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[Andertan]

Magnificent History of Gurage People in today’s central Oromia. The Gurage Ethiosemetic Habesha Tribe has a deep history in today’s Shewa. The Gurages established Muslim Sultanates such as Arabini in the Rift Valley and Gurage Christianity in Shoa. During the 16th century Galla invasions many Gurages lost there land and were killed raped and slaughtered into be coming oromo. Today’s Gurage is very small. Bete Gurage is very big and is all of Central Oromia a fake Kilil

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Shewa Before Galla Invasions

https://ibb.co/phCVXvC

Recent Galalu Migrants in Shoa

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Bete Gurage Hub

I ain’t no Horus

Ancient Gafat Lady

[Horus]

እንደርታ፤

ትክክል ነው ። አቡነ ገብረ መንፈስ ቅዱስን ጉራጌ ቅዱስ አቦ እንላቸዋለን ። በትክክል ግብጻዊ ናቸው ። ገናናው ዝቋላ አቦን፣ አዳዲ ማሪያምን፣ ምድረ ከብድ አቦን እና ለሎች ብዙ የቅዱስ አቦ ቤተ ክርስቲያናትን ያቆሙ ናቸው ። በጉራጌ ምድር ብዙ አቦዎች አሉ ።

ኖረው አርፈው የተቀበሩት የክስታኔ እምብርት በሆነው በምድረ ከብድ አቦ ነው ። ምድረ ከብድ ማለት ምድረ ክብር (ቅዱስ ምድር) ማለት ነው።

ቅዱስ አቦ ጉራጌ የመጡት 1460 አመተ ምህረት ነበር። እነዚህ ገዳሞች የተመሰረቱት ብ1460 እና 1500 መካከል ሲሆን ሁሉ በግራኝ መሃመድ በ1520ቹ ተቃጠለው ነበር ። ከግራኝ በኋላ ከሙስሊምና የጋላ ጥፋት ለመከላከል ሁሉም የዋሻ መቅደስነት ተለወጡ ፤ ልክ እንደ አዲስ አበባው ዋሻ ሚካኤል ማለት ነው ። አዳዲ ማሪያም እስከ ዛሬም የዋሻ መቅደስ ነው ። እነዚህ ገዳሞች በዋሻ መንገድ ውስጥ ለውስጥ የገናኙ ነበር ።

ዝቋላ አቦን፣ ምድረ ከብድ አቦን፣ ዳዮ አቦን ወዘተ ለመጨረሻ በንጉስ ምኒልክ እና ሃብተ ጎርጊስ ዲነግዴ በሰሜን በኩል ያሉትን የነምሁር ኢየሱስና የእዣ ገዳማት በባልቻ ሰፎ ተመልሰው ታደሱ ።

[Horus]

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[simbe11]

For some reason I thought Abune Gebre-menfes-kidus was from Syria!!
I thought he was one of the nine saints, “ዘጠኙ ቅዱሳን", who came to Ethiopia from Syria.

[Lakeshore]

Here is how I see your question. You tried to make it obvious that these bloodthirsty groups are representing Orome. That is a huge no! They do not represent Oromo peoples. Most Oromos are like many other Ethiopian are yes oppressed and they are poor. Where do you think these terrorist groups got their weapons, in general, their logistics. It is a known fact that it does not form the poor Oromo people because they do not support them rather afraid of them of course? They are rapist and killer mobs. just to answer that they got it from Egypt, and Sudan and other Arab countries who are enemies of Ethiopia because they perceive Ethiopia as the pearl of Christianity. Therefore, their agenda is not the Oromo people's agenda 100%.
It is imperative that unity is strength.

For example, look at Eritrea ELF?EPLF claimed they were marginalized and fought with the help of Arabs and the west and got their independence. Did I like it, no, but I was hoping they will realize one day that they made a mistake? However, after 20 years of independence still, young Eritrean migrates by thousands everywhere the Economy is not in great shape but their leader realized something after all the emotion and bravado settles down. Unity is more important than division. I admire Isayas because he can reform and learn from his mistakes for the sake of the peoples. on the other hand as Ethiopian, we are more than happy to live with them as a neighbor or united as one country whichever they and the Ethiopian people choose.

The core of modern democracy is based on individual rights. Every individual has the right to choose where to live, who to marry, where to go, and what religion to practice. However, in the federalist platform, there is no individual right that means you should be categorized in a group then and only then you can be heard. That is a problem because certain groups like Quero hijacked and intimidate the people and advance their agenda.

