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yaballo wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 01:19

TGAA

TGAA,

Your Tigre brothers/woyanes would've literally .......................... jumped-up & down with your limut flag to celebrate your Amhara king's (menelik) birthday or a battle .......................... Adwa.

yaballo wrote: ↑

02 Mar 2020, 21:20

TGAA;

HERE I PRESENT TO YOU THE KING NUDE TO SEE!

TGAA wrote: ↑

02 Mar 2020, 20:57

Yabllo you are really losing your composure ! you are getting easily agitated , off line at times. You must have seen the writing on the wall. you must have overestimated jawars power or underestimated the Ethiopist, as it turns out at your own peril . We will let you to come in from the cold. There is no future in Ethiopobic camp , came join in the Zion Train it is going whether you are in it or not but better if you do . Happy ADWA day bro.

yaballo wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2020, 22:14

BATTLE OF KARAMARA: Ethiopian 'History' or Myth; The Case of 1977. 'Ethio-Somalis' reject Addis's one-sided narrative of Ethio-Somali war & have zero common history with Ethiopia.

By: Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed. (Somali Region News).

photo: ordinary Ogadeni Somalis like these fought to liberate their homeland of 'ogaden' from Ethiopian colonialists since this huge area was given to Ethiopia in July 24, 1948 by the British.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha (Karamara) as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The present day Ethiopia is a country that gained its current geographic shape in the late 19th century and early 20th century mostly through forceful conquest and times through 'peaceful submission' as is the case for the Somali people who integrated in to mainland Ethiopia after they gained freedom from Britain. These historic events, though documented clearly in Colonial Manuscripts, have been dictated otherwise in Ethiopian history books which are mainly written to fit the narrative of the Monarchy. It is with this understanding that some activists, prominently Jawar Mohammed, indicate that we do not have common heritage or identity as Ethiopians.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The War of 1977 was not the product of warmongering behaviour of the late Mohammed Ziad Barre nor the search for a greater Somalia but a product of the Somali youth in the Ogaden, Hawd and Reserve Areas (the three territories freed from British rule) fighting against what they deemed oppression and colonialism by the Dergue Regime. It was the youth born in this part of the country, some educated in Somalia and abroad, others living inside, who decided to fight against the Ethiopian rule and establish an independent state; a noble and courageous cause. Later, they were joined by both Oromo and Tigrayan youth who felt the same oppression in the socialist dictatorship.

The course of a long and destructive war had many faces as is claimed by many participants at that time, one being the betrayal Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) fighters felt was done on Somalia's side by donning the idea of Greater Somalia.

This later being one of the weakening factors and cause for the retreat of the joint WSLF and Somalia forces. During this war the greatest damage was inflicted upon the Somalis of Ethiopia. They were forced to flee from their homes, land and property, some not returned till date. It was the Somalis of this region that were forced to hate the idea of being part of this nation, Ethiopia for the cruelty and animosity they were dealt with by the Central government post-war. It us, Somalis of Ethiopia that lost loved ones struggling for freedom. It is us who felt the real damage and destruction left behind by a brutal war that was mostly fought on our ground.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

It is easy to claim the real reason for the current state of our country roots deeply in our history and the way it is narrated. We may remain united by force and silenced by guns but we will never achieve 'true' unity and mutual understanding lest we come together and deal with all the wrong narratives that separate us. We can not enjoy democracy and freedom till we address painful memories that disrupt our Union. Political correctness will not take us far rather we need to have frank discussions and heal both old and new wounds. We can not prosper while some are hailing ones demise and some praising ones oppressor in the name of Ethiopia!

~ Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed.

SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/Somaliregionne ... =3&theater

VIDEO: Ogaden War 1977 Somalia Ethiopia.

VIDEO: "We see them (Ogadeni rebels) as freedom fighter those you call enemies. They are our heroes. Down with your DERG Mentality. Imam Ahmed Gragn, Seyd Mohamed Abdulle Hassen, WSLF & our freedom fighters who lost their dear lives we salute and honor them. But in your shoes they are your enemies. That is why we don't share common history. You can't dictate us our history. What you call is 6 is 9 from my perspective. DERG and his missionaries massacred our people in Karamardha and many places in Somali Region.~ Ahmed Arab"

yaballo wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 17:22

Somaliman,

Eastoy bien mi hermano. Gracias. Espero que tu estas bien también.

Sí, Etiopía no progresa hasta que los habashis siguen con sus cabezas de piedra que no aceptan ninguna opinión crítica sobre todos los mitos y propaganda que se les cuentan como historia. Creo que es mejor para otras tribus a continue buscar el autogobierno (autonomia) a toda costa y dejarlos vadear en su fango o porqueria de infinitas miserias y delirios de grandeza.

