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Eden, if there is nothing, why bother to talk about that nothing ? That brings us to the conclusion there is something. That is a reasonable hypothesis. What we do not know however is the magnitude of that something. If it warrants an official response to it , I say , yes, something is going on that we should pay attention to.

. But why the TPLF politicians are accusing the media, the Abiy government, and even Eritrea to have played some role on the “misinformation? “
Who really is writing the narrative of this something ? Think about it , Eden.
Contrary to your headline, the TPLF politicians are on the defensive.

TPLF is happy about PP and HGDEF outlets over the board wall to wall coverage. Why? Because these outlets are considered external and they are perceived as propaganda outlets, not informational nor educational. I agree the the grievances are on the ground and the movement necessary. But PP is helping bury this indirectly.

PM Abiy, by using STATE MEDIA ETV, WALTA, EBC, FANA and its recent addition ESAT, is robing the Fenkil movement its legimacy. If you need evidence for my statement, watch the news video. Only PP and Co. are being discussed. TPLF is portraying the whole movement as OUTSIDE enemy media misinformation campaign. This hurts internal movement.

P.S. Sam,

I updated the heading to reflect clearly there's legitimate cause.

eden wrote: ↑

26 May 2020, 18:06

TPLF is happy about PP and HGDEF outlets over the board wall to wall coverage. Why? Because these outlets are considered external and they are perceived as propaganda outlets, not informational nor educational. I agree the the grievances are on the ground and the movement necessary. But PP is helping bury this indirectly.

PM Abiy, by using STATE MEDIA ETV, WALTA, EBC, FANA and its recent addition ESAT, is robing the Fenkil movement its legimacy. If you need evidence for my statement, watch the news video. Only PP and Co. are being discussed. TPLF is portraying the whole movement as OUTSIDE enemy media misinformation campaign. This hurts internal movement.

P.S. Sam,

I updated the heading to reflect clearly there's legitimate cause.

where is the HGDF hand in this case? you can`t find one, this is totally a Tigraen politics no one should put a hand on it.

Find HGDEF hand at 1:15:19

eden wrote: ↑

26 May 2020, 19:44

Find HGDEF hand at 1:15:19

gefih mitra, this is back 3 years old.

Eden if your meatloaf brain believes so, you should be happy and actually you should encourage hgdef and PP to continue 'shooting' their own feet so that your woyane can survive.
You are wetting your pants and are trying to use your dedebit reverse psychology to stop spanking woyane's behind.
Aye agames... very predictable.
Wow, why are you advocating against your survival if you think, pfdj and Abiy are doing what woyane is not capable of doing for its sake?

a rhetorical question, I presume?

It is not a rhetorical question. It is a tough question which you might not have an answer to it.

Tplf and success are mutually exclusive. Tplf is an inept organisation destined to fail since its inception. Tplf rodents see no way out from the quagmire they've immersed themselves. Your beloved zena was extremely stupid, couldn't see beyond his nose. Perhaps due to his short stature he was shortsighted. PP and HGDF dont need to lift a finger when TPLF rodents are shooting themselves in the foot. Never stop when your enemy is making a mistake no war no peace should do. Lets see how long weyane parasites last without any assistance from anybody.

Sam

I support Fenqil because it’s based on grievances that are legitimate. I don’t support PP using local grievances for its own end. If PP was a progressive movement, I believe it becomes a Holy Alliance but PP is not. PP killing in Oromia eko. Today they killed a mother of four. Source: Abbay Media. Go check if you care.

Hope that answers Cigar’s question. I’m not saying I’m right. I’m saying what I think based on publicly available information.

Eden if you really support fenkil and are disgusted by woyane stop hair splitting and just advocate for the demise of woyane by fenkil or any other agame entity.
But deep inside your twisted agame heart, I bet you are saying:
"Godemet these Eritreans' IQ is too damn too much for us the agames".
Be honest for your future little snotty agame kids.

This is my objective comment:

Every player here, be it the PP, or Shabia, will pursue their interests, even if it's to the detriment of others.
I.E. If it hurts the Oromo nationalists, or tigrayans, or the sidama nationalists, by chance, oh well, because ''our'' [shabia's and PP's] interests come first.
same way how shabia didn't hesitate to fight side by side with the tplf/eprdf against the OLF in the 1990's.

So, it's upon everyone, to pursue their interests, and the strongest will win.
Interests at times change, and so do alliances. Time shall tell, who emerges victorious.
I promise you all this though... the old unitary system will never return, unless somehow, they wipe all 40 million of us oromos out... and i am sure the somalis and others feel the same way....