You were saying if the Oromo people choose independent will accept it of course that is the highest form of manifestation of democracy but the catch is it must be the people chose not groups of sell-out or those who have a lust for power. Therefore, before independence, they should explain to the peoples of Oromo their agenda clearly without intimidation. Explain to them what is the benefit of independence, to the people not to the leaders, than being together in this case economic and political benefits based on facts, not the fairy tell Anole story.

Then being an Oromo should be defined clearly. Speaking oromigna does not make somebody an Oromo. You should live with them, share their happiness and sorrow, marry their daughter not rape them drink from their river not bottled highland, and so on. Then those peoples approves yo as their representative then you can raise your independence to the government and the government will not have any ground to deny. So to answer your question yes I will respect the Oromo people decision if they choose to be separated but I do not care what OLF,OFECO, Querro claim because these are the groups currently oppressing the Oromo peoples and use them as a human shield against the government peacekeeping forces. However, history showed us many times people do not get wrong but groups and individuals did.

You also said if you are Amhara, Eritrea or American mind your business. That is the core of your problem. you do not know what democracy means. It is about individual rights so I can be anyone in order to stand for individual rights. For example, Take the case of Floyd the American black man who was killed by racist policemen. peoples in France, Canada, England, even China, and all over the world went out to protest. According to you since they are, not black whites shouldn't protest, since they are not American all the other world shouldn't protest did you see how ridiculous that is i.e Querro policy is.

Even if I am not Oromo I still stand for the Oromo peoples right against any group who tries to oppress them.

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Sekeram Weyane

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Gebre Menfes Kidus (Ge'ez: ገብረ መንፈስ ቅዱስ; also familiarly called Abo) was an Egyptian Christian saint, and the founder of the monastery of Zuqualla. The fifth day of every month in the Ethiopian calendar is dedicated to this saint.[1]

Manuscripts differ in relating the story of the life of Gebre Menfes Kidus and the miracles he performed. Unless otherwise stated, the account below is pieced together from various legends about his life.[2]

Life in Egypt Edit

One text reports Gebre Menfes Kidus lived 562 years, 300 of them in Egypt, while another attributes him a life of 362 years.[3] He was born in Nehisa, Egypt to noble parents, named Simon and Eklesia. Eklesia, according to legend, came from the tribe of Benjamin of ancient Israel. Eklesia and Simon are said to have been barren for 30 years. The day of Gebre's conception and the date of his birth are said to coincide with those of Jesus Christ.

Forty days after his birth, the baptism of Gebre Menfes Kidus was celebrated with a banquet attended by the Roman emperor. He developed traits common to all prodigious children. By the age of two, tradition reports that he was already wise. When he was three years old, God sent his archangel Gabriel to the child, to take him into the desert and put him into the custody of the monk Zamada Berhan, leaving his parents and nurse in despair. There he was ordained priest and became an abbot.

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Do not let Galalu Sadacha steal the Gurage History Kings

እንደርታ፤

ትክክል ነው ። አቡነ ገብረ መንፈስ ቅዱስን ጉራጌ ቅዱስ አቦ እንላቸዋለን ። በትክክል ግብጻዊ ናቸው ። ገናናው ዝቋላ አቦን፣ አዳዲ ማሪያምን፣ ምድረ ከብድ አቦን እና ለሎች ብዙ የቅዱስ አቦ ቤተ ክርስቲያናትን ያቆሙ ናቸው ። በጉራጌ ምድር ብዙ አቦዎች አሉ ።

ኖረው አርፈው የተቀበሩት የክስታኔ እምብርት በሆነው በምድረ ከብድ አቦ ነው ። ምድረ ከብድ ማለት ምድረ ክብር (ቅዱስ ምድር) ማለት ነው።

ቅዱስ አቦ ጉራጌ የመጡት 1460 አመተ ምህረት ነበር። እነዚህ ገዳሞች የተመሰረቱት ብ1460 እና 1500 መካከል ሲሆን ሁሉ በግራኝ መሃመድ በ1520ቹ ተቃጠለው ነበር ። ከግራኝ በኋላ ከሙስሊምና የጋላ ጥፋት ለመከላከል ሁሉም የዋሻ መቅደስነት ተለወጡ ፤ ልክ እንደ አዲስ አበባው ዋሻ ሚካኤል ማለት ነው ። አዳዲ ማሪያም እስከ ዛሬም የዋሻ መቅደስ ነው ። እነዚህ ገዳሞች በዋሻ መንገድ ውስጥ ለውስጥ የገናኙ ነበር ።

