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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 19:26

sun wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:05
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 18:52
abel qael wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 18:18
Oromos make way over 50% of cushtic people, thus all other cushitic ethnic groups added do not even equal to Oromos. Somalis are mostly cushitic but not as much as Oromos are and numerically they come as a very far second. Oromos are much purer cushites than all other cushites. Oromos are athletic, fit, smarter and most oromos have wavy hair and are chiseled in their facial features like their semitic cousins living north of Alewaha, River the border between Oromiyaa and Tigray.



You're overdoing it a bit, I guess! What are your measuring tools to dare to tell us such a crap that Oromo are purer than other Cushitic people!

FYI, Being Cushitic is purely from language perspective, and has nothing to do with physical traits, features, or appearances.
Ato abel qael is not always stating facts but mainly doing politics like always putting dissimilarities between Oromos and other close communities while inventing and exaggerating Oromo similarities with his own ethnic group since mamma Oromiyya is human and material resource rich. That is his way of creating coalitions and common objectives so as to ride back to the Menelik palace and say, "Shalom!" :P


Spot on!

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by sebdoyeley » 24 Jul 2020, 19:28

brother somali, you have some truth but you met Agame or Tigraens, when the are stripe necked from all know powers in Ethiopia. so as see now they are softened up, if you were met them on their heydays you wouldn`t write what you wrote right now. unless offcourse if you are brother or close relative to Abdi Ally :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:15
abel qael wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 16:53
Sadacha,
You really have no idea of who Tigreans are in this forum, if you think Tarik is Agame it is a slippery slope and no wonder if you think Andirtan is Agame. But trust me none of the people you call agame are Tigreans. Ethwar is Oromo, Tolcha is Oromo, and son on, but you call them agame. Abaymado is probably Elias Kifle himself... Abaymado lives in Ethiopia and Elias too.
Your friend Meshrefet must be worried about this. No Tigraway will declare genocide on Tigreans and rain insults on Tigreans at all. That should be foolish. Of course arterans always label anyone whom they do not like as Agame. If anybody insults Oromos, Amharu and ar'terans will simply label that person as agame in order to pit Oromos and Tigreans.

And this bantugudifecha says Qeerrroo are Tigreans and any qeerroo resolution is made by tigreans... that is intentional scapegoating of tigray and trying to deny oromo struggle its own legitimacy.




BTW:

Ham is the same as Cam.
Cam or Ham is the father of Cush, Canaan and mizraim.
Brothers of Ham/Cam are Japheth and Sem/Shem.
Thus semitic and cushitic people are children of very close relatives--- cushitics being the children of Ham , Ham being the middle?/first? brother of Sem and Japheth. I think Japheth is the father of Europeans and some Asians. Most Araabs are children of Canaan ( lightskinned brother brother of dark-skinned cush)
Israelites, including the Lion of Judah, or Jesus Christ, are children of Sem/shem las are most but not all Arabs and Tigrean Agazians.
Mizraim is the father of ancient Egyptians.
Cush's most important son was King Nimrod, the black man who is considered to be the father of all modern science and magic. he ruled an mid eastern Empire( including Babylon Greece, etc), an Empire that was bigger than Roman Empire. Finally he was killed by His grandfather Cam's/Ham's senile brother Shem/Sem due racial hate/bias and/ or envy.
Of course their father is Noah.




True! So many people who are not Tigrayan are called "Agame" on this forum, including the ones that Abel Qael has mentioned. It has become kind of customary to call anyone one doesn't agree with "Agame"! For instance, AbyssiniaLady called me "Agame" for over a decade, until a few months ago when she started calling me "Shabo", but finally settling with calling me "Somali imposter"!

Tigrayans on this forum are very few and are not hiding, so why call anyone "Agame". In my view, Any Tigrayan should not be called "Agame", as all Tigrayans are not from Agame!

Tigrayans, or Agames, if you like to call them are the least disrespectful on this forum despite taking in all the abuse language they're inflicted upon. i can even confidently say that they're more civilized than the majority of users, or losers may I say, on this forum.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 19:43

sebdoyeley wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:28
brother somali, you have some truth but you met Agame or Tigraens, when the are stripe necked from all know powers in Ethiopia. so as see now they are softened up, if you were met them on their heydays you wouldn`t write what you wrote right now. unless offcourse if you are brother or close relative to Abdi Ally :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:15
abel qael wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 16:53
Sadacha,
You really have no idea of who Tigreans are in this forum, if you think Tarik is Agame it is a slippery slope and no wonder if you think Andirtan is Agame. But trust me none of the people you call agame are Tigreans. Ethwar is Oromo, Tolcha is Oromo, and son on, but you call them agame. Abaymado is probably Elias Kifle himself... Abaymado lives in Ethiopia and Elias too.
Your friend Meshrefet must be worried about this. No Tigraway will declare genocide on Tigreans and rain insults on Tigreans at all. That should be foolish. Of course arterans always label anyone whom they do not like as Agame. If anybody insults Oromos, Amharu and ar'terans will simply label that person as agame in order to pit Oromos and Tigreans.