Buenas noches/día mi hermano.

photo: the official document via which the government of Great Britain & Northern Ireland passed on the region of Ogaden to the habashis aka Ethiopia on 29 Nov, 1954.



song: yes, Sakina is becoming a sensational new singer capable of moving with incredible ease between Borana (Oromo) & Somali music/culture - though the two neighbouring communities share a great deal anyway. Here is another Somali song for which Sakina produced a cover song in Afaan Oromo (Booranaa). In this video, the two versions are presented side-by-side. The second song is Sakina's version of the complete song.

Somaliman wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 16:07

Yaballo,

Hola, hermano!

Rest assured you've given that farting ignorant donkey, calling himself TGAA, a comprehensive dose of free schooling; thus, I won't bother to add anything.

In addition, our Oromo sister (Sakina), singing 'ALLA QURUXSANAA' is truly mesmerizing, and her voice can tune the life of lifeless people, like TGAA.

Etiopía no progresa hasta que los habashis siguen con sus cabezas de piedra que no aceptan ninguna opinión crítica sobre todos los mitos y propaganda que se les cuentan como historia.

yaballo wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2020, 22:14

BATTLE OF KARAMARA: Ethiopian 'History' or Myth; The Case of 1977. 'Ethio-Somalis' reject Addis's one-sided narrative of Ethio-Somali war & have zero common history with Ethiopia.

By: Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed. (Somali Region News).

photo: ordinary Ogadeni Somalis like these fought to liberate their homeland of 'ogaden' from Ethiopian colonialists since this huge area was given to Ethiopia in July 24, 1948 by the British.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha (Karamara) as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The present day Ethiopia is a country that gained its current geographic shape in the late 19th century and early 20th century mostly through forceful conquest and times through 'peaceful submission' as is the case for the Somali people who integrated in to mainland Ethiopia after they gained freedom from Britain. These historic events, though documented clearly in Colonial Manuscripts, have been dictated otherwise in Ethiopian history books which are mainly written to fit the narrative of the Monarchy. It is with this understanding that some activists, prominently Jawar Mohammed, indicate that we do not have common heritage or identity as Ethiopians.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The War of 1977 was not the product of warmongering behaviour of the late Mohammed Ziad Barre nor the search for a greater Somalia but a product of the Somali youth in the Ogaden, Hawd and Reserve Areas (the three territories freed from British rule) fighting against what they deemed oppression and colonialism by the Dergue Regime. It was the youth born in this part of the country, some educated in Somalia and abroad, others living inside, who decided to fight against the Ethiopian rule and establish an independent state; a noble and courageous cause. Later, they were joined by both Oromo and Tigrayan youth who felt the same oppression in the socialist dictatorship.

The course of a long and destructive war had many faces as is claimed by many participants at that time, one being the betrayal Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) fighters felt was done on Somalia's side by donning the idea of Greater Somalia.

This later being one of the weakening factors and cause for the retreat of the joint WSLF and Somalia forces. During this war the greatest damage was inflicted upon the Somalis of Ethiopia. They were forced to flee from their homes, land and property, some not returned till date. It was the Somalis of this region that were forced to hate the idea of being part of this nation, Ethiopia for the cruelty and animosity they were dealt with by the Central government post-war. It us, Somalis of Ethiopia that lost loved ones struggling for freedom. It is us who felt the real damage and destruction left behind by a brutal war that was mostly fought on our ground.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

It is easy to claim the real reason for the current state of our country roots deeply in our history and the way it is narrated. We may remain united by force and silenced by guns but we will never achieve 'true' unity and mutual understanding lest we come together and deal with all the wrong narratives that separate us. We can not enjoy democracy and freedom till we address painful memories that disrupt our Union. Political correctness will not take us far rather we need to have frank discussions and heal both old and new wounds. We can not prosper while some are hailing ones demise and some praising ones oppressor in the name of Ethiopia!

~ Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed.

SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/Somaliregionne ... =3&theater

VIDEO: Ogaden War 1977 Somalia Ethiopia.

