Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:29Educator, do you know what happened to Sekuture after he spilled the beans in this televised program? He openly admitted what had happened and paid with his life.
Anywho, what did TPLF get that's new? Nada! Zilch! Abiy wanted to be on top. After two years of bloodshe,d suffering and distractions etc TPLF agreed to seat on top. But you are free to believe to have won the mega billion dollar lotto after the SA "peace deal" which in fact has many points that will lead to war.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:00Revelations, I couldn't see any clear substance in your argument below, so I will assume what you wanted to say in few points and address them as follow:
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:04Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
An honest answer may not be presented but all efforts to answers to the above question are welcomed.
Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
oh man.. they would be dead two years ago. Now they are alive. What did they get by fighting? LIFE. What kind of life? Life with money and power - luxurious life with freedom to roam around the world freely in first class. What part of life and death you don't understand? Just consult a dictionary, man.
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
What LIFE does Sekutere Getachew has, dear Educator? He admitted TPLF started the war and his life was ended. Tell the truth and be free.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:47oh man.. they would be dead two years ago. Now they are alive. What did they get by fighting? LIFE. What kind of life? Life with money and power - luxurious life with freedom to roam around the world freely in first class. What part of life and death you don't understand? Just consult a dictionary, man.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:29Educator, do you know what happened to Sekuture after he spilled the beans in this televised program? He openly admitted what had happened and paid with his life.
Anywho, what did TPLF get that's new? Nada! Zilch! Abiy wanted to be on top. After two years of bloodshe,d suffering and distractions etc TPLF agreed to seat on top. But you are free to believe to have won the mega billion dollar lotto after the SA "peace deal" which in fact has many points that will lead to war.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:00Revelations, I couldn't see any clear substance in your argument below, so I will assume what you wanted to say in few points and address them as follow:
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:04Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
An honest answer may not be presented but all efforts to answers to the above question are welcomed.
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Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Obviously the low iq with this weyanay rodent is strong. Let's assume they were going to live lavish as you insinuate. Is that worth the death of hundreds of thousands of Tigrayans? Couldn't they have lived the same life with money and power before the war in your chigaram kilil? What have they accomplished that they couldnt have had? Reality is very different from your low iq weyanay propaganda. Once the dust settles Tigrayans will realise how much they have lost and will take it out on tplf and their cadres like you.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:47oh man.. they would be dead two years ago. Now they are alive. What did they get by fighting? LIFE. What kind of life? Life with money and power - luxurious life with freedom to roam around the world freely in first class. What part of life and death you don't understand? Just consult a dictionary, man.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:29Educator, do you know what happened to Sekuture after he spilled the beans in this televised program? He openly admitted what had happened and paid with his life.
Anywho, what did TPLF get that's new? Nada! Zilch! Abiy wanted to be on top. After two years of bloodshe,d suffering and distractions etc TPLF agreed to seat on top. But you are free to believe to have won the mega billion dollar lotto after the SA "peace deal" which in fact has many points that will lead to war.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:00Revelations, I couldn't see any clear substance in your argument below, so I will assume what you wanted to say in few points and address them as follow:
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:04Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.Revelations wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 15:18The items that seem to excite you in the agreement now were all under your control. Plus you physically lost Badme this time. Considering all the loss you incurred, what have you gained that makes be so jubilant about this "peace deal" which has real future war baked into it.
An honest answer may not be presented but all efforts to answers to the above question are welcomed.
Re: Question to TPLF members and cadres: What did you gain?
