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How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 08:10
by eden
I visited Massawa last year. I came across two tanks. They were propped up and water came out shooting. It was late night and the old man guarding the space told us to beat it. Back at the hotel, my guide told me I made the mistake of not tipping lol

I always wondered what battles are like and especially the battle for Massawa. Then, I found this.

Thank you EPLF for keeping record.

(Ignore the propaganda and watch the history)



Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 08:22
by Ethoash
edan

when ever in doubt ask what would the golden kid meles will do...

in መፅዋ case it is easy to recover መፅዋ port all u have to do is pay Eritrean one billion dollar .. in doubt look we took over Djibouti port for two billion dollar .... if u think two billion dollar is to much then think about it how much electricity they going to buy from how much agriculture product they going to buy from them if they r poor they cant buy from us but today they can buy because Meles make them rich by giving them two billion dollar ...

instead of crying we can build hotel and other business in Djibouti instead saying they took our money ... even if we got Assab port back it would not be free because under Dergu we used to lose one million Ethiopian youth to keep the port free. why not pay up ten million dollar at that time rate and we could have avoided the war.. but we r talking about buda Amhara .. they always talk about taking other people land and property..

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 09:20
by tarik
eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:10
I visited Massawa last year. I came across two tanks. They were propped up and water came out shooting. It was late night and the old man guarding the space told us to beat it. Back at the hotel, my guide told me I made the mistake of not tipping lol

I always wondered what battles are like and especially the battle for Massawa. Then, I found this.

Thank you EPLF for keeping record.

(Ignore the propaganda and watch the history)


eden

Good Day Maam

Aren't u 29 years late 4 this topic??? Where have u been all these years? I am just wondering!!! :roll:

Good Day Maam

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 09:27
by eden
lol tarik

A forumer just sent me the link

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 10:39
by EthioRedSea
TPLF liberated Massawa from Derg or Ethiopia military government. The fight was between TPLF and other Ethiopians. Eritrean fighters were loosing the battle against Ethiopia until TPLF joined.

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 11:21
by Zmeselo


EthioRedSea wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 10:39
TPLF liberated Massawa from Derg or Ethiopia military government. The fight was between TPLF and other Ethiopians. Eritrean fighters were loosing the battle against Ethiopia until TPLF joined.

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 11:23
by Zmeselo
I don't, even for a milli second, believe you've ever been to Massawa!!!!

I don't believe in that propaganda. :mrgreen:

eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:10
I visited Massawa last year. I came across two tanks. They were propped up and water came out shooting. It was late night and the old man guarding the space told us to beat it. Back at the hotel, my guide told me I made the mistake of not tipping lol

I always wondered what battles are like and especially the battle for Massawa. Then, I found this.

Thank you EPLF for keeping record.

(Ignore the propaganda and watch the history)



Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 11:32
by sebdoyeley
eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:10
I visited Massawa last year. I came across two tanks. They were propped up and water came out shooting. It was late night and the old man guarding the space told us to beat it. Back at the hotel, my guide told me I made the mistake of not tipping lol

I always wondered what battles are like and especially the battle for Massawa. Then, I found this.

Thank you EPLF for keeping record.

(Ignore the propaganda and watch the history)


I know, what kind of tipping the brother looking for Edu,
a gahba agame wondering at the middle of the night on the street of Massawa, isn`t it too obvious, what he was looking for?
who would miss all this?

Edu, If you really were in Massawa, and you cat-walking at midnight, and A brother knew you are an agame from Tigrai, money would be the least to come to his mind. but what else?
after all, at midnight only one thing is on-sell in Massawa, and that is......................, fill it Edu

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 11:44
by eden
Zemeslo I got no reason to lie but I don't understand why you feel that way. It takes usd 200 from Addis to Asmera, round trip. And 2,000 nakfa to contract a truck w/ driver Massawa and back to Asmera.

