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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by kerenite » 09 Jan 2024, 16:24

euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:30
Ato Horus
While at it, try to read the history of Egypt and EPLF/Eritrea’s relationship. It is always been very poor since the era of struggle. Egypt armed, trained and financed Jebha, the arch enemy of Shaebia until last minute. Despite repeated warnings from Shaebia leaders, Egypt continued to do so. It also trained and financed a few Muslim extremest in the border with Eritrea/Sudan, inside Sudan after independence. Shaebia was forced to cross to Sudan territory and decimated their camps and captured important documents that led to Egypt’s involvement. PIA is a person who never forgives or let the time heal the misdeed people do to him. It shows til today that Eritrea never trust Egypt and also keep a very close eye on Egypt’s embassy employees in Asmara. It also limits how many members Egypt has to have and so. Despite some desperate Ethiopians try to accuse Eritrea for having relationship, Ethiopian authorities know well Egypt and Eritrea never been in good term since the 1960th. In short, Ethiopia has better relationships with Egypt than Eritrea has with Egypt.

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
You scribbled "Jebha was financed and trained by Egypt" I am laughing out loud.

This is an outright lie and it is a sort of prostituting to win the hearts and minds of ethiopians.

I wonder why you amiches want to re-write history. Jebha or ELF was never ever financed or trained by nassir's Egypt. On the contrary, nassir was in good terms with sillassie in the 1960s. Hence, the jeganu eritreans when they were forming Jebha while meeting in cairo, they were meeting secretly and hiding themselves from the Egyptian security officials and at times they were bribing them.

I wonder why you amiches want to re-write history.

Finally,

I hope you won't label me WEDI-SHIRE, which is applied here and lastly it was applied by the amiche Dark Energy.

Food for thought for any, the term wedi-shire is a code and it means eri-muslim. It is applied not by all eritreans but by a bunch of amiches and the offspring of unknown fathers besides grand children of alula's remnants who remained in Eritrea behind. Any who disagrees with them be it a tigrayit speaker or saho or afar or hidareb or nara or bilen is a SHIRE-AGAME according to their bigoted perception.

In conclusion, if in future any one of them blubbers shire-agame (read Eri-Muslims)

This forum is full of them.
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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Somaliman » 09 Jan 2024, 16:25

Mark my word, there won't be any conflict, this fuc.king MoU will die on its own, as Ethiopia is not in a position to put it up. This is an empty bravado and simplistic provocation meant to test the waters and distract people.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Abere » 09 Jan 2024, 16:31

First, you can't even fight Somaliland and win. You are jumming against Ethiopia because you thought the world could stop Ethiopia invading the Al Shabab destroyed Somalia. Just let you, Ethiopians will not let off the hook unlike the U.S. that let you alone to later destroy your own self. The question is can even Somalia be a country or tossed up between Kenya ?
Somaliman wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:25
Mark my word, there won't be any conflict, this fuc.king MoU will die on its own, as Ethiopia is not in a position to put it up. This is an empty bravado and simplistic provocation meant to test the waters and distract people.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Zack » 09 Jan 2024, 16:32

What ever the case is Somaliman we should keep our eyes wide open the Somali interior minister said today that Ethiopia appointed a pope for Zeila not sure what they mean by that

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Fed_Up » 09 Jan 2024, 16:33

DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:45
Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
That is not smart, at least there is no evidence to qualify that way. Did you read the said statement from Shabia? If you did, why didn't you share it instead of this gibberish comment by someone like you?

If you reached on that conclusion before you have even seen the message, then it is not the "statement" that is smart but it is you that is dull, like I have told you many times before.
Dafentamu,

If you worry about Egypt, why don't you close their embassy in Addis?

Eritrea can side, work, and engage with every entity that respects our interests. We no longer give a crap about your government or country called Ethiopia. You must know those days when we side and bleed or hurt our collective interest for the wellbeing of the fvcked up country called ungrateful Ethiopia are long gone.

Somalia’s integrity and sovereignty must be respected!!

