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Post by sarcasm » 17 Nov 2023, 20:07

DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 13:50
I wounder if you really think Ermias is a serious politician and what he is saying could be taken with some level of seriousness?

Have you a trust in what Ermias is saying?

In the whole of my observation about the guy I could hardly find anything that he said could be of a value, perhaps except when he finally decided to part his way with the moron360.
Hi Defend,

I wrote you a long reply yesterday but when the cloudflare did its check, the whole draft disappeared. I will try to summarize it today. Ermias is one of the most knowledgeable politicians in the አሃዳዊ / fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት camp. His arguments are usually coherent and logical unlike most of the አሃዳዊ / fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት politicians who are very emotional and appeal to their listeners emotions / heart only. They don't want to engage their listeners brain. I don't do emotions. I believe in logic and reason.

But, just like most fake ethiopiasists, he would risk destroying Ethiopia for a mere 10% chance of reinstating unitary government system. I remember he was one of the ardent campaigner of military solutions pushing for a war with Tigray when people like Minalachew were trying to moderate things and avoid military solution. But when the war started, he immediately started acting as if he was pushing for peaceful solution.

I believe people can change if they choose to do so. Hence , I am happy to give him benefit of a doubt when he said he is a changed man.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 18 Nov 2023, 17:42

sarcasm wrote:
17 Nov 2023, 20:07
DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Nov 2023, 13:50
I wounder if you really think Ermias is a serious politician and what he is saying could be taken with some level of seriousness?

Have you a trust in what Ermias is saying?

In the whole of my observation about the guy I could hardly find anything that he said could be of a value, perhaps except when he finally decided to part his way with the moron360.
Hi Defend,

I wrote you a long reply yesterday but when the cloudflare did its check, the whole draft disappeared. I will try to summarize it today. Ermias is one of the most knowledgeable politicians in the አሃዳዊ / fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት camp. His arguments are usually coherent and logical unlike most of the አሃዳዊ / fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት politicians who are very emotional and appeal to their listeners emotions / heart only. They don't want to engage their listeners brain. I don't do emotions. I believe in logic and reason.

But, just like most fake ethiopiasists, he would risk destroying Ethiopia for a mere 10% chance of reinstating unitary government system. I remember he was one of the ardent campaigner of military solutions pushing for a war with Tigray when people like Minalachew were trying to moderate things and avoid military solution. But when the war started, he immediately started acting as if he was pushing for peaceful solution.

I believe people can change if they choose to do so. Hence , I am happy to give him benefit of a doubt when he said he is a changed man.
Hi sarcasm,

In my view to be Ethiopianist is not a problem, if it is meant what it claims.

There is a difference between being an Ethiopianist and wishing to dominate the rest in the name of Ethiopianist. The latter is not only a problem but also a crime, in my view.

There are people who are stuck in the past, over 100 years or so going back, at least. These are prisoners of time. The likes of Iskinder Nega in Ethiopian politics is trying to roll-back all the gains that have been achieved in its totality over the last many decades. Nothing is tolerable with people like him. Ermias was also clapping his hands for Iskinder for a while, in which case he is simply a perfect opportunist or another prisoner of time. A person who is a prisoner of time can never be a knowledgeable in my view. He also lacks a modest level of human dignity, he is someone who has publicly lied, for whatever reason, and then also never apologized after being exposed. He is in my view also a perfect superficial, lacks any deep understanding of what he blabbers on the media.

What he has is some sort of connections in the network of his erstwhile colleagues in the party structure and through that he used to sniff internal information of the party and use it for the public show of his youtube media, to collect his YouTube coins. That has also gone by now, in my view. The guy has misplayed his own credibility and now no one takes him that serious.

He associated himself with Iskinder Nega and the latter is an associate of the following scene.

If Ermias was knowledgeable then he has got a lot to explain himself. I don't think he is capable of doing that.


