[/quote]Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 19:25EPRDF,
Even though I suspect that you're a Tigrayan, when someone is right and makes sense, we should be able to admit that. This does appear to be a war between the two Abyssinian cousins/brothers, who have historically struggled for power [i.e. yohannes vs menelik, yohannes vs tewodros, so on and so forth]. As I said before, if they do not pose a threat to Oromo's, I see no reason for Oromo's to go fight and die for an useless cause [for us].
the oromo police are being called to join the OLA, to fight for their own oppressed people, as opposed to fighting for an unjust, useless cause-and I am seeing them taking heed and joining, while others surrender to save themselves.
Abdisa aka fiyameta, the Eritrean who pretends to be an Oromo:
SURE, anyone who disagrees with you and your views, must be an ''agame.'' Lol so the poorly trained forces are going to do what the army itself couldn't do? Yeah, okay. I already mentioned that, as well, that besides the children conscripts of the tplf, that the tigrayans appear to be highly motivated and have a cause, at least in their eyes, as opposed to the demoralized army who had to withdraw, and the special forces who are surrendering, being captured, etc. I know that, a lot of our eritrean brethren who blindly back their president, obbo isayas, cannot fathom that someone, who is not an agame, would have their own opinion AND BE ABLE to articulate why they have such a belief/position/view; but trust that, many, many Oromo's want nothing to do with this useless war. If most of the tplf elites are dead/captured/etc, what is the point of the war now? to hold onto the lands that amhara said was theirs? what business of ours is it, to get involved in boundary/land disputes?!
Hence why I said, minus the kids, the grown men and women, tend to appear to be, motivated and have a high morale.
WHETHER it's wrong or not, whether we agree or not, they feel like tigray and tigrayans are being/have been targeted for extermination, so they are fighting for survival.
Hence why, the entire tigray became a hostile area for the ENDF, forcing them to withdraw, because you cannot fight them all, on their own land, and expect to win-unless of course, you're an advocate for genocide on all Tigrayans, which I've seen a few amhara extremists call for/support.
mr or ms, mitmitaye, is addis/finfinne the entire country? we know for a fact, that abiy's cadres are forcefully sending oromo kids to go get poor training, and then go fight tigrayans. hopefully they either surrender and go back home, or join WBO/OLA.
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like you said ENDF pulled out from their region and now the fight is in the area where you would like to see the residents exterminated. We have witnessed who dose what in real time in Maikadra and no amount of sweeping the truth will change what already had happened. Perhaps you might have forgotten why this war started to begin with. While keeping munching on the real cause , the highly motivated army was decimated within two weeks with all the modern weapons at hand. Now you should go and ask your Generals and your palace holders what transpired after that.
We have seen the OLF murdering machine muzzling kids, civilians and cutting the belly of pregnant women while setting ablaze the whole city under the watchful eyes of what you call ENDF. That is what amounts to genocide!! The gov't is covering up for all the atrocities but time will tell if it will be remaining that way now that the crisis is fully blowing in front of your eyes left and right.
If you think that TPLF is fighting just to control a piece of Wello and Gondar lands, then it goes to show why the OLF way of thinking has always been defeated and its leaders change masters throughout their history.
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They had no choice, they could not sustain such a conflict. I never claimed what you said, but of course, you are unable to have a discourse/discussion, without lies/insults/etc.
Not surprised at, all.
I am sure that-atrocities were committed by both sides, on both people [tigray on amhara violence, and amhara fano/endf/others, on tigrayan violence], but of course, you want to bring them to justice, while claiming the members of your ethnicity are angels, infallible, and innocent?!
Ha! As for me, I want all, whether it be an Oromo, an Amhara, a Tigrayan, etc, to face justice if they have committed a war crime or any crime for that matter.
Yes, that two week war was waged, then what? Did it destroy the guerrilla war that was raging there? Or did it fuel it?
Guerrilla armies aren't the same as conventional forces, and are very difficult to beat, if not impossible.
I am talking about the average tigrayan woman and man, who picked up arms, to defend against, what they perceived to be an attack on their people and land, not the tplf.
Yeah sure, the OLF is so horrible, but let's be honest, you have no proof, other than those who like to lie and spread propaganda against those they disagree with politically/hate, the same way we saw the pastor daniel kibret and other amhara nationalists/activists saying ''hey they should use drones and bombs on the entire tigray,'' and so on.
but that's okay, right? since it's not amhara's being harmed, right?
Amhara's can defend their lands, right? You always brag about them on here, nonstop, so let them do so, help them with what you can, what I am saying is: Oromo's should not fight and die for land disputes/political rivalry in the north, let the northerners do that, as we focus on our own problems. It's quite simple. OLA of today ain't foolish like some of the ones of the past, they know better, and are building up their capacity daily, and are slowly but surely controlling rural areas in Oromia- they just took over small parts of bale recently, new units opening fronts in jimma-abiy's hometown and an area where the OLA historically wasn't active in, and so much more to come-stay tuned!!
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At least to me this sounds like the medieval era where people only took care of their homesteads and village matters not knowing during modern times 21st century even the whole world is said to be just one village. In Ethiopia, Ethiopians need to fight and defend the whole of Ethiopia and its people regardless of locations and regions where law, order and defense are needed. If peace and security happens to be violated like in the Somali region in the past, when lots of Oromos and Amharas were brutally killed and displaced. It is quite funny to say, "oh it is only the business of the Oromos and Amharas others need not intervene"
In the case of the current conflict it is the case of destabilizing and disintegrating Ethiopia using land as an excuse and a camouflage. Of course Amara nationalist are bragging too much just for the purpose of lifting up the fighting morals of their people specially during such difficult times.
Additionally and even tactically for Oromos who have multiple ethnic communities in their region and have boundaries with several countries it is fatal to be left out of this conflict which may determine the very fate of Ethiopia and Oromiyya itself. Only because you are such a nice angel and did not participate in the conflict may not mean that you will have peace on your soil where you happen to toil. The winner of the conflict and the visible and invisible forces behind them might in turn converge on you with all of their old and fresh experiences and capacities. If you want to have peace as a country you have to be ready for war and be able to make war to make peace possible.