Gandhi: Stretcher-Bearer of Empire, Desai and Vahed write that during his stay in Africa, Gandhi kept the Indian struggle "separate from that of Africans and coloureds even though the latter were also denied political rights on the basis of colour and could also lay claim to being British subjects".

They write that Gandhi's political strategies - fighting to repeal unjust laws or freedom of movement or trade - carved out an exclusivist Indian identity "that relied on him taking up 'Indian' issues in ways that cut Indians off from Africans, while his attitudes paralleled those of whites in the early years". Gandhi, the authors write, was indifferent to the plight of the indentured, and believed that state power should remain in white hands, and called black Africans Kaffirs, a derogatory term, for a larger part of his stay in the country.

Racial segregation

In 1893, Gandhi wrote to the Natal parliament saying that a "general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are a little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa".

In 1904, he wrote to a health officer in Johannesburg that the council "must withdraw Kaffirs" from an unsanitary slum called the "Coolie Location" where a large number of Africans lived alongside Indians. "About the mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly."

The same year he wrote that unlike the African, the Indian had no "war-dances, nor does he drink Kaffir beer". When Durban was hit by a plague in 1905, Gandhi wrote that the problem would persist as long as Indians and Africans were being "herded together indiscriminately at the hospital".

This, in itself, say historians, is not entirely new and revelatory. Also, some South Africans have always accused the man who led India to independence of working with the British colonial government to promote racial segregation. In April, a man was arrested in connection with vandalising a statue of Gandhi. A hashtag #Ghandimustfall (sic) has gained circulation on social media.

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 17:08
by Revelations
Councillors, residents and former Labour MP Keith Vaz formed a cordon on Saturday around Mahatma Gandhi’s statue in Leicester, where over 6,000 people signed a petition for the statue’s removal. (HT photo)




Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 17:25
by Degnet
It is very sad to see the end of the world,the old civilazation.yasaznal menakachen yemaiker new

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 17:53
by Degnet
Fkare Jesus(Revelation)

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 19:01
by Revelations
Kerri Pangulier, who started the petition, wrote on the change.org page: "I have received an update from Leicester City Council requesting me to close the petition and formally submit it with presenting arguments."

A city council spokeswoman said: "Although this petition has not yet been submitted to us, these representations will be considered as part of a wider conversation about the context, relevance and appropriateness of street names, statues and monuments in the city.

"In such a culturally-diverse city as Leicester, it's important that we respect the histories of all our communities and understand the context for the historical references that are part of our streetscape and built environment."


Former Leicester East MP Keith Vaz said the statue was "going nowhere"

Former MP Keith Vaz said the sculpture was "going nowhere".

The former politician, who attended an unveiling ceremony in 2009, said: "This is the way we honour Mahatma Gandhi who wanted peaceful protest and peaceful activity.

"He was never someone who believed in violence and he did not believe people should act as a mob to remove things.

"We hope very much Leicester City Council and others will realise this statue stays.

"It is going nowhere. All of us are here symbolically to protect it."

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 21:01
by Lakeshore
He was a Coward as most Indians are. In order to appease the oppressor and exploit the loophole, he spoke ill. India is a bit different from Ethiopia they have been consolized for more than 400 years. There are broken peoples. At times they thought colonialism especially the British empire as undefeatable. Then this guy started a civil disobedient and peaceful protest because they didn't think they could remove British rule by force.

At that time it looks like that was the only alternative to fight the British. The British Empire also recognizes that change is coming whether they like it or not but they seize this opportunity to elongate their time in power. Actually promote him to quail an uprising in India and other British colonies. In order to stay out of prison and alive he sell out a lot of Indian freedom fighters. Gandhi Went to many British colonies and promised to the British that he can help to dump dawn many violent uprising against the British. He went to South Africa, tried to negotiate a better living condition for British servant Indians, he said to the British we are brown peoples we are not fighting you as the blacks do in secret though. This guy made a different speech for different audiences he is a spinless coolie. The hospital in Addis should also rename Abiy hospital or Mengistu Hailemariam hospital.

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 22:28
by Tiago
Leicester has the highest population of people from Indian continent ,about 40% (they are called asians and derogatorily paki,curry muncher ). to be honest,they have no love for black people,even though they tick black :lol: on job application forms when the employer,mostly government Dept,specifically invites applicants from minority backgrounds,they consider blacks as the lowest of the low.
Prof Meena Dhanda from the University of Wolverhampton said it was unsurprising that “the more people have begun reading Gandhi rather than merely idolising him, the more they are finding out about his racism”.