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Post by Abere » 18 Nov 2023, 21:00


<ይቻላል> Yes, we can! የሚለውን መሪ ቃል ገሀድ በማድረግ ላይ ያለ ቢኖር ፋኖ ነው። በአፍሪካ ተወዳዳሪ የሌለኝ ነኝ እያለ በሜዳ ላይ የሚፎከሰውን የብርሃኑ ጁላ ጦር በየሜዳው ላይ እያንጠባጠበው የሚገኘው አዲስ አበባ በጉጉት እየጠበቀችው ያለ እውነተኛ ሰራዊት ፋኖ ነው። በርካታ አገራት ስለ ፋኖ ወታደራዊ ስነ-ምግባር እና ጥበብ አድናቆታቸን እየገለጹለት ያለ - የኢትዮጵያ መከላከያ ሰራዊት ፋኖ ነው። ፋኖ ወያኔን በመደምሰስ ኢትዮጵያን ከመፍረስ ያዳነ እውነተኛ መከላከያ ሰራዊት። ፋኖ ኦሮሙማን ትጥቁን በማስፈታት ህግ እያስከበረ ያለ የሰላም ዘብ።

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Post by sarcasm » 19 Nov 2023, 11:32

DefendTheTruth wrote:
18 Nov 2023, 17:42

Hi sarcasm,

In my view to be Ethiopianist is not a problem, if it is meant what it claims.

There is a difference between being an Ethiopianist and wishing to dominate the rest in the name of Ethiopianist. The latter is not only a problem but also a crime, in my view.

There are people who are stuck in the past, over 100 years or so going back, at least. These are prisoners of time. The likes of Iskinder Nega in Ethiopian politics is trying to roll-back all the gains that have been achieved in its totality over the last many decades. Nothing is tolerable with people like him. Ermias was also clapping his hands for Iskinder for a while, in which case he is simply a perfect opportunist or another prisoner of time. A person who is a prisoner of time can never be a knowledgeable in my view. He also lacks a modest level of human dignity, he is someone who has publicly lied, for whatever reason, and then also never apologized after being exposed. He is in my view also a perfect superficial, lacks any deep understanding of what he blabbers on the media.

What he has is some sort of connections in the network of his erstwhile colleagues in the party structure and through that he used to sniff internal information of the party and use it for the public show of his youtube media, to collect his YouTube coins. That has also gone by now, in my view. The guy has misplayed his own credibility and now no one takes him that serious.

He associated himself with Iskinder Nega and the latter is an associate of the following scene.

If Ermias was knowledgeable then he has got a lot to explain himself. I don't think he is capable of doing that.
Hi Defend,

I agree with you. Being ethiopianist is actually a great thing if they were to become real ethiopianist in its real sense. But 99% of those who claim to be ethiopianists are not real ethiopianists. They are using the ethiopianist mask to cover their real agenda. The majority of them are የኢትዮጵያዊነት ጭምብል ያጠለቁ የኣማራ ብሔርተኞች or amharinized cosmopolitans. That is why I call them fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት.

I understand your frustration with Ermias. Anyone can become knowledgeable about a subject by reading, researching, and memorizing facts. And somebody who is knowledgeable isn't necessarily the person who knows the most relevant solution to a complex problem. for example, Horus is very knowledgeable in many areas. But he is consumed by "unitary system at any cost" agenda and he has been pushing an agenda of never ending conflicts and wars in the past 4 years. The main difference between knowledge and wisdom is that wisdom involves a healthy dose of perspective and the ability to make sound judgments about a subject while knowledge is simply knowing.

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Post by Abere » 19 Nov 2023, 21:06

