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[DefendTheTruth]

ባአሁኑ ሳአት ኦሮሞዎች ለወሬ ግዜም የለቸውም፣ አ. አ. ማስወብ፣ ግብርናን ማስዘማን፣ አግርታዋን ወደ አረንጓዴነት መቀየር፣ ወዘተርፈ.

በአንስጻሩ አማሮች አለም ሁሉ ኢየዞሩ ወሬ መሰለቅ፣ ተቕወሞ ሰልፍ፣ ሰብሳባ፣ ወሬ መሰረጫት፣ በሬ ወለደ ትርክት ማሰራጨት፣ ወዘተርፈ

Some Oromos extremists need to finally give up on their baseless claim of Oromos were colonized by Ethiopians (mostly Amharas and the Tigreans, whom they called the Habeshas).

Amharas rule for over 100 years without any interruption didn't plant 4 Billiopn trees to make Ethiopia the great green, the Tigreans who were at the helm of the state power for nearily 30 years didn't plant even half this amount. Oromo came to power and started to plant 4 billion trees in just over a year at the state helm, breaking the record in the effort to make Ethiopia green again.

At the same time Bere wolede so called Amhara activists are running out of steam, before they have even started in earnst.

The so called Baldi Ras "activists" run out of steam and started to call on the diaspora to not to participate in the diaspora trust fund initiative of the currrent PM.

[Degnet]

ባአሁኑ ሳአት ኦሮሞዎች ለወሬ ግዜም የለቸውም፣ አ. አ. ማስወብ፣ ግብርናን ማስዘማን፣ አግርታዋን ወደ አረንጓዴነት መቀየር፣ ወዘተርፈ.

በአንስጻሩ አማሮች አለም ሁሉ ኢየዞሩ ወሬ መሰለቅ፣ ተቕወሞ ሰልፍ፣ ሰብሳባ፣ ወሬ መሰረጫት፣ በሬ ወለደ ትርክት ማሰራጨት፣ ወዘተርፈ

Some Oromos extremists need to finally give up on their baseless claim of Oromos were colonized by Ethiopians (mostly Amharas and the Tigreans, whom they called the Habeshas).

Amharas rule for over 100 years without any interruption didn't plant 4 Billiopn trees to make Ethiopia the great green, the Tigreans who were at the helm of the state power for nearily 30 years didn't plant even half this amount. Oromo came to power and started to plant 4 billion trees in just over a year at the state helm, breaking the record in the effort to make Ethiopia green again.

At the same time Bere wolede so called Amhara activists are running out of steam, before they have even started in earnst.

The so called Baldi Ras "activists" run out of steam and started to call on the diaspora to not to participate in the diaspora trust fund initiative of the currrent PM.

What are trying to tell us,yehen pm kaldegefe hulu waga yelwm new,and your reasoning 100 years before most of the place was green/meleak asmeseleh atesalew,with out the support of all Ethiopians,he was nothing.Do you know how many Amharans support Ethiopia.Just don't generalize and Eskinder is not such a bad person.

[DefendTheTruth]

What are trying to tell us,yehen pm kaldegefe hulu waga yelwm new,and your reasoning 100 years before most of the place was green/meleak asmeseleh atesalew,with out the support of all Ethiopians,he was nothing.Do you know how many Amharans support Ethiopia.Just don't generalize and Eskinder is not such a bad person.

Degnet,

no I am not generalizing, the whole people has never been in power and can't blamed or praised for the faults or gains that we assume has been occurred. My comment refers to those who claim to be activists and other kind of actors in the name of the fast people. In my view if you got down to the level of the people, there will not be an easy task to draw a border between the two great peoples of Ethiopia. It is not about the people here, obviously.

It is about those who claim to be politicians. BZW, I am not part of this Oromo politicians that is currently in power in the country, i am a third party observer.

Baldi Ras claimed it will do better for the people than those who are in office currently and called on them to halt implementing some measures that ar e needed to administer the affairs of the city.

Recently I heard somewhere a guy called Ermias Legesse making a call to boycot the trust fund iniative and announcing that he became the vice chair of the same entity calling itself Baldiras.

So, according to your judgement is it okay for an entity to claim that it will serve the interest of the people better than those in office and turn around to make a call to boycot the initiative those in office have created?

[Degnet]

What are trying to tell us,yehen pm kaldegefe hulu waga yelwm new,and your reasoning 100 years before most of the place was green/meleak asmeseleh atesalew,with out the support of all Ethiopians,he was nothing.Do you know how many Amharans support Ethiopia.Just don't generalize and Eskinder is not such a bad person.