Are you insunuating Sekutere would be alive now if he didn't admit TPLF started the war? Whether Woyane shot the first bullet or not, Abiy and Isayas would start the war on Nov 5th, 6th, or around there no matter what - ask senator Coon. General Saere was killed in Addis in his home as a prelude to the war against woyanes. If your point is that woyanes could avoid this war if they submitted to Abiy's rule? Yes, I truely belive they could avoid the war. But they may not be able to avoid a fate like General Kinfe Dagne or Bereket Simon, or lidetu Ayalew who was jailed by the order of Isayas. Woyanes knew better than anyone what Isayas had planned for them. In light of that, I would say they took the right action to survive considering they have no interest other than self. I think you're trying to see the case as a moral person. But if you put yourself in their shoes and think as criminals as they are, greedy as they are and selfish as they are, then you would understand why the war was better for them than submitting to Mamo Killo and Isayas. Btw, Abiy and Isayas could avoid the war as well if they were good and wise, but they were driven by vengence and the desire for absolute power. Did they sacrificed hundreds of thousands of non Tigrayan? Yes, they did, and they don't care as long as they get what they wanted. Many generals and high ranking officers have perished from ENDf and Eritrean sides, but they are just sacrifices for the few in power.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 23:03What LIFE does Sekutere Getachew has, dear Educator? He admitted TPLF started the war and his life was ended. Tell the truth and be free.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:47oh man.. they would be dead two years ago. Now they are alive. What did they get by fighting? LIFE. What kind of life? Life with money and power - luxurious life with freedom to roam around the world freely in first class. What part of life and death you don't understand? Just consult a dictionary, man.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:29Educator, do you know what happened to Sekuture after he spilled the beans in this televised program? He openly admitted what had happened and paid with his life.
Anywho, what did TPLF get that's new? Nada! Zilch! Abiy wanted to be on top. After two years of bloodshe,d suffering and distractions etc TPLF agreed to seat on top. But you are free to believe to have won the mega billion dollar lotto after the SA "peace deal" which in fact has many points that will lead to war.
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 22:00Revelations, I couldn't see any clear substance in your argument below, so I will assume what you wanted to say in few points and address them as follow:
1- if you are saying the war was started by Woyanes, I respectfully disagree with that. It is only true if you want to believe the Mamo killo propaganda. I am not so naive to accept it. I like the analogy lidetu used to describe it: "if two people agreed to fight and stepped to the podium, would it matter who throws the firsst punch as to determine who is at falt for starting the fight?" You can refer to Senetor Coon's word what Mamo Killo said to him two weeks prior to the start of the war. Coon advised him not to start war with woynes and Mamo said he would finish it in six weeks. Now that is two weeks before November 4, 2020. If I were Woyane, that is exactly what I would do by taking preemptive strike to survive once the threat from Mamo Killo and Isayas is verified.
2- if Woyanes chose not to fight then and accept the threat with their hands tied to themselves, they would either find themseslves in kaliti or dead as Seyum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye. I still wonder why Isayas spared the life of Sibihat Nega. I think Sibhat is more valuable to Isayas alive than dead.
3- two years ago, woyanes were confined to Mekele with no possibility to venture outside even for medical treatment because the yellow helicopter was hovering above their heads and they were hated by the Tigray populatioin. Now they have the support of their people and the chance to travel in first class to Pretoria, Addis and Nairobi without fear and a garanted protection. They will soon come to Addis and reclaim their properties, banks and business empire (EFFORT and the likes). Once again, we will see them in Sheraton and high end hotels drinking Whisky and laying down with their prostitutes under the protection of the PP. All this in two years, from vanishing to flourishing.
Revelations wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:04Did the TPLF leaders to stay in power forever at any cost? Most definitely. Did it get that? Nope! Did they plan to hand Badme back according to the ruling and went to war to accomplish that? You seem to suggest it. But if you feel TPLF gained more than what it had before by starting this senseless war? If you believe it and this fantasy floats your boat in your imaginary lake, dude you go and float on!
Educator wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:40TPLF gained a lot. Before two years, whether they started throwing the first punch or not, they were about to be destroyed by Mamo Killo and Isayas. Now they achieved their warranty extension on life. They will be around for few or many more years. As to Badme, it was awarded to Eritrea 20+ years ago by international arbitration which woyane itself accepted gracefully. It was never vacated because Isayas knew there was no benefit whether Eritrea or Ethiopia controls that barren land as long as it was recognized by everyone it was Eritrean territory (smart guy).
Some people would question why so many people had to die in the last two years if all Woyanes wanted was extension of their life. Well, everyone makes sacrifices to gain something. Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to get blessing from God. The people who enlist to die, not only in Tigray but anywhere in this world, are worthless in the eyes of dictators and merchants of death. So if you think Woyanes or Mamo Killo cares about the death of so many, then you are wrong. Let alone for the benefit of longevity in life or power, people sacrifice others for a shifty dinner (ask hodam Amharas if you want more info on this).
So both Woyanes and satan Mamo Killo are the majority benefactors of the war and the peace agreement.
Sorry for interjecting, your title said your question was for specific groups.