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[info]

It looks like the government is not sending enough enforcement and air support. This means kobo and may be lalibela too may fall for a brief period.

It’s so sad though that lives from both sides are lost for this “game”.

[eden]

Just from this thread, you can tell the only appetite for war is from those with soft spot for OPDO/ PP and HGDEF. The rest is against war regardless of their differing outlooks.

[Weyane.is.dead]

Low iq weyanay rodent. Do you write just to satisfy your delusional brain? It was your weyane vermin who started the war and everyone knows it. Stop wasting your time trying to convince yourself otherwise.

Just from this thread, you can tell the only appetite for war is from those with soft spot for OPDO/ PP and HGDEF. The rest is against war regardless of their differing outlooks.

[eden]

I gave up on Misraq for long time due to her strong language and graphic presentations as well as failure to differentiate between leaders and people in her condemnations. But today, she showed she can be as logical and data driven thinker as Sarcasm and a few others. I just wish she resists her dark side and keep bringing out the best within her as it will light up the world we all live in.

So what would you say if I’m wrong and the government started the offensive which it seems to happen soon? All your one parameter based view fall apart.

It seems you watched too much ethio360 as your world is revolving around oromuma and nothing else completely ignoring the personal zeal of the PM to stay in power by any means etc.

I don't relay Ethio-360 view. That media is an extension of Digital Weyane for me. But their track record on the moves of Abiy Ahimed is accurate so far. If you despute that please make your point.

As to myself, i will follow my gut instincts based on the data i gathered so far. Abiy Ahmend is an imposter hence he lost a wide support base. Lets review a couple of the things he said since you suffer from "short memory", the term himself coined for people like you

1- "ጁንታው ዱቄት ሆኖዋል" said by Abiy Ahmed - Really?
2- "ጁንታው በጋንታ ደረጃ እንኩዋን ሃይል የለውም በዘራች ሁ አይደረስ" said by Birhanu Julla - Really?
3- "We Oromos are marching like elephant while our enemies (habeshas) walking like a tortoise" said by Abiy Ahmed in 2020 in Bale, Oromia.
4- "ስንኖር ኢትዮጵያዊ ስንሞት ኢትዮጵያዊ" said by Abiy Ahmed - Really?
5- "የትግላችን መዳራሻ ፊንፊኔን የኦሮምያ ማድረግ ነው" said by Abiy Ahmed ...is he not implementing that?
6- "ፖለቲካ ቁማር ነው፥፥ just like tigres created EPRDF and run the show, we created PP to serve OPDO" said by Shimelis Abdissa. didn't he said that?
7- "አዲስ አበባ ነዋሪ ኦሮሞ ጠል ነው" said by Abiy Ahmed. didn't he said that?
8- "The enemy conquered us 150 years ago when we were sleeping and fighting against each other." said by Abiy Ahmed in OPDO conference in Jimma 2019
9-"We crushed the enemy who crushed 150 years ago right at this spot ate finfine" said by shimelis abdisa
10-"The next 3000-5000 we Oromos will rule" said by Lencho Bati, 2019


i can go to hundred and thousands. ውታፍ ነቃይስ chose not to add the above parameters in the conflict equations and we know why

[info]

Government announced “tactical retreat” from kobo town.

[Misraq]

Government announced “tactical retreat” from kobo town.

ውታፍ ነቃይ Info,

So it didn't take two days to prove what I said was correct and what you said is bs. I have the script Abiy Ahmed follows. I can assure you that next week this time, the same news will be heard about Weldia & Laliballa, then a week later Gashena....and so on.

A government that has air force, drones, heavy weapons, tanks and a large number of personal cannot be overwhelmed by a rag tag selfie addicted TDF. Ask yourself on why TPLF cannot push an inch in the direction of Eritrea? All this drama is played by OPDO who sees Amharas as deadly eternal enemy. You will withdraw giving TPLF human wave as an excuse so that the land and people of Amharas can go through devastation and psychological blow. Two months before today, they were chasing and desarming Amhara FaNo for such preparation and if this doesn't awaken your frozen mind, you are dumber than even agamew Halafi and Etheoash.