VIDEO: "We see them (Ogadeni rebels) as freedom fighter those you call enemies. They are our heroes. Down with your DERG Mentality. Imam Ahmed Gragn, Seyd Mohamed Abdulle Hassen, WSLF & our freedom fighters who lost their dear lives we salute and honor them. But in your shoes they are your enemies. That is why we don't share common history. You can't dictate us our history. What you call is 6 is 9 from my perspective. DERG and his missionaries massacred our people in Karamardha and many places in Somali Region.~ Ahmed Arab"

Selam/ wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:21

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
You now brought back a horrible war memory from its abyss, your domicile. Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils. The Ogaden war was a tragic and futile incident in which the Somali dictator, Siad Barre, miscalculated and turned the region into a turmoil, helping brutal Mengistu solidify his grip over Ethiopia. Thousands of young Ethiopians and Somalian brothers perished in this war.

Unlike your misguided timeline, the Ogaden war actually goes back to 1964 when the Somali Army attacked Ethiopian police posts around Jijijig. That triggered Ethiopia’s first response in a form of ground troops and air strike. Led by the “desert lion” Aman Andom Somalia’s offensive was completely destroyed. Had he later not been dismissed by His Majesty, General Aman would have overtaken and erased Mogadishu from the map within a few days.

Somalia military offensive reoccurred in 1977 after the fall of the Ethiopian monarchy and installment of the brutal military government called Derg. Having acquired several Soviet made fighter planes, tanks, APC’s and artilleries, Siad Barre’s army invaded Ogaden and penetrated deep into the hearts of Jijiga and Dire Dawa. Torn between internal conflicts and unable to get any military support from Jimmy Carter, Derg was at the verge of losing the entire Ogaden and Harar. But having seen the vacuum on Ethiopian side and the aggression of Somalia offensive on the other, Cuba & Soviet Union turned their backs on Siad Barre and sided with Mengistu. Thank to Barre & Carter, communist Soviet got planted in Ethiopia from then on and that was when the end of the Ogaden war and the dependence of Ethiopia ushered. Sadly enough, thousands of soldiers and civilians died on each side, specifically due to the relentless air strikes.

To me, commemorating Karamara or any war shouldn't be an attempt to glamorize or sanitize the horrors of the wars by solely depicting heroes and portraying losers. It should rather mainly be about reflecting on the past that we consider laudable to help us heal our traumatic experience and avoid conflicts in the future. I interpret war commemoration as an opportunity to pay a debt of gratitude to those who died fighting to protect us. I don’t agree with commemorative events that tend to whip up into nationalistic fervor or that are used to bolster support of a regime. For example, the World War II memorial in US is intended to honor those millions of people who served in the armed forces, not to ridicule and intimidate the loser which is Germany. Likewise, the Vietnam war is equally commemorated even though US was the aggressor and the loser.
KIFU!

yaballo wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2020, 22:14

BATTLE OF KARAMARA: Ethiopian 'History' or Myth; The Case of 1977. 'Ethio-Somalis' reject Addis's one-sided narrative of Ethio-Somali war & have zero common history with Ethiopia.

By: Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed. (Somali Region News).

photo: ordinary Ogadeni Somalis like these fought to liberate their homeland of 'ogaden' from Ethiopian colonialists since this huge area was given to Ethiopia in July 24, 1948 by the British.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha (Karamara) as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The present day Ethiopia is a country that gained its current geographic shape in the late 19th century and early 20th century mostly through forceful conquest and times through 'peaceful submission' as is the case for the Somali people who integrated in to mainland Ethiopia after they gained freedom from Britain. These historic events, though documented clearly in Colonial Manuscripts, have been dictated otherwise in Ethiopian history books which are mainly written to fit the narrative of the Monarchy. It is with this understanding that some activists, prominently Jawar Mohammed, indicate that we do not have common heritage or identity as Ethiopians.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The War of 1977 was not the product of warmongering behaviour of the late Mohammed Ziad Barre nor the search for a greater Somalia but a product of the Somali youth in the Ogaden, Hawd and Reserve Areas (the three territories freed from British rule) fighting against what they deemed oppression and colonialism by the Dergue Regime. It was the youth born in this part of the country, some educated in Somalia and abroad, others living inside, who decided to fight against the Ethiopian rule and establish an independent state; a noble and courageous cause. Later, they were joined by both Oromo and Tigrayan youth who felt the same oppression in the socialist dictatorship.

The course of a long and destructive war had many faces as is claimed by many participants at that time, one being the betrayal Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) fighters felt was done on Somalia's side by donning the idea of Greater Somalia.

