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The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 30 Sep 2019, 16:54

We are now approaching precipitately to the ultimate liquidation of the country while the current administration is showing no clarity in dealing with those who massacre Amaras just because who they are. ADP has now openly and unequivocally declared that TPLF has opened a proxy war using the Qimant bandas as tools. OLF medias are trying so desperately to spin the massacre and give unhelpful coverage contrary to the facts.

ADP is slowly but surely coming out of its shell and calling a spade by its true name. TPLF is the enemy and no amount of soft power has helped so far in dealing with the group's transgressions. It is a matter of when otherwise the real confrontation is about to come willy-nilly.







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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 30 Sep 2019, 17:12

This is the newly upgraded and inaugurated air-force command center in western Ethiopia .


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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 30 Sep 2019, 17:15

Russian Orthodox Church and the visit to Gondar.
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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by mollamo » 01 Oct 2019, 00:38

The Federal government need to stop this TPLFists and The OMN radicals who are advocating for the two brotherly people kill each other.
it is clear now that TPLF/OMN are working together to kill the Amhara people.

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by EPRDF » 01 Oct 2019, 11:29

employing qimant as tool to massacre Amara


Last time I checked in there are less than a couple thousand Qimant speakers exist in the region, Most Amharanized and sealed.

So how that could be possible few thousands of qimants going into massacre millions of Amharas?

No make sense it is just BS.

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Oct 2019, 11:52

EPRDF wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 11:29
employing qimant as tool to massacre Amara


Last time I checked in there are less than a couple thousand Qimant speakers exist in the region, Most Amharanized and sealed.

So how that could be possible few thousands of qimants going into massacre millions of Amharas?

No make sense it is just BS.
Perhaps you should have check alternatives sources than the script provided by Papa TPLF to know the size of Qimant Population. However, the issue here is not the number of the villains but their designated mission of executing innocent civilians which you seem to enjoy. Your "fact based" research is always pointed as was observed by your recent post awarding the ownership right of WolQait and Raya to TPLF :mrgreen: The problem here is Halafi will be unhappy by your blatant iteration of his reliable comrades and errand tools as a couple of thousands. :mrgreen:

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Oct 2019, 12:13

Questions to ADP and its leaders about the current massacre of innocent Amaras. Honest answers and self examination should be sought.


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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Oct 2019, 12:38

https://mereja.com/amharic/v2/153297

DW : በአማራ ክልል ማዕከላዊ ጎንደር ዞን ትናንት ጠዋት ማንነታቸው ያልታወቀ ሰዎች በመኪና ይጓዙ በነበሩ ሰዎች ላይ በፈጸሙት ጥቃት የሰዎች ህይወት ማለፉን መንግስትና የአካባቢው ነዋሪዎች ገልፀዋል፡፡ ትናንትና ጠዋት ከጭልጋ ወደ መተማ በሚጓዝ ተሸከርካሪ ከነበሩ ተሳፋሪዎች መካከል ግንት በተባለ ቦታ ላይ ታጣቂዎቹ የተሳፋሪዎችን መታወቂያቸውን እያዩ 6ቱን ለይተው እንደገደሏቸው አንድ የጎንደር ከተማ ነዋሪ ለዶቼ ቬለ ተናግረዋል፡፡ ከጥቃቱ በኋላም የጎንደር ከተማና አካባቢው ወጣቶች ዛሬ ጠዋትና ትናንትና ወደተለያዩ አቅጣጫዎች የሚወስዱ አቢይ መንገዶችን በደንጋይ ዘግተው እንደነበር እና አንድ ሆቴል እንዳወደሙ የአይን እማኙ ለዶየቼ ቬለ ተናግረዋል፡፡ የአማራ ክልል ፖሊስ ኮሚሽን ከጥቃቱ በኋላ ደረሰ ስለተባለው ግጭት ዝርዝር የምርመራ ውጤት እንዳልደረሰው ለዶቼቬለ አስታውቋል።

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Sadacha Macca » 01 Oct 2019, 12:51

The same people who cry about oromos and call them every insult from invader to the g word, are now mad that a minority whose land was conquered by expanding amaras, are wanting self rule? And to preserve their nearly extinct language?
How can what, 765,000 agaws (qemants a branch of them) be a threat to what, 25 to 30 million amaras?!