ዝቋላ አቦን፣ ምድረ ከብድ አቦን፣ ዳዮ አቦን ወዘተ ለመጨረሻ በንጉስ ምኒልክ እና ሃብተ ጎርጊስ ዲነግዴ በሰሜን በኩል ያሉትን የነምሁር ኢየሱስና የእዣ ገዳማት በባልቻ ሰፎ ተመልሰው ታደሱ ።

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እንደርታ፤
ብትክክል፤ በተለይ ባለፉት 30 አመታት ወስጥ የገዳማት ታሪክ በተመለከተ በጣም ልክ ያልሆነ የተሳሳተ ትርክትና ሚቶሎግይ በዝቷል። ሁሉም ነገር ክርስትና አክሱም ከገባበት ቀን ለማያያዝ ሲሞክሩ ነገር እያበላሹ ነው ። ለምሳሌ አዳዲ ማርያምን ያሰራው ቅዱስ ላሊበላ ይላሉ፤ ያ ማለት 12/13 ዘመን ማለት ነው ። በሌላ በኩል አቦ በ4/5ኛ ዘመን ሰሩት ይላሉ ። ሁሉም ከጥናት የራቁ ናቸው ። ተክለ ሃይማኖት ሸዋን ያጠመቁት በአምደ ጽዮን ዘመን ነው ። 1300ዎቹ ። ዝቋላ። መድረ ከንድ ወዘተ በዚያ ዘመን አልነበሩም። የቀድሞ ፕሮፌሰር ታደሰ ታምራት በዝርዝር ይህን ዘመን ጽፎበታል ።

እኔ ከአያቴ በፊት የኖሩት ዘሮቼ ሁሉ የተቀበሩት ምደረ ከብድ አቦ ነው። በተለይ ለክስታኔ ጉራጌ ቅዱስ አቦን የሚልቅ አባት ጻዲቅ የለም ። ለዚህም ምስክሩ እኛ አቦን ለወንድም ለሴትም ስም ነው ያደረግነው፣ አቦነህ ለወንድ፣ አቦነሽ ለሴት ማለት ነው። ወንድም ሆነ ሴት ስታገባ የሚደረግ ከፍተኛ ባህል አለን ፣ እንሾሽላ ይባላል። እዚያ በአል ላይ አያቶች እናቶችና አባቶች የሚያወርዱት ዘፈር አለ ። መሪ ቃሉ (አዝማቹ) የማነህ ቢሉህ፣ የማነሽ ቢሉሽ ያቦ (የአቦ) ልጅ ነኝ በል ይላል ። ይህን ሁሉ የምለው ግብጽዊው ቅዱስ አቦ ጉራጌን ያስተማሩት 1460 ጀምሮ ነው።

ያረፉበት መታሰቢያ የግቦት አቦ ሲከበር ፣ በሰሜን ክስታኔ ባለው ዳዮ አቦ ጥቅምት 5 ይከበራል ። ራሱ ጥቅምት ማለት የግብጽ ቃል ሲሆን እሱም ቀምጥ (ግብጽ) ማለት ነው። ጥር ማለትም የግብጽ ቃል ሲሆን እኛ ክረምት የምንለው ነው። ጥር የግብጽ ሰብል ወቅት ስለሆነ።

[tlel]

Shewa Before Galla Invasions

https://ibb.co/phCVXvC

Recent Galalu Migrants in Shoa

Andertan,

Stop using generic art picture as true photo. These are generic pictures designed to tell stories and are not real photos.

[tlel]

እንደርታ፤
ብትክክል፤ በተለይ ባለፉት 30 አመታት ወስጥ የገዳማት ታሪክ በተመለከተ በጣም ልክ ያልሆነ የተሳሳተ ትርክትና ሚቶሎግይ በዝቷል። ሁሉም ነገር ክርስትና አክሱም ከገባበት ቀን ለማያያዝ ሲሞክሩ ነገር እያበላሹ ነው ። ለምሳሌ አዳዲ ማርያምን ያሰራው ቅዱስ ላሊበላ ይላሉ፤ ያ ማለት 12/13 ዘመን ማለት ነው ። በሌላ በኩል አቦ በ4/5ኛ ዘመን ሰሩት ይላሉ ። ሁሉም ከጥናት የራቁ ናቸው ። ተክለ ሃይማኖት ሸዋን ያጠመቁት በአምደ ጽዮን ዘመን ነው ። 1300ዎቹ ። ዝቋላ። መድረ ከንድ ወዘተ በዚያ ዘመን አልነበሩም። የቀድሞ ፕሮፌሰር ታደሰ ታምራት በዝርዝር ይህን ዘመን ጽፎበታል ።