--- You are mischaracterizing Horus as if he were gave military order to slaughter North Command ENDF members in their deep sleep. Your Ember-Tegedalay Woyane relatives and your likes started off it and for committing heinous crime such as against the Mai-Kadra Amhara Woyane had to pay heavy price. And in deed they paid that price in many folds. TPLF is the Hamas of Tigray and Amhara Fano dismantled and destroyed terrorist TPLF rats "tdf'' :lol: There is no free pass and free lunch. Any citizen that watched and heard the cruelty of TPLF supported the effort to wipe out TPLF, it was not just Horus only.
---- I am just wondering if you are an Ethiopian, to begin with. You relative Woyane unashamedly claimed they are Sudanese. The ultimate dream of Tiger-woyanes was to be an independent country of Abay Tigray Republic. Why do you think while TPLF controlled every thing and ruled Ethiopia remained as Tigray People Liberation Front? Because Woaynes truly believed Tigres are not Ethiopians, they were just looting as much as they can before they break away. That was proved when 85% of ENDF asset was in Tigray. You yourself is fake Ethiopian, just like Abiy Ahmed who was faking by swearing in the sacred name of Ethiopia. TPLF and OLF will never ever be Ethiopian. But Ethiopia is outliving them - one fallen down(TPLF), another one is crumbling fast.
sarcasm wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 11:32
for example, Horus is very knowledgeable in many areas. But he is consumed by "unitary system at any cost" agenda and he has been pushing an agenda of never ending conflicts and wars in the past 4 years. The main difference between knowledge and wisdom is that wisdom involves a healthy dose of perspective and the ability to make sound judgments about a subject while knowledge is simply knowing.

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Post by Horus » 19 Nov 2023, 22:19

sarcasm,
I am not going to give value to your sophistry, verbiage and demagoguery - you trying to use bombastic words like wisdom, knowledge, perspective, etc without having a clue about their proper meaning and accurate usage. Do you really know what knowing is? Do you really know the precise difference between knowledge and wisdom? Even better do you know what perspective means? You don't!!! How can I be a person who insists on 'unitary system at any cost' and be lacking in perspective ? !!! Duhhh!

Here is a brief lesson: perspective means a point of view. A person that believes in unity has perspective, that is his perspective. An Ethiopianist has perspective, that is his perspective. You are clueless because you yourself lack a perspective - you are neither an Ethiopian nor some other identity!!! No, I do have a solid world view and perspective on what I consider as valued and significant. Ethiopia is very significant to me.

As for the distinction between knowledge and wisdom in relation to good decision and error of judgment, I will let Abere teach you about it. You have been fighting for 50 years to dismantle the Ethiopian nation - each and every time proving yourself a fool and an idiot. So who is wise and who is a fool? Who makes a correct judgment and who is suffering from serial follies? Where are your Tigrean folks after 50 years of your " great knowledge and sound judgment"?

So, let me tell you about your wrong perspective, lack accurate knowledge and terrible judgement: your anti-Ethiopian and anti-Amara perspective is your permanent source of failure and demise. Remember, one needs to be knowledgeable in order to become wise. You have neither.
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Post by DefendTheTruth » 20 Nov 2023, 05:09

Horus wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 22:19
sarcasm,
I am not going to give value to your sophistry, verbiage and demagoguery - you trying to use bombastic words like wisdom, knowledge, perspective, etc without having a clue about their proper meaning and accurate usage. Do you really know what knowing is? Do you really know the precise difference between knowledge and wisdom? Even better do you know what perspective means? You don't!!! How can I be a person who insists on 'unitary system at any cost' and be lacking in perspective ? !!! Duhhh!

Here is a brief lesson: perspective means a point of view. A person that believes in unity has perspective, that is his perspective. An Ethiopianist has perspective, that is his perspective. You are clueless because you yourself lack a perspective - you are neither an Ethiopian nor some other identity!!! No, I do have a solid world view and perspective on what I consider as valued and significant. Ethiopia is very significant to me.

As for the distinction between knowledge and wisdom in relation to good decision and error of judgement, I will let Abere teach you about it. You have been fighting for 50 years to dismantle the Ethiopian nation - each and every time proving yourself a fool and an idiot. So who is wise and who is a fool? Who makes a correct judgement and who is suffering from serial follies? Where are your Tigrean folks after 50 years of your " great knowledge and sound judgement"?

So, let me tell you about your wrong perspective, lack accurate knowledge and terrible judgement: your anti-Ethiopian and anti-Amara perspective is your permanent source of failure and demise. Remember, one needs to be knowledgeable in order to become wise. You have neither.
Horse,

don't worry, you have neither knowledge nor wisdom. You are a certain superficial creature trying to act more than you are worth in reality.

If you knew about anti-somebody is "a source of failure and demise" then what about your anti-Oromo, anti-Tigre, anti-Gumuz and many more?

Diabolical!

