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Eritrea was not known before 1890, a year after the death of Emperor Yohannes of Ethiopia.
Menelik II offered Italy the North Mereb Region to Italy as a lease. An Italian missionary bought a piece of land from an Afari local warlord and expnaded his land larger without the knowledge of the local authorities.

The Wuchale Treaty was signed between King Menelik II of Shewa and Count PietroAntonello Italy on May 2, 1889at the town of Wuchale, Wollo Province of Amhara region .The treaty stated that the regions of Bogos, Hamasien, Akkele Guzay, and Serae were part of the Italian colony of Eritrea. This happened just 2 months after the death of Emperor Yohannes IV on 10th March 1889.
Treaty of Wichale, Wichale also spelled Ucciali, (May 2, 1889), pact signed at Wichale, Ethiopia, by the Italians and Menilek II of Ethiopia, whereby Italy was granted the northern Ethiopian territories of Bogos, Hamasen, and Akale-Guzai (modern Eritrea and northern Tigray) in exchange for a sum of money and the provision of 30,000 muskets and 28 cannons.

Article XVII of the Treaty of Wichale stated that the emperor of Ethiopia “could” have recourse to the good offices of the Italian government in his dealings with other foreign powers; but the Italian text of the treaty had the word “must.” Based on their own text, the Italians proclaimed a protectorate over Ethiopia. In September 1890, Menilek II repudiated their claim, and in 1893 he officially denounced the entire treaty. An attempt by the Italians to impose a protectorate over Ethiopia by force was finally confounded by their defeat at the Battle of Adwa on March 1, 1896. By the Treaty of Addis Ababa (Oct. 26, 1896), the country south of the Mareb and Muna rivers was restored to Ethiopia, and Italy acknowledged the absolute independence of Ethiopia.

The Hewett Treaty, also called the Treaty of Adwa, was an agreement between Britain, Egypt[a] and Ethiopia signed at Adwa on 3 June 1884. The treaty ended a long-simmering conflict between Egypt and Ethiopia, but indirectly started a new conflict between Ethiopia and Italy. It had seven articles.[1]

The terms of the treaty were negotiated at Asmara, in the northern reaches of the Ethiopian empire, by Mason Bey for Egypt, Admiral William Hewett for Britain and Ras Alula, also acting as host, for Ethiopia. Once terms had been agreed, the party moved to Adwa, where the treaty was presented to Emperor Yohannes IV of Ethiopia. The emperor demanded a seaport for Ethiopia, but later compromised. The final treaty represented a triumph of Anglo-Egyptian interests.

The first article of the treaty provided that Ethiopia would have free transit for all goods, including arms, through the port of Massawa. Britain undertook to protect this right. In the second article, Egypt returned Bogos, occupied since 1868, to Ethiopian control. In the third article, Ethiopia agreed to assist the evacuation of Egyptian troops from Kassala, Amadid and Senheit. In the fourth article, Egypt agreed to permit the passage of newly-appointed Abunas to Ethiopia. In the fifth article, Egypt and Ethiopia agreed to the extradition of criminals. In the sixth article, Ethiopia agreed to accept British arbitration in any case of disagreement with Egypt over the terms of the treaty.

Shortly after its ratification, the Italians occupied Massawa, which had been evacuated by Egypt, with tacit British approval.

In general the port of Massawa was taken from Ethiopia given to Italy by Britain ( a classical case of betrayal of white man)


Thus the so-called "Eritrea" was a collection of districts from Tigray, Ethiopia and should be given back to Tigray and Ethiopia.

To those of you who need the source
1) Wuchale Treaty - Enyclopaedia Britannica

2) Hewett Treaty - Encyclopaedia

Guys act upon the hard facts history. Do not betray your forethers. Take back The Red Sea that belongs to Ethiopia!
May God be with you!

We need to restore Ethiopia's Aksumite territories. Aksumite Empire legacies belong to all Ethiopians(Amhara, Tigray, Oromo, Somali, Wolaita, Afar etc) This is our history and we should protect it!

How can Ethiopia recover its province of Eritrea now while the country imploding inside due to the TPLF's ethnic federalism? If we oppose Italy's occupation of Eritrea, should not we oppose also the Italy's blue print of ethnic map handed down to TPLF which it implemented creating all this crisis now? Also, do you think there was a province called Tigray before Italy's occupation of Eritrea? I think Tigray sounds to me a an Awraja which might include a quite a few Wereda. It rather become larger and become a province in much later time. I don't think it include Eritrea. But I am not saying Eritrea is a province of Ethiopia. The way to bring lasting peace is not by war, but through peaceful means - war is the last resort. If war is an only means it has to go TPLF first - the inferiority ridden TPLF mislead our Eritrean brothers and sisters denying them their Ethiopiawinet which many of them still believe they are Ethiopian first.

