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Sadacha Macca
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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Sadacha Macca » 17 Dec 2019, 17:54

Zmeselo wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 22:03
Sadacha Macca wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 21:35
Zmeselo,


We know very well the globalist plans and so on; do you think we lack intellectuals to assess our issues and so on?

We do NOT need an arrogant neighbor of ours pointing out our flaws and problems, we're well aware of them.
Eritrea has issues too, no one can deny it, but of course, you guys would not come here and admit this among ethiopians people you may consider to be your former ''colonizers,'' or ''foes,' or what have you.

To sum it up: we do not need the condescending words of our neighbors, we know our issues and problems.
this is just going to be taken as an arrogant eritrean trying to tell us what's best for us and so on, while we are more aware of our problems than he is.
And he's doing it in an insulting manner/way. Not in the way one would ''advise, or warn,'' a neighbor or comrade
If you guys are aware of it, then why fall for it?

He posted an article, written by someone else. How does that make him- "arrogant"? You know very well his views on Abyi and they're positive.

You might be aware of the machinations, but not every Ethiopian is. Eritreans, because of what we went through and because of our small numbers are well aware of it. His insults are directed at the weyane cockroaches, mostly. You know eritreans get insulted daily in this forum too, and it's not in our habit to take it lying down

I really can't see what eritrean problems, you're talking about. Is it democratization? If so, for now, we're satisfied at how things stand. We're struggling for economic emanicipation, to avoid migration and such. Elections and issues of that nature, we've decided it's a matter for the future.

With risk of sounding like cigar's lawyer, but that's the way I see it. He can add to it more, hopefully.

Peace!


1 Be honest, in Ethiopia or elsewhere, how often do the average workers/students/minamen, have an actual say in what occurs in the higher circles of governmental affairs?
does the average kebessa, afar, saho, bilen, etc, have a say in the decisions President Wedi Jegena makes?
Do you think we can also turn down any loans, when we ALL KNOW THAT THE TPLF LEFT OUR COFFERS EMPTY PRIOR TO HEADING BACK TO MEKELLE HOTEL?
Ya know.. the same tplf that tried to reverse eritrean independence, the same tplf that the eplf fought so hard to impose on ethiopia??
[we let bygones be bygones, but do not think that we'd forget history sir!]

2. eritrea has its fair shares of problems, i am sure you guys know this as well, perhaps not as many problems as ethiopia [a bigger more prominent country on the international stage of geopolitics], but as a proud shabia member/cadre and proud eritrean, of course you would not sit here and list your countries problems out.
but of course... you guys have no problems when it comes to reminding us of our issues.

yes eritreans get insulted, but who is doing the insulting- is it oromos? no. is it amaras? no.


sun
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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by sun » 17 Dec 2019, 18:34

Cigar wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 16:18
When a country is hoodwinked to get billions of dollars of loans, it becomes the playing ground of the rich western corporations.
The ethiopian govt actually advertise that its citizens will work for the white man's business with peanuts, which is tenth or half of the Chinese or Bangladeshi get paid to do the same crappy job.
Sad.

https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs ... s/11098232
Hmm... 8)

They may be getting paid worlds lowest but then they can get organized, improve their skills, improve their experiences and slowly but surely keep bargaining for better salaries and better conditions just like all of these developing country workers competing for investments and employment opportunities. In conditions where unemployment are very high labor cost is very low since employment or getting employed is a luxury for the few under the given condition. So, it is even more sad if people are unemployed and starving.

Sweet self serving empty propaganda aside it can be said that life is giving and taking. What is so much wrong with Bangladesh since it gives what it has and takes what it does not have. In exchanging and the givings and the takings, the one who owns quality gets the larger quantity while the one who owns much lesser quality gets much lesser income until such a time when he or she may be able to raise qualities and then demand higher pays and higher gains. This is not about the far fetched Black or White issue but instead about quality and superior knowledge and know-how issue. Even among the blacks and blacks, browns and browns, browns and blacks the same economic logic applies. So why artificially get bogged down on the issue of whiteness alone
? Yasaffiral ikkoo! 8)

Zmeselo
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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Zmeselo » 17 Dec 2019, 19:34

Sadacha Macca wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 17:54
Zmeselo wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 22:03
Sadacha Macca wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 21:35
Zmeselo,


We know very well the globalist plans and so on; do you think we lack intellectuals to assess our issues and so on?

We do NOT need an arrogant neighbor of ours pointing out our flaws and problems, we're well aware of them.
Eritrea has issues too, no one can deny it, but of course, you guys would not come here and admit this among ethiopians people you may consider to be your former ''colonizers,'' or ''foes,' or what have you.

To sum it up: we do not need the condescending words of our neighbors, we know our issues and problems.
this is just going to be taken as an arrogant eritrean trying to tell us what's best for us and so on, while we are more aware of our problems than he is.
And he's doing it in an insulting manner/way. Not in the way one would ''advise, or warn,'' a neighbor or comrade
If you guys are aware of it, then why fall for it?

He posted an article, written by someone else. How does that make him- "arrogant"? You know very well his views on Abyi and they're positive.

You might be aware of the machinations, but not every Ethiopian is. Eritreans, because of what we went through and because of our small numbers are well aware of it. His insults are directed at the weyane cockroaches, mostly. You know eritreans get insulted daily in this forum too, and it's not in our habit to take it lying down

I really can't see what eritrean problems, you're talking about. Is it democratization? If so, for now, we're satisfied at how things stand. We're struggling for economic emanicipation, to avoid migration and such. Elections and issues of that nature, we've decided it's a matter for the future.

With risk of sounding like cigar's lawyer, but that's the way I see it. He can add to it more, hopefully.

Peace!


1 Be honest, in Ethiopia or elsewhere, how often do the average workers/students/minamen, have an actual say in what occurs in the higher circles of governmental affairs?
does the average kebessa, afar, saho, bilen, etc, have a say in the decisions President Wedi Jegena makes?
Do you think we can also turn down any loans, when we ALL KNOW THAT THE TPLF LEFT OUR COFFERS EMPTY PRIOR TO HEADING BACK TO MEKELLE HOTEL?
Ya know.. the same tplf that tried to reverse eritrean independence, the same tplf that the eplf fought so hard to impose on ethiopia??
[we let bygones be bygones, but do not think that we'd forget history sir!]

2. eritrea has its fair shares of problems, i am sure you guys know this as well, perhaps not as many problems as ethiopia [a bigger more prominent country on the international stage of geopolitics], but as a proud shabia member/cadre and proud eritrean, of course you would not sit here and list your countries problems out.
but of course... you guys have no problems when it comes to reminding us of our issues.

yes eritreans get insulted, but who is doing the insulting- is it oromos? no. is it amaras? no.
Depends, on what area. They make decisions for their personal lives, yes! They're not micromanaged like in N. Korea, as the media falsely portrays it. The bigger consequential issues, yes, the PFDJ decides. And even there, I personally don't believe PIA rules dictatorially as for instance Menghistu did. At least a quiet consensus, amongst the ministers & him is there. If one follows what's said on the outside, it gives the impression that the ministers are simply benchwarmers & cutouts. They're not! These people know eachother, from decades back. Even the arrested ministers, the "bayto" decided action be taken & not as the media portrays it. As if he just points his finger at someone & they're hauled into a dungeon (house arrest actually), a la Haile Selassie.

The importance of Ethiopia has up-to- now been, as a servant nation for superpowers. I don't give that, so much importance or respect. Now with PM Abyi, that might change though.

I know, what the weyane has done. I heard a rumor, PM Abyi compelled South Africa to freeze weyane assets in billions of $. I hope it's true, & that Ethiopia makes them cough it all back. I'm pretty sure, there're more billions stashed around the world. This IMF etc borrowing has consequences, as you might well be aware. There's no free lunch as they say, & it's not only Ethiopia. It's practically every so called 3rd world country, afflicted by this problem. When the country forfeits its payment, it has to give some national asset as collateral.

The insulting is mostly done by the tegaru, but when we respond, it happens ppl like you feel sleighted and start backing them up in the name of etiopiawnet; which they hardly believe in & want to belong to. I'm convinced, had they won over Eritrea in 1998, they would've declared their Republic and abandoned Ethiopia with a puppet "govt" in Asmara they lord over.

So Eritreans, saved both Eritrea & Ethiopia.

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