This later being one of the weakening factors and cause for the retreat of the joint WSLF and Somalia forces. During this war the greatest damage was inflicted upon the Somalis of Ethiopia. They were forced to flee from their homes, land and property, some not returned till date. It was the Somalis of this region that were forced to hate the idea of being part of this nation, Ethiopia for the cruelty and animosity they were dealt with by the Central government post-war. It us, Somalis of Ethiopia that lost loved ones struggling for freedom. It is us who felt the real damage and destruction left behind by a brutal war that was mostly fought on our ground.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

It is easy to claim the real reason for the current state of our country roots deeply in our history and the way it is narrated. We may remain united by force and silenced by guns but we will never achieve 'true' unity and mutual understanding lest we come together and deal with all the wrong narratives that separate us. We can not enjoy democracy and freedom till we address painful memories that disrupt our Union. Political correctness will not take us far rather we need to have frank discussions and heal both old and new wounds. We can not prosper while some are hailing ones demise and some praising ones oppressor in the name of Ethiopia!

~ Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed.

SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/Somaliregionne ... =3&theater

VIDEO: Ogaden War 1977 Somalia Ethiopia.

VIDEO: "We see them (Ogadeni rebels) as freedom fighter those you call enemies. They are our heroes. Down with your DERG Mentality. Imam Ahmed Gragn, Seyd Mohamed Abdulle Hassen, WSLF & our freedom fighters who lost their dear lives we salute and honor them. But in your shoes they are your enemies. That is why we don't share common history. You can't dictate us our history. What you call is 6 is 9 from my perspective. DERG and his missionaries massacred our people in Karamardha and many places in Somali Region.~ Ahmed Arab"

Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils

Somaliman wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:45

Selam/ wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:21

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
You now brought back a horrible war memory from its abyss, your domicile. Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils. The Ogaden war was a tragic and futile incident in which the Somali dictator, Siad Barre, miscalculated and turned the region into a turmoil, helping brutal Mengistu solidify his grip over Ethiopia. Thousands of young Ethiopians and Somalian brothers perished in this war.

Unlike your misguided timeline, the Ogaden war actually goes back to 1964 when the Somali Army attacked Ethiopian police posts around Jijijig. That triggered Ethiopia’s first response in a form of ground troops and air strike. Led by the “desert lion” Aman Andom Somalia’s offensive was completely destroyed. Had he later not been dismissed by His Majesty, General Aman would have overtaken and erased Mogadishu from the map within a few days.

Somalia military offensive reoccurred in 1977 after the fall of the Ethiopian monarchy and installment of the brutal military government called Derg. Having acquired several Soviet made fighter planes, tanks, APC’s and artilleries, Siad Barre’s army invaded Ogaden and penetrated deep into the hearts of Jijiga and Dire Dawa. Torn between internal conflicts and unable to get any military support from Jimmy Carter, Derg was at the verge of losing the entire Ogaden and Harar. But having seen the vacuum on Ethiopian side and the aggression of Somalia offensive on the other, Cuba & Soviet Union turned their backs on Siad Barre and sided with Mengistu. Thank to Barre & Carter, communist Soviet got planted in Ethiopia from then on and that was when the end of the Ogaden war and the dependence of Ethiopia ushered. Sadly enough, thousands of soldiers and civilians died on each side, specifically due to the relentless air strikes.

To me, commemorating Karamara or any war shouldn't be an attempt to glamorize or sanitize the horrors of the wars by solely depicting heroes and portraying losers. It should rather mainly be about reflecting on the past that we consider laudable to help us heal our traumatic experience and avoid conflicts in the future. I interpret war commemoration as an opportunity to pay a debt of gratitude to those who died fighting to protect us. I don’t agree with commemorative events that tend to whip up into nationalistic fervor or that are used to bolster support of a regime. For example, the World War II memorial in US is intended to honor those millions of people who served in the armed forces, not to ridicule and intimidate the loser which is Germany. Likewise, the Vietnam war is equally commemorated even though US was the aggressor and the loser.
KIFU!

yaballo wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2020, 22:14

BATTLE OF KARAMARA: Ethiopian 'History' or Myth; The Case of 1977. 'Ethio-Somalis' reject Addis's one-sided narrative of Ethio-Somali war & have zero common history with Ethiopia.

