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Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 10 Jun 2020, 19:00
by DefendTheTruth
Jaanjoo Mohammed claimed at sometime in the past about his "seasoned scholarlier" (ye tewatelet mehur).
In the following statement, which seems to bear his signature, he seems to confuse a government with a party. At least he is also not only recognizing the constitution of the country but also praising it now, wow.
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Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 10 Jun 2020, 20:31
by tolcha
At least he brought some change, with the majority Oromo yongsters struggle and thousands of Oromo youths sacrificed to bring your uncle Gobana to the throne. What the phack did you do for that [deleted] empire, Bedew?
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 05:45
by DefendTheTruth
tolcha wrote: ↑10 Jun 2020, 20:31
At least he brought some change, with the majority Oromo yongsters struggle and thousands of Oromo youths sacrificed to bring your uncle Gobana to the throne. What the phack did you do for that [deleted] empire, Bedew?
change from what? From TPLF's rule? Isn't he begging TPLF to come back and rule over him right now? Didn't a donkey like you go to medaia and claimed TPLF is better than EPP?
Ke donqoro gar mewurat yeselechal!
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 07:42
by banebris2013
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑10 Jun 2020, 19:00
Jaanjoo Mohammed claimed at sometime in the past about his "seasoned scholarlier" (ye tewatelet mehur).
In the following statement, which seems to bear his signature, he seems to confuse a government with a party. At least he is also not only recognizing the constitution of the country but also praising it now, wow.
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DTT,
It is obvious you have issue with Jawar ever since the establishment of OMN. It looks like you are one of those who sat back and wait with out any contribution until things happen. When they do, you start discrediting those who are trying to do something. Had you done even a quarter of what Jawar did, you could have known what it takes. You are becoming like habasha media who never have a news report with out accusing Jawar of something.
Your issue looks like more of plane Jealousy than a good will. Mind you, you have been after Jawar for the last five to six years. What did you achieve?
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 11:32
by DefendTheTruth
banebris2013 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 07:42
DTT,
It is obvious you have issue with Jawar ever since the establishment of OMN. It looks like you are one of those who sat back and wait with out any contribution until things happen. When they do, you start discrediting those who are trying to do something. Had you done even a quarter of what Jawar did, you could have known what it takes. You are becoming like habasha media who never have a news report with out accusing Jawar of something.
Your issue looks like more of plane Jealousy than a good will. Mind you, you have been after Jawar for the last five to six years. What did you achieve?
The same claim again: you claim on the one hand he brought a change and he claims the said change is worse than the previous condition, he said TPLF is much better than EPP (and former OPDO, if you like).
So, your claim is that he brought a change but he himself is discrediting that same change, isn't it?
Would you mind elaborating your claim: "you start discrediting those who are trying to do something" with regard to what they are trying to do concretely (better than what we already have)?
You can call me habesha media or that of the Mars, but truth needs be told. That is the botom line.
If I remember correctly OMN entered into its business claiming to counterpart ESAT, which it dubbed a propaganda machine of the "others" and I was questioning from the beginning how a propaganda machine can then be countered by same another propaganda machine, and I don't think I am proven wrong until today in my reservation.
To your dismay, ESAT is getting more professional and trying to live upto its name, while OMN is taking the deep dive as a media organisation, will cease to operate soon, I guess.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 11:50
by DefendTheTruth
banebris2013,
while you are at it listen also to the following video, it was posted to Mereja forum by a known TPLF cadre, showing sympathy for those who toppled their rule saying a "mass character assassination" by a media linked to the PM.
That is the change you are talking about.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 11:52
by Sam Ebalalehu
DTT, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But you should have pushed back on the claim that Jawar made the change. That is false. If the Lemma team had not existed Jawar's influence of the Querros would not have materialized. Jawar even claimed Abiy is a prime minister because of him.
Well, here is the truth. The Lemma team smoothed out the political power change that was coming. The Americans helped that transition to occur. Finally, the EPDRF politicians who were tired of the TPLF political monopoly freed their conscience and voted to drive out TPLF from political dominance. In this equation Jawar played a tiny part.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 12:33
by DefendTheTruth
Banebris2013,
I think also that you may take pride in the content of the following video, it shows what you called "contribution" and that is what I am "jealous" about and "start discrediting those who are trying to do something" and that something is what you see herein.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 12:43
by DefendTheTruth
Sam Ebalalehu wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 11:52
DTT, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But you should have pushed back on the claim that Jawar made the change. That is false. If the Lemma team had not existed Jawar's influence of the Querros would not have materialized. Jawar even claimed Abiy is a prime minister because of him.
Well, here is the truth. The Lemma team smoothed out the political power change that was coming. The Americans helped that transition to occur. Finally, the EPDRF politicians who were tired of the TPLF political monopoly freed their conscience and voted to drive out TPLF from political dominance. In this equation Jawar played a tiny part.
Sam Ebalalehu,
I think I should have used some words in a quotation mark, so that understanding my message would have been easier.