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Post by sarcasm » 20 Nov 2023, 07:50

Hi Horus,

It seems you missed the key element of my message about perspectives - a healthy dose of perspective. Hitler had a perspective, but was it healthy? No. Is "unitary system at any cost" a healthy perspective? No.

With your knowledge, you could have formulated a middle ground position where both opposing ideologies could co-exist. That is what wisdom is about. Choosing to engage in zero sum game to get unitary system at any cost does not require wisdom. It is not too late. With your knowledge, you can still formulate a position where both camps can compromise and avoid blood-shade. It is not like a unitary system can be achieved anyway.

Horus wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 22:19
sarcasm,
I am not going to give value to your sophistry, verbiage and demagoguery - you trying to use bombastic words like wisdom, knowledge, perspective, etc without having a clue about their proper meaning and accurate usage. Do you really know what knowing is? Do you really know the precise difference between knowledge and wisdom? Even better do you know what perspective means? You don't!!! How can I be a person who insists on 'unitary system at any cost' and be lacking in perspective ? !!! Duhhh!

Here is a brief lesson: perspective means a point of view. A person that believes in unity has perspective, that is his perspective. An Ethiopianist has perspective, that is his perspective. You are clueless because you yourself lack a perspective - you are neither an Ethiopian nor some other identity!!! No, I do have a solid world view and perspective on what I consider as valued and significant. Ethiopia is very significant to me.
sarcasm wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 11:32

Hi Defend,

I agree with you. Being ethiopianist is actually a great thing if they were to become real ethiopianist in its real sense. But 99% of those who claim to be ethiopianists are not real ethiopianists. They are using the ethiopianist mask to cover their real agenda. The majority of them are የኢትዮጵያዊነት ጭምብል ያጠለቁ የኣማራ ብሔርተኞች or amharinized cosmopolitans. That is why I call them fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት.

I understand your frustration with Ermias. Anyone can become knowledgeable about a subject by reading, researching, and memorizing facts. And somebody who is knowledgeable isn't necessarily the person who knows the most relevant solution to a complex problem. for example, Horus is very knowledgeable in many areas. But he is consumed by "unitary system at any cost" agenda and he has been pushing an agenda of never ending conflicts and wars in the past 4 years. The main difference between knowledge and wisdom is that wisdom involves a healthy dose of perspective and the ability to make sound judgments about a subject while knowledge is simply knowing.

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Post by Horus » 20 Nov 2023, 14:24

sarcasm wrote:
20 Nov 2023, 07:50
Hi Horus,

It seems you missed the key element of my message about perspectives - a healthy dose of perspective. Hitler had a perspective, but was it healthy? No. Is "unitary system at any cost" a healthy perspective? No.

With your knowledge, you could have formulated a middle ground position where both opposing ideologies could co-exist. That is what wisdom is about. Choosing to engage in zero sum game to get unitary system at any cost does not require wisdom. It is not too late. With your knowledge, you can still formulate a position where both camps can compromise and avoid blood-shade. It is not like a unitary system can be achieved anyway.

Horus wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 22:19
sarcasm,
I am not going to give value to your sophistry, verbiage and demagoguery - you trying to use bombastic words like wisdom, knowledge, perspective, etc without having a clue about their proper meaning and accurate usage. Do you really know what knowing is? Do you really know the precise difference between knowledge and wisdom? Even better do you know what perspective means? You don't!!! How can I be a person who insists on 'unitary system at any cost' and be lacking in perspective ? !!! Duhhh!

Here is a brief lesson: perspective means a point of view. A person that believes in unity has perspective, that is his perspective. An Ethiopianist has perspective, that is his perspective. You are clueless because you yourself lack a perspective - you are neither an Ethiopian nor some other identity!!! No, I do have a solid world view and perspective on what I consider as valued and significant. Ethiopia is very significant to me.
sarcasm wrote:
19 Nov 2023, 11:32

Hi Defend,

I agree with you. Being ethiopianist is actually a great thing if they were to become real ethiopianist in its real sense. But 99% of those who claim to be ethiopianists are not real ethiopianists. They are using the ethiopianist mask to cover their real agenda. The majority of them are የኢትዮጵያዊነት ጭምብል ያጠለቁ የኣማራ ብሔርተኞች or amharinized cosmopolitans. That is why I call them fake ኢትዮፕያኒስት.