By: Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed. (Somali Region News).

photo: ordinary Ogadeni Somalis like these fought to liberate their homeland of 'ogaden' from Ethiopian colonialists since this huge area was given to Ethiopia in July 24, 1948 by the British.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha (Karamara) as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The present day Ethiopia is a country that gained its current geographic shape in the late 19th century and early 20th century mostly through forceful conquest and times through 'peaceful submission' as is the case for the Somali people who integrated in to mainland Ethiopia after they gained freedom from Britain. These historic events, though documented clearly in Colonial Manuscripts, have been dictated otherwise in Ethiopian history books which are mainly written to fit the narrative of the Monarchy. It is with this understanding that some activists, prominently Jawar Mohammed, indicate that we do not have common heritage or identity as Ethiopians.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The War of 1977 was not the product of warmongering behaviour of the late Mohammed Ziad Barre nor the search for a greater Somalia but a product of the Somali youth in the Ogaden, Hawd and Reserve Areas (the three territories freed from British rule) fighting against what they deemed oppression and colonialism by the Dergue Regime. It was the youth born in this part of the country, some educated in Somalia and abroad, others living inside, who decided to fight against the Ethiopian rule and establish an independent state; a noble and courageous cause. Later, they were joined by both Oromo and Tigrayan youth who felt the same oppression in the socialist dictatorship.

The course of a long and destructive war had many faces as is claimed by many participants at that time, one being the betrayal Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) fighters felt was done on Somalia's side by donning the idea of Greater Somalia.

This later being one of the weakening factors and cause for the retreat of the joint WSLF and Somalia forces. During this war the greatest damage was inflicted upon the Somalis of Ethiopia. They were forced to flee from their homes, land and property, some not returned till date. It was the Somalis of this region that were forced to hate the idea of being part of this nation, Ethiopia for the cruelty and animosity they were dealt with by the Central government post-war. It us, Somalis of Ethiopia that lost loved ones struggling for freedom. It is us who felt the real damage and destruction left behind by a brutal war that was mostly fought on our ground.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

It is easy to claim the real reason for the current state of our country roots deeply in our history and the way it is narrated. We may remain united by force and silenced by guns but we will never achieve 'true' unity and mutual understanding lest we come together and deal with all the wrong narratives that separate us. We can not enjoy democracy and freedom till we address painful memories that disrupt our Union. Political correctness will not take us far rather we need to have frank discussions and heal both old and new wounds. We can not prosper while some are hailing ones demise and some praising ones oppressor in the name of Ethiopia!

~ Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed.

SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/Somaliregionne ... =3&theater

VIDEO: Ogaden War 1977 Somalia Ethiopia.

VIDEO: "We see them (Ogadeni rebels) as freedom fighter those you call enemies. They are our heroes. Down with your DERG Mentality. Imam Ahmed Gragn, Seyd Mohamed Abdulle Hassen, WSLF & our freedom fighters who lost their dear lives we salute and honor them. But in your shoes they are your enemies. That is why we don't share common history. You can't dictate us our history. What you call is 6 is 9 from my perspective. DERG and his missionaries massacred our people in Karamardha and many places in Somali Region.~ Ahmed Arab"

Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils

I think you should rather direct this to Abiy Ahmed, and not Yaballo! Otherwise, you're fundamentally contradicting yourself in what you've written above, unless you're trying to fit Yaballo in this just to justify your unwarranted blatant attack towards Yaballo, driven by some sort of old grudges!

Selam/ wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 22:10

Why would I involve Abiy in this matter? It’s the Arab puppy, Yaballo, that is accusing Ethiopia as the aggressor when the reality is to the contrary. I don’t celebrate the tragedy of wars but I commemorate them. But at the same time, I speak up when anti-Ethiopian rats distort our true history.

Somaliman wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:45

Selam/ wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:21

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
You now brought back a horrible war memory from its abyss, your domicile. Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils. The Ogaden war was a tragic and futile incident in which the Somali dictator, Siad Barre, miscalculated and turned the region into a turmoil, helping brutal Mengistu solidify his grip over Ethiopia. Thousands of young Ethiopians and Somalian brothers perished in this war.

Unlike your misguided timeline, the Ogaden war actually goes back to 1964 when the Somali Army attacked Ethiopian police posts around Jijijig. That triggered Ethiopia’s first response in a form of ground troops and air strike. Led by the “desert lion” Aman Andom Somalia’s offensive was completely destroyed. Had he later not been dismissed by His Majesty, General Aman would have overtaken and erased Mogadishu from the map within a few days.

Somalia military offensive reoccurred in 1977 after the fall of the Ethiopian monarchy and installment of the brutal military government called Derg. Having acquired several Soviet made fighter planes, tanks, APC’s and artilleries, Siad Barre’s army invaded Ogaden and penetrated deep into the hearts of Jijiga and Dire Dawa. Torn between internal conflicts and unable to get any military support from Jimmy Carter, Derg was at the verge of losing the entire Ogaden and Harar. But having seen the vacuum on Ethiopian side and the aggression of Somalia offensive on the other, Cuba & Soviet Union turned their backs on Siad Barre and sided with Mengistu. Thank to Barre & Carter, communist Soviet got planted in Ethiopia from then on and that was when the end of the Ogaden war and the dependence of Ethiopia ushered. Sadly enough, thousands of soldiers and civilians died on each side, specifically due to the relentless air strikes.