In fact I have been trying to say from the onset that a change can only be brought about only by those on the ground, right there where the happening occurs. I never subscribed to the notion that someone could bring a change by a remote control from thousands of miles away.
Why Jawar lost his crowd that he used to command before is simply he lost his linchpin in OPDO and now he is simply floating in the air and lost totally what he can take hold of.
I never said that someone shouldn't oppose the current government but there must be some rule of the game, and that rule shouldn't include someone simply getting up and calling himself/herself "i am the leader".
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 03:26
by banebris2013
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 11:32
banebris2013 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 07:42
DTT,
It is obvious you have issue with Jawar ever since the establishment of OMN. It looks like you are one of those who sat back and wait with out any contribution until things happen. When they do, you start discrediting those who are trying to do something. Had you done even a quarter of what Jawar did, you could have known what it takes. You are becoming like habasha media who never have a news report with out accusing Jawar of something.
Your issue looks like more of plane Jealousy than a good will. Mind you, you have been after Jawar for the last five to six years. What did you achieve?
The same claim again: you claim on the one hand he brought a change and he claims the said change is worse than the previous condition, he said TPLF is much better than EPP (and former OPDO, if you like).
So, your claim is that he brought a change but he himself is discrediting that same change, isn't it?
Would you mind elaborating your claim: "you start discrediting those who are trying to do something" with regard to what they are trying to do concretely (better than what we already have)?
You can call me habesha media or that of the Mars, but truth needs be told. That is the botom line.
If I remember correctly OMN entered into its business claiming to counterpart ESAT, which it dubbed a propaganda machine of the "others" and I was questioning from the beginning how a propaganda machine can then be countered by same another propaganda machine, and I don't think I am proven wrong until today in my reservation.
To your dismay, ESAT is getting more professional and trying to live upto its name, while OMN is taking the deep dive as a media organisation, will cease to operate soon, I guess.
DTT,
Your postings tell that you got the message. That is good.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 13:38
by Lakeshore
Patience has a limit. Do not confuse it with weakness. We know this kind of brutality ingrained in the Querro. If you remember the old Ethiopian police newspaper. Those who kill with an axe, bashing someone's head with a stick and all kind gruesome crimes mostly committed by this people and Agames.
I believe there is some genetics defect in you. You need help so you should be locked up to get treatment there for life.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 13:45
by Lakeshore
I hope he will be jailed soon and make us happy. As we know a mad dog always has to be in a leash and mouth guard for the safety of the people around him.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 14:34
by DefendTheTruth
banebris2013 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 03:26
DTT,
Your postings tell that you got the message. That is good.
Why do you shorten your reply before you answer the short question I asked you?
Here is it again: "Would you mind elaborating your claim: "you start discrediting those who are trying to do something" with regard to what they are trying to do concretely (better than what we already have)?"
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:32
by banebris2013
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 14:34
banebris2013 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 03:26
DTT,
Your postings tell that you got the message. That is good.
Why do you shorten your reply before you answer the short question I asked you?
Here is it again: "Would you mind elaborating your claim: "you start discrediting those who are trying to do something" with regard to what they are trying to do concretely (better than what we already have)?"
Facts speak by them selves. If you believe OLF, OFC, Jawar or OMN has no contribution at all, that is your take and it is within your right.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 08:30
by DefendTheTruth
banebris2013 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2020, 16:32
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 14:34
banebris2013 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 03:26
DTT,
Your postings tell that you got the message. That is good.
Why do you shorten your reply before you answer the short question I asked you?
Here is it again: "Would you mind elaborating your claim: "you start discrediting those who are trying to do something" with regard to what they are trying to do concretely (better than what we already have)?"
Facts speak by them selves. If you believe OLF, OFC, Jawar or OMN has no contribution at all, that is your take and it is within your right.
It is my right, I do understand that, but don't you think that you have a duty to justify why you claim about something on a public forum, when you are asked by fellow forumers to do so?
Don't try to hide behind short sentences while the question is very clear unless you are just another impersonator, where we already have many of them in here.
Re: Jawar Mohammed seems to not understanding the difference between a party and government
Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 00:14
by banebris2013
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 08:30
banebris2013 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2020, 16:32
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 14:34
banebris2013 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 03:26
DTT,
Your postings tell that you got the message. That is good.
Why do you shorten your reply before you answer the short question I asked you?
Here is it again: "Would you mind elaborating your claim: "you start discrediting those who are trying to do something" with regard to what they are trying to do concretely (better than what we already have)?"
Facts speak by them selves. If you believe OLF, OFC, Jawar or OMN has no contribution at all, that is your take and it is within your right.
It is my right, I do understand that, but don't you think that you have a duty to justify why you claim about something on a public forum, when you are asked by fellow forumers to do so?
Don't try to hide behind short sentences while the question is very clear unless you are just another impersonator, where we already have many of them in here.
I do not think you deserve any explanation as you already made your mind. Just go through the videos you posted on this forum to see where you stand. You will get explanation when you start being fair, reasonable and unbiased.