I understand your frustration with Ermias. Anyone can become knowledgeable about a subject by reading, researching, and memorizing facts. And somebody who is knowledgeable isn't necessarily the person who knows the most relevant solution to a complex problem. for example, Horus is very knowledgeable in many areas. But he is consumed by "unitary system at any cost" agenda and he has been pushing an agenda of never ending conflicts and wars in the past 4 years. The main difference between knowledge and wisdom is that wisdom involves a healthy dose of perspective and the ability to make sound judgments about a subject while knowledge is simply knowing.
I, Horus don't like to mince words.The sickest perspective in the history of politics is that which tries to organize a political community on the principle of ethnicity. Ethnicity as the organizing unit of a modern political order is not only the sickest it is also the stupidest perspective in the history of man. This is my last comment to you.

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Post by sarcasm » 20 Nov 2023, 20:28

Horus wrote:
20 Nov 2023, 14:24

I, Horus don't like to mince words.The sickest perspective in the history of politics is that which tries to organize a political community on the principle of ethnicity. Ethnicity as the organizing unit of a modern political order is not only the sickest it is also the stupidest perspective in the history of man. This is my last comment to you.
This reply is not an attempt to continue to engage Horus. But the readers who have been following the discussion deserve some parting comments. Horus is saying, "The sickest perspective in the history of politics is that which tries to organize a political community on the principle of ethnicity." . I want to bring the experience of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom is another country asymmetrically decentralized on ethnic groups. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are ethnic groups locally known as "Nations ብሔሮች". Collectively, they make up the UK. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own parliaments in charge of health, education and other budgets. The Scottish Government is called Riaghaltas na h-Alba, pronounced [ˈrˠiə. əl̪ˠt̪əs nə ˈhal̪ˠapə]). The welsh Parliament is called Senedd Cymru.

Culturally, the ethnic groups ብሔሮች in UK are encouraged to maintain their ethnic heritages and culture. For example, the 4 nations compete independently in European and World football, rugby, athletics and other sports. The UK has four separate football governing bodies, one for each home nation. England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales competed on Fifa World Cup Qatar qualifiers and 3 teams qualified in the World Cup.

The British Pound Sterling £ also has different images in circulation in England, Scotland and Norther Ireland to reflect their varied history and culture.

When Ethiopia killed 60 of its royal families centered officials of Atsie Hiale Sellasie I government, the United Kingdom formulate a modern formula for the Royal Family to engage in making the country a capital of the world historic museum. Now what sort of mind and ideology would call the United Kingdom, one of the oldest democracies of the world, the country of Magna Carta some 800 years ag, "The sickest perspective in the history of politics" for organizing a political community on the principle of ethnicity? It is evident the "unitary system at any cost" brigade cannot contribute nothing positive to Ethiopian politics apart from never-ending wars. It has lost the debate in academic auditoriums, town hall discussions and military warfare theaters.

Fano and Amhara politicians must liberate themselves from the ideologies and influence of this toxic political class. ከአንድነት / አሃዳዊው / ኢትዮፕያኒስት ፖለቲከኞች ነጻ የወጣ የአማራ ሃይል የሚቀጥለው ስራ፤ የአማራ ጥያቄ ምን እንደሆነ እንደገና re-frame ማደረግ አለበት። አሁን የሚነገረው የአማራ ጥያቄ በኢትዮፕያኒስቱ ሃይል የተጻፈና ኢትዮፕያኒስት አጀንዳ እዲያስፈጽም ተብሎ ከአሃዳዊው ሃይል ጥያቄዎች intertwined የሆነና ሆን ተብሎ impossible to achieve ኢንዲሆን የረቀቀ ነው።


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Post by Horus » 25 Nov 2023, 21:46