Degnet,

no I am not generalizing, the whole people has never been in power and can't blamed or praised for the faults or gains that we assume has been occurred. My comment refers to those who claim to be activists and other kind of actors in the name of the fast people. In my view if you got down to the level of the people, there will not be an easy task to draw a border between the two great peoples of Ethiopia. It is not about the people here, obviously.

It is about those who claim to be politicians. BZW, I am not part of this Oromo politicians that is currently in power in the country, i am a third party observer.

Baldi Ras claimed it will do better for the people than those who are in office currently and called on them to halt implementing some measures that ar e needed to administer the affairs of the city.

Recently I heard somewhere a guy called Ermias Legesse making a call to boycot the trust fund iniative and announcing that he became the vice chair of the same entity calling itself Baldiras.

So, according to your judgement is it okay for an entity to claim that it will serve the interest of the people better than those in office and turn around to make a call to boycot the initiative those in office have created?

Swoch nachew eko yababasut,mejemeria lemn egna Addis Abebewoch shumet altesetenm new,ewnetachewn new degmo,selamawi tiakewn degagmew be mekelkel ababasut ahun eko muhuranm eygebubet new/Ye Ethiopia mengist new enedgfew alen gen endalefew ayhun/Holland west vrienden politics yebalal/terguamewom guadegnochen leketer new.

[Dawi]

Swoch nachew eko yababasut,mejemeria lemn egna Addis Abebewoch shumet altesetenm new,ewnetachewn new degmo,selamawi tiakewn degagmew be mekelkel ababasut ahun eko muhuranm eygebubet new/Ye Ethiopia mengist new enedgfew alen gen endalefew ayhun

Degnet,

Thanks for breaking the issue and giving it a simple answer.

Say, why not ask/offer Ermias Legesse to be the interim Mayer-ship of Addis Ababa?
He is former EPRDF and "pioneer" change agent. Why is the government afraid of him and Eskinder?
I don't get it.

Don't take me wrong, I like Takele Uma, a wonderful Ethiopian; the problem is, he is put in a rock and hard place. I feel sorry for him.

Defend here is talking like TPLF of the past that, the camels keep going the dogs bark! "ኦሮሞ አገር ይገነባል፣ አማረ ውሬ ይሰልቃል"

Why stoop that low again? Shouldn't we learn something from the past?

If such concept failed in the past, why would it work today?.

[Ethoash]

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[Degnet]

i think u guys i dont think how mayorship work

this is not king system where one guy say goes.. he have x number of Councilors ..this Councilors represent wards

for example from መርካቶ፣ ከፒያሳ፣ ከቄራ እየተባለ በይስፈሩ እንደራሴ ይመርጥና አንዳንድ ድምፅ ይኖራቸዋል this means we can appoint both Ermias Legesse and Eskinder as Councilors and they can check the power of Takele Uma... this way Takele Uma can not run the city as if he is king ... this way we can make everyone happy... for example if Addis Ababa ahve 25 ward or ቀበሌ፣ ሰፈር ሁሉም በየስፈሩ የሚስማማውን የስራልኛል ያለውን ይመርጣል 25 kings and Uma will be king of king checked up 25 kings if 8 of king side with him UMA WORD GO otherwise it fail this way we make everyone happy

You are talking about Europe and the USA,income and the standared of living of the people is important here,sle hagerachen enzen enkebaber

[Ethoash]

i think u guys i dont think how mayorship work

this is not king system where one guy say goes.. he have x number of Councilors ..this Councilors represent wards

for example from መርካቶ፣ ከፒያሳ፣ ከቄራ እየተባለ በይስፈሩ እንደራሴ ይመርጥና አንዳንድ ድምፅ ይኖራቸዋል this means we can appoint both Ermias Legesse and Eskinder as Councilors and they can check the power of Takele Uma... this way Takele Uma can not run the city as if he is king ... this way we can make everyone happy... for example if Addis Ababa ahve 25 ward or ቀበሌ፣ ሰፈር ሁሉም በየስፈሩ የሚስማማውን የስራልኛል ያለውን ይመርጣል 25 kings and Uma will be king of king checked up 25 kings if 8 of king side with him UMA WORD GO otherwise it fail this way we make everyone happy

[DefendTheTruth]

Defend here is talking like TPLF of the past that, the camels keep going the dogs bark! "ኦሮሞ አገር ይገነባል፣ አማረ ውሬ ይሰልቃል"

Why stoop that low again? Shouldn't we learn something from the past?

