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[Selam/]

Why do I care? I know many think a fragmented Somalia is beneficial to Ethiopia’s national interest but a stable and united Horn of Africa is more beneficial in the long term. And Ethiopia could have access to the Sea one or the other way with smart & impartial foreign policy.

The nationhood of Somaliland has nothing to do with Ethiopia's need for seaport or access to a sea. Somaliland's right to its own country has nothing to do with our opposition to Abiy Ahmed or Oromuma fascism. Our principled stand on this question has to with the deep and true aspiration of the people of Somaliland. With respect to the long term national interest of Ethiopia, the Somaliland nation is a great strategic benefit to Ethiopia in the fractured and conflict ridden Horn of Africa. Support Somaliland's just demand for independent nationhood!

[Abere]

Selam,

I am afraid that you have not taken cognizant of the big picture and the evolution things in the region. What has happened to Ethiopia is happening in the region and beyond. Neither good will or coercion cannot neutralize the bomb planted by European colonials of Italy, France and Britain. So, Somaliland is an independent country as South Sudan and Somalia itself.

Ethiopia's access to the sea is not dependent on Somaliland.

Why do I care? I know many think a fragmented Somalia is beneficial to Ethiopia’s national interest but a stable and united Horn of Africa is more beneficial in the long term. And Ethiopia could have access to the Sea one or the other way with smart & impartial foreign policy.

The nationhood of Somaliland has nothing to do with Ethiopia's need for seaport or access to a sea. Somaliland's right to its own country has nothing to do with our opposition to Abiy Ahmed or Oromuma fascism. Our principled stand on this question has to with the deep and true aspiration of the people of Somaliland. With respect to the long term national interest of Ethiopia, the Somaliland nation is a great strategic benefit to Ethiopia in the fractured and conflict ridden Horn of Africa. Support Somaliland's just demand for independent nationhood!

[Selam/]

The big picture is that Africa is fragmented further. It’s a continent that was heavily damaged by colonialism and that’s why it’s still seeking a retribution for it. And yet it has volunteered to revivify the legacy of colonialism and be bound by it indefinitely. Neo-colonialists are loving the show that’s taking place in the Horn right now & they will gladly provide the tool to chop up the region further into smaller clans.

Selam,

I am afraid that you have not taken cognizant of the big picture and the evolution things in the region. What has happened to Ethiopia is happening in the region and beyond. Neither good will or coercion cannot neutralize the bomb planted by European colonials of Italy, France and Britain. So, Somaliland is an independent country as South Sudan and Somalia itself.

Ethiopia's access to the sea is not dependent on Somaliland.

Why do I care? I know many think a fragmented Somalia is beneficial to Ethiopia’s national interest but a stable and united Horn of Africa is more beneficial in the long term. And Ethiopia could have access to the Sea one or the other way with smart & impartial foreign policy.

The nationhood of Somaliland has nothing to do with Ethiopia's need for seaport or access to a sea. Somaliland's right to its own country has nothing to do with our opposition to Abiy Ahmed or Oromuma fascism. Our principled stand on this question has to with the deep and true aspiration of the people of Somaliland. With respect to the long term national interest of Ethiopia, the Somaliland nation is a great strategic benefit to Ethiopia in the fractured and conflict ridden Horn of Africa. Support Somaliland's just demand for independent nationhood!

[Abere]

As you said it, colonialism is 100% responsible for the non-stop instability and impoverishment. It is the colonial powers that draw their own administrative boundaries, wrote the by law for the United Nations (their own NGO). The colonial rules are treated as Holy Scriptures by Africans but not really by most beyond continent Africa. Ethiopia being never colonized country is the victim of the scam books of colonial "rules, laws" etc. The world as to me is divided between the Colonial ruled world vs. Ethiopia (not part of it). A simple example, Egypt still thinking of her colonial master British Nile water used own written rules. Thus, the question is how can Africans get out of this Bullsh!t colonial scam rules and follow the natural and normal way of governing themselves and use their resource. One can see how broken the rule is when trying to stop Somaliland former British's colony breaking away from Somalia (former Italy colony).

In sum, this whole HoA drama has been about how to trap Ethiopia and that is what it is today.

The big picture is that Africa is fragmented further. It’s a continent that was heavily damaged by colonialism and that’s why it’s still seeking a retribution for it. And yet it has volunteered to revivify the legacy of colonialism and be bound by it indefinitely. Neo-colonialists are loving the show that’s taking place in the Horn right now & they will gladly provide the tool to chop up the region further into smaller clans.

Selam,

I am afraid that you have not taken cognizant of the big picture and the evolution things in the region. What has happened to Ethiopia is happening in the region and beyond. Neither good will or coercion cannot neutralize the bomb planted by European colonials of Italy, France and Britain. So, Somaliland is an independent country as South Sudan and Somalia itself.

Ethiopia's access to the sea is not dependent on Somaliland.

Why do I care? I know many think a fragmented Somalia is beneficial to Ethiopia’s national interest but a stable and united Horn of Africa is more beneficial in the long term. And Ethiopia could have access to the Sea one or the other way with smart & impartial foreign policy.

The nationhood of Somaliland has nothing to do with Ethiopia's need for seaport or access to a sea. Somaliland's right to its own country has nothing to do with our opposition to Abiy Ahmed or Oromuma fascism. Our principled stand on this question has to with the deep and true aspiration of the people of Somaliland. With respect to the long term national interest of Ethiopia, the Somaliland nation is a great strategic benefit to Ethiopia in the fractured and conflict ridden Horn of Africa. Support Somaliland's just demand for independent nationhood!

[Horus]

Why do I care? I know many think a fragmented Somalia is beneficial to Ethiopia’s national interest but a stable and united Horn of Africa is more beneficial in the long term. And Ethiopia could have access to the Sea one or the other way with smart & impartial foreign policy.

The nationhood of Somaliland has nothing to do with Ethiopia's need for seaport or access to a sea. Somaliland's right to its own country has nothing to do with our opposition to Abiy Ahmed or Oromuma fascism. Our principled stand on this question has to with the deep and true aspiration of the people of Somaliland. With respect to the long term national interest of Ethiopia, the Somaliland nation is a great strategic benefit to Ethiopia in the fractured and conflict ridden Horn of Africa. Support Somaliland's just demand for independent nationhood!

Selam,
Consider the following realities:
(1) The point raised by Abere above - that Somaliland was separate country, a British colony and it became independent as separate country. Somalia had no and in fact does not have any historical sovereignty over British Somaliland Somali itself being a separate country, Italian colony.

(2) The Somaliland people had factually determined and actually demonstrated their desire and decision by living as a separate country for 30 more years. The country called Somaliland is a fact, it is not an idea or a proposal.

(3) Somalia can claim sovereignty all it wants but it can not enforce it claim. If it goes to world court, it will lose. if it want to take over by means of arms, then Somaliland has the right to ally with other powers to defend itself.

(4) Bottom line is the recognize and honor the right of Somalilanders to own nationhood.

(5) For all external supporters and antagonists - there is one hard reality all need to swallow, that is there are things one can control and there are things one can't control. For example, you can't control the unity or division of Somalia or HoA. What Ethiopia can and must do is to find ways and means of securing her interest within the existing and emerging nations, structures, alignments and divisions.

(6) As I pointed above, without being bothered with Somalia proper, there are 4 ports Ethiopia can use - Djibouti, Zeila, Lughaya and Berbera.

(7) Finally, the claim that HoA will unite and unity of HoA is better for Ethiopia than divided HoA is mere theoretical speculation unproven by fact. And, speculation can't be used as the foundation of here and now national policy. So, today we must act n the basis of divided HoA.

[Selam/]

Selam,
Consider the following realities:
(1) The point raised by Abere above - that Somaliland was separate country, a British colony and it became independent as separate country. Somalia had no and in fact does not have any historical sovereignty over British Somaliland Somali itself being a separate country, Italian colony.
There was no Somaliland before 1884 just as there was no Eritrea before Italy’s occupation. If you consider British colony a country, then Eritrea had also been an independent country. But again sadly, it’s been the longstanding norm of African nations to maintain their colonial-era borders and allegiance to their former slave masters.


(2) The Somaliland people had factually determined and actually demonstrated their desire and decision by living as a separate country for 30 more years. The country called Somaliland is a fact, it is not an idea or a proposal.
It’s in essence, the same as Article 39 of the 1995 Ethiopian Constitution.

(3) Somalia can claim sovereignty all it wants but it can not enforce it claim. If it goes to world court, it will lose. if it want to take over by means of arms, then Somaliland has the right to ally with other powers to defend itself.
No one knows about that because international laws are vague in this regard. They support both the right to self-determination & also national state’s right to defend its territory. And the outcome of a war could go either way.

(4) Bottom line is the recognize and honor the right of Somalilanders to own nationhood.
The international community did nothing for the last 30 years because they don’t give a hoot about these two destitute nations.


(5) For all external supporters and antagonists - there is one hard reality all need to swallow, that is there are things one can control and there are things one can't control. For example, you can't control the unity or division of Somalia or HoA. What Ethiopia can and must do is to find ways and means of securing her interest within the existing and emerging nations, structures, alignments and divisions.
I don’t think it’s a smart politics to bypass Abdel Fattah Burha and choose Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo or throw former ally, Issayas Afewrki, under the bus & submit to woyane and Brigade N‘Hamedu. This is pattern that emanated primarily from political immaturity & political prostitution.

(6) As I pointed above, without being bothered with Somalia proper, there are 4 ports Ethiopia can use - Djibouti, Zeila, Lughaya and Berbera.

(7) Finally, the claim that HoA will unite and unity of HoA is better for Ethiopia than divided HoA is mere theoretical speculation unproven by fact. And, speculation can't be used as the foundation of here and now national policy. So, today we must act n the basis of divided HoA.
Why not given you have been advocating for the unity of Eritrea with Ethiopia? But regardless, I don’t think we should intentionally make HoA worse by choosing one over the other. And is it not also a mere speculation to expect a successful & sustainable national interest under divided HoA?

[Horus]

Selam,

መጅመሪያ መልካም ገና!
(1) you can't put a word in my mouth. I never implied that Oromuma has has a wise foreign policy. I have stated that our position of the right of Somalilanders must independent of Abiy's moves.

(2) The HoA is divided or fractured based on the interests of its elites and states. You and I have no control over that .

(3) Here is an example. Let's say tomorrow, Fano forms a government at 4kilo. Does it need a port or not? In Ethiopian enemies - Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia & Djibouti refuse that access or make it so expensive for Ethiopia, what would you advise Fano to do?

[Selam/]

መልካም ገና!
Yes, we should have a port but it doesn’t necessarily mean we mess with immediate neighbors. Abiy, the Mad man, is so desperate that he first provoked Eritrea, with which there was a chance for negotiations a few years ago, and now he stuck his nose into Somalia. The guy can’t sustain without hostility & dissidence. It’s always either or: Oromo or Amhara, Tigray or Amhara, Tigray or Eritrea, Gurage or Oromo, Dagalo or Burhan, etc…

Selam,

መጅመሪያ መልካም ገና!
(1) you can't put a word in my mouth. I never implied that Oromuma has has a wise foreign policy. I have stated that our position of the right of Somalilanders must independent of Abiy's moves.

(2) The HoA is divided or fractured based on the interests of its elites and states. You and I have no control over that .

(3) Here is an example. Let's say tomorrow, Fano forms a government at 4kilo. Does it need a port or not? In Ethiopian enemies - Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia & Djibouti refuse that access or make it so expensive for Ethiopia, what would you advise Fano to do?

[Horus]

መልካም ገና!
Yes, we should have a port but it doesn’t necessarily mean we mess with immediate neighbors. Abiy, the Mad man, is so desperate that he first provoked Eritrea, with which there was a chance for negotiations a few years ago, and now he stuck his nose into Somalia. The guy can’t sustain without hostility & dissidence. It’s either the Oromo or Amhara, Tigray or Amhara, Tigray or Eritrea, Gurage or Oromo, Dagalo or Burhan, etc…

Selam,

መጅመሪያ መልካም ገና!
(1) you can't put a word in my mouth. I never implied that Oromuma has has a wise foreign policy. I have stated that our position of the right of Somalilanders must independent of Abiy's moves.

(2) The HoA is divided or fractured based on the interests of its elites and states. You and I have no control over that .

(3) Here is an example. Let's say tomorrow, Fano forms a government at 4kilo. Does it need a port or not? In Ethiopian enemies - Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia & Djibouti refuse that access or make it so expensive for Ethiopia, what would you advise Fano to do?

But, we need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the dirty water. ሁልግዜ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄራዊ ጥቅምና የገዢ መንግስት ጥቅም ጥርት አድርገን መለየት አለብን ። በአቢይ ላይ ያለንን ጥላቻ በመጋለብ ምድረ ተገንጣይ የግብጽ አቃጣሪ ሁላ በኢትዮጵያ ላይ የሚያጎርፉት ስድብ በፍጹም አይመቸኝም ።

[Horus]

መልካም ገና!
Yes, we should have a port but it doesn’t necessarily mean we mess with immediate neighbors. Abiy, the Mad man, is so desperate that he first provoked Eritrea, with which there was a chance for negotiations a few years ago, and now he stuck his nose into Somalia. The guy can’t sustain without hostility & dissidence. It’s either the Oromo or Amhara, Tigray or Amhara, Tigray or Eritrea, Gurage or Oromo, Dagalo or Burhan, etc…

Selam,

መጅመሪያ መልካም ገና!
(1) you can't put a word in my mouth. I never implied that Oromuma has has a wise foreign policy. I have stated that our position of the right of Somalilanders must independent of Abiy's moves.

(2) The HoA is divided or fractured based on the interests of its elites and states. You and I have no control over that .

(3) Here is an example. Let's say tomorrow, Fano forms a government at 4kilo. Does it need a port or not? In Ethiopian enemies - Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia & Djibouti refuse that access or make it so expensive for Ethiopia, what would you advise Fano to do?

But, we need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the dirty water. ሁልግዜ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄራዊ ጥቅምና የገዢ መንግስት ጥቅም ጥርት አድርገን መለየት አለብን ። በአቢይ ላይ ያለንን ጥላቻ በመጋለብ ምድረ ተገንጣይ የግብጽ አቃጣሪ ሁላ በኢትዮጵያ ላይ የሚያጎርፉት ስድብ በፍጹም አይመቸኝም ።

[Fiyameta]

there was no Eritrea before Italy’s occupation. If you consider British colony a country, then Eritrea had also been an independent country. But again sadly, it’s been the longstanding norm of African nations to maintain their colonial-era borders and allegiance to their former slave masters.

Just because you didn't know how to pronounce the name Eritrea, it doesn't mean that the country did not exist. In fact, Eritrea was a country long before Menelik expanded his tiny kingdom of Shoa by incorporating neighboring Southern nations through conquest in the 1880's.

Ironically, the 84-year-old Ethiopia was the seat of the Organization of African Unity (OAU) in 1964, when all member states, including Haile Selassie, pledged themselves to respect the colonial borders existing at independence, which was enshrined in a July 1964 resolution of the OAU.

Here's the mother of all ironies. Haile Selassie, whose country was under Italian colonization for 6 years until the British colonial forces "liberated" the country in 1941, and who was later hired by the US to occupy the nation of Eritrea in 1952, didn't see the irony in signing the OAU agreement in 1964 that invalidates his claim over sovereign nation of Eritrea, a country that, too, was under Italian colonization like Ethiopia, and has the most clearly defined borders in all of Africa.

[Selam/]

ስለየትኞቹ አቃጣሪዎች እንደሆነ የምታወራው ባላውቅም ፣ የግብፅ ስድብ የምትለው መላው የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብን አላማ ያደረገ እንደሆነ እገምታለሁ። ይኸ ደግሞ እኔ ሁልጊዜ ከምለው በምንም አይለይም ፥ በወያኔ እስስቶች ጫጫታ ምክንያት ትግሬን ሁሉ አትሳደቡ፣ በአብይና የኦነግ-ሸኔ ካድሬዎች ጭካኔ የተነሳ ግማሽ የኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ አትሳደቡ፣ ወዘተ።

ሶሻል ሜዲያ ላይ በጥላቻ ያበደ የእናት ጡት ነካሽ አቀረሸ ብዬም ፣ የአብይ አህመድን ያበሸቀጠ የውጭም ይሁን የሀገር ውስጥ ፖለቲካ አልደግፍም። ግን ለመሆኑ እስካሁን ድረስ ምን የሚረባ ብሄራዊ ጥቅምን የሚያስከብር ፖሊሲ ቀርጿል? ስንዴ ከመለመን፤ የጎረቤት ሃገር ጦሮች ዘልቀው ሀገራችን እስኪገቡ ከመፍቀድና ድሮ አስታራቂና አሸማጋይ የነበረችውን ሀገር አዋርዶ በየአፍሪካ ሀገሩ ከሽፍታዎች ጋራ እንድትደራደር ከማድረግ በስተቀር።

መልካም ገና!
Yes, we should have a port but it doesn’t necessarily mean we mess with immediate neighbors. Abiy, the Mad man, is so desperate that he first provoked Eritrea, with which there was a chance for negotiations a few years ago, and now he stuck his nose into Somalia. The guy can’t sustain without hostility & dissidence. It’s either the Oromo or Amhara, Tigray or Amhara, Tigray or Eritrea, Gurage or Oromo, Dagalo or Burhan, etc…

Selam,

መጅመሪያ መልካም ገና!
(1) you can't put a word in my mouth. I never implied that Oromuma has has a wise foreign policy. I have stated that our position of the right of Somalilanders must independent of Abiy's moves.

(2) The HoA is divided or fractured based on the interests of its elites and states. You and I have no control over that .

(3) Here is an example. Let's say tomorrow, Fano forms a government at 4kilo. Does it need a port or not? In Ethiopian enemies - Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia & Djibouti refuse that access or make it so expensive for Ethiopia, what would you advise Fano to do?

But, we need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the dirty water. ሁልግዜ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄራዊ ጥቅምና የገዢ መንግስት ጥቅም ጥርት አድርገን መለየት አለብን ። በአቢይ ላይ ያለንን ጥላቻ በመጋለብ ምድረ ተገንጣይ የግብጽ አቃጣሪ ሁላ በኢትዮጵያ ላይ የሚያጎርፉት ስድብ በፍጹም አይመቸኝም ።

[Horus]

Fiyameta,
Let me ask you one simple question. I am not sure if being a colony of 5 empires for 500 years is a proud history but my one question is why? why is Eritrea still in discussion with Ethiopians after 30 years of liberation and 30 years of independence???? Don't you think that there is something missing??? Why are so many Eritreans in Ethiopia any way????

[Horus]

ስለየትኞቹ አቃጣሪዎች እንደሆነ የምታወራው ባላውቅም ፣ የግብፅ ስድብ የምትለው መላው የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብን አላማ ያደረገ እንደሆነ እገምታለሁ። ይኸ ደግሞ እኔ ሁልጊዜ ከምለው በምንም አይለይም ፥ በወያኔ እስስቶች ጫጫታ ምክንያት ትግሬን ሁሉ አትሳደቡ፣ በአብይና የኦነግ-ሸኔ ካድሬዎች ጭካኔ የተነሳ ግማሽ የኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ አትሳደቡ፣ ወዘተ።

ሶሻል ሜዲያ ላይ በጥላቻ ያበደ የእናት ጡት ነካሽ አቀረሸ ብዬም ፣ የአብይ አህመድን ያበሸቀጠ የውጭም ይሁን የሀገር ውስጥ ፖለቲካ አልደግፍም። ግን ለመሆኑ እስካሁን ድረስ ምን የሚረባ ብሄራዊ ጥቅምን የሚያስከብር ፖሊሲ ቀርጿል? ስንዴ ከመለመን፤ የጎረቤት ሃገር ጦሮች ዘልቀው ሀገራችን እስኪገቡ ከመፍቀድና ድሮ አስታራቂና አሸማጋይ የነበረችውን ሀገር አዋርዶ በየአፍሪካ ሀገሩ ከሽፍታዎች ጋራ እንድትደራደር ከማድረግ በስተቀር።

መልካም ገና!
Yes, we should have a port but it doesn’t necessarily mean we mess with immediate neighbors. Abiy, the Mad man, is so desperate that he first provoked Eritrea, with which there was a chance for negotiations a few years ago, and now he stuck his nose into Somalia. The guy can’t sustain without hostility & dissidence. It’s either the Oromo or Amhara, Tigray or Amhara, Tigray or Eritrea, Gurage or Oromo, Dagalo or Burhan, etc…

Selam,

መጅመሪያ መልካም ገና!
(1) you can't put a word in my mouth. I never implied that Oromuma has has a wise foreign policy. I have stated that our position of the right of Somalilanders must independent of Abiy's moves.

(2) The HoA is divided or fractured based on the interests of its elites and states. You and I have no control over that .

(3) Here is an example. Let's say tomorrow, Fano forms a government at 4kilo. Does it need a port or not? In Ethiopian enemies - Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia & Djibouti refuse that access or make it so expensive for Ethiopia, what would you advise Fano to do?

But, we need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the dirty water. ሁልግዜ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄራዊ ጥቅምና የገዢ መንግስት ጥቅም ጥርት አድርገን መለየት አለብን ። በአቢይ ላይ ያለንን ጥላቻ በመጋለብ ምድረ ተገንጣይ የግብጽ አቃጣሪ ሁላ በኢትዮጵያ ላይ የሚያጎርፉት ስድብ በፍጹም አይመቸኝም ።

selam
መንገድ ላይ እየተላለፍን ስለሆነ ራሴን መደጋገም አልሻም። የጻፍኩትን አንብበው ። ኬር!

[Selam/]

What was Eritrea called before 1890 & under which empires was it governed?

Yes, Ethiopia is very poor & landlocked but Eritrea is not any different either despite generations of exposure to the outside world and relatively less political power turnover. For example, 20% Eritreans have immigrated to other countries. Why?

there was no Eritrea before Italy’s occupation. If you consider British colony a country, then Eritrea had also been an independent country. But again sadly, it’s been the longstanding norm of African nations to maintain their colonial-era borders and allegiance to their former slave masters.

Just because you didn't know how to pronounce the name Eritrea, it doesn't mean that the country did not exist. In fact, Eritrea was a country long before Menelik expanded his tiny kingdom of Shoa by incorporating neighboring Southern nations through conquest in the 1880's.

Ironically, the 84-year-old Ethiopia was the seat of the Organization of African Unity (OAU) in 1964, when all member states, including Haile Selassie, pledged themselves to respect the colonial borders existing at independence, which was enshrined in a July 1964 resolution of the OAU.

Here's the mother of all ironies. Haile Selassie, whose country was under Italian colonization for 6 years until the British colonial forces "liberated" the country in 1941, and who was later hired by the US to occupy the nation of Eritrea in 1952, didn't see the irony in signing the OAU agreement in 1964 that invalidates his claim over sovereign nation of Eritrea, a country that, too, was under Italian colonization like Ethiopia, and has the most clearly defined borders in all of Africa.

[Fiyameta]

Fiyameta,
Let me ask you one simple question. I am not sure if being a colony of 5 empires for 500 years is a proud history but my one question is why? why is Eritrea still in discussion with Ethiopians after 30 years of liberation and 30 years of independence???? Don't you think that there is something missing??? Why are so many Eritreans in Ethiopia any way????

There are two kinds of people who ignore history. Those who are ashamed of their past, and those who have no past at all. As unfortunate as it was, colonialism is indeed part of our history whether we are brave enough to face our past, or run away from it because it makes us feel like "we are just like any other African." One of Ethiopia's past emperors once said: "I am not a Negro at all; I am a Caucasian." An argument can be made that, the emperor didn't have a mirror to see what he looked like. But I think he equated the word Caucasian with being "civilized", so he tried to appear as such.

I don't quiet understand why Eritrea has become the center of discussion in Ethiopia, but I have recently seen a video (posted below) that offered me a glimpse into the minds of the educated class in Ethiopia-- the driving force behind the discussions on Eritrea, and it helped me to conclude that gossips are negative emotions that come from an empty mind.

[Fiyameta]

Before it was called Eritrea, for thousands of years the Red Sea Nation was known as ምድሪ ባሕሪ, or የቀይ ባህር ባለቤት roughly translated into Amharic.

For the last 20 years, we've been hearing similar reports that put the number of Eritrean migrants at 20%, 50%, and even 90%, of the total Eritrean population. But we were never bothered by such outlandish reports because no one knows the truth better than us. If you never heard us respond to such reports, it is because we wanted to use it to our advantage. We wanted our enemies to make their calculations based on their own false reports and Aśś-umptions. By maintaining our silence and keeping a Poker Face, we made the enemy feel emboldened to say "ኤርትራን ለማሸነፍ ጥይት መተኮስ ኣያስፈልግም ፡ ጥርሳችን እየፋቅን እንገባለን...!"

This is when we knew our strategy was working. Even some white dude in Washington was so deluded by these reports that he ordered over two million agame to be conscripted for what he thought would be a walk in the park. But what he didn't know was, there lurked a crocodile underwater that has kept a minimum exposure, in which only its eyes can be seen above the water's surface, but all its advanced sensory organs and excellent vision locked on the prey. What happened next is anyone's guess.

1.5 million dead agame, and half a million left standing on one leg...... just because of a "feel-good" report someone had fabricated about Eritrea's migration. IQ Matters!

What was Eritrea called before 1890 & under which empires was it governed?

Yes, Ethiopia is very poor & landlocked but Eritrea is not any different either despite generations of exposure to the outside world and relatively less political power turnover. For example, 20% Eritreans have immigrated to other countries. Why?

there was no Eritrea before Italy’s occupation. If you consider British colony a country, then Eritrea had also been an independent country. But again sadly, it’s been the longstanding norm of African nations to maintain their colonial-era borders and allegiance to their former slave masters.

Just because you didn't know how to pronounce the name Eritrea, it doesn't mean that the country did not exist. In fact, Eritrea was a country long before Menelik expanded his tiny kingdom of Shoa by incorporating neighboring Southern nations through conquest in the 1880's.

Ironically, the 84-year-old Ethiopia was the seat of the Organization of African Unity (OAU) in 1964, when all member states, including Haile Selassie, pledged themselves to respect the colonial borders existing at independence, which was enshrined in a July 1964 resolution of the OAU.

Here's the mother of all ironies. Haile Selassie, whose country was under Italian colonization for 6 years until the British colonial forces "liberated" the country in 1941, and who was later hired by the US to occupy the nation of Eritrea in 1952, didn't see the irony in signing the OAU agreement in 1964 that invalidates his claim over sovereign nation of Eritrea, a country that, too, was under Italian colonization like Ethiopia, and has the most clearly defined borders in all of Africa.

[Selam/]

Brother Fiyameta - Thank you for answering my questions but you didn’t fully explain the pre-1890 administration system of ምድሪ ባሕሪ or territory of the Bahr Negash, which in my understanding is coined with King Zera Yacob.

If the 20% report is wrong, which I personally rounded up based on the number of Eritrean immigrants throughout the world, please give me the correct percentage, so we are on same page. And I don’t dispute your point about the fact that Eritrea’s mass immigration to the global north is a boon. That’s what every African immigrant thinks when they leave their country to seek a better life and use this lifetime opportunity to financially assist their families back home. However, immigration is also a curse. First, there are push factors primarily associated with bad governance & economic misery. Second, immigration is a dirty & risky business these days. Many immigrants end up in some filthy prisons, Sahel desert or Mediterranean Sea. Third, most of the immigrants never return home.