Dear Eden and Sadacha Macca: Focus on the trending development, not on what TPLF claims

Hi Eden, if you believe that the Tigraiy Fenqil Movement is "organic" and a justified movement against the TPLF, please take it as it is. That is the real trending development in Tigraiy. The alleged support of Prosperity Party or ShaEbiyya (which you have yet to prove) cannot change the true nature of the Tigraiy Fenqil Movement. Others could be supportive/hindrance to the Movement, but would not alter its objectives (which are openly stated) of peacefully removing TPLF from power in Tigraiy, and primarily by Tigraiyans. The vector of this trend would depend on the integrated effect of many variables, but mainly on how TPLF reacts to the new Movement. If the Tigraiy Fenqil Movement is "organic" (with legitimate popular grievances, as you claim it is), then, the success of TPLF propaganda trying to mis-characterize that Movement would be short-lived. Hence, it shall not be that much of a worry.

Hi Sadacha Macca: interests and strengths are fundamental considerations in public affairs. You seem to feel nervous and unsettled with PM Abiy Ahmed Ali's intentions. You also seem to be uncomfortable with the Abiy reforms, fearful that "the old unitary system will ... return", very similar to what the TPLF leaders and supporters claim. I am curious why you are concerned of a reversal to "the old unitary system"? I do not see Abiy advocating for a unitary national State/government, but for a Federal State/Government. As far as I can tell, he, however, wants his political party---the Prosperity Party (whose members are recruited from any/every ethnicity) to be organized nationwide, instead of being limited to one or more ethnic kellils. The Federal State/Government shall remain as it currently is, and the Prosperity Party intends to make its members ready to compete for any political office in all kellil and local elections. Every kellil, district, town or city would be governed by officials elected by their own electors. I don't see how the Prosperity Party could remove elected officials and appoint/impose office holders of its choice instead (of course, unless the Constitution offers the Federal Government special powers in special circumstances). Please review the following set of differences between a Unitary State and a Federal State, and explain.

Unitary State

In a unitary state, the central or national government has complete authority over all other political divisions or administrative units. For example, the Republic of France is a unitary state in which the French national government in Paris has total authority over several provinces, known as departments, which are the subordinate administrative components of the nation-state. The local governments of a unitary state carry out the directives of the central government, but they do not act independently.

The federal system of political organization is the exact opposite of the unitary state. For example, in contrast to the unitary state of France, Germany is a federal republic, which means that the national or federal government in Berlin shares political authority with the governments of several Lander, or political units within the nation-state. However,as in all federal states, including Australia, India, and the United States of America, the central or national government of Germany is supreme within the sphere of authority granted to it through the constitution.

Unitary states, like federal states, can be constitutional democracies or unfree non-democracies. Both the unitary Republic of France and the Federal Republic of Germany, for example, are constitutional democracies, but the unitary states of Algeria, Libya, and Swaziland are unfree non-democracies. The Republic of Sudan is an example of an unfree and non-democratic federal state.

https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/glos ... ary-state/

Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑

28 May 2020, 16:36

This is my objective comment:

Every player here, be it the PP, or Shabia, will pursue their interests, even if it's to the detriment of others.
I.E. If it hurts the Oromo nationalists, or tigrayans, or the sidama nationalists, by chance, oh well, because ''our'' [shabia's and PP's] interests come first.
same way how shabia didn't hesitate to fight side by side with the tplf/eprdf against the OLF in the 1990's.

So, it's upon everyone, to pursue their interests, and the strongest will win.
Interests at times change, and so do alliances. Time shall tell, who emerges victorious.
I promise you all this though... the old unitary system will never return, unless somehow, they wipe all 40 million of us oromos out... and i am sure the somalis and others feel the same way....

The YAY presentation requires you to respond , Eden.

Sam Ebalalehu wrote: ↑

26 May 2020, 16:21

Eden, if there is nothing, why bother to talk about that nothing ? That brings us to the conclusion there is something. That is a reasonable hypothesis. What we do not know however is the magnitude of that something. If it warrants an official response to it , I say , yes, something is going on that we should pay attention to.

ONCE up on time CNN went to Afghanistan to interview Ayman al-Zawahiri

cnn reporter ask Ayman al-Zawahiri why u guy have no freedom of speech

Ayman al-Zawahiri we do have freedom of speech

Cnn reporter ask to see their brand of freedom of speech

so Ayman al-Zawahiri call one of the terrorists and order him to show this white man how we respect freedom of speech.

the terrorist showted Down down American nothing happened

then the terrorist burn American flag nothing happened

then Ayman al-Zawahiri turn around to white man and told him you see no body kill him say down down America or for burning America flag..

what i am saying is any body any buda Amhara used to burn Golden flag in USA ... FREEDOM of speech is when u can burn Ethiopian flag inside Ethiopia while the government of Ethiopia watching u...

on the same token when PPee AND hgdef Talk about Fenkil, doent make them progressive ... what make them progressive's when they put skin in the game.. otherwise it is easy to spend other people money and be called kind .. it is easy to send other people children's to war and be called hero when u go to war or when u send your own children's to war then only u r really a man of his own word..