If such concept failed in the past, why would it work today?.

Dawi,

you used to be someone I tried to read here, hoping you are free from the "hard-rock" you talked about in your answer Degnet.

So, please give me an honest answer if you participated in the tree planting initiative of the country? If you are physically not there then perhaps through one of your family members or other associates back there, who could have planted the tree somewhere in the premise of your own friends, family, or any other associates?

Did you participate or not?

[Dawi]

Defend,

Degnet hit the nail on the head! "mejemeria lemn egna Addis Abebewoch shumet altesetenm"


I do support "tree planting" and am against those who mix it with politics but, the title of your thread was alarming, that is why I agreed with Degnet's point.

I don't see Ermias/Eskinder opposing tree planting and other developments as you do for some reason so, they feel cornered right now and are trying to defend themselves. I don't know why some Oromo activists are opposing them. Even Jawar is on the records supporting Eskinder's right to organize.

Why not let him do that?

Defend here is talking like TPLF of the past that, the camels keep going the dogs bark! "ኦሮሞ አገር ይገነባል፣ አማረ ውሬ ይሰልቃል"

Why stoop that low again? Shouldn't we learn something from the past?

If such concept failed in the past, why would it work today?.

Dawi,

you used to be someone I tried to read here, hoping you are free from the "hard-rock" you talked about in your answer Degnet.

So, please give me an honest answer if you participated in the tree planting initiative of the country? If you are physically not there then perhaps through one of your family members or other associates back there, who could have planted the tree somewhere in the premise of your own friends, family, or any other associates?

Did you participate or not?

[DefendTheTruth]

I don't see Ermias/Eskinder opposing tree planting and other developments as you do for some reason so, they feel cornered right now and are trying to defend themselves. I don't know why some Oromo activists are opposing them. Even Jawar is on the records supporting Eskinder's right to organize.

Why not let him do that?

It is on the record now the wanna be activist liar Ermias Legesse called on his few rally participants to NOT TO TAKE PART IN THE DIASPORA TRUST FUND Initiative.

One of his lumpen associate in here was recycling and echoing about "tree planting politics".

And you dare to deny this, it is up to you.

But what is wrong if we plant tree and do politiking at the same time? Should we still wait for starting to develop our country till until those who are hell-bent on grabbing the power by all means actually come to power as well? That will not happen in a century and I don't think our people will agree or are ready to hold back the development of their country for another century.

Mind you I am not that much a supporter of the government but I am against Iskinder Nega's attempt to grab the power through unconstituional means.

My stand from the beginning has been that there shouldn't be a transitional government, the current existing constitution has to be the basis for the political games that should follow and rule of law must be upheld in all of our collective and individual activities? And iskinder nega colluded with all these premises and that is why I am against his activities.

That has nothing to do with his personality but with his actions, which is a challange for the democratisation effort of our country. Where is that problem?

[DefendTheTruth]

Dawi,

anyhow why did you avoid to answer the question about if you have participated in planting the tree initiative?

Could you say yes or no?

[mitmitaye]

ባአሁኑ ሳአት ኦሮሞዎች ለወሬ ግዜም የለቸውም፣ አ. አ. ማስወብ፣ ግብርናን ማስዘማን፣ አግርታዋን ወደ አረንጓዴነት መቀየር፣ ወዘተርፈ.

በአንስጻሩ አማሮች አለም ሁሉ ኢየዞሩ ወሬ መሰለቅ፣ ተቕወሞ ሰልፍ፣ ሰብሳባ፣ ወሬ መሰረጫት፣ በሬ ወለደ ትርክት ማሰራጨት፣ ወዘተርፈ

Hehe.. for the last 27years woyane told us that- Amara this Amara that.., where is woyane today? Bewushet silatan ayQoyim.. remember woyane told us they would rule Ethiopia for a 100 years today, some oromos are echoing the same sentiment.. 'history repeats itself'. Remember, its because of the Amara and the south political leaders that Abiy is a PM today. So be grateful

Majority Ethiopians welcomed Abiy for change.. yet many tebab Oromos are getting excited and spoiling the achievement.. with the hatered and lies that's coming from Oromo Gora might speed your demise. You will not last 5years unless you respect the rest of us- Ethiopians!! As the saying goes-- Egnam Bet Esat Ale

[DefendTheTruth]

ባአሁኑ ሳአት ኦሮሞዎች ለወሬ ግዜም የለቸውም፣ አ. አ. ማስወብ፣ ግብርናን ማስዘማን፣ አግርታዋን ወደ አረንጓዴነት መቀየር፣ ወዘተርፈ.