ይህ ትንቢቴ ገና 3 ወር ከሳምንቱ ነው በነዚህ 14 ሳምንታት የትንቢቱ ጭብቶች አንድ ባንድ እየተፈጸሙ ነው ። የኢትዮጵያ መከላከያ የአማራን መውጋት ተቁሙ ከቆመለት ተልኮ አውርዶ ዛሬ ላይ መላ ኢትዮጵያ ይህ ሰራዊት የወረሙማ ዘበኛ እንጂ የኢትዮጵያን ሕዝብ (አማራን ጨምሮ) የሚከላከል እንዳልሆነ አለም እየተቀበለው ነው ። የተቋሙ መፍረስ ማለት ያ ነው ። ተቋሙ የኦሮም መንግስት ዘበኛ መሆኑን ፍንትው ብሎ ታይቷል ።

የኦርሞ ጦር በመሆኑም የኦሮም ነጻ አውጭ ላይ አይዘምትም፣ አማራ ላይ እንጂ ። ምናልባት ፋኖ ወደ አዲስ አበባ ሲጠጋ ያቢይ መከላከያና ሸኔ አብረው ፋኖን ቢወጉ ማንም አይደነቅም ። ይህም ማለት አቢይ አህመድ በምን መልክ ከ4 ኪሎ እንደ ሚጸዳ ብዙ አይነት ስዕሎች ስላሉ ።

አሁን አንድ ክሪቲካል መታጠፊያ ብዙም ሳይርቅ የፈጠራል። ከዚያ በኋላ በአማራ የተዘራው ያቢይ ዘበኛ እንደ በረዶ ይቀልጣል ። ያኔ ነው ፋኖ ይህን ያገር ሰራዊት ባዲስ መልክ ማደራጀት የሚጀምረው ። በቅርብ ያቢይ ጄኒራሎች ወይ ባማራ መሸነፋችውን ተቀብለው ለቀው ይወጣሉ ። ያ ካልሆነ እርስ በርስ መባላት ይጀምራሉ።

አንድ ሰው የኢትዮጵያን ሁኔታ እንዳሻው ሊከትፈውና ሊሸነሽነው ይችላል ፤ ሃቁ ይህ ነው ። ፋኖ ፖለቲካችንን ሙሉ በሙሉ በሚባል ደረጃ ለውጦታል ። አሁን ብዙ ነገሮች ተራ በተራ ሲለዋወጡ አትደነቁ ። የሶሳዪቲ ሳይንስ ማለት ያ ነው

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Post by Right » 26 Nov 2023, 00:29

በቅርብ ያቢይ ጄኒራሎች ወይ ባማራ መሸነፋችውን ተቀብለው ለቀው ይወጣሉ ። ያ ካልሆነ እርስ በርስ መባላት ይጀምራሉ።
We are following closely. So far the predictions are on the right track.
The piece of information that is out there is that General Abebaw Tadesse is extremely nervous, isolated and feels like he is on borrowed time. His leaked recorded message exposed him that he is not a trusted ally of the dictator.
Abebaw has an ally of high ranking officers. We will soon witness some kind of chaotic killings among the members of ENDF high command. The dictator is waiting for the right time to act. It is natural in the orbit of dictatorial regimes.
And the rest of the predictions including “after the Amharas uprisings Ethiopia will never be the same again” is consistent.

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Post by Horus » 26 Nov 2023, 01:16

Right wrote:
26 Nov 2023, 00:29
በቅርብ ያቢይ ጄኒራሎች ወይ ባማራ መሸነፋችውን ተቀብለው ለቀው ይወጣሉ ። ያ ካልሆነ እርስ በርስ መባላት ይጀምራሉ።
We are following closely. So far the predictions are on the right track.
The piece of information that is out there is that General Abebaw Tadesse is extremely nervous, isolated and feels like he is on borrowed time. His leaked recorded message exposed him that he is not a trusted ally of the dictator.
Abebaw has an ally of high ranking officers. We will soon witness some kind of chaotic killings among the members of ENDF high command. The dictator is waiting for the right time to act. It is natural in the orbit of dictatorial regimes.
And the rest of the predictions including “after the Amharas uprisings Ethiopia will never be the same again” is consistent.
"We will soon witness some kind of chaotic killings among the members of ENDF high command. The dictator is waiting for the right time to act"

Two critical reasons why this is possible - political culture & the corporate theory of military behavior.