It took 30 years for the Derg to buckle and fall apart facing countless adversaries in all directions. And this one?......

[info]

Government announced “tactical retreat” from kobo town.

ውታፍ ነቃይ Info,

So it didn't take two days to prove what I said was correct and what you said is bs. I have the script Abiy Ahmed follows. I can assure you that next week this time, the same news will be heard about Weldia & Laliballa, then a week later Gashena....and so on.

A government that has air force, drones, heavy weapons, tanks and a large number of personal cannot be overwhelmed by a rag tag selfie addicted TDF. Ask yourself on why TPLF cannot push an inch in the direction of Eritrea? All this drama is played by OPDO who sees Amharas as deadly eternal enemy. You will withdraw giving TPLF human wave as an excuse so that the land and people of Amharas can go through devastation and psychological blow. Two months before today, they were chasing and desarming Amhara FaNo for such preparation and if this doesn't awaken your frozen mind, you are dumber than even agamew Halafi and Etheoash.

It took 30 years for the Derg to buckle and fall apart facing countless adversaries in all directions. And this one?......

Are you saying the government fears the least militarized Amhara, the wollo, but supports the most militarized gondar Amharas? What kind of threat did the wollo Amhara ever posed to the government? You just don’t make any sense.

In fact it seems things are going exactly how I assumed. The government wants just to show the world who the real aggressor is and that this war was started not because the government entered Tigray but because TPLF attacked neighboring regions. That’s exactly what’s happening.

This will give the government ample justification to enter Tigray at least to Alamata may be more.

You are completely overlooking the dependency of this government on western money because you are wholy consumed with your little turf. In fact IMF debt relief team is due to arrive in Addis in the coming days. It seems the government doesn’t want to jeopardize all the positive progress it’s making with western institutions.

Just wait for few days and after all western media have reported how Tigray fighters entered to and attacked neighboring regions. Once the news of TPLF attacking neighboring regions is out I expect the offensive to start and all the short lived ጀጋኑ dance of TPLF supporters evaporate fast.

[DefendTheTruth]

Government announced “tactical retreat” from kobo town.

ውታፍ ነቃይ Info,

So it didn't take two days to prove what I said was correct and what you said is bs. I have the script Abiy Ahmed follows. I can assure you that next week this time, the same news will be heard about Weldia & Laliballa, then a week later Gashena....and so on.

A government that has air force, drones, heavy weapons, tanks and a large number of personal cannot be overwhelmed by a rag tag selfie addicted TDF. Ask yourself on why TPLF cannot push an inch in the direction of Eritrea? All this drama is played by OPDO who sees Amharas as deadly eternal enemy. You will withdraw giving TPLF human wave as an excuse so that the land and people of Amharas can go through devastation and psychological blow. Two months before today, they were chasing and desarming Amhara FaNo for such preparation and if this doesn't awaken your frozen mind, you are dumber than even agamew Halafi and Etheoash.

It took 30 years for the Derg to buckle and fall apart facing countless adversaries in all directions. And this one?......

Could you also say about what Shane (or Shanne, as some other call it) is saying about all that you scribbled here?

But even that scribble has won you a new friend (openly) from the likes of eden, from unexpected direction, yeah? She appreciated your "analysis", did you notice that?

[eden]

even that scribble has won you a new friend (openly) from the likes of eden, from unexpected direction, yeah? She appreciated your "analysis", did you notice that?

I have appreciated you in the past as well when your scribble made sense to me. You are all my friends whether you are at your highest or lowest.

DefendTheTruth,

May God bless your soul for saying this. We need more non Tigrian Eritreans and Ethiopians to tell the Tigrian rulers to sort out their issue that has as its root cause the 50 years Italian divide and conquer colonialism game.