በአንስጻሩ አማሮች አለም ሁሉ ኢየዞሩ ወሬ መሰለቅ፣ ተቕወሞ ሰልፍ፣ ሰብሳባ፣ ወሬ መሰረጫት፣ በሬ ወለደ ትርክት ማሰራጨት፣ ወዘተርፈ

Hehe.. for the last 27years woyane told us that- Amara this Amara that.., where is woyane today? Bewushet silatan ayQoyim.. remember woyane told us they would rule Ethiopia for a 100 years today, some oromos are echoing the same sentiment.. 'history repeats itself'. Remember, its because of the Amara and the south political leaders that Abiy is a PM today. So be grateful

Majority Ethiopians welcomed Abiy for change.. yet many tebab Oromos are getting excited and spoiling the achievement.. with the hatered and lies that's coming from Oromo Gora might speed your demise. You will not last 5years unless you respect the rest of us- Ethiopians!! As the saying goes-- Egnam Bet Esat Ale

You expect Oromos to rule for the next 5 years, in my view they shouldn't rule for even 2 years (1 year is already over now) IF they don't make it better. Replacing those in power to just be in power is not my conviction, but it seems that is of yours.

The first thing you should have denounced for your own credibility would have been distancing yourself from the moral debacle some people in the name of Amhara activism brought on themselves.

I cited some instances where the so called Oromo activists are trying to contribute towards the betterment of the country, while those of their counterparts from the Amhara side are tirelessily repeating again and again about their "Bere Wolede" trikit, you seem to be unsettled about it if someone tells you about it. But why?

[DefendTheTruth]

And it is not a bad idea to take note of those who are contributing towards developing the country and those who run around to make talks, whereby they also call on those who could take part in developing the country to withhold their effort, saying "don't take part in the diaspora trust fund initiative".

[DefendTheTruth]

Haile Gebreselassie, a hero ones; a hero for ever, a true son of Ethiopia.

Not only by paying his money as a tax for the country, but also by being a role model for many young people in the country on how hard-working makes one great and eventually rewarding at the end.

Haile Gebreselassie is a hero for many generations to come.

[mitmitaye]

expect Oromos to rule for the next 5 years, in my view they shouldn't rule for even 2 years (1 year is already over now) IF they don't make it better. [media]Replacing those in power to just be in power is not my conviction, but it seems that is of yours[/media].

Agree! If they don't make it better they should leave.. I do not 'expect' them to rule for five years. I simply stated the fact that they will not last five years if they continue this road.. 'ye Oromo mengist' mantra

Replacing those in power to just be in power is not my conviction, but it seems that is of yours.

Neither mine!

Anyway, what make you think I stand for such puppet system? Isn't it why we are demanding fairness from the new leadership? And voicing our concern? Which you are trying to silence? You are contradicting yourself here.

BTW, your thread, titled "ኦሮሞ አገር ይገነባል፣ አማረ ውሬ ይሰንቃል" we heard that from woyane too. Deja Vu

The first thing you should have denounced for your own credibility would have been distancing yourself from the moral debacle some people in the name of Amhara activism brought on themselves.

Why would I denounce people and activists for standing up against a government who is playing politics as usual? Thier fight is peaceful and legal! Unlike jawar and his buchilas who is threatening Ethiopians with Mecha? And claiming everything kegna kegna.. Did you denounce that? Did you denounce the killings of other Ethiopians in oromiya kilil.. do you really think fanatic oromos are preaching justice for all?

We'll challenge this government if it's not living up to its promise- treating Ethiopians equally as the leader of the country

I cited some instances where the so called Oromo activists are trying to contribute towards the betterment of the country, while those of their counterparts from the Amhara side are tirelessily repeating again and again about their "Bere Wolede" trikit, you seem to be unsettled about it if someone tells you about it. But why?

Please tell us about what's this 'berie wolede.. tirikit' coming from Amara activists before demanding me to denounce.

Anyway, it's easy to brush the truth with such ignorant statement but it'll not change the fact that the 'berie wolede..' teret teret been actually coming from OLF , TPLF and their CHifras at the expense of Amara, and the rest of Ethiopians. We have every right to put the facts straight!!