Political culture means the way Ethiopian heads of state resolve conflicts between themselves and their generals. That is killing them.

Corporatism means the following. The military is an organization, it sustains the livelihood of 1000s & 100s of 1000s of officers and soldiers.

Given all things being equal, the military never wants or allows its life supporting corporation to be dismantled thereby rendering military personnel jobless.

So, when political leaders of the regime act in such a way that it threatens the very existence of the military as an organization, the officer class acts to remove the political leaders. That is called a coup.

So, as the Fano threat on the regime increases the likelihood of both a military coup against Abiy and Abiy's assassination of opposition generals increases. Which event will happen first is a matter of intelligence and decisiveness !! ለእራት ያሰቡንን ለቁርስ አደረናቸው is our political culture in this regard. በጉጉት እየጠበቅን ነው
:lol: :lol:

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Post by Horus » 03 Dec 2023, 16:21

This is what I said on November 26 exactly a week ago!!
"So, as the Fano threat on the regime increases the likelihood of both a military coup against Abiy and Abiy's assassination of opposition generals increases. Which event will happen first is a matter of intelligence and decisiveness !! ለእራት ያሰቡንን ለቁርስ አደረናቸው is our political culture in this regard. በጉጉት እየጠበቅን ነው "

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Dec 2023, 17:37

Horus wrote:
03 Dec 2023, 16:21
This is what I said on November 26 exactly a week ago!!
"So, as the Fano threat on the regime increases the likelihood of both a military coup against Abiy and Abiy's assassination of opposition generals increases. Which event will happen first is a matter of intelligence and decisiveness !! ለእራት ያሰቡንን ለቁርስ አደረናቸው is our political culture in this regard. በጉጉት እየጠበቅን ነው "
Moron!

You have to own your debilitating defeat! It is over for you!


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Post by Horus » 03 Dec 2023, 21:16

DefendTheTruth wrote:
03 Dec 2023, 17:37
Horus wrote:
03 Dec 2023, 16:21
This is what I said on November 26 exactly a week ago!!
"So, as the Fano threat on the regime increases the likelihood of both a military coup against Abiy and Abiy's assassination of opposition generals increases. Which event will happen first is a matter of intelligence and decisiveness !! ለእራት ያሰቡንን ለቁርስ አደረናቸው is our political culture in this regard. በጉጉት እየጠበቅን ነው "
Moron!

You have to own your debilitating defeat! It is over for you!

DDT = Axumezana =sun :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Abere » 06 Dec 2023, 20:54


የፈሩት ይደርሳል፥ የጠሉት ይወርሳል እንድሉ ፋኖ ጀውሳው አድሱ የኢትዮጵያ መከላከያ ሰራዊት ሁኗል። :mrgreen:

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Post by Horus » 07 Dec 2023, 00:35

አበረ፣
አሁን እየተከሰተ ባለው የፋኖና ወረሙማ ጦርነት መሰረት ያቢይ ሰራዊት ጄኔራሎች ሁለት ትላልቅ አደጋ ከፊታቸው ተደቅኗል ፤ (1) በአቢይ መገደል ወይም መሻር እና (2) የድህረ አቢይ ሰራዊት አባል መሆን ወይም አለመሆን ።

ይህን በተመለከተ በኖቬምበር 26 የሚከተለውን ብዬ ነበር ፤ ትንሽ ላብራራው ።

“Two critical reasons why this is possible - political culture & the corporate theory of military behavior.

Political culture means the way Ethiopian heads of state resolve conflicts between themselves and their generals. That is killing them.

Corporatism means the following. The military is an organization, it sustains the livelihood of 1000s & 100s of 1000s of officers and soldiers.

Given all things being equal, the military never wants or allows its life supporting corporation to be dismantled thereby rendering military personnel jobless.

So, when political leaders of the regime act in such a way that it threatens the very existence of the military as an organization, the officer class acts to remove the political leaders. That is called a coup.