But I am not saying Eritrea is not a province of Ethiopia, it is.

Abere wrote: ↑

23 Nov 2019, 16:50

How can Ethiopia recover its province of Eritrea now while the country imploding inside due to the TPLF's ethnic federalism? If we oppose Italy's occupation of Eritrea, should not we oppose also the Italy's blue print of ethnic map handed down to TPLF which it implemented creating all this crisis now? Also, do you think there was a province called Tigray before Italy's occupation of Eritrea? I think Tigray sounds to me a an Awraja which might include a quite a few Wereda. It rather become larger and become a province in much later time. I don't think it include Eritrea. But I am not saying Eritrea is a province of Ethiopia. The way to bring lasting peace is not by war, but through peaceful means - war is the last resort. If war is an only means it has to go TPLF first - the inferiority ridden TPLF mislead our Eritrean brothers and sisters denying them their Ethiopiawinet which many of them still believe they are Ethiopian first.

You are full of crap ጋዕጋዕ ዑጉም!

All Eritreans are Ethiopians. There is no need to allow Eritrea to secede from Ethiopia. This is a conspiracy from Egypt and other anti-Ethiopia groups.
All evidence is that Eritrea is a province of Ethiopia.
The South Mereb Region should be returned to Ethiopia to begin with.
We need to delimit the boundary between Ethiopia and "Eritrea"according to Wuchale Treaty and Addis Ababa Treaty of 1902, where Asseb port has been under Ethiopia. We need to repect the historical evidence otherwise we will end up fighting against each. Eritreans cannot control Ethiopia. Ethiopian patriots will soontake up arms to get their territory.

Temt wrote: ↑

23 Nov 2019, 16:54

Abere wrote: ↑

23 Nov 2019, 16:50

How can Ethiopia recover its province of Eritrea now while the country imploding inside due to the TPLF's ethnic federalism? If we oppose Italy's occupation of Eritrea, should not we oppose also the Italy's blue print of ethnic map handed down to TPLF which it implemented creating all this crisis now? Also, do you think there was a province called Tigray before Italy's occupation of Eritrea? I think Tigray sounds to me a an Awraja which might include a quite a few Wereda. It rather become larger and become a province in much later time. I don't think it include Eritrea. But I am not saying Eritrea is a province of Ethiopia. The way to bring lasting peace is not by war, but through peaceful means - war is the last resort. If war is an only means it has to go TPLF first - the inferiority ridden TPLF mislead our Eritrean brothers and sisters denying them their Ethiopiawinet which many of them still believe they are Ethiopian first.

You are full of crap ጋዕጋዕ ዑጉም!

@Temt

Are you denying that Eritrea never been one of the province of Ethiopia? The name Eritrea has been around only for a couple of decades in the long history. It has been part of Ethiopia for thousands of years.

Agames enter in a state of illusion & myth! You simply vomit your garbage fake history:
Eritrea in 1600- 1800

Eritrea in 1800 to 1935

This map, dated 31 August 1935, was sent to American newspapers, by Associated Press.

[/quote]Are you denying that Eritrea never been one of the province of Ethiopia? The name Eritrea has been around only for a couple of decades in the long history. It has been part of Ethiopia for thousands of years.
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የሻዕብያ እና የወያኔ ነገር በጥፋት ላይ ጥፋት፣በቅጥፈት ላይ ቅጥፈት መጨመር ነው። ይገርማል ኤርትራ የሚባል አገር አለ ሲሉን አያፍሩም። በመጀመሪያ ኤርትራ የጣልያን ቃል እንጅ ሴም ወይም የኩሽ ቃል አይደለም። እንደ እኤአ 1882 ጣልያን ኤርትራ ቅኝ ግዛቴ አልች በጉልበቷ ካርታ በእራሷ ሰርታ ለአጋር ምዕራባዊያን እወቁልኝ በተነች በኋላምከዛሬ በኦፊሴል ኤርትራ በአሳዝኝ አጋጣሚ የጣልያን ግዛት ሆነች። ታሪኩ ይኸ ነው። እድሜ የጠገቡ አባቶቻችን እኮ እስከ ቅርብ ግዜ ድረስ በአንደበታቸው የተናገሩት ነው - የሩቅ ጊዜ ታሪክ አይደለም። ኤርትራ የሚባል አገር የለም።

Why don’t anyone of you speak about the people? We all know that the world Eritrea is a Greek word which stands for the Red Sea.
As I love the idea of united Ethiopia, the priority should be the people not the land or ports.
When TPLF didn’t like the colours people’s eyes they get kicked out. If Eritrea is considered Ethiopia, the people should be Ethiopians first.