Is this teret teret

Becarful! Ayit Motuan sitsha sitabeza eruCHa.. endayhone.. We have tolerated the lies far too long..

Asa gorguari zendo yawetal...

[Ethoash]

DDT.

1. If i am exporter of oilseed put pay less tax then the importer of edible oil who should be rewarded

2. if i am edible oil processes and pay less tax then the oilseed exporter who should be rewarded

let me repeat it

3. if i am exporter of raw orange to Arab country.. and pay less tax then the importer of orange juice from Arab country who should be rewarded..

or the guy who took the raw orange and make orange juice locally even so he pay much less tax...

i think this award must be divided in 3 place

first for exporter
second for importer
third local food processes and manufacturer

also tax should be tie with personal gain for company they should get bankruptcy protection... for individual retirement benefit according to what they pay in tax ... in way u get back what u pay for .. then u dont mind paying tax..

[DefendTheTruth]

expect Oromos to rule for the next 5 years, in my view they shouldn't rule for even 2 years (1 year is already over now) IF they don't make it better. [media]Replacing those in power to just be in power is not my conviction, but it seems that is of yours[/media].

Agree! If they don't make it better they should leave.. I do not 'expect' them to rule for five years. I simply stated the fact that they will not last five years if they continue this road.. 'ye Oromo mengist' mantra

Replacing those in power to just be in power is not my conviction, but it seems that is of yours.

Neither mine!

Anyway, what make you think I stand for such puppet system? Isn't it why we are demanding fairness from the new leadership? And voicing our concern? Which you are trying to silence? You are contradicting yourself here.

BTW, your thread, titled "ኦሮሞ አገር ይገነባል፣ አማረ ውሬ ይሰንቃል" we heard that from woyane too. Deja Vu

The first thing you should have denounced for your own credibility would have been distancing yourself from the moral debacle some people in the name of Amhara activism brought on themselves.

Why would I denounce people and activists for standing up against a government who is playing politics as usual? Thier fight is peaceful and legal! Unlike jawar and his buchilas who is threatening Ethiopians with Mecha? And claiming everything kegna kegna.. Did you denounce that? Did you denounce the killings of other Ethiopians in oromiya kilil.. do you really think fanatic oromos are preaching justice for all?

We'll challenge this government if it's not living up to its promise- treating Ethiopians equally as the leader of the country

I cited some instances where the so called Oromo activists are trying to contribute towards the betterment of the country, while those of their counterparts from the Amhara side are tirelessily repeating again and again about their "Bere Wolede" trikit, you seem to be unsettled about it if someone tells you about it. But why?

Please tell us about what's this 'berie wolede.. tirikit' coming from Amara activists before demanding me to denounce.

Anyway, it's easy to brush the truth with such ignorant statement but it'll not change the fact that the 'berie wolede..' teret teret been actually coming from OLF , TPLF and their CHifras at the expense of Amara, and the rest of Ethiopians. We have every right to put the facts straight!!

Is this teret teret

Becarful! Ayit Motuan sitsha sitabeza eruCHa.. endayhone.. We have tolerated the lies far too long..

Asa gorguari zendo yawetal...

inen peaceful na legal yergagn.

Everybody get's up and do what ever that body deemed right and come back and claim about "peaceful and legal" activity. That is what I called "ye moral diQet".

Admit the truth and truth will let you free, is my maxim.

You labelled your accusation against the current government about "playing politics as usual" and tried to substantiate your accusation with a video which seems to narrate about centuries old issues (I didn't watch it), it was recycled by a certain lumpen in here who is known at posting all things that the individual considers helped him advance his desparate cause that has never seen any progress over the years, while the guy getting more and more desparate every passing day, in my view.

Before I tell you about my stand against Oromo extremists, could you please tell me any instance where I condoned an act of extremism?

Or is it your logic to assume, if someone is Oromo, then he/she is also an extremist?

Bere wolede was not my own creation, but a high ranking official has labelled against your "peaceful and legal" activists, you have to live with it.

[mitmitaye]

Defend opdo?,

The video was posted to educate you with a bit of your history.. perhaps you should listen to it before you jump to echoing 'a high ranking official.. bere wolede tirikit'

We don't buy some LFs propoganda berie welede teret teret. Our history is recorded by Ethiopians, foreign historians, travelers and eye witnesses.. Which we are digging now! Thanks for the fanatics that brought our attention to it.

We have 'opened the Pandora box'. There is no turning back! We are exposing your 'bere welede tirikit'..