እኔ ከአያቴ በፊት የኖሩት ዘሮቼ ሁሉ የተቀበሩት ምደረ ከብድ አቦ ነው። በተለይ ለክስታኔ ጉራጌ ቅዱስ አቦን የሚልቅ አባት ጻዲቅ የለም ። ለዚህም ምስክሩ እኛ አቦን ለወንድም ለሴትም ስም ነው ያደረግነው፣ አቦነህ ለወንድ፣ አቦነሽ ለሴት ማለት ነው። ወንድም ሆነ ሴት ስታገባ የሚደረግ ከፍተኛ ባህል አለን ፣ እንሾሽላ ይባላል። እዚያ በአል ላይ አያቶች እናቶችና አባቶች የሚያወርዱት ዘፈር አለ ። መሪ ቃሉ (አዝማቹ) የማነህ ቢሉህ፣ የማነሽ ቢሉሽ ያቦ (የአቦ) ልጅ ነኝ በል ይላል ። ይህን ሁሉ የምለው ግብጽዊው ቅዱስ አቦ ጉራጌን ያስተማሩት 1460 ጀምሮ ነው።

ያረፉበት መታሰቢያ የግቦት አቦ ሲከበር ፣ በሰሜን ክስታኔ ባለው ዳዮ አቦ ጥቅምት 5 ይከበራል ። ራሱ ጥቅምት ማለት የግብጽ ቃል ሲሆን እሱም ቀምጥ (ግብጽ) ማለት ነው። ጥር ማለትም የግብጽ ቃል ሲሆን እኛ ክረምት የምንለው ነው። ጥር የግብጽ ሰብል ወቅት ስለሆነ።

ሆረስ ወይም ኣንደርታን፣ ትክክለኛ ታሪክን በዛሬ ኢንተርነት ዘመን መጽጽሃፍ መጻፍ ነው። መዛባት የሌለበት፣ ሁሉም የሚፅፈው የክልሉን መሆን የለበትም።

[EthioRedSea]

Zuqualla is Tigrayan or Amhara. Guraghes have no history. Most Guraghes are muslims. And those who go to church, have a pagan way of worshiping.

[Andertan]

That is true Gurage are still like pagans. Zuqala is also found in Amhara Orthodox region so it’s there’s not pagans Gurage Muslim

Zuqualla is Tigrayan or Amhara. Guraghes have no history. Most Guraghes are muslims. And those who go to church, have a pagan way of worshiping.

[Horus]

Zuqualla is Tigrayan or Amhara. Guraghes have no history. Most Guraghes are muslims. And those who go to church, have a pagan way of worshiping.

እኔ እስከ ሚገባኝ የትግሬ ስምና ታሪክ ሲነሳ በባንዳነት፣ እነ ራስ ደስታን ለጣሊያ በመስጠት፣ በረሃብ፣ በልመና፣ ቆርቆሮ በመልቀም፣ ደሞ ወደ ክብር ወደ ስልጣን ሊጠጉ በሌብነት፣ በክፋት፣ በቶርቸር፣ በኢሰባዊነት እንጂ ትግሬ በሌላ ሲነራ አልሰማሁም፣ አላየሁም ፣ በህይወት ልምዴ ያረጋገጥኩት ደም ይህ ነው ። መናደድ መብትህ ነው ።

እውነት ግን የዎይኔ አሽከር አይደለችም ። ጉራጌና ዎያኔ ዉሃና ዘይት፣ እሳትና ጭድ ናቸው። አሁን ሂዱና ከበሮ ምቱ !!! ለማኝ ሲጠግብ ወደ ዘፈኑ ይብላል።

ዎያኔ በህይወት እያለ ለ30 አመት ያልቻለውን ጉራጌን ማጥቃት ዛሬ በእሬሳ የ ሚሞክሩ ውዳቂዎች ይመቻችሁ እላለሁ !!!

[EthioRedSea]

Zuqualla has nothing with Guraghes. It was part of The aksumite Kingdom. The people inLake Zeway and Lake Tana are Aksumites. They are Tigrayans or Amharas.

As to Guraghe, we do not know where they are from. Their culture is different from Tigrayans or Amharas. some say, they migrated from Eritrea to South Ethiopia.But people in Eritrea do not eat Enset and have different dance and music.

This is an objective assessment of the populations and various tribes living in Ethiopia. This is not to offend Guraghes or any other tribe for that matter.

The Guraghes should stop falsifying history . The history of Ethiopia is mainly the history of The Abyssinians, mainly Tigray and Amhara. It is not easy to form a country and a kingdom. Kindoms need laws and courts. Ancient court procedures are still found in Tigray and Amhara regions, almost in every village.