She added: “As scholars have shown, he was terrified of intermixing, he upheld caste rules that restricted marriage outside one’s caste. He stereotyped people, for instance, he wrote – ‘Mussalman as a rule is a bully and a Hindu a coward’ and ‘Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilised’.

“Despite his political actions harnessing the force of ‘non-violence’, his underlying metaphysical views were deeply at odds with modern sensibilities. To use him as an apostle of peace whilst ignoring the very beliefs that cause ruptures within modern diverse communities is ill-advised.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... tue-racism

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 22:54
by tlel
There are so many colonialist mind and salve worker or colonialist breeding in Africa we are doomed. Unless this is photoshop, notice , it is colonialist bbc reporting. I am sure the fanatic olf/tplf have been saying to remove ase Minilik, h/selassie statues. We have idiot slave mentality infesting all over Africa. This is signal that true colonialism is finally coming to Africa. brace yourselves! Ghana is the most advanced in Africa so, I wonder if this is true or the masters told them too? They obviously have no leader that the colonialists have strong hold in Ghana. The same is coming in Ethiopia. Remember, the modern colonialism is not about declaring, or making it obvious. Why those former leaders who fought colonialism? It is because they challenged colonialism. This is prove the recolonization of Africa is now out in open, they had recently Berlin conference.

Is this a joke? BBC actually sayiing Ghandi racist? yes, todays politics yes= no. no=yes

This will embolden EthioRedsea, Ethoash who are slaves.

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 23:02
by tlel
Revelations wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 16:55
Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?





https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34265882

The authors of a controversial new book on Gandhi's life and work in South Africa certainly believe so. South African academics Ashwin Desai and Goolam Vahed spent seven years exploring the complex story of a man who lived in their country for more than two decades - 1893 to 1914 - and campaigned for the rights of Indian people there.

In The South African Gandhi: Stretcher-Bearer of Empire, Desai and Vahed write that during his stay in Africa, Gandhi kept the Indian struggle "separate from that of Africans and coloureds even though the latter were also denied political rights on the basis of colour and could also lay claim to being British subjects".

They write that Gandhi's political strategies - fighting to repeal unjust laws or freedom of movement or trade - carved out an exclusivist Indian identity "that relied on him taking up 'Indian' issues in ways that cut Indians off from Africans, while his attitudes paralleled those of whites in the early years". Gandhi, the authors write, was indifferent to the plight of the indentured, and believed that state power should remain in white hands, and called black Africans Kaffirs, a derogatory term, for a larger part of his stay in the country.

Racial segregation

In 1893, Gandhi wrote to the Natal parliament saying that a "general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are a little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa".

In 1904, he wrote to a health officer in Johannesburg that the council "must withdraw Kaffirs" from an unsanitary slum called the "Coolie Location" where a large number of Africans lived alongside Indians. "About the mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly."

The same year he wrote that unlike the African, the Indian had no "war-dances, nor does he drink Kaffir beer". When Durban was hit by a plague in 1905, Gandhi wrote that the problem would persist as long as Indians and Africans were being "herded together indiscriminately at the hospital".

This, in itself, say historians, is not entirely new and revelatory. Also, some South Africans have always accused the man who led India to independence of working with the British colonial government to promote racial segregation. In April, a man was arrested in connection with vandalising a statue of Gandhi. A hashtag #Ghandimustfall (sic) has gained circulation on social media.
We are now doubting who revelation is..... the same bbc writer, blaming Ghandi as source? Yes, the world will believe that

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 23:08
by almaze
What does next in line expression mean? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 00:37
by Lakeshore
Menilik did teh opposit. He advocate for equality. I quote ሰውን መሸጥ መለወጥ ከዛሬ ጀምሮ ኣይቻልም ጋላም ቢሆን
Even he predicts their way of thinking and add the term ጋላም ቢሆን because Aba Jiffar might argue that Gallas does not have human rights.
The irony is that the same Gall compares him with spineless Ghandi. Shame

Re: Racist Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana [BBC]

Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 00:46
by Digital Weyane
When Mahatma Gandhi came to Ethiopia to steal land, the Weyane from Adwa called him an investor, but we Fenqil called him a land grabber. :roll: :roll: :roll: