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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

Post by opmerc » 02 Feb 2020, 12:28

Ethoash wrote:
01 Feb 2020, 11:52
የሌቦች ዲጂታል ጠበቃ,

First, there is no we. You are not Ethiopian. You and every weyane is a tick on Ethiopia waiting to be removed. Second, check if any of your gibberish holds up to a single google search before you post it.
Unlike most other countries, the U.S. does not prohibit its citizens from making themselves stateless
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... broad.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquis ... ationality

Third, there is nothing you can say that even begins to interest me so don't quote me or expect an actual response.

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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

Post by Dawi » 02 Feb 2020, 15:53

DefendTheTruth wrote:
02 Feb 2020, 09:51
it shouldn't be a much difficult issue to resolve this matter taken in a legal terms, I guess.

As a citizen you can go to the Ethiopian concerned Authorities (Immigration and Nationality Affairs office, I guess) and apply for a passport and lay down the requirments.
Defend,

I don't know if you've looked at it but, in the following quote from AddisStandard news, Jawar has filed all the documents necessary. Including "letter stated that a certificate of loss of his US nationality given to him by the US embassy in Addis Abeba on January 06/2020 was attached along with other documents".

Jawar Mohammed, who held a US citizenship, has renounced his US citizenship, according to Tiruneh. A letter written by Jawar to the Main Department for Immigration and Nationality Affairs on January 22/2020 and received by an officer named Atikilti Abraha on the same day, requested the immigration office for re-admission of citizenship. In the two pages letter Jawar stated that he attached with the letter nine different supporting documents as required by the law. Among the documents listed, No. 4 stated that he has attached a copy of a letter from the US embassy in Addis Abeba written on January 06/2020 announcing that he has renounced his US citizenship. No. 5 of the same letter stated that a certificate of loss of his US nationality given to him by the US embassy in Addis Abeba on January 06/2020 was attached along with other documents.addisstandard / February 1, 2020 / 211

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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 02 Feb 2020, 16:40

Dawi wrote:
02 Feb 2020, 15:53


Defend,

I don't know if you've looked at it but, in the following quote from AddisStandard news, Jawar has filed all the documents necessary. Including "letter stated that a certificate of loss of his US nationality given to him by the US embassy in Addis Abeba on January 06/2020 was attached along with other documents".
Like I said before I am not a legal expert on the issue here or any other legal issues for that matter. But the sentences in the application seems to me to have purportedly written by Jaanjoo Mohammad more probably very fraudulent to me. I am saying this not because I have something against someone getting his/her citizenship back but above all matters the rule of law matters, in my school of thought.

I think both naturalisation and denaturalisation are processes not just events by themselves. It is not something like you appear at certain public office and say: "here is your passport take it away from me and give me a confirmation letter of your taking back my citizenship status", which would have been a funny thing.

You apply and that application has to go through a lengthy approval procedure of different authorities and I am not sure about what he meant about a one day event at the American Embassy in Addis.Was the process started or ended on the date? it is not clear to me here.

"የአሜርካ ዜግነቴንም በታህሳስ 27 ቀን 2012 ዓም (January 6, 2020) በመተው ቁጥር 530745298 የሆነውን የኣሜርካ ፓስፖርቱን አድስ አበባ ለምገኛው በኢትዮጵያ የኣሜርካን ኤምባሲ መልሻለሁ።"

In a place where I live the process of naturalization may take something from 6 months well over a year or more. It has to be concretized what has actually happend on the 27 of Tahesas, 2012 and Addis Standard could have written that part in a more clear words in its reporting, I think. Is there something to hide, for what purpose? We have already many different things keeping us busy, unable to resolve easily and no need to add one more source of contention here.

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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

Post by Ethoash » 03 Feb 2020, 03:48

DDT,
Ethiopia: ሰበር ዜና - ኤርሚያስ ለገሰ የአዲስ አባባ ባላደራ ምክር ቤትምክትል ሰብሳቢ ሆኖ ተሾመ | ንግግሩን ይዘናል
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አዲዲቲ ጥብቅ ማሳስቢያ አለኝ ። እሲቲ ይህንን አጣርተህ ንገረኝ። ኤርሚያስ ለገስ ሙሉ የአሜሪካዊ ዜጋ ነው ። በውጭ ነው የሚኖረው እንዴት ተብሎ ነው የእስክንድር ምክትል የሚሆነው ዜግነቱን ሳይቀይር ። እስቲ በዚህ ላይ ረዘም ያለ የጥናት አተታህን አቅርብልን። በጣም ደስ የሚል ስራ ስርተሀል በጁሀር ላይ አሁን ደግሞ እስቲ ምን ችግር አቶ ኤርሚያስ ለገስ እንደሚገጥመው ። እስክንድርም እንደሚክሰስ አብራርተህ ንገረን።

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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

Post by wegri » 03 Feb 2020, 05:07

pushkin wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 14:07
The dedebit man! 1. Weyzerit is a title to the unmarried not virgin
2. She stayed in the USa by the resident permit. Incase she wants to travel outside the USa, they give her a travel document.

Ethoash wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 13:19
ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ

two question is ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ a virgin? after giving birth in jail.
second question is ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ Ethiopia citizen ? how she stay in USA without Ethiopian passport ?
Brother Pushkin,
Remember, you can't win an argument with stupid people. :mrgreen:

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Re: ሰበር ዜና፦ ጃዋር መሃመድ ለወ/ት ብርቱካን ሚደቅሳ በኢሜይል ዛቻና ማስፈራሪያ መላኩ ተሰማ!

Post by Ethoash » 03 Feb 2020, 08:57

opmerc wrote:
02 Feb 2020, 12:28


Unlike most other countries, the U.S. does not prohibit its citizens from making themselves stateless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquis ... ationality

i stand corrected here is what it said

Unlike most other countries, the U.S. does not prohibit its citizens from making themselves stateless, but the State Department strongly recommends against it


Many stateless persons can not travel within the borders of the country they call home because they lack "official" documentation. We can be held at any time, for any amount of time the authorities deem necessary to establish our identity. The truth is there are very few countries that will accept a stateless person. so u want Jahwar to fail in the Marcy of Ethiopian government .. they can refuse to give him citizenship than what ..
to me even returning USA passport show your patriotism for sure u will not do it.. i will not do it.. so jahwar is a hero ..
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Post by Selam/ » 03 Feb 2020, 09:36

Buda Woyane - Show me the evidence that Ermias is vice to Eskinder in the newly formed Baladera for Demicracy party. He was part of the civic organization to which anyone can be a member. Even if he is, two wrongs don’t make a right. As soon as his name shows up in the election commission, he will be kicked out. I wonder when you would transform yourself from crawling like a snake to walking like a dog. KIFU!

Ethoash wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 03:48
DDT,
Ethiopia: ሰበር ዜና - ኤርሚያስ ለገሰ የአዲስ አባባ ባላደራ ምክር ቤትምክትል ሰብሳቢ ሆኖ ተሾመ | ንግግሩን ይዘናል
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አዲዲቲ ጥብቅ ማሳስቢያ አለኝ ። እሲቲ ይህንን አጣርተህ ንገረኝ። ኤርሚያስ ለገስ ሙሉ የአሜሪካዊ ዜጋ ነው ። በውጭ ነው የሚኖረው እንዴት ተብሎ ነው የእስክንድር ምክትል የሚሆነው ዜግነቱን ሳይቀይር ። እስቲ በዚህ ላይ ረዘም ያለ የጥናት አተታህን አቅርብልን። በጣም ደስ የሚል ስራ ስርተሀል በጁሀር ላይ አሁን ደግሞ እስቲ ምን ችግር አቶ ኤርሚያስ ለገስ እንደሚገጥመው ። እስክንድርም እንደሚክሰስ አብራርተህ ንገረን።

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