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by EPRDF » 01 Oct 2019, 15:17

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 11:52
Perhaps you should have check alternatives sources than the script provided by Papa TPLF to know the size of Qimant Population. However, the issue here is not the number of the villains but their designated mission of executing innocent civilians which you seem to enjoy. Your "fact based" research is always pointed as was observed by your recent post awarding the ownership right of WolQait and Raya to TPLF :mrgreen: The problem here is Halafi will be unhappy by your blatant iteration of his reliable comrades and errand tools as a couple of thousands. :mrgreen:
Wendime Za-llmaknun,

I didn't say the entire population of Qimant is a couple of thousands. I said only couple of thousands of them left speaking their language, but the rest adapted Amharic language due to assimilation into Amhara culture. They might have a number as high as a million I'am not sure about that, but from my standing point of view, all Qimantes - regardless of their linguistic affiliation - this time demanding self rule and as a result they have been receiving a brute force in return by their lifetime neighbor, Amhara and its administration.


You know Dergue used to name his opponents, adhariwoch, yefeudal nezerazgoch, and Woyane in his turn neftegnoch, OLFOCH and both lost the battle at the end, and now you are saying the tools of Tplf/OLF instead of being a wise human and to address their quest in accordance with the constitution of the land that grants nation and nationalities a self determination.

At last again, there is no way Qimants or the Agaws at large can take an arm and confront to massacre millions of Amhara as you want us to believe. Your claim is simply baseless.

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Oct 2019, 15:55

EPRDF wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 15:17
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 11:52
Perhaps you should have check alternatives sources than the script provided by Papa TPLF to know the size of Qimant Population. However, the issue here is not the number of the villains but their designated mission of executing innocent civilians which you seem to enjoy. Your "fact based" research is always pointed as was observed by your recent post awarding the ownership right of WolQait and Raya to TPLF :mrgreen: The problem here is Halafi will be unhappy by your blatant iteration of his reliable comrades and errand tools as a couple of thousands. :mrgreen:
Wendime Za-llmaknun,

I didn't say the entire population of Qimant is a couple of thousands. I[b] said only couple of thousands of them left speaking their language, but the rest adapted Amharic language due to assimilation into Amhara culture.[/b] They might have a number as high as a million I'am not sure about that, but from my standing point of view, all Qimantes - regardless of their linguistic affiliation - this time demanding self rule and as a result they have been receiving a brute force in return by their lifetime neighbor, Amhara and its administration.


You know Dergue used to name his opponents, adhariwoch, yefeudal nezerazgoch, and Woyane in his turn neftegnoch, OLFOCH and both lost the battle at the end, and now you are saying the tools of Tplf/OLF instead of being a wise human and to address their quest in accordance with the constitution of the land that grants nation and nationalities a self determination.

At last again, there is no way Qimants or the Agaws at large can take an arm and confront to massacre millions of Amhara as you want us to believe. Your claim is simply baseless.
EPRDF,

If you had followed the developments in the region in general and this case in particular, you would have at least be true to your consciousness. But I understand that the deep hate that you have for the Amhara people as people could cloud your judgement even if you try. The war that has been waged against the Amara people didn't start today and it won't end so soon.

We understand that there is a huge price to pay to correct the long overdue misadventures of TPLF and, you will soon learn that reciprocity will be in order. Had you been honest to yourself, you would never have tried to categorize the issue as a quest for identity only. The amara region is the only region, by the way, which gives recognition to all the ethnicity living there as should be. Now tell me if there is any other region that does do same in its own fiefdom. You could perhaps reason that the dozen million amaras living in other regions are invisible or they are by ordinance of your constitution doesn't fit to be first class citizens of the country. I get that.