Dr. Abiy and isisis Awarki have million of their own problem why it their business dolling their noise in Golden business .. when the Golden react and FK U UP DONT CRY.. IF U DONT CRY THEN do what ever u want .... when Fano blocked fed highway no body say nothing .. why r u running now about Fenkil why not mind your business.. if not get ready to lose big .. Amhara will be forced to break away from Ethiopia ..Eritrea will be landlocked nation .. mark my word.. i am just watching the … movie ... while it is written

[quote=Ethoash
ONCE up on time CNN went to Afghanistan to interview Ayman al-Zawahiri

cnn reporter ask Ayman al-Zawahiri why u guy have no freedom of speech

Ayman al-Zawahiri we do have freedom of speech

Cnn reporter ask to see their brand of freedom of speech

so Ayman al-Zawahiri call one of the terrorists and order him to show this white man how we respect freedom of speech.

the terrorist showted Down down American nothing happened

then the terrorist burn American flag nothing happened

then Ayman al-Zawahiri turn around to white man and told him you see no body kill him say down down America or for burning America flag..

what i am saying is any body any buda Amhara used to burn Golden flag in USA ... FREEDOM of speech is when u can burn Ethiopian flag inside Ethiopia while the government of Ethiopia watching u...

on the same token when PPee AND hgdef Talk about Fenkil, doent make them progressive ... what make them progressive's when they put skin in the game.. otherwise it is easy to spend other people money and be called kind .. it is easy to send other people children's to war and be called hero when u go to war or when u send your own children's to war then only u r really a man of his own word..

Dr. Abiy and isisis Awarki have million of their own problem why it their business dolling their noise in Golden business .. when the Golden react and FK U UP DONT CRY.. IF U DONT CRY THEN do what ever u want .... when Fano blocked fed highway no body say nothing .. why r u running now about Fenkil why not mind your business.. if not get ready to lose big .. Amhara will be forced to break away from Ethiopia ..Eritrea will be landlocked nation .. mark my word.. i am just watching the … movie ... while it is written
[/quote]

says Aga'me-lands intellectual.
You will never win an argument with an idiot.

Ethoash, I do not know whether Abiy and Isayes support the homegrown movement against TPLF. Maybe they do. Eden was sure indeed they do , and probably she is right.
But that is beside the point. The real question the TPLF politicians should ask themselves is for how long this seeming stalemate continues ? They cannot keep going further along the self quarantined politics they follow. It is a silly argument to say once we fought and “ evicted” Mengistu to Zimbabwe, and we should continue to have the lion share in politics. Ethiopia has significantly had changed. The majority of Ethiopians alive today were not born when your uncles rushed to Addis in 1991. Do not expect the TPLF political argument to make sense to those majority.
Your uncles are living the past. The world is rapidly changing, and they are reluctant to accept that fact.
Let the old guards retire from politics. The new Generation of Tigreans be those who will chart the future of Tigray .

Sam Ebalalehu wrote: ↑

29 May 2020, 01:15

Ethoash, I do not know whether Abiy and Isayes support the homegrown movement against TPLF. Maybe they do. Eden was sure indeed they do , and probably she is right.

Sam,

u make me laugh..u r typical Africa who ask why our leader doesnt give up power.. when they give up power they want to hunt them down and kill them and arrest them and they r wondering again why they dont give up power for what to lose their life..

the Golden royal family left their empire and headed to their home town.. they should be respected and they should be thankful for what they did for us at the last minute....did u ever thought about this what would the Golden royal family benefit electing Dr. Abiy one of the world best leader and who show what he can do in just two years.. what was the golden obligation to elect ... did u ever thought had they just pack and left for China or any other African counties what would be Ethiopian faith.. it would have been another Syrian

anyhow once the tplf royal family give us the whole empire in return instead of giving them immunity .some even want to wage war to arrest them .. another funny thing is you want them to give up power for Fenkil’ so that Fenkil’ give them up one by one .. instead they would fight until death what r they going to lose after this...

if u ask me i want the golden to retire too.. but that is not the question the question is can they get double immunity or u r still want to hunt them down.. this immunity is total immunity all looted money also protected this way they can invest in Ethiopia and create job for Ethiopian instead of depositing it in Swiss bank and lose the money when they die due to old age or without passing the password to other the money will be lost..