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Zack » 09 Jan 2024, 16:36

kerenite wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:24
euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:30
Ato Horus
While at it, try to read the history of Egypt and EPLF/Eritrea’s relationship. It is always been very poor since the era of struggle. Egypt armed, trained and financed Jebha, the arch enemy of Shaebia until last minute. Despite repeated warnings from Shaebia leaders, Egypt continued to do so. It also trained and financed a few Muslim extremest in the border with Eritrea/Sudan, inside Sudan after independence. Shaebia was forced to cross to Sudan territory and decimated their camps and captured important documents that led to Egypt’s involvement. PIA is a person who never forgives or let the time heal the misdeed people do to him. It shows til today that Eritrea never trust Egypt and also keep a very close eye on Egypt’s embassy employees in Asmara. It also limits how many members Egypt has to have and so. Despite some desperate Ethiopians try to accuse Eritrea for having relationship, Ethiopian authorities know well Egypt and Eritrea never been in good term since the 1960th. In short, Ethiopia has better relationships with Egypt than Eritrea has with Egypt.

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
You scribbled "Jebha was financed and trained by Egypt" I am laughing out loud.

This is an outright lie and it is a sort of prostituting to win the hearts and minds of ethiopians.

I wonder why you amiches want to re-write history. Jebha or ELF was never ever financed or trained by nassir's Egypt. On the contrary, nassir was in good terms with sillassie in the 1960s. Hence, the jeganu eritreans when they were forming Jebha while meeting in cairo, they were meeting secretly and hiding themselves from the Egyptian security officials and at times they were bribing them.

I wonder why you amiches want to re-write history.

Finally,

I hope you won't label me WEDI-SHIRE, which is applied here and lastly it was applied by the amiche Dark Energy.

Food for thought for any, the term wedi-shire is a code and it means eri-muslim. It is applied not by by all eritreans but by a bunch of amiches and the offspring of unknown fathers besides grand children of alula's remnants who remained in Eritrea behind.

In conclusion, if in future any one of them blubbers shire-agame (read Eri-Muslims)

This forum is full of them.
support is never cheap and it always about what is the interest at hand Egypt support of eritrea independence was to weaken Ethiopia , it wasnt that they care for the Eritrean freedom. The same way Ethiopia supports the independence of Somaliland not out of good will of the Somalilanders but they want to keep the Somalis weak.

By the way euro lander is he an amiche i always thought was an Eritrean from Eritrea proper
How many amiches are here i know fed up;
I know Cigar used to play football during the time of Haille sellasie in the national team of Ethiopia that makes him over 60 years old now

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by ethiopian » 09 Jan 2024, 16:37

Fed_Up wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:33
DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:45
Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
That is not smart, at least there is no evidence to qualify that way. Did you read the said statement from Shabia? If you did, why didn't you share it instead of this gibberish comment by someone like you?

If you reached on that conclusion before you have even seen the message, then it is not the "statement" that is smart but it is you that is dull, like I have told you many times before.
Dafentamu,

If you worry about Egypt, why don't you close their embassy in Addis?

Eritrea can side, work, and engage with every entity that respects our interests. We no longer give a crap about your government or country called Ethiopia. You must know those days when we side and bleed or hurt our collective interest for the wellbeing of the fvcked up country called ungrateful Ethiopia are long gone.

Somalia’s integrity and sovereignty must be respected!!


Eritrea is non consequential tiny but yet mega ghetho. Do NOT act like so important !!! now feck off

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Fed_Up » 09 Jan 2024, 16:40

ethiopian wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:37
Fed_Up wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:33
DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:45
Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
That is not smart, at least there is no evidence to qualify that way. Did you read the said statement from Shabia? If you did, why didn't you share it instead of this gibberish comment by someone like you?

If you reached on that conclusion before you have even seen the message, then it is not the "statement" that is smart but it is you that is dull, like I have told you many times before.
Dafentamu,

If you worry about Egypt, why don't you close their embassy in Addis?

Eritrea can side, work, and engage with every entity that respects our interests. We no longer give a crap about your government or country called Ethiopia. You must know those days when we side and bleed or hurt our collective interest for the wellbeing of the fvcked up country called ungrateful Ethiopia are long gone.

Somalia’s integrity and sovereignty must be respected!!


Eritrea is non consequential tiny but yet mega ghetho. Do NOT act like so important !!! now feck off
Said so Starvin Marvin. The poster child of USAID.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by sarcasm » 09 Jan 2024, 16:43

euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:30
Ato Horus
While at it, try to read the history of Egypt and EPLF/Eritrea’s relationship. It is always been very poor since the era of struggle. Egypt armed, trained and financed Jebha, the arch enemy of Shaebia until last minute.


That is not true. Egypt has always supported Eritrea's independence struggle from 1940s until 1991 when it started campaigning against Eritrea's independence. Why? Because the war was not supposed to end in Egypt's eyes. It was supposed to keep Ethiopia permanently at war. Eritreans knew why Egypt was supporting the independence struggle. Ethiopian knew why Egypt was supporting the independence struggle. Checkout the below video when Isaias said he knew why Egypt had supported the struggle. I am not saying Eritrea's independence struggle was wrong here. I am just stating facts as they were.

Egypt allowed Ato Woldeab Woldemariam to broadcast Independence radio program in Tigrigna and Arabic (from Cairo) starting from 1956!! How many African countries had radio programs in their local languages, let alone to have opposition radio station in 1956?!

https://zantana.net/woldeab_woldemariam ... rom_cairo/



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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by temari » 09 Jan 2024, 16:52

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:19
First and foremost, let’s all agree that the con artist has neither the resources nor the diplomatic skills to secure a true access to the sea for Ethiopia.

Having said that, the statement from the Eritrean government is wise if you ask me unlike many Eritreans and government supporters who are short sighted and don’t really understand how they are helping prolong the hardship of Eritrea.

Let me explain what I mean. If Ethiopia gets a true access to the sea, this will lift so much pressure and future risk for Eritrea coming from Ethiopia. As a result, Eritrea will get a chance to shift its working manpower from military to development.

Eritrea has a relatively small population and it’s cursed with a big bully neighbor. Due to its small population, Eritrea can never focus on development as long as Ethiopian threat is on the table. Hostility with Ethiopia means the continuation of the last decades, i.e. Eritrea will have no other option but to focus everything on military. This would be a tragedy!

If I were Eritrean, I would do everything to help Ethiopia get some access to the sea if possible but never ever try to block such endeavor. That’s suicidal. Eritrea‘s number one focus should be to shift all its resources to development and this can only be achieved when the pressure from Ethiopia is significantly reduced. Otherwise and as a country with small population, Eritrea is cursed never to utilize its resources for development as long as a threat from Ethiopia exists. That’s the reason, why anything that reduces that threat should be welcomed by Eritreans.

I don’t understand the reaction of some Eritreans on this issue. They are working hard so the focus and threat of Ethiopia is exclusively on Eritrea and thereby helping kill any change for Eritrea to utilize its small manpower for development.

Anyway, as I said in another post, the HoA has become even more crazier thanks to the madman and con artist.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Abere » 09 Jan 2024, 16:57

This is what is called thinking outside of the box!



temari wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:52
Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:19
First and foremost, let’s all agree that the con artist has neither the resources nor the diplomatic skills to secure a true access to the sea for Ethiopia.

Having said that, the statement from the Eritrean government is wise if you ask me unlike many Eritreans and government supporters who are short sighted and don’t really understand how they are helping prolong the hardship of Eritrea.

Let me explain what I mean. If Ethiopia gets a true access to the sea, this will lift so much pressure and future risk for Eritrea coming from Ethiopia. As a result, Eritrea will get a chance to shift its working manpower from military to development.

Eritrea has a relatively small population and it’s cursed with a big bully neighbor. Due to its small population, Eritrea can never focus on development as long as Ethiopian threat is on the table. Hostility with Ethiopia means the continuation of the last decades, i.e. Eritrea will have no other option but to focus everything on military. This would be a tragedy!

If I were Eritrean, I would do everything to help Ethiopia get some access to the sea if possible but never ever try to block such endeavor. That’s suicidal. Eritrea‘s number one focus should be to shift all its resources to development and this can only be achieved when the pressure from Ethiopia is significantly reduced. Otherwise and as a country with small population, Eritrea is cursed never to utilize its resources for development as long as a threat from Ethiopia exists. That’s the reason, why anything that reduces that threat should be welcomed by Eritreans.

I don’t understand the reaction of some Eritreans on this issue. They are working hard so the focus and threat of Ethiopia is exclusively on Eritrea and thereby helping kill any change for Eritrea to utilize its small manpower for development.

Anyway, as I said in another post, the HoA has become even more crazier thanks to the madman and con artist.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Dark Energy » 09 Jan 2024, 16:57

F…uckers,

Let me explain this. Eritrea will not entangle itself militarily in this mess that the little twerp created. But, like many other countries, we are free to express our thought or vote on the problem at hand. We can invite who ever we want to enhance our understanding on the situation. Somalia or Somali Land, they are part of our neighborhood. We want respectful members in our hood. By the way, trust me, Eritrea is not your problem. The UN and African Union have the jurisdiction to settle the matter. :lol: :lol:

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by euroland » 09 Jan 2024, 17:09

Abere wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:46
I did not watch this video, but Eritrea is not going to be dragged into this Somalia mud. Why would it do so, what to earn? I do not think Eritrea will take a risk to save Somalia's arse - done 33 years ago.
Only the PeePee goons and the Agames want Eritrea to get dragged to this matter. Eritrea gains more by having the Horn of Africa becomes peace. Eritrea, whether it is Ethiopia or the US, also will not support the violation territorial integrity of Somalia…that is the Eritrean policy all along. What Abiy is doing is setting bad precedent which will backfire on Ethiopia. Any kilil that decides to use Article 39 of the Weyane constitution, Somalia and other countries will recognize the Kilil as a country. Furthermore, there is also an Ogaden issue that is like a buried time bomb that would explode. If Ogaden decides to secede, all Smali speaking countries will be more than happy to recognize it as a country or as a part of their region. You Ethiopians needs to be careful who you are cheering for today, this guy isn’t for Ethiopia, he is for himself and his masters. He is making Ethiopia many enemies.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 09 Jan 2024, 17:11

Somaliland existed as independent nation since 1991. Yes, the world did not acknowledge its independence. For that most of the blame should be put on AU. The African Union lack of courage to reshape the post-colonial border extended the time that Somaliland would enjoy world recognition. That recognition for sure it will come. When the British colonialism ended in 1960, Somaliland enjoyed a brief independence until it was incorporated to the greater Somalia. Despite the US state department recent statement that it stands for the sovereignty of Somalia, it is difficult to assume the US stands against the wishes of 3.5 million of Somalilanders. That statement probably aimed to appease Egypt. Egypt for sure does not want a stable, prosperous Ethiopia to emerge. Her having mutually beneficial cooperation with neighboring countries might not sit well in Cairo's political corridor. Will other countries share Egypt's goal? I hope not. There is this belief in some territorial integrity -- whatever that means -- is more important than the wishes of millions. That is nonsense.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by ethiopian » 09 Jan 2024, 17:14

Fed_Up wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:40
ethiopian wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:37
Fed_Up wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:33
DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:45
Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
That is not smart, at least there is no evidence to qualify that way. Did you read the said statement from Shabia? If you did, why didn't you share it instead of this gibberish comment by someone like you?

If you reached on that conclusion before you have even seen the message, then it is not the "statement" that is smart but it is you that is dull, like I have told you many times before.
Dafentamu,

If you worry about Egypt, why don't you close their embassy in Addis?

Eritrea can side, work, and engage with every entity that respects our interests. We no longer give a crap about your government or country called Ethiopia. You must know those days when we side and bleed or hurt our collective interest for the wellbeing of the fvcked up country called ungrateful Ethiopia are long gone.

Somalia’s integrity and sovereignty must be respected!!


Eritrea is non consequential tiny but yet mega ghetho. Do NOT act like so important !!! now feck off
Said so Starvin Marvin. The poster child of USAID.
Last time i went to Addis in November : I saw bunch of thugs from Eritrea and at Bole airport majority of people coming from Asmera carry their stuff with " festal " and they all look confused/ lost. Wey wey ' independence '

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Abere » 09 Jan 2024, 17:22

I assuredly believe in this: a stronger Ethiopia is great for Eritrea. The young generation has to be smarter not let the time pass by without utilizing the resources God endowed the region and prompting progress. What is the point if generation comes and goes without using anything of God's gift. While we are fighting their wars foolishly, the rest of the world is eating our pie. Our impoverishment is their wealth
euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 17:09
Abere wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:46
I did not watch this video, but Eritrea is not going to be dragged into this Somalia mud. Why would it do so, what to earn? I do not think Eritrea will take a risk to save Somalia's arse - done 33 years ago.
Only the PeePee goons and the Agames want Eritrea to get dragged to this matter. Eritrea gains more by having the Horn of Africa becomes peace. Eritrea, whether it is Ethiopia or the US, also will not support the violation territorial integrity of Somalia…that is the Eritrean policy all along. What Abiy is doing is setting bad precedent which will backfire on Ethiopia. Any kilil that decides to use Article 39 of the Weyane constitution, Somalia and other countries will recognize the Kilil as a country. Furthermore, there is also an Ogaden issue that is like a buried time bomb that would explode. If Ogaden decides to secede, all Smali speaking countries will be more than happy to recognize it as a country or as a part of their region. You Ethiopians needs to be careful who you are cheering for today, this guy isn’t for Ethiopia, he is for himself and his masters. He is making Ethiopia many enemies.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by euroland » 09 Jan 2024, 17:51

Some could say …ሰራቒ ሞባእ'ሲ ባዕሉ ይለፋለፍ :lol:
No, I assured you, I won’t call you Wedi-Shire :lol: . Furthermore, the Eris call you wedi shire because the soft heart you have for the Weyanes 😂. Nonetheless, don’t also try bring out Eri Muslim brothers here, they are patriot and a foundation of our independence. Now we have that settle.

You need to bring your proof that Jebha wasn’t supported by Egypt. I got my info, first hand who was involved in this matter since early mid 70th; he is now a high ranking EDF officer. He was involved in most of the tracking of Egypt’s assistance to Jebha. Perhaps, Egypt was doing it behind their friend, Hailesellasie. Either way, it was for the defeat of EPLF. Have you also noticed when Eritrea was fighting Weyane and all its masters alone in 198-2000, Egypt never keen in helping Eritrea to hurt Ethiopia? But when Weyane waged war against Ethiopia recently, Egypt was heavily involved supplying Weyanes;…do you wonder why?

For the most part, Egypt was doing her dirty job thru Nimery.


kerenite wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:24
euroland wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 15:30
Ato Horus
While at it, try to read the history of Egypt and EPLF/Eritrea’s relationship. It is always been very poor since the era of struggle. Egypt armed, trained and financed Jebha, the arch enemy of Shaebia until last minute. Despite repeated warnings from Shaebia leaders, Egypt continued to do so. It also trained and financed a few Muslim extremest in the border with Eritrea/Sudan, inside Sudan after independence. Shaebia was forced to cross to Sudan territory and decimated their camps and captured important documents that led to Egypt’s involvement. PIA is a person who never forgives or let the time heal the misdeed people do to him. It shows til today that Eritrea never trust Egypt and also keep a very close eye on Egypt’s embassy employees in Asmara. It also limits how many members Egypt has to have and so. Despite some desperate Ethiopians try to accuse Eritrea for having relationship, Ethiopian authorities know well Egypt and Eritrea never been in good term since the 1960th. In short, Ethiopia has better relationships with Egypt than Eritrea has with Egypt.

Horus wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:37
Fiyameta wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 14:27
WE ARE SAYING....

Yes, smart. The fate of Eritrea is forever tied to the fate of Ethiopia. Eritrea has no meaningful national interest in Somalia-Somaliland dispute. If anything, Eritrea should support the rights of Somalilanders to their own state. Eritrean involvement in Egypt's historical hostility to Ethiopia will be a strategic blunder on the part of Eritreans. Best policy for Esu is to stay neutral.
You scribbled "Jebha was financed and trained by Egypt" I am laughing out loud.

This is an outright lie and it is a sort of prostituting to win the hearts and minds of ethiopians.

I wonder why you amiches want to re-write history. Jebha or ELF was never ever financed or trained by nassir's Egypt. On the contrary, nassir was in good terms with sillassie in the 1960s. Hence, the jeganu eritreans when they were forming Jebha while meeting in cairo, they were meeting secretly and hiding themselves from the Egyptian security officials and at times they were bribing them.

I wonder why you amiches want to re-write history.

Finally,

I hope you won't label me WEDI-SHIRE, which is applied here and lastly it was applied by the amiche Dark Energy.

Food for thought for any, the term wedi-shire is a code and it means eri-muslim. It is applied not by all eritreans but by a bunch of amiches and the offspring of unknown fathers besides grand children of alula's remnants who remained in Eritrea behind. Any who disagrees with them be it a tigrayit speaker or saho or afar or hidareb or nara or bilen is a SHIRE-AGAME according to their bigoted perception.

In conclusion, if in future any one of them blubbers shire-agame (read Eri-Muslims)

This forum is full of them.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Somaliman » 09 Jan 2024, 18:07

Zack wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:32
What ever the case is Somaliman we should keep our eyes wide open the Somali interior minister said today that Ethiopia appointed a pope for Zeila not sure what they mean by that

Dr Zackovich




What do you mean by a pope?

There's only ever one pope in office in the whole world.

Plus Zeylac is not in Ethiopia, neither is there a church in Zeylac.

People are exaggerating this MoU fanfare. Ethiopia is not in a position to go to war with Somalia, neither would the West that has been helping rebuild Somalia allow another war to engulf Somalia and render all their efforts over the years an exercise in futility.

Mark my word. this MoU won't be officially retracted but nothing will happen.

However, yes, not only keeping our eyes wide open, but also, we've to get ready in every aspect, including militarily.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Zack » 09 Jan 2024, 18:50

i dont know its like a religious chief of the orthodox ethiopian church or a pente church the church abiye ahmed ali
it was circulating on twitter that the Ethiopian church appointed a pope to Zeila. i dont know whether to laugh or to be concernd yes Zeila is not a Church nor is it part of Ethiopia.

I dont think Ethiopia will dare to go to war with us for they will lose it might just be a blessing in disguise this MOU has really united Somalis. if there is something somalis dislike its Ethiopians and their so called agression towards something they dont own which is Somali territories ,whether in somalia proper or Somali galbeed.

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Re: So, What Is Eritrea Saying About Ethio-Somaliland Matter?

Post by Fiyameta » 09 Jan 2024, 18:52

temari wrote:
09 Jan 2024, 16:52

First and foremost, let’s all agree that the con artist has neither the resources nor the diplomatic skills to secure a true access to the sea for Ethiopia.

Having said that, the statement from the Eritrean government is wise if you ask me unlike many Eritreans and government supporters who are short sighted and don’t really understand how they are helping prolong the hardship of Eritrea.

Let me explain what I mean. If Ethiopia gets a true access to the sea, this will lift so much pressure and future risk for Eritrea coming from Ethiopia. As a result, Eritrea will get a chance to shift its working manpower from military to development.

Eritrea has a relatively small population and it’s cursed with a big bully neighbor. Due to its small population, Eritrea can never focus on development as long as Ethiopian threat is on the table. Hostility with Ethiopia means the continuation of the last decades, i.e. Eritrea will have no other option but to focus everything on military. This would be a tragedy!

If I were Eritrean, I would do everything to help Ethiopia get some access to the sea if possible but never ever try to block such endeavor. That’s suicidal. Eritrea‘s number one focus should be to shift all its resources to development and this can only be achieved when the pressure from Ethiopia is significantly reduced. Otherwise and as a country with small population, Eritrea is cursed never to utilize its resources for development as long as a threat from Ethiopia exists. That’s the reason, why anything that reduces that threat should be welcomed by Eritreans.

I don’t understand the reaction of some Eritreans on this issue. They are working hard so the focus and threat of Ethiopia is exclusively on Eritrea and thereby helping kill any change for Eritrea to utilize its small manpower for development.

Anyway, as I said in another post, the HoA has become even more crazier thanks to the madman and con artist.
Ethiopia is only a threat when its leaders are serving as mercenaries for Neo-colonial powers trying to keep Africans in chains. This threat is currently being fiercely challenged all over Africa, such as in Mali and Niger, where the people overthrew their mercenary leaders to free their countries from French Neo-colonialism.

It seems that you have willfully submitted to the fate of Ethiopia being a client state that you feel your leader's mercenary service entitles you to expand your territories at the risk of bringing your own country's existence to an end. That's a huge gamble on your part. That is an Ethiopian Roulette. It is always when you lose everything that you realize what you had was enough.

In his 2012 interview with ESAT TV, Professor Donald N. Levine of University of Chicago's Department of Sociology, who studied Ethiopian history throughout his academic career, revealed a very dangerous mindset that exists among some Ethiopian elite.



Donald Levine: "..... I'll tell you an experience I had that signaled to me that terrible times were ahead for Ethiopia.

I had a student in Chicago, an Ethiopian (and this was around 1970-71) በጣም ጨዋ ልጅ, he was the son of an elite family, and he said "a lot of us are thinking that we should do what they did in Russia to modernize."

And I said to him, do you know that in Russia what Stalin did cost the lives of 20 million people?

And here's what he said.....

"well, they had like 200 million people in Russia. So 20 million dead out of 200 million is 10%. Ethiopia has about 30 million people, and 10% of that is 3 million people."

Then he said...
"3 million dead Ethiopians would not be too high of a price to pay for progress." :shock: :shock:

When he said that my heart stopped, because he's the representative of the educated group of Ethiopians who were so embarrassed to be poor, and to be backward that, they thought how can we modernize as fast as possible? And if that means killing 3 million people, so be it!

I'm afraid that kind of thinking is still to be found even today. When the Ethiopian elite say 'blood must flow', it's always other people's blood that must flow, not their own blood, not the blood of their own children, or the blood of people from within their own ethnic group..."


What is 10% of 120 million people?
12 million.
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