You could be an Oromo speaking amharic or amara speaking Tigrigna. That doesn't alter the underlying fact of your ethnic identity. Moreover, it isn't about the who has the biggest population size, it rather is about the reckless devastation that the few thousands can cause on the region and the peaceful residents with the ill mission that they carry for their paymasters. A few thousand bandits well armed with heavy weaponry can cause huge devastation in a certain area. We all know TPLF is now even declaring in the open that it might go for an all-out evasion of the region "to save the Qimants" Good luck with that ! :mrgreen:

For the likes of you there is only one side and, that is your hateful TPLF side. The security apparatus of the region is openly saying that they have hard evidence to support as to who is behind all these mayhem. Your party is implicated and, here you are trying to make it a number game. If it was about number, the none amaras in the region are only about 5% of the entire population. I am not trying to make you believe in anything...for I knew how you already made up your mind not to see reality even if it hits you squarely on the nose. That doesn't mean that there is no reality. You may believe in your make believe-reality but we can't stop telling the story as is.

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Oct 2019, 17:45

Sadacha Macca wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 12:51
The same people who cry about oromos and call them every insult from invader to the g word, are now mad that a minority whose land was conquered by expanding amaras, are wanting self rule? And to preserve their nearly extinct language?
How can what, 765,000 agaws (qemants a branch of them) be a threat to what, 25 to 30 million amaras?!
Shooting a father of two in front of his children could be nothing in some part of the country. However, executing civilians who just go about their daily business, is completely unacceptable in other parts of the country. The huge media coverage by TPLF/OLF media misrepresenting the facts is a huge testament as to what the grand plan could be. A threat to one is a threat to all, is how we see when it comes to the actions of the hired hands against innocent farmers. Butchering and mutilating a dead amara person after killing is a sign of evil that has to be stopped once and for all whether the action comes from the hired hands or those who assume representing certain sections of the society. One life lost is one too many for some of us.

The land of the Amaras has been unjustly expanded on and expropriated, not the other way around. Ill feelings and stereotypical mischaracterization won't substitute the reality on the ground. The good Qimant people have not been denied of their identity or self administration. It instead is an excuse by Ye-Qen-jboch to ignite a civil war for a possible come back to Menilik palace. I am baffled by the fact that such statements are coming from those who were at the receiving end of TPLF's brutal stick and, whose kilil swallows all identities in favor of one. :mrgreen:

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Sadacha Macca » 01 Oct 2019, 21:16

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 17:45
Sadacha Macca wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 12:51
The same people who cry about oromos and call them every insult from invader to the g word, are now mad that a minority whose land was conquered by expanding amaras, are wanting self rule? And to preserve their nearly extinct language?
How can what, 765,000 agaws (qemants a branch of them) be a threat to what, 25 to 30 million amaras?!
Shooting a father of two in front of his children could be nothing in some part of the country. However, executing civilians who just go about their daily business, is completely unacceptable in other parts of the country. The huge media coverage by TPLF/OLF media misrepresenting the facts is a huge testament as to what the grand plan could be. A threat to one is a threat to all, is how we see when it comes to the actions of the hired hands against innocent farmers. Butchering and mutilating a dead amara person after killing is a sign of evil that has to be stopped once and for all whether the action comes from the hired hands or those who assume representing certain sections of the society. One life lost is one too many for some of us.

The land of the Amaras has been unjustly expanded on and expropriated, not the other way around. Ill feelings and stereotypical mischaracterization won't substitute the reality on the ground. The good Qimant people have not been denied of their identity or self administration. It instead is an excuse by Ye-Qen-jboch to ignite a civil war for a possible come back to Menilik palace. I am baffled by the fact that such statements are coming from those who were at the receiving end of TPLF's brutal stick and, whose kilil swallows all identities in favor of one. :mrgreen:


Wrong is wrong regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrator, Adelem ende?
Criminals from both sides in this fight, (amara fi qimant) should be brought to justice.
At the same time, do not expect us to only take your word for it as an amara, while expecting us to ignore what the qimant are saying about the situation. A person trying to be impartial would hear both sides out and then their best to do their own research(if at all possible).
History shows that qimant/agaw occupied more lands than they do now, amara expanded and conquered much of it. Im not mad at conquering cause we've all done it. But to deny this is to deny the truth though.

