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by Ejersa » 04 Jan 2020, 14:00

አቶ ጃዋር የአሜሪካ ዜግነቱን ሳይመልስ መታወቂያው ላይ ዜግነቱ ኢትዮጵያዊ እንደሆነ ተገልጿል። አንደኛ፦ ትክክለኛውን የህግ አግባብ በተከተለ መልኩ የነዋሪነት መታወቂያ የሌለው ግለሰብ ራሱን "ኢትዮጵያዊ" ብሎ የአባልነት መታወቂያ ማውጣት አይችልም። ሁለተኛ፦ የአሜሪካ ዜግነቱን ለመመለስ በቅድሚያ ከOMN ጋር በተያያዘ የተጀመረው የታክስ ማጭበርበር ወንጀል ምርመራ መጠናቀቅ አለበት። አቶ ጃዋር ባለፈው ወደ አሜሪካ የሄደው በOMN ስም በFundraising አማካኝነት የሰበሰበውን ወደ 300ሺህ ዶላር ለማስለቀቅ ነበር። ነገር ግን የአሜሪካ የሀገር ውስጥ ገቢ መስሪያ ቤት በOMN ላይ ምርመራ መጀመሩን ሲያውቅ ተስፋ ቆርጦ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ተመለሰ። ምክንያቱም ከዚህ በኋላ ጃዋር አሜሪካ ውስጥ በፌስቡክ አማካኝነት ለራሱ ሆነ ለOMN ገንዘብ መሰብሰብ አይችልም። ስለዚህ እንደ አዲስ የገንዘብ መሰብሰቢያ ያደረገው ኦፌኮን ነው። የኦፌኮ አባል ለመሆን ደግሞ እንደለመደው የአሜሪካን ዜግነት ጥሎ የአባልነት መታወቂያ አወጣ። ይሁን እንጂ ጃዋር የኢትዮጵያ ዜግነት ለማግኘት በቅድሚያ የአሜሪካን ዜግነት መታወቂያ በህጉ አግባብ መመለስ አለቀት። የአሜሪካን ዜግነት በአግባቡ ለመመለስ ደግሞ በቅድሚያ የሀገሪቱ መስሪያ ቤት የጀመረው ምርመራ መጠናቀቅ አለበት። ምርመራው ሲጠናቀቅ ደግሞ ጃዋር የOMN ስራ አስኪያጅ ከሆነበት 2015 ጀምሮ ለፈፀመው የታክስ ማጭበርበር መጠየቅ አለበት። በአሜሪካ መንግስት የተጀመረውን ምርመራ ለማምለጥ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ በመምጣት በተጨብረበረ መንገድ ኢትዮጵያዊ ዜግነት ለማግኘት በመሞከሩ ደግሞ በኢትዮጵያና አሜሪካን መንግስት ተፈላጊ ወንጀለኛ ያደርገዋል። "የቆጡን አወርድ ብላ የብብቷን ጣለች!"
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by free-tembien » 04 Jan 2020, 14:31
this is just a OFC/ኦፌኮ party id card. this is not citizen id card. read the stamp carefully, it says ኦፌኮ. so no big deal.
Ejersa wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:00

አቶ ጃዋር የአሜሪካ ዜግነቱን ሳይመልስ መታወቂያው ላይ ዜግነቱ ኢትዮጵያዊ እንደሆነ ተገልጿል። አንደኛ፦ ትክክለኛውን የህግ አግባብ በተከተለ መልኩ የነዋሪነት መታወቂያ የሌለው ግለሰብ ራሱን "ኢትዮጵያዊ" ብሎ የአባልነት መታወቂያ ማውጣት አይችልም። ሁለተኛ፦ የአሜሪካ ዜግነቱን ለመመለስ በቅድሚያ ከOMN ጋር በተያያዘ የተጀመረው የታክስ ማጭበርበር ወንጀል ምርመራ መጠናቀቅ አለበት። አቶ ጃዋር ባለፈው ወደ አሜሪካ የሄደው በOMN ስም በFundraising አማካኝነት የሰበሰበውን ወደ 300ሺህ ዶላር ለማስለቀቅ ነበር። ነገር ግን የአሜሪካ የሀገር ውስጥ ገቢ መስሪያ ቤት በOMN ላይ ምርመራ መጀመሩን ሲያውቅ ተስፋ ቆርጦ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ተመለሰ። ምክንያቱም ከዚህ በኋላ ጃዋር አሜሪካ ውስጥ በፌስቡክ አማካኝነት ለራሱ ሆነ ለOMN ገንዘብ መሰብሰብ አይችልም። ስለዚህ እንደ አዲስ የገንዘብ መሰብሰቢያ ያደረገው ኦፌኮን ነው። የኦፌኮ አባል ለመሆን ደግሞ እንደለመደው የአሜሪካን ዜግነት ጥሎ የአባልነት መታወቂያ አወጣ። ይሁን እንጂ ጃዋር የኢትዮጵያ ዜግነት ለማግኘት በቅድሚያ የአሜሪካን ዜግነት መታወቂያ በህጉ አግባብ መመለስ አለቀት። የአሜሪካን ዜግነት በአግባቡ ለመመለስ ደግሞ በቅድሚያ የሀገሪቱ መስሪያ ቤት የጀመረው ምርመራ መጠናቀቅ አለበት። ምርመራው ሲጠናቀቅ ደግሞ ጃዋር የOMN ስራ አስኪያጅ ከሆነበት 2015 ጀምሮ ለፈፀመው የታክስ ማጭበርበር መጠየቅ አለበት። በአሜሪካ መንግስት የተጀመረውን ምርመራ ለማምለጥ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ በመምጣት በተጨብረበረ መንገድ ኢትዮጵያዊ ዜግነት ለማግኘት በመሞከሩ ደግሞ በኢትዮጵያና አሜሪካን መንግስት ተፈላጊ ወንጀለኛ ያደርገዋል። "የቆጡን አወርድ ብላ የብብቷን ጣለች!"
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by Revelations » 04 Jan 2020, 14:40
Under Abiy Ahimed's rule, the "spare tire" is allowed to do whatever he wants. You're facing a contradiction in your own politics as you are a ardent supporter of Abiy Ahimed. We wish you a speedy recovery from this crisis of 'faith" in the "great leader" of yours.
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by Revelations » 04 Jan 2020, 14:46
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:31
this is just a OFC/ኦፌኮ party id card. this is not citizen id card. read the stamp carefully, it says ኦፌኮ. so no big deal.
The blind followers of "the great leader" will justify and rationalize anything/everything which he, Abiy Ahimed himself doesn't bother to justify. it's the nature of cult followers!
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by DefendTheTruth » 04 Jan 2020, 14:48
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:31
this is just a OFC/ኦፌኮ party id card. this is not citizen id card. read the stamp carefully, it says ኦፌኮ.
so no big deal.
Yes, it is a membership Id card (of a political party). But still even if I am not an expert on the subject matter here, wounder if someone body is entitled to issue an id that is not based on fact.
The bearer of the id is not an Ethiopian, that much is not disputed. But the declaration on the id says so. How to reconcile such a descrepancy? What about if there is something to hide here?
ID card is supposed to identify. If you manipulate that descriptions on ID then, there must be some legal issue here, I am afraid.
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by DefendTheTruth » 04 Jan 2020, 14:57
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:40
Under Abiy Ahimed's rule, the "spare tire" is allowed to do whatever he wants. You're facing a contradiction in your own politics as you are a ardent supporter of Abiy Ahimed. We wish you a speedy recovery from this crisis of 'faith" in the "great leader" of yours.
Sewuyew,
today you replied to a post of someone else. What are you smelling?
Abey said come and prove me wrong, he explicitly said, you are even welcome to do so.
You want to disprove that he is not a "great leader", so the easiest way for you is to face him on the level play ground. What else do you need still?
If it is difficult to give up on the burger you used to for over a number of decades, then the better alternative for you would have been admitting that Abey is indeed the "great leader" (in the absence of any other better one). Ranking kann only be done based on those who are on the field, do you expect us to take you too into consideration even when you opted to stay back at home?
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by Digital Weyane » 04 Jan 2020, 15:27
One of the smartest things our TPLF visionary leaders did was to ban dual citizenship in Ethiopia to prevent the Amhara and Oromo communities in the Diaspora from taking part in the country's political activities.
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by DefendTheTruth » 04 Jan 2020, 15:37
Digital Weyane wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:27
One of the smartest things our TPLF visionary leaders did was to ban dual citizenship in Ethiopia to prevent the Amhara and Oromo communities in the Diaspora from taking part in the country's political activities.
If they liked and cared for their country that much, then why did they assume a different citizenship in the first place??
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by Digital Weyane » 04 Jan 2020, 16:03
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:37
Digital Weyane wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:27
One of the smartest things our TPLF visionary leaders did was to ban dual citizenship in Ethiopia to prevent the Amhara and Oromo communities in the Diaspora from taking part in the country's political activities.
If they liked and cared for their country that much, then why did they assume a different citizenship in the first place??
Our great visionary leader Meles Zenawi made the same line of argument as yours and used it as a justification for banning dual citizenship privileges to both the Oromo and Amhara communities in the Diaspora. That's how we Weyane were able to rule Ethiopia for the last 27 golden years. We Weyane are Smarter than Smart Phones.

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by Revelations » 04 Jan 2020, 16:08
Digital Weyane wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 16:03
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:37
Digital Weyane wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:27
One of the smartest things our TPLF visionary leaders did was to ban dual citizenship in Ethiopia to prevent the Amhara and Oromo communities in the Diaspora from taking part in the country's political activities.
If they liked and cared for their country that much, then why did they assume a different citizenship in the first place??
Our great visionary leader Meles Zenawi made the same line of argument as yours and used it as a justification for banning dual citizenship privileges to both the Oromo and Amhara communities in the Diaspora. That's how we Weyane were able to rule Ethiopia for the last 27 golden years. We Weyane are Smarter than Smart Phones.
Does Eritrea allow dual citizenship? Ethiopia has never allowed dual citizenship::
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by gagi » 04 Jan 2020, 16:27
Regardless of the legal questions and requirements, Jawar’s formal entry into Ethiopian politics is a positive thing. More so that he joined OFC.
No other politician knows more about the savagery and “ቡዳ ፖለቲካ” of TPLF than Merara Gidina. If Jawar was left by himself or with OLF only, it would have been worrisome. He and OLF could have potentially been tempted to align themselves with fascist TPLF. Now both Jawar (and Kerro behind him) and OLF forming alliance with OFC is really a major political breakthrough for the future of the country.
Dr. Abiy’s advice and vision for the ruling as well as opposition parties seems to be on track. Parties “ሰብሰብ” እያሉ ነው as they should.
Congratulations and thank you Dr. Abiy! You are the best political leader Ethiopia can have at this critical/historical juncture.
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by Digital Weyane » 04 Jan 2020, 16:39
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 16:08
Digital Weyane wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 16:03
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:37
Digital Weyane wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 15:27
One of the smartest things our TPLF visionary leaders did was to ban dual citizenship in Ethiopia to prevent the Amhara and Oromo communities in the Diaspora from taking part in the country's political activities.
If they liked and cared for their country that much, then why did they assume a different citizenship in the first place??
Our great visionary leader Meles Zenawi made the same line of argument as yours and used it as a justification for banning dual citizenship privileges to both the Oromo and Amhara communities in the Diaspora. That's how we Weyane were able to rule Ethiopia for the last 27 golden years. We Weyane are Smarter than Smart Phones.
Does Eritrea allow dual citizenship? Ethiopia has never allowed dual citizenship::
Who cares about the irrelevant Eritrea! We Weyane would rather compare our great country Tigray with Singapore or Rwanda than with the Wesf'aatam Eritrea.
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by free-tembien » 04 Jan 2020, 18:25
i will stay a blind follower until you show me a better alternative. better to be a blind follower than a blind hater without preparing any alternative backup. can you tell us what you have in your bag if abiy/prosperity disappear tomorrow? have you thought what would happen to the country? of course not. hate is your full time job and that is what you can do nothing more. you are such a reckless and irresponsible individual.
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:46
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:31
this is just a OFC/ኦፌኮ party id card. this is not citizen id card. read the stamp carefully, it says ኦፌኮ. so no big deal.
The blind followers of "the great leader" will justify and rationalize anything/everything which he, Abiy Ahimed himself doesn't bother to justify. it's the nature of cult followers!
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by Revelations » 04 Jan 2020, 18:30
It would have been a surprise if you didn't justify your cult following nature this way.
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 18:25
i will stay a blind follower until you show me a better alternative. better to be a blind follower than a blind hater without preparing any alternative backup. can you tell us what you have in your bag if abiy/prosperity disappear tomorrow? have you thought what would happen to the country? of course not. hate is your full time job and that is what you can do nothing more. you are such a reckless and irresponsible individual.
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:46
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:31
this is just a OFC/ኦፌኮ party id card. this is not citizen id card. read the stamp carefully, it says ኦፌኮ. so no big deal.
The blind followers of "the great leader" will justify and rationalize anything/everything which he, Abiy Ahimed himself doesn't bother to justify. it's the nature of cult followers!
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by free-tembien » 04 Jan 2020, 18:38
it would have been a surprise if you actually respond to the issue I raised. there is a time where you settle for less just to save the country until you get a better alternative. destroying your own home without any alternative is stupidity at best. since you are a born blind hater, the wellbeing of a country is of course above your head. for you it is all about hate, hate and hate even at the cost of the country. a true irresponsible reckless indeed!
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 18:30
It would have been a surprise if you didn't justify your cult following nature this way.
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 18:25
i will stay a blind follower until you show me a better alternative. better to be a blind follower than a blind hater without preparing any alternative backup. can you tell us what you have in your bag if abiy/prosperity disappear tomorrow? have you thought what would happen to the country? of course not. hate is your full time job and that is what you can do nothing more. you are such a reckless and irresponsible individual.
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:46
free-tembien wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 14:31
this is just a OFC/ኦፌኮ party id card. this is not citizen id card. read the stamp carefully, it says ኦፌኮ. so no big deal.
The blind followers of "the great leader" will justify and rationalize anything/everything which he, Abiy Ahimed himself doesn't bother to justify. it's the nature of cult followers!
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by gagi » 04 Jan 2020, 20:18
“ The well-being of a country is above your head”
Well said!!!
This Revelations thing is really gullible. I have said it a long time ago. He does not have the faculty to understand his own interests!! These are the kind of people who always impeded the progress that the country wishes to make.
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by tlel » 04 Jan 2020, 21:39
An activist, lying mayming killing, cheating in america and Ethiopia, my Oromo brothers how come he is your idle?
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by Revelations » 04 Jan 2020, 23:24
And the well being of the country is placed in the hands of Jawar Mohammed by imbeciles like you.
gagi wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 20:18
“ The well-being of a country is above your head”
Well said!!!
This Revelations thing is really gullible. I have said it a long time ago. He does not have the faculty to understand his own interests!! These are the kind of people who always impeded the progress that the country wishes to make.
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by kibramlak » 05 Jan 2020, 00:58
Jawar is trying to escape from US on two things:
1) tax evasion
2) terror investigation
That said, unless he has returned his US citizenship or Abiy has instituted a dual nationality, he can't have an identity as Ethiopian. This is when we speak of law. However, in reality, fugitive terrorists can posses as many passports (from different countries) as they wish since all their path is through illegal channels. From this, if the guy is investigated, one would find many passports of Jawar, surely from some Arab countries.
All I want is this guy face Justice for the crimes he has committed VI's his terror network aka qerro.
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Naga Tuma
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by Naga Tuma » 05 Jan 2020, 01:33
You are being told that Jawar just registered as an Ethiopian citizen to become a member of a political party that wishes to compete against the new Colonel that you have been clapping for with your own hands. So, does what you wrote here make sense to your own faculty?
Revelations wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 23:24
And the well being of the country is placed in the hands of Jawar Mohammed by imbeciles like you.
gagi wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 20:18
“ The well-being of a country is above your head”
Well said!!!
This Revelations thing is really gullible. I have said it a long time ago. He does not have the faculty to understand his own interests!! These are the kind of people who always impeded the progress that the country wishes to make.