Abere wrote: ↑

23 Nov 2019, 16:50

How can Ethiopia recover its province of Eritrea now while the country imploding inside due to the TPLF's ethnic federalism? If we oppose Italy's occupation of Eritrea, should not we oppose also the Italy's blue print of ethnic map handed down to TPLF which it implemented creating all this crisis now? Also, do you think there was a province called Tigray before Italy's occupation of Eritrea? I think Tigray sounds to me a an Awraja which might include a quite a few Wereda. It rather become larger and become a province in much later time. I don't think it include Eritrea. But I am not saying Eritrea is a province of Ethiopia. The way to bring lasting peace is not by war, but through peaceful means - war is the last resort. If war is an only means it has to go TPLF first - the inferiority ridden TPLF mislead our Eritrean brothers and sisters denying them their Ethiopiawinet which many of them still believe they are Ethiopian first.

What the fxxxck are you smoking? Idiot.

Regardless of whatever it used to be, it's now a country on its own! Stop whining, get updated, and most of all get used to the new reality! Just a thought!

Somaliman wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2019, 09:18

Regardless of whatever it used to be, it's now a country on its own! Stop whining, get updated, and most of all get used to the new reality! Just a thought!

We need to accept the hard facts of history.
The world is laughing at us becuae we are landlocking Ethiopia and Eritrea occupying land and sea that does not belong to them.
This is simply stupid and ethnonationalism. Eritrea is provoking war by occupying the South Merab region which should be under Ethiopia. We need to force Eritrea to accept the historical evidence and be fait to all coutries in the area. I think Ethiopia is being disadvantaged.

Eritrea is delaying the delimitation of the boundary with Ethiopia because they know they wlllloose the South Mereb Region to Ethiopia. By delaying the delimitation Eritrea will get the current area including The South Merab Region. TPLF has purposey facilitated such situation because TPLF are from Eritrea.

Evry political group should condemn Eritrea force Eritrea to give back the South Merab Region, which belongs to Amhara and Afar.

Why don't you try and take it by Force???
We know you ain't going do a [deleted] beside whining.
We smashed Haile Silase
We Kicked Menghisto
We demolished Melles Zenawi
We waiting who is next

LeeVanCliff wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2019, 10:56

Why don't you try and take it by Force???
We know you ain't going do a [deleted] beside whining.
We smashed Haile Silase
We Kicked Menghisto
We demolished Melles Zenawi
We waiting who is next

If you are a Tigrayan, you do not call yourself "Eritrean". All Tirigna speakers icluding "Eritreans" are Tigrayans. The Beja Tribe in "Eritrea" are Tigrayans just like Kunama who Tigrayans.

I ask myself why the so-called "Eritreans" hate Tigray and Aksumite legacies. We are all Tigrayans and Aksumites. We should find a new way of uniting all on the foundation of The Aksumite legacies.

What we the Eritreans want to do is sweeten the pot to the ethiopians to load you all filthy agames with your cats and dogs and relocate you to Illubabor and bring those Illubaborian to tigray (good neighborly) and then we will give our peace loving ethiopians the port of Assab.
Do you see the hate we have towards you hasadat agame?
I mean we will be willing and ready to give one of our most expensive jewel (Assab) to them if only they can shove every filthy agame (no exception) to the extreme sourh of Ethiopia.
Who the f**k told you Eritrea belongs only to the tigrigna speaking Eritreans you weasel?
And because you can understand our tigrigna doesn't mean we have similar language. We hardly understand what the f**k you rats say any way.
We will never sit tight, untill we make you pay 10 fold of the miseries you caused our people and our country riding your white masters.

You're so funny. Both, "Eritrea" & "Ethiopia" are greek words.

Abere wrote: ↑

23 Nov 2019, 19:52

የሻዕብያ እና የወያኔ ነገር በጥፋት ላይ ጥፋት፣በቅጥፈት ላይ ቅጥፈት መጨመር ነው። ይገርማል ኤርትራ የሚባል አገር አለ ሲሉን አያፍሩም። በመጀመሪያ ኤርትራ የጣልያን ቃል እንጅ ሴም ወይም የኩሽ ቃል አይደለም። እንደ እኤአ 1882 ጣልያን ኤርትራ ቅኝ ግዛቴ አልች በጉልበቷ ካርታ በእራሷ ሰርታ ለአጋር ምዕራባዊያን እወቁልኝ በተነች በኋላምከዛሬ በኦፊሴል ኤርትራ በአሳዝኝ አጋጣሚ የጣልያን ግዛት ሆነች። ታሪኩ ይኸ ነው። እድሜ የጠገቡ አባቶቻችን እኮ እስከ ቅርብ ግዜ ድረስ በአንደበታቸው የተናገሩት ነው - የሩቅ ጊዜ ታሪክ አይደለም። ኤርትራ የሚባል አገር የለም።