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by EPRDF » 02 Oct 2019, 11:31

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
01 Oct 2019, 15:55

EPRDF,

If you had followed the developments in the region in general and this case in particular, you would have at least be true to your consciousness. But I understand that the deep hate that you have for the Amhara people as people could cloud your judgement even if you try. The war that has been waged against the Amara people didn't start today and it won't end so soon.
Lololol za-llmaknun, I hate Amharas as a people lololo, wow.

This is a discussion forum where we learn from one another just take easy, mate.

Ok now tell me Why would I hate Amharas? What am I supposed to do not to hate Amharas? Do I have to accept everything what Amharas have been doing and saying as a blessing?
Do I have to stand and to insult, degrade or may be kill Tigres and Oromos to show my love to Amharas or to be an Ethiopian and a patriot?

First of all leave the poor, the lottery ticket vendor ብርድ ልብስ ተከናናቢ ጎጀሜ አማራ, who runs in the city of Addis Ababa to earn his living by selling a ticket aside, because I or anybody else for that matter have nothing against such ordinary people.

Second, I and many others are critics of Amhara elites who want to keep the revival of an Ethiopia that was established in their image a century ago. Yes, we are absolutely against Amharas who dismiss the pluralist, multicultural Ethiopia we yearn to see. Those types of Amharas are being criticized by their political move of right and wrong just like every other political group of ethnicity and entity whether be it of Oromos or Tigrays. Nothing personal!

Assuming you are an Amara and many of you of course, you think you are entitled to criticize or to insult other nationalities using all kinds of derogatory terms in some cases, and in return when others criticize or say a single word about Amhara, they are automatically being characterized as haters, traitors, Bandas, hager afrashoch, anti Ethiopia and haters of general Amhara population in your eyes. So you guys are expecting others to consider Amhara as an angel where as looking at themselves as a Satan. lololol.

If you feel Amharas suffered more than any other group of people in the country, just bring your case supported by concrete evidence and let us review our stance, that might change the opinion of mine and many others’. To my knowledge, out of all those millions of displaced people inside their country, the vast majority of them are southerners plus Oromos and Somalis.

From Meles to Hailemariam to Abiy, Amharas are and have always been the component of the federal government of Ethiopia so they are not immune from any kind of allegations you try to impose on others. If you want to hold accountable somebody for the suffering of Amharas as per you claim, first hold your own people and nobody else.

As for my being Amhara hater, my stance is and has always been..

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 10 Oct 2019, 19:43

https://www.ethiopiaobserver.com/2019/1 ... -violence/

"The Kimant are a small ethnic group, roughly around 200,000, who most of them speak Amharic language. They live along an axis stretching from Ayikel in Chilga woreda to Kirkar north to Lake Tana in the woredas of Lay Armachohi, Qwara, Dembiya, Metemma, and Wogera. Though they complain of discrimination on the grounds of religious practices in the past, they have similar cultural and linguistic affinity with the Amhara.

The TPLF that has dominated the Ethiopian political scene for the past 27 years is often accused of using the fluid identity questions of Kimant and Agew against the Amhara region as aninstrument for proxy war."

"The Amhara region Police Commissioner Abera Adamu pointed fingers at TPLF for arming militias that have attacked villages in North Gondar this week. Dozens of people including policemen have been killed and several others wounded in an attack in Chilga town by groups armed with heavy artilleries and snipers and claiming to represent the Kimant identity question, the Police Commissioner said. Among the victims were six bus passengers from the Amhara ethnic group who were killed after singled out from the rest of the passengers, it was said."

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Re: The concerted effort between TPLF and OLF, employing Qimant as tool to Massacre Amara

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 17 Oct 2019, 19:53

The carnage on the amara people by TPLF is still on going. Huge displacements and civilian death in Gondar and environs. This is believed to be the first test of TPLF's planned civil war in the country. Tigrai online openly declares that TPLF is determined to see that the Amara Region become a war zone.
http://www.tigraionline.com/articles/cr ... iopia.html


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