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It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Revelations » 12 Dec 2019, 14:04

While all have agreed it was the border that needed resolution, why is it necessary to add democracy, political prisoners, etc the the plate? Non of Ethiopia's business how and by whom Eritreans are ruled!





And why is Qatar stirring the pot at this time? Look in the mirror before you talk about democracy else where!


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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Temt » 12 Dec 2019, 14:36

Revelations wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 14:04
While all have agreed it was the border that needed resolution, why is it necessary to add democracy, political prisoners, etc the the plate? Non of Ethiopia's business how and by whom Eritreans are ruled!





And why is Qatar stirring the pot at this time? Look in the mirror before you talk about democracy else where!


Qatar is an Emirate in the Middle East which gained its independence on the 3rd September 1971.

Official name: State of Qatar
Political system: Constitutional Monarchy (Emirate)
Emir: Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani
Prime Minister and Minister of Interior: Abdullah bin Nasser bin Khalifa Al Thani
Capital: Doha (or Al Dawha)
Population: 2,342,725 inhabitants (2015) – Qatari
Official language: Arabic

Politics of Qatar
Emir Qatar: Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani

Qatar is a constitutional hereditary monarchy, with the Emir of Qatar as head of State and head of Government. The Al Thani family has ruled the country since the declaration of independence in 1971.
Revelation, you said it right. The hypocrisy is overwhelming. While I believe we have some challenges ahead of us, I do not believe in mixing things up. For example, the decision of the EEBC must be implemented whether Eritrea is ruled by a system that, say, the West likes or not. That is a different subject and it is Eritrean people's business to accept that or reject. I am repeating what you said for I believe that is the only way that we are going to make tangible bilateral progress on just about everything.

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by quindibu » 12 Dec 2019, 15:14

Revelations wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 14:04
While all have agreed it was the border that needed resolution, why is it necessary to add democracy, political prisoners, etc the the plate? Non of Ethiopia's business how and by whom Eritreans are ruled!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

W/o Aslequ,

I'm touched..... :P You have been at the forefront spewing your venom on this site against Eritrea for not less than a decade. Now, is that supposed to be what they call a reverse-psychology for us to turn our back on Abiy.........I know the contempt you've to your people by just seeing your daily insanely provocative, irresponsible, and infantile posts.......but don't try that with us, my friend. Keep your crocodile tears to yourself. Retard!

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Cigar » 12 Dec 2019, 15:45

No country or entity moved the goal post.
The agreement both countries signed is about their foreign policies.
Eritrea doesn't have a say in ethio internal issue, neither does ethiopia in Eritrea's.
The imaginary goal post you are talking is coming from the filthy woyanes to create havoc in Eritrea by associating Ethiopia's internal policy with Eritrea's.
Ethiopia can forgive all the criminals till the cows come home.
Eritrea doesn't necessarily need to follow it.
We will do it in our terms and in our ways if we need to do it.
So why do you even open a thread which has no relevancy to the agreements of the two nations?
Why did you conclude there won't be peace between the two countries when the fact is there is peace and if there won't be it won't be because of what the agames are making it to appear.
Internal issues that is.


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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

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Post by quindibu » 12 Dec 2019, 16:54

Revelations wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 16:08
:lol: :lol: :lol:

If those same ferenjis who have the 'penchant for smooth operation' say it, it must be true, right? :P

I know that historical amnesia is also your forte. To remind you though, it was just yesterday that US had to send, after shunning us for more than 15 years, the good Ambassador, Mr. Yamamoto, to 'consult' us how we would like to seal the fate of your illiterate Adwans- Deja-vu all over again like 1991 when your ቆራጡ መሪ ran for his life to Zimbabwe........

So, if I were you, I would take my chances with Abiy than with the ferenjis..........

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Hawzen » 12 Dec 2019, 18:58

quindibu wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 15:14
Revelations wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 14:04
While all have agreed it was the border that needed resolution, why is it necessary to add democracy, political prisoners, etc the the plate? Non of Ethiopia's business how and by whom Eritreans are ruled!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

W/o Aslequ,

I'm touched..... :P You have been at the forefront spewing your venom on this site against Eritrea for not less than a decade. Now, is that supposed to be what they call a reverse-psychology for us to turn our back on Abiy.........I know the contempt you've to your people by just seeing your daily insanely provocative, irresponsible, and infantile posts.......but don't try that with us, my friend. Keep your crocodile tears to yourself. Retard!
I am very very touched by Sister Aslequ's comments as well :lol: :lol: :lol: . My heart is warm and eyes are full of tears because of Sister Aslequ's love.