So, as the Fano threat on the regime increases the likelihood of both a military coup against Abiy and Abiy's assassination of opposition generals increases. Which event will happen first is a matter of intelligence and decisiveness !! ለእራት ያሰቡንን ለቁርስ አደረግናቸው is our political culture in this regard. “

የሚሆነው ይህ ስለሆነ እነዚህ ጄኔራሎች ዛሬ ላይ ምን እያሰቡ ነው? ምን እያሰሉ ነው ብለን መጠየቅ አለብን ።

የምድር ላይ ጦርነት በአማራ ስላልተቻለ ዋናው ዘዴ ድሮን ስለሆነ እነዚህ ጄኔራሎች አማራ ውስጥ ቀጣይ ስራና ሚሽን አይኖራቸውም። ይህ ሽንፈት ወደ መራራ ግምገማና ሹም ሽር ብሎም ምሬትና መቃቃር ብሎ ም ለበቀል መፈላለግ ይጀምራሉ ። ካቢይ ጋር ለመሞት የቆረጡትና አቢይ ተሳስቷል የሚሉት ። ይህ ፈጽሞ አይቀሬ ነው ።

ጂልና ጂላጂል የሆኑት ዛሬ ነገር ሸኔ የሸነፋል እያሉ ቀኑ አልቆባቸው ወይ አቢይ ይመታቸዋል፣ ወይ ፋኖ ይመታቸዋል ፣ አለያም ሱዳን ይሸሻሉ ።

አቢይ እንደ ሚገድላቸው ወይም እንደ ሚያስራቸው ወይም እንደ ሚሽራቸው የውል የሚገነዘቡት ከወዲሁ እየወሰኑ ነው ። አማራነት ከልባቸው ጨርሶ ያልጠፋው ፋኖን ኮንታክት እያደረጉ ነው ። ለተወሰ ግዜ የፋኖ ውስጥ አርበኛ ሆነ ከዚያም ወደ ፋኖ ይሄዳሉ ።

አቢይንም ፋኖንም የማይፈጉት መሸሺያና መደበቂያ ዘዴ እያመቻቹ ነው ።

አይ ይህን የወረሙማ አብድ አስወግደን ሰራዊቱም ከመበተን እናድን ፤ ደሞም የማይቀረው የጎሳ እርስ በርስ ጦርነት አናስቀር የሚሉና በሃሳብ የሚተማመኑ የወታደሩ ድጋፍ ያላቸው ኢትዮጵያዊ ጄኔራሎች ለመኖራቸው ምንም ፍንጭ የለም ።

ስለሆነም ስኬታማ ኩዴታ ይኖራል ወይስ አይኖርም የሚለው ዛሬ ላይ ለመገመት ያስቸግራል !

ይህም ሆነ ያ በጄኔራሎቹ አንጎል ውስጥ የሚንሸራሸሩት ስሌቶች እኒህና እኒህ የመሰሉ ናቸው ።
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Re: ትንቢተ ሆረስ፤ ፋኖ የድህረ አቢይ ኢትዮጵያ መከላከያ ሰራዊት ይሆናል!

Post by Horus » 08 Dec 2023, 23:55

ይህን የምስራቅ ፋኖ መግለጫ ልብ ብላችህ ተከታተል !


Horus
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Re: ትንቢተ ሆረስ፤ ፋኖ የድህረ አቢይ ኢትዮጵያ መከላከያ ሰራዊት ይሆናል!

Post by Horus » 10 Dec 2023, 16:52

የፋኖ ብሄራዊ ሰራዊት መሆን እውን እየሆነ ሲመጣ ይህ የትንቢቴ ሃረግ ብዙ ብዙ ሰው እየጎበኘው ነው ! ምንግዜም ቢሆን የታሪክ ቀስት (the trajectory of history) ወዴት እንደ ቀሰተ ማስተዋል የመጀምሪያው ጥረታችን ምሆን አለበት ። ፋኖ እራሱ እጅግ ግዙፍ አደናቃፊ ስህተት እስካልሰራ ድረስ በታሪክ ቀስት እየጋለበ መላ ኢትዮጵያን ይሞላል ! ኢትዮጵያ የምትፈልገው ታሪካዊ ነገር ስለሆነ!

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