For saying the below

They BOTH can't be the true winners of any war that is going to annihilate the other side of the same coin. They are destined to share many in common bound in common destiny.

Today I was watching where the leader of South Korea was pleading with the president of the USA to reach out and protect it from its northern cousin's danger of a possible annihilating war: but pause for a while and think about why?

Why should somebody going to annihilate the other side of its own? Naturally we can't explain with any sort of descent human logic this, there must have been something programmed artificially to cause this state of affairs.

If you are somebody who can think in a natural human logic, then you should go to your next neighbor and talk to him and settle any issue you may have with him, instead of pleading with a remote partner to come in and keep you protected.

I remembered the two sides of the Mereb river's natural cousins to also draw a lesson from the case of Korea and think more rationally and understand the simple fact that you can't win by annihilating your own other side, no matter how good you may succeed in achieving that goal.

Just my personal view.

[info]

The government is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. It’s all about convincing the international community that TPLF is attacking neighboring regions and is the clear aggressor.

Watch how many times both the Afar and Amhara region press releases mention the international community.

[Hawzen]

The government is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. It’s all about convincing the international community that TPLF is attacking neighboring regions and is the clear aggressor.

Watch how many times both the Afar and Amhara region press releases mention the international community.

Brother info,

Why do you think Afar region, Amhara region and the federal government press releases mention the international community so often??? Is it because as the great Thomas Sankara said 'he who feeds you, controls you' ? or there is something devastating coming towards TPLF's direction like including counter attacking all the way to Mekelle ????

If you ask me, it feels like something's brewing that leads to the annihilation of TPLF terrorist group.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

[info]

The government is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. It’s all about convincing the international community that TPLF is attacking neighboring regions and is the clear aggressor.

Watch how many times both the Afar and Amhara region press releases mention the international community.

Brother info,

Why do you think Afar region, Amhara region and the federal government press releases mention the international community so often??? Is it because as the great Thomas Sankara said 'he who feeds you, controls you' ? or there is something devastating coming towards TPLF's direction like including counter attacking all the way to Mekelle ????

If you ask me, it feels like something's brewing that leads to the annihilation of TPLF terrorist group.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

Brother Hawzen, it looks to me that the government this time wants to accomplish both tasks at the same. Destroying TPLF while keeping the western flow of money and debt relief intact. I don’t know if it can manage that though but it’s trying to look mature, responsible and peaceful.

Rushing to offensive means automatically entering Tigray and it would make the government the aggressor which in turn would damage the fragile relationship it has with the west.

It looks to me the government has learned something from the last time when it comes to diplomacy. Never show your real intentions, never look as an aggressor, always speak the language of peace and destroy your enemy only as a “self defense”.

It is preparing the ground work. The story is getting clearer. The TPLF aggression on the neighboring states and the pressure the neighboring states put on the federal government is being displayed. The states and the government many times are pleading the international community to tell TPLF to stop its aggression.

After the successful completion of this ground work, the self defense phase starts and entering Tigray will be a necessity and justified.

Though I understand it, I don’t fully agree with this plan though as it has some side effects such as making your army look like weak which can have negative implications in a tough neighborhood like ours. Besides, many innocent lives will be lost in the process. But this looks to me the government’s game plan to enter Tigray and destroy TPLF.

[Hawzen]

The government is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. It’s all about convincing the international community that TPLF is attacking neighboring regions and is the clear aggressor.

Watch how many times both the Afar and Amhara region press releases mention the international community.

........But this looks to me the government’s game plan to enter Tigray and destroy TPLF.

Great analysis as always!!! Amen to that!!

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

[ZEMEN]

The government is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. It’s all about convincing the international community that TPLF is attacking neighboring regions and is the clear aggressor.

Watch how many times both the Afar and Amhara region press releases mention the international community.