Anyway, You are absolutely right, brother Quindibu!!! Sister Aslequ is trying to outsmart Eritreans through reverse-psychology so that we will be against the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Honorable Prime Minister Dr. Abby. Nope.. it is not going to happen!!! Eritrea loves Dr. Abby regardless!!



May God bless the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Dr. Abby Ahmed, Eritrean Foreign Minister.

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Revelations » 12 Dec 2019, 19:29

Awarded since 1901 for outstanding contributions to peace, the 2019 prize recognized Abiy’s “efforts to achieve peace and international cooperation, and in particular, his decisive initiative to resolve the border conflict with neighboring Eritrea”, announced the Norwegian Nobel Committee. Yet, the much-needed institutionalization of the relations between Eritrea and Ethiopia that Abiy promised to achieve remains an undelivered goal to date.

This is worsened by the lack of communication from both governments even after the closure of their borders, making it difficult to determine why the peace process seems stuck. No official congratulatory messages released from Eritrea after Abiy championed as the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, another evidence showing the relations between the two countries have deteriorated.

Such a reality has raised as much worry as hope.

Still, the details of the agreement between Eritrea and Ethiopia remain tacit and both parties seem to overlook the importance of establishing clear mechanisms for arbitration and communication. Now the relationship between the two countries, evidently, dependent on personal relations between their heads of governments. Although Ethiopia resumed using Eritrea’s port on the Red Sea and investors from both sides began looking for business opportunities, the rules, and procedures that will regulate the resumption of trade remain undisclosed, as in the situation in the 1990s.

Along the border of the two countries, the exchange Birr for Nakfa, the most overvalued currency in Africa, the unexamined and unstudied flow of trade among the two countries even after the closure of the border and the influx of Eritrean youth refugees as well as the ignorance of both parties in demarcating the border, are amongst issues that both countries cannot afford to disregard. No discussions made so far between communities living along the border of the two countries, which is very important to implement the disputed Algiers agreement, which awarded disputed territories, including the town of Badme, to Eritrea. Such flaws also portray, if the issue is handled in a not transparent way, or at best ignored, there is no reason that history will repeat itself.

Embracing regulations and making the process of the normalization is nothing else but vitally necessary. For both countries, it is worth to recount that neither cultural/economic ties nor the close relationship between the two countries’ heads of governments prevented the deadly war, which had claimed the lives of a hundred thousand people from both sides. Overlooking the fact that Ethiopia and Eritrea are two sovereign states with individual interests, against the rhetoric that the two nations are one people, is also very important.

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

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Post by Revelations » 13 Dec 2019, 06:55

Eritrean protest hits Ethiopia PM in Stockholm: 'Nobel Prize ... not rhetoric!'




A protest took place yesterday in Stockholm against Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed Ali who is receiving the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize award today in Oslo. A handful of protesters camped outside the Norwegian parliament with placards calling for durable peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea – one of the main reasons for which Abiy was chosen as 100th Nobel winner. “Nobel Prize is for concrete peace, not rhetoric!, Eritreans were promised peace but they never found it,” some of the placards read. Most protesters were also bearing the Eritrean flag.

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/er ... ar-BBY1wxC


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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by tekeba » 13 Dec 2019, 20:16

Revelation, under cover Woyane. you are praying and wishing the peace process fails and the suffering of the two people continue. What you don't understand is you are under estimating the power of Shabia. if it was not Shabia Woyane would love to go to Addis, but Woyane mother fucxxer know well Shabia will decimate them. your social security money is not enough and you are serving as a digital woyane.

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Revelations » 13 Dec 2019, 21:14

Why are so many folks afraid to face the truth? Abiy Ahimed is telling you in the open his wishes. Why doesn't he just call Isaias instead of talking about it to the media, if everything was going well? Don't blame me for bringing you the truth and wishing a better approach to the peace deal so both nations can move to a meaningful relationship instead of just sending musicians? In fact, that's what TPLF was promoting a while back, "people to people diplomacy".