Having said that, I am not sure why you associated Eritrea’s migration with your “enemies” and “dead Agames”. It’s true that Eritrea beat Woyanes badly but that’s because you excelled them in war strategy & fighting, not because you put out a false migration report. That would be a very silly argument and disservice to your national army.

Another immigration dynamics that’s rarely mentioned is inter-African migration. For example, Ethiopians migrate to Sudan, Kenya, Djibouti and Tanzania; Sudanese migrate to Egypt, Libya, Central Africa, Eritrea, Ethiopia & Uganda; Eritreans migrate to Ethiopia, Djibouti & Sudan. I always wonder why Ethiopians don't often migrate to Eritrea. How many african migrants are there in Eritrea today?

Before it was called Eritrea, for thousands of years the Red Sea Nation was known as ምድሪ ባሕሪ, or የቀይ ባህር ባለቤት roughly translated into Amharic.

For the last 20 years, we've been hearing similar reports that put the number of Eritrean migrants at 20%, 50%, and even 90%, of the total Eritrean population. But we were never bothered by such outlandish reports because no one knows the truth better than us. If you never heard us respond to such reports, it is because we wanted to use it to our advantage. We wanted our enemies to make their calculations based on their own false reports and Aśś-umptions. By maintaining our silence and keeping a Poker Face, we made the enemy feel emboldened to say "ኤርትራን ለማሸነፍ ጥይት መተኮስ ኣያስፈልግም ፡ ጥርሳችን እየፋቅን እንገባለን...!"

This is when we knew our strategy was working. Even some white dude in Washington was so deluded by these reports that he ordered over two million agame to be conscripted for what he thought would be a walk in the park. But what he didn't know was, there lurked a crocodile underwater that has kept a minimum exposure, in which only its eyes can be seen above the water's surface, but all its advanced sensory organs and excellent vision locked on the prey. What happened next is anyone's guess.

1.5 million dead agame, and half a million left standing on one leg...... just because of a "feel-good" report someone had fabricated about Eritrea's migration. IQ Matters!

What was Eritrea called before 1890 & under which empires was it governed?

Yes, Ethiopia is very poor & landlocked but Eritrea is not any different either despite generations of exposure to the outside world and relatively less political power turnover. For example, 20% Eritreans have immigrated to other countries. Why?

there was no Eritrea before Italy’s occupation. If you consider British colony a country, then Eritrea had also been an independent country. But again sadly, it’s been the longstanding norm of African nations to maintain their colonial-era borders and allegiance to their former slave masters.

Just because you didn't know how to pronounce the name Eritrea, it doesn't mean that the country did not exist. In fact, Eritrea was a country long before Menelik expanded his tiny kingdom of Shoa by incorporating neighboring Southern nations through conquest in the 1880's.

Ironically, the 84-year-old Ethiopia was the seat of the Organization of African Unity (OAU) in 1964, when all member states, including Haile Selassie, pledged themselves to respect the colonial borders existing at independence, which was enshrined in a July 1964 resolution of the OAU.

Here's the mother of all ironies. Haile Selassie, whose country was under Italian colonization for 6 years until the British colonial forces "liberated" the country in 1941, and who was later hired by the US to occupy the nation of Eritrea in 1952, didn't see the irony in signing the OAU agreement in 1964 that invalidates his claim over sovereign nation of Eritrea, a country that, too, was under Italian colonization like Ethiopia, and has the most clearly defined borders in all of Africa.

[Abere]

In fact the name of the Continent Africa itself associated with Ethiopia. Did you know once Atlantic ocean was called Ethiopian ocean? The Indian ocean was also an Ethiopian ocean in older times.

[Selam/]

In fact, the territory from Port of Zeila to Berbera belonged to Ethiopia in recent history.

In fact the name of the Continent Africa itself associated with Ethiopia. Did you know once Atlantic ocean was called Ethiopian ocean? The Indian ocean was also an Ethiopian ocean in older times.