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 12:05
by eden
Seb

Actually, it's easier for Ethiopians than Eritreans to visit. The HGDEF mendef makes it miserable for Eritrea diaspora to visit. They don't even let you back out the country without exit visa like north korea

They terrorize you at immigration office for no good reason at all

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 12:17
by sebdoyeley
eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 12:05
Seb

Actually, it's easier for Ethiopians than Eritreans to visit. The HGDEF mendef makes it miserable for Eritrea diaspora to visit. They don't even let you back out the country without exit visa like north korea

They terrorize you at immigration office for no good reason at all
wowowowow Edu , what with insult, we are grown up, and we talk responsibly,
to your argument,who are those people.

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 12:17
by sebdoyeley
eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 12:05
Seb

Actually, it's easier for Ethiopians than Eritreans to visit. The HGDEF mendef makes it miserable for Eritrea diaspora to visit. They don't even let you back out the country without exit visa like north korea

They terrorize you at immigration office for no good reason at all
wowowowow Edu , what with the insult, we are grown up here, and we talk responsibly,
to your argument,who are those people.

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:49
by Follower
eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 12:05
Seb

Actually, it's easier for Ethiopians than Eritreans to visit. The HGDEF mendef makes it miserable for Eritrea diaspora to visit. They don't even let you back out the country without exit visa like north korea

They terrorize you at immigration office for no good reason at all
agames wushetamoch adelum agames raswa wushet nachew

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:54
by Degnet
Rehaku ahya,seb ztsele'e seb kelbi eyu.kulu tseliukum be melhaskum,there is no war needed baelkum ketedrbeyu ikum antum hasawo,ayenay Eritrawi eyu abzey enamtse enatetsarefe zwe'el antum kerdad

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:58
by Degnet
Ethoash wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:22
edan

when ever in doubt ask what would the golden kid meles will do...

in መፅዋ case it is easy to recover መፅዋ port all u have to do is pay Eritrean one billion dollar .. in doubt look we took over Djibouti port for two billion dollar .... if u think two billion dollar is to much then think about it how much electricity they going to buy from how much agriculture product they going to buy from them if they r poor they cant buy from us but today they can buy because Meles make them rich by giving them two billion dollar ...

instead of crying we can build hotel and other business in Djibouti instead saying they took our money ... even if we got Assab port back it would not be free because under Dergu we used to lose one million Ethiopian youth to keep the port free. why not pay up ten million dollar at that time rate and we could have avoided the war.. but we r talking about buda Amhara .. they always talk about taking other people land and property..
Ante ahya,ye hageren sem atansa

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 23:57
by Fed_Up
eden wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:10
I visited Massawa last year.
ተው.. በህግ አምላክ ይዥሀለሁ ሎውላንደሩ... እንዲህማ ቦርቀቅ ብለህ አትቀደድ:: ቀስ እያልክ ተቀደድ እንጂ :: ነገሩ የግብፅ ፔራሚድም እናንተም እይደል ሰራነው ያላችሁን:: ገና ጉድ ታሰሙናላችሁ እኮ:: "እህ" ብሎ የሚሰማ ጀሮ የለም እንጂ

Re: How the Derg lost Mitsiwae

Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 00:48
by Ethoash
Massawa belong to Rashida. not Eritrean Aguma

እነዚህ የኤርትራ አጋሜዎች ከምፅዋ ጋር ምንም የሚያገናኛቸው ነገር የለም ። ምፅዋ የረሻዶች ነው የዳሕላክ ዴሴቶች በሙሉ የረሻዶች ነው። የኤርትራ አጋሜዎች ምንም አይነት ወደብ የላቸውም ሁለቱንም ወድቦች ከራሻዳ እና ከአፋሮች ስርቀው ነው።