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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Aurorae » 13 Dec 2019, 22:36

Revelation,

We know you have contempt for the State of Eritrea. Regardless, the goal has not been moved. It is just TPLF has not gotten baptized yet. :P The Nobel nomination committee can nominate whomever they want to. Ethiopia or Abby has nothing to do with it. It is no secret, there is no democracy or transparency in Eritrea. The Eritrean government needs to justify the absence of popular form of government in Eritrea. This is 21st century, even the rest of Africa is shifting toward democracy.

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Revelations » 14 Dec 2019, 00:22

Aurorae wrote:
13 Dec 2019, 22:36
Revelation,

We know you have contempt for the State of Eritrea. Regardless, the goal has not been moved. It is just TPLF has not gotten baptized yet. :P The Nobel nomination committee can nominate whomever they want to. Ethiopia or Abby has nothing to do with it. It is no secret, there is no democracy or transparency in Eritrea. The Eritrean government needs to justify the absence of popular form of government in Eritrea. This is 21st century, even the rest of Africa is shifting toward democracy.
The form of government Eritrea has should not be a measuring stick on the peace deal with Ethiopia. You contradict yourself by moving the goalpost in your reply and by accusing me of contempt while it's you who's showing contempt to your own state and people by attaching unrelated conditions to peace making with Ethiopia.

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Aurorae » 14 Dec 2019, 02:43

Revelation wrote,
he form of government Eritrea has should not be a measuring stick on the peace deal with Ethiopia. You contradict yourself by moving the goalpost in your reply and by accusing me of contempt while it's you who's showing contempt to your own state and people by attaching unrelated conditions to peace making with Ethiopia.
What,
What are you smoking Rev. ? :lol: :lol: By whose definition? I am an ardent supporter of my people and my state. The HAG international ruling is still on the books. the form of government is not part of the ruling. Ethiopia has not presented that as a condition. Stop your crocodile tears. :evil: The Nobel nomination committee has nothing to do with the border ruling. For instance, Abiy released thousands of Ethiopian political prisoners. Isayas is yet to do that. Abiy is allowing democratic elections to take place, and he has only been in the office for less than four years . Isayas has been in power for the last twenty eight years. Knowing that, nominating Isayas for Nobel prize (as if he cares), damages the credibility of the nominating process. isayas surely knows he can get the prize if he does certain things such as institutionalizing the democratic process in Eritrea. So far, he is not giving any hint of that. Isayas is fine with that, so is the Nobel nomination commettee. Hence, save your crocodiles tears. :P

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Re: It's impossible to make peace with Eritrea when you keep moving the goalposts

Post by Revelations » 14 Dec 2019, 06:40

Aurorae wrote:
14 Dec 2019, 02:43
Revelation wrote,
he form of government Eritrea has should not be a measuring stick on the peace deal with Ethiopia. You contradict yourself by moving the goalpost in your reply and by accusing me of contempt while it's you who's showing contempt to your own state and people by attaching unrelated conditions to peace making with Ethiopia.
What,
What are you smoking Rev. ? :lol: :lol: By whose definition? I am an ardent supporter of my people and my state. The HAG international ruling is still on the books. the form of government is not part of the ruling. Ethiopia has not presented that as a condition. Stop your crocodile tears. :evil: The Nobel nomination committee has nothing to do with the border ruling. For instance, Abiy released thousands of Ethiopian political prisoners. Isayas is yet to do that. Abiy is allowing democratic elections to take place, and he has only been in the office for less than four years . Isayas has been in power for the last twenty eight years. Knowing that, nominating Isayas for Nobel prize (as if he cares), damages the credibility of the nominating process. isayas surely knows he can get the prize if he does certain things such as institutionalizing the democratic process in Eritrea. So far, he is not giving any hint of that. Isayas is fine with that, so is the Nobel nomination commettee. Hence, save your crocodiles tears. :P
Clearly, this thread was not about Nobel Peace Prize, was it? No amount of acrobatics with your spaghetti logic changes that. 'Nuff said already!

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