Brother info,

Why do you think Afar region, Amhara region and the federal government press releases mention the international community so often??? Is it because as the great Thomas Sankara said 'he who feeds you, controls you' ? or there is something devastating coming towards TPLF's direction like including counter attacking all the way to Mekelle ????

If you ask me, it feels like something's brewing that leads to the annihilation of TPLF terrorist group.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

Brother Hawzen: i agree with you. This is the first time the Government of Ethiopia to declare KOBO fall in the hands of the thugs. mind you the government said it before the thugs? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm is the word. I am selling something boooommmmmmmmmmm.

[info]

Even ENDF is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. The dependency of the government on western money is way over the top and absolutely unacceptable. It’s too much!

[Misraq]

Diplomatic War?

How do you win a diplomatic war? By appointing the likes of Fitsum Arega who can't utter two sentenses in english properly as ambasador in washington DC? Aye OPDO, you folks are worse than TPLF. Of all ambasaders mamush (abiy) appointed, only one speaks properly in international media. i.e the Ambasador at France. And even him is now ordered not to be on public news outlets. The mamush (cheqlaw) adminstration was greatly helped by the #NoMore diaspora movement last year but as a reward to these movements, cheqlaw released Sibhat Nega and co showing middle figure to everyone. Don't make us lough too much

[sarcasm]

Even ENDF is busy trying to win the diplomatic war. The dependency of the government on western money is way over the top and absolutely unacceptable. It’s too much!

It seems there's a great misconception in Ethiopia on what diplomacy is. Diplomacy is not superficiality. Diplomats are very intelligent professionals who are skilled in discovering the substances of the actions and speeches of entities. ENDF could say whatever they want to say in their presentations, the diplomats will look at ENDF's substance.

What is the substance of ENDF? It is that they are child killers. That is what the EU Foreign Office read from ENDF's actions. Checkout his twit in the weekend:


Reported air strikes against #Mekelle targeting civilians add to the numerous violations of international humanitarian law in #Tigray.

They cast a terrible shadow on the commitment taken by the Government of Ethiopia to engage in peace negotiations.


Josep Borrell Fontelles
@JosepBorrellF
High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy/Vice-President of
@eu_commission

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አሁንም፤ ሎጂክ ሆይ የት ነሽ?!

So the calculation of the federal government may be to force TPLF start a war by refusing to provide basic services and then show the world who is the clear agressor and finally occupy at least so called southern Tigray while still keeping the western money continue flowing.

Have these super intelligent federal strategists forgotten that forcing the start of a war will make you clear aggressor? Do they not know that forcing the start of a war is one million miles from negotiating in good faith?

Do you really think those who control the 'Western money' are one brain cell idiots who cannot understand cause and effect? Do those who control the 'Western money' have no idea of what negotiating in good faith means?

[sarcasm]

The main reason for Ethiopia's deplomatic failure - as told by Amb. Dina Mufti

[info]

ENDF spokesperson said that they are still in defensive mode and didn't yet get an order to launch an offensive but hints that a major offensive may come the moment the government gives orders. All signs indicate a major offensive which has its focus on reducing TPLF's military capability is about to launch. This implies federal forces inevitably entering proper Tigray and attacking TPLF's military and leadership. Mekele and other military bases could be main targets in the coming days and weeks.

[info]

PM Advisor claims TPLF is about to declare its withdrawal from Amhara region. If it’s true, it could be an indication of the defeat TPLF is experiencing on the battlefield especially on the western front. And the phrase “የአማራ ክልል ቀርቶ፤ ሌላ ዘፈን መጥቶ” indicates that the federal government will not be satisfied even if TPLF withdrew from Amhara region.

It was indicative from the attitude of the federal government before the start of this war that it wanted the TPLF to start this war. It seems it had some military goals in mind that it wanted to achieve. The TPLF as usual seem to jump on the bait and seem to be stuck, at least for now.

Of course TPLF’s withdrawal will put huge pressure on the government from the west to stop it’s operations.