እና ታድያ ምን ይጠበስ ካሉ እነዚህ ብስeብስ የኤርትራ አጋሜዎች መልሴ በጣም ቀላል ነው በጣሊያን ኤርትራን በባርነት ሲገዛ ምፅዋ ዋና ከተማ ነበረች ማለትም በጣም የስለጠነች ከተማ ነበረች ከዚያ ጣሊያኖች በንጉስ ዮሐንስ ጥቃት ምክን ያት ሽሽተው ወድ አስመራ ሄደው እዲስ ከተማ ቆረቆሩ። ይህ ነው ታሪኩ በቡዳዎቹ ዘመን ደግሞ ምፅዋ የደርግ የባህር ሐይል ዋና መስሪያ ቤት ሆና ኖራለች ምንም እድገት ሳታመጣ። አስብ ወደብም በነፃ ሲሞጠሞጥ ነበር ወርቃማዎቹ እከሚመጡ ድረስ ። ወርቃማዎቹ ዘመን ኤርትራ ቁጥር አንደኛ ሆነች በቡና ኤክስፖርት ግን አንድም የቡና ዛፍ የላትም። ይህ የመጣው የመለስ አርቆ አሳቢነት ሲሆን ስጥና እንቀበል ንግድ ነበር። አማሮች ግን ኡኡ አሉ እንዴት ኤርትራ አንደኛ ቡና ኤክስፖርተር ት ሆናለች ብለው ። ያልገባቸው ነገር ቢኖር አማሮቹ እኮ አስብን በነፃ ነው የሚጠቀሙት ነበር ። ታድያ ወደቡ ወድ ጅቡቲ ሲዞር ሁለት ቢሊዬን ዶላር መከስከስ ስንጀምር ደግሞ እንዴት ተደርጎ ማለት ጀመሪ ። ምን ለማለት ፈልጎ ነው አስብ በቡዳ አማሮች ስር ትሁን ወይም በኤርትራ አጋሜዎች ስር ትሁን ምንም አያልፍላቸውም

ትግሬዎች ከአማራ ወይም ከኤርትራ አጋሜዎ የላቀ ምፅዋን እና አስብን ያሳድጉ ነበር ። ምንም በማረግ አይደለም ሁለት ቢሊዬን ዶላር በመክፈል ሁለቱን ወደቦች ከአፍሪካ አንደኛ ወድብ ትግሬዎች ያረጉት ነበር። ለሶስት ሺህ ዘመን በምፅዋ ስለተጠቀሙ አጠቃቀሙን ያውቁበታል። ያች አፈር የለበስች ጅቡቲ ዛሬ በአፍሪካ በጣም ታላቁና በጣም ዘመናዊ የሆነ ወደብ አላት። እሱ ሲገርማቹህ ሌላ ወደብ እየስራች ነው ። እሱ ደግሞ ሲገርማቹሁ ሌላ የኢዱስትሪ ፓርክ ትሰራለች ። ከቡዳ አማሮች ከኢትዬዽያ ይልቅ ካፓኒዎች ጁቡቲን የሚመርጡ ይመስለኛል። ለምን ቢባል ምቀኝነት የለም ጁቡቲ ውስጥ። ስራተኛውም እማራ ቢሆንም ቀጥ ለጥ ብሎ በስው አገር ይስራል።ልክ እንደባሪያ ። ግን አማራ አገሩ ላይ የሚስራበትን ኮፓኒ ያቃጥላል በቅናት ብቻ ያ ሁሉ ስለሚቀር ጁቡቲ የዛሬ አስር አመት ሲንጋፑር ትሆናለች።

ጥይቄው አሁን ረሻዳዎች የሳዊዲ ዘሮች ናቸው ሳውዲን አነጋግሮ ወደባቸው ቢስራ አንደኛ በአለም በጣም ትልቅ ወድብ ያለው ምፅዋ ላይ ነው። የተፈጥሮ ጥልቅ ወደብ ይህ ማለት ደግሞ ማንኛውንም ዘመናዊ መርከብ ማስተናገድ ይችላል ማለት ነው። ምፅዋ ወድብ እንዲኖራት ከተፈለገ ። ወይ ምፅዋ ለወርቃማዎቹ መስጠት አለበት እነሱ ናቸው የሚያውቁት ንግዱንና ድርድሩን ወይ ደግሞ የኤርትራ አጋሜዎችን ቀልብ ይግዛላቸው ያለበለዚያ ረሻዶች ነፃነት መብት መጠየቃቸው አይቀሬ ነው። ይህ ማለት ኤርትራ አጋሜዎች ከሳውዲ ጋራ ተጣሉ ማለት ነው። ትግሬዎች ማረግ ያለባቸው ይህንን ጫወታ ለሳዊዲዎች ማሳውቅ ነው።