To me, commemorating Karamara or any war shouldn't be an attempt to glamorize or sanitize the horrors of the wars by solely depicting heroes and portraying losers. It should rather mainly be about reflecting on the past that we consider laudable to help us heal our traumatic experience and avoid conflicts in the future. I interpret war commemoration as an opportunity to pay a debt of gratitude to those who died fighting to protect us. I don’t agree with commemorative events that tend to whip up into nationalistic fervor or that are used to bolster support of a regime. For example, the World War II memorial in US is intended to honor those millions of people who served in the armed forces, not to ridicule and intimidate the loser which is Germany. Likewise, the Vietnam war is equally commemorated even though US was the aggressor and the loser.
KIFU!

yaballo wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2020, 22:14

BATTLE OF KARAMARA: Ethiopian 'History' or Myth; The Case of 1977. 'Ethio-Somalis' reject Addis's one-sided narrative of Ethio-Somali war & have zero common history with Ethiopia.

By: Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed. (Somali Region News).

photo: ordinary Ogadeni Somalis like these fought to liberate their homeland of 'ogaden' from Ethiopian colonialists since this huge area was given to Ethiopia in July 24, 1948 by the British.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha (Karamara) as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The present day Ethiopia is a country that gained its current geographic shape in the late 19th century and early 20th century mostly through forceful conquest and times through 'peaceful submission' as is the case for the Somali people who integrated in to mainland Ethiopia after they gained freedom from Britain. These historic events, though documented clearly in Colonial Manuscripts, have been dictated otherwise in Ethiopian history books which are mainly written to fit the narrative of the Monarchy. It is with this understanding that some activists, prominently Jawar Mohammed, indicate that we do not have common heritage or identity as Ethiopians.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The War of 1977 was not the product of warmongering behaviour of the late Mohammed Ziad Barre nor the search for a greater Somalia but a product of the Somali youth in the Ogaden, Hawd and Reserve Areas (the three territories freed from British rule) fighting against what they deemed oppression and colonialism by the Dergue Regime. It was the youth born in this part of the country, some educated in Somalia and abroad, others living inside, who decided to fight against the Ethiopian rule and establish an independent state; a noble and courageous cause. Later, they were joined by both Oromo and Tigrayan youth who felt the same oppression in the socialist dictatorship.

The course of a long and destructive war had many faces as is claimed by many participants at that time, one being the betrayal Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) fighters felt was done on Somalia's side by donning the idea of Greater Somalia.

This later being one of the weakening factors and cause for the retreat of the joint WSLF and Somalia forces. During this war the greatest damage was inflicted upon the Somalis of Ethiopia. They were forced to flee from their homes, land and property, some not returned till date. It was the Somalis of this region that were forced to hate the idea of being part of this nation, Ethiopia for the cruelty and animosity they were dealt with by the Central government post-war. It us, Somalis of Ethiopia that lost loved ones struggling for freedom. It is us who felt the real damage and destruction left behind by a brutal war that was mostly fought on our ground.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

It is easy to claim the real reason for the current state of our country roots deeply in our history and the way it is narrated. We may remain united by force and silenced by guns but we will never achieve 'true' unity and mutual understanding lest we come together and deal with all the wrong narratives that separate us. We can not enjoy democracy and freedom till we address painful memories that disrupt our Union. Political correctness will not take us far rather we need to have frank discussions and heal both old and new wounds. We can not prosper while some are hailing ones demise and some praising ones oppressor in the name of Ethiopia!

~ Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed.

SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/Somaliregionne ... =3&theater

VIDEO: Ogaden War 1977 Somalia Ethiopia.

VIDEO: "We see them (Ogadeni rebels) as freedom fighter those you call enemies. They are our heroes. Down with your DERG Mentality. Imam Ahmed Gragn, Seyd Mohamed Abdulle Hassen, WSLF & our freedom fighters who lost their dear lives we salute and honor them. But in your shoes they are your enemies. That is why we don't share common history. You can't dictate us our history. What you call is 6 is 9 from my perspective. DERG and his missionaries massacred our people in Karamardha and many places in Somali Region.~ Ahmed Arab"

Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils

I think you should rather direct this to Abiy Ahmed, and not Yaballo! Otherwise, you're fundamentally contradicting yourself in what you've written above, unless you're trying to fit Yaballo in this just to justify your unwarranted blatant attack towards Yaballo, driven by some sort of old grudges!

Selam/ wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 22:10

Why would I involve Abiy in this matter? It’s the Arab puppy, Yaballo, that is accusing Ethiopia as the aggressor when the reality is to the contrary. I don’t celebrate the tragedy of wars but I commemorate them. But at the same time, I speak up when anti-Ethiopian rats distort our true history.

Somaliman wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:45

Selam/ wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2020, 19:21

Yaballo the disgusting Arab puppy,
You now brought back a horrible war memory from its abyss, your domicile. Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils. The Ogaden war was a tragic and futile incident in which the Somali dictator, Siad Barre, miscalculated and turned the region into a turmoil, helping brutal Mengistu solidify his grip over Ethiopia. Thousands of young Ethiopians and Somalian brothers perished in this war.

Unlike your misguided timeline, the Ogaden war actually goes back to 1964 when the Somali Army attacked Ethiopian police posts around Jijijig. That triggered Ethiopia’s first response in a form of ground troops and air strike. Led by the “desert lion” Aman Andom Somalia’s offensive was completely destroyed. Had he later not been dismissed by His Majesty, General Aman would have overtaken and erased Mogadishu from the map within a few days.

Somalia military offensive reoccurred in 1977 after the fall of the Ethiopian monarchy and installment of the brutal military government called Derg. Having acquired several Soviet made fighter planes, tanks, APC’s and artilleries, Siad Barre’s army invaded Ogaden and penetrated deep into the hearts of Jijiga and Dire Dawa. Torn between internal conflicts and unable to get any military support from Jimmy Carter, Derg was at the verge of losing the entire Ogaden and Harar. But having seen the vacuum on Ethiopian side and the aggression of Somalia offensive on the other, Cuba & Soviet Union turned their backs on Siad Barre and sided with Mengistu. Thank to Barre & Carter, communist Soviet got planted in Ethiopia from then on and that was when the end of the Ogaden war and the dependence of Ethiopia ushered. Sadly enough, thousands of soldiers and civilians died on each side, specifically due to the relentless air strikes.

To me, commemorating Karamara or any war shouldn't be an attempt to glamorize or sanitize the horrors of the wars by solely depicting heroes and portraying losers. It should rather mainly be about reflecting on the past that we consider laudable to help us heal our traumatic experience and avoid conflicts in the future. I interpret war commemoration as an opportunity to pay a debt of gratitude to those who died fighting to protect us. I don’t agree with commemorative events that tend to whip up into nationalistic fervor or that are used to bolster support of a regime. For example, the World War II memorial in US is intended to honor those millions of people who served in the armed forces, not to ridicule and intimidate the loser which is Germany. Likewise, the Vietnam war is equally commemorated even though US was the aggressor and the loser.
KIFU!

yaballo wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2020, 22:14

BATTLE OF KARAMARA: Ethiopian 'History' or Myth; The Case of 1977. 'Ethio-Somalis' reject Addis's one-sided narrative of Ethio-Somali war & have zero common history with Ethiopia.

By: Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed. (Somali Region News).

photo: ordinary Ogadeni Somalis like these fought to liberate their homeland of 'ogaden' from Ethiopian colonialists since this huge area was given to Ethiopia in July 24, 1948 by the British.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha (Karamara) as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The present day Ethiopia is a country that gained its current geographic shape in the late 19th century and early 20th century mostly through forceful conquest and times through 'peaceful submission' as is the case for the Somali people who integrated in to mainland Ethiopia after they gained freedom from Britain. These historic events, though documented clearly in Colonial Manuscripts, have been dictated otherwise in Ethiopian history books which are mainly written to fit the narrative of the Monarchy. It is with this understanding that some activists, prominently Jawar Mohammed, indicate that we do not have common heritage or identity as Ethiopians.

The case of the Ethio-Somali War of 1977 is like no other in showing the ramifications of false narratives in our history. Today, as some Ethiopians celebrate the Victory of Karamardha as a show of Ethiopian pride and heroism, for many in the Somali Regional State, it is brings back a painful memory of all the destruction, ruthlessness, marginalization and animosity that it caused and how the real cause of the War was changed.

The War of 1977 was not the product of warmongering behaviour of the late Mohammed Ziad Barre nor the search for a greater Somalia but a product of the Somali youth in the Ogaden, Hawd and Reserve Areas (the three territories freed from British rule) fighting against what they deemed oppression and colonialism by the Dergue Regime. It was the youth born in this part of the country, some educated in Somalia and abroad, others living inside, who decided to fight against the Ethiopian rule and establish an independent state; a noble and courageous cause. Later, they were joined by both Oromo and Tigrayan youth who felt the same oppression in the socialist dictatorship.

The course of a long and destructive war had many faces as is claimed by many participants at that time, one being the betrayal Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) fighters felt was done on Somalia's side by donning the idea of Greater Somalia.

This later being one of the weakening factors and cause for the retreat of the joint WSLF and Somalia forces. During this war the greatest damage was inflicted upon the Somalis of Ethiopia. They were forced to flee from their homes, land and property, some not returned till date. It was the Somalis of this region that were forced to hate the idea of being part of this nation, Ethiopia for the cruelty and animosity they were dealt with by the Central government post-war. It us, Somalis of Ethiopia that lost loved ones struggling for freedom. It is us who felt the real damage and destruction left behind by a brutal war that was mostly fought on our ground.

Therefore, it is with reason that the claim of 'no common history' makes sense for majority of Ethiopians especially those marginalized in the previous Monarchical and Socialist dictatorship of the Dergue. It is when we see some Ethiopians rejoicing the memory of events that are painful to other Ethiopian. It is the source of the 'emotional disintegration' and the cause of all the ill-fated actions of brutality and animosity we are currently experiencing in Ethiopia in this period of political transition.

It is easy to claim the real reason for the current state of our country roots deeply in our history and the way it is narrated. We may remain united by force and silenced by guns but we will never achieve 'true' unity and mutual understanding lest we come together and deal with all the wrong narratives that separate us. We can not enjoy democracy and freedom till we address painful memories that disrupt our Union. Political correctness will not take us far rather we need to have frank discussions and heal both old and new wounds. We can not prosper while some are hailing ones demise and some praising ones oppressor in the name of Ethiopia!

~ Dr Abdulrizack Mohammed.

SOURCE: https://www.facebook.com/Somaliregionne ... =3&theater

VIDEO: Ogaden War 1977 Somalia Ethiopia.

VIDEO: "We see them (Ogadeni rebels) as freedom fighter those you call enemies. They are our heroes. Down with your DERG Mentality. Imam Ahmed Gragn, Seyd Mohamed Abdulle Hassen, WSLF & our freedom fighters who lost their dear lives we salute and honor them. But in your shoes they are your enemies. That is why we don't share common history. You can't dictate us our history. What you call is 6 is 9 from my perspective. DERG and his missionaries massacred our people in Karamardha and many places in Somali Region.~ Ahmed Arab"

Only morons like yourself would go back four decades and salivate over the better of two evils

I think you should rather direct this to Abiy Ahmed, and not Yaballo! Otherwise, you're fundamentally contradicting yourself in what you've written above, unless you're trying to fit Yaballo in this just to justify your unwarranted blatant attack towards Yaballo, driven by some sort of old grudges!

Somaliman wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2020, 08:07

If you call Habesha fabricated falsehood and myth your true history, then good for you! You expose yourself more than anything else!

Selam/ wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2020, 08:50

Buda Woyane - I am an anti-TPLF Ethiopian who respects Eritrean and Somalian neighbors. I don’t give a damn to your rattling background noise. Make your point if you have one rather than making idiotic blanket statements. KIFU!

Somaliman wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2020, 08:07

If you call Habesha fabricated falsehood and myth your true history, then good for you! You expose yourself more than anything else!

Somaliman wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2020, 13:06

Selam/ wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2020, 08:50

Buda Woyane - I am an anti-TPLF Ethiopian who respects Eritrean and Somalian neighbors. I don’t give a damn to your rattling background noise. Make your point if you have one rather than making idiotic blanket statements. KIFU!

Somaliman wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2020, 08:07

If you call Habesha fabricated falsehood and myth your true history, then good for you! You expose yourself more than anything else!

I don’t give fuc.k whether you’re anti-TPLF, or anti-UFOs, or who you do or don’t respect! Whether you like it, or not, it’s mindless and most of all stupid of the highest order to pile all the past ills of Ethiopia onto the TPLF and sugar-coat Amhara, when we all know that Amhara is the origin of all demons of Ethiopia. Do you think the late atrocities of the TPLF would suddenly erase the past abominable monstrosity of Amhara from people’s minds! Who was running the evil show before the TPLF had started to take it over!

Do you think everybody is Eritrean who sees Ethiopian tort and iniquity only through TPLF lenses!

Rest assured nobody buys the late romantic re-writing of Amhara’s evil legacy!

Again, I don’t give a fuc.k whether you call me Woyane, or Coronavirus! Calling Woyane to anybody who disagrees with your fairy story exposes only your poor character!