And this bantugudifecha says Qeerrroo are Tigreans and any qeerroo resolution is made by tigreans... that is intentional scapegoating of tigray and trying to deny oromo struggle its own legitimacy.




BTW:

Ham is the same as Cam.
Cam or Ham is the father of Cush, Canaan and mizraim.
Brothers of Ham/Cam are Japheth and Sem/Shem.
Thus semitic and cushitic people are children of very close relatives--- cushitics being the children of Ham , Ham being the middle?/first? brother of Sem and Japheth. I think Japheth is the father of Europeans and some Asians. Most Araabs are children of Canaan ( lightskinned brother brother of dark-skinned cush)
Israelites, including the Lion of Judah, or Jesus Christ, are children of Sem/shem las are most but not all Arabs and Tigrean Agazians.
Mizraim is the father of ancient Egyptians.
Cush's most important son was King Nimrod, the black man who is considered to be the father of all modern science and magic. he ruled an mid eastern Empire( including Babylon Greece, etc), an Empire that was bigger than Roman Empire. Finally he was killed by His grandfather Cam's/Ham's senile brother Shem/Sem due racial hate/bias and/ or envy.
Of course their father is Noah.




True! So many people who are not Tigrayan are called "Agame" on this forum, including the ones that Abel Qael has mentioned. It has become kind of customary to call anyone one doesn't agree with "Agame"! For instance, AbyssiniaLady called me "Agame" for over a decade, until a few months ago when she started calling me "Shabo", but finally settling with calling me "Somali imposter"!

Tigrayans on this forum are very few and are not hiding, so why call anyone "Agame". In my view, Any Tigrayan should not be called "Agame", as all Tigrayans are not from Agame!

Tigrayans, or Agames, if you like to call them are the least disrespectful on this forum despite taking in all the abuse language they're inflicted upon. i can even confidently say that they're more civilized than the majority of users, or losers may I say, on this forum.




Let's give the devil his due!

I only know them on this forum, and not in real life. To be honest, on this forum, they've been less abusive than many other forummers. I've been on this forum for over 15 years and know what i'm talking about! Abel Qael, who also uses a couple of other nicks, is the harshest one, but still he's far less abusive than many non Agames.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by sebdoyeley » 24 Jul 2020, 19:52

Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:43
sebdoyeley wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:28
brother somali, you have some truth but you met Agame or Tigraens, when the are stripe necked from all know powers in Ethiopia. so as see now they are softened up, if you were met them on their heydays you wouldn`t write what you wrote right now. unless offcourse if you are brother or close relative to Abdi Ally :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Let's give the devil his due!

I only know them on this forum, and not in real life. To be honest, on this forum, they've been less abusive than many other forummers. I've been on this forum for over 15 years and know what i'm talking about! Abel Qael, who also uses a couple of other nicks, is the harshest one, but still he's far less abusive than many non Agames.
who do you think the most abusive here? the Amhara or the Oromo?
the Eritreans are gentle by nature.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 19:53

True, they used to fa.rt loud all over the place when Meles, may he rot in hell, was running the show in Ethiopia, but still they were not very disrespectful. But, lately, pure and childish personal insults have become the daily staple of this forum!

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 20:03

sebdoyeley wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:52
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:43
sebdoyeley wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 19:28
brother somali, you have some truth but you met Agame or Tigraens, when the are stripe necked from all know powers in Ethiopia. so as see now they are softened up, if you were met them on their heydays you wouldn`t write what you wrote right now. unless offcourse if you are brother or close relative to Abdi Ally :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Let's give the devil his due!

I only know them on this forum, and not in real life. To be honest, on this forum, they've been less abusive than many other forummers. I've been on this forum for over 15 years and know what i'm talking about! Abel Qael, who also uses a couple of other nicks, is the harshest one, but still he's far less abusive than many non Agames.
who do you think the most abusive here? the Amhara or the Oromo?
the Eritreans are gentle by nature.



What I find funny with you is that you call me brother when you like my comment, but tell me to go look after camels in Somalia when my comment doesn't fit what you would like to read! Therefore, I leave others to answer your question!

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Sadacha Macca » 24 Jul 2020, 20:07

Obbo Abel wants to build an alliance, with us Oromos, because he may believe that the tegaru and oromo have common interests, common enemies, and so on.
In principle, I support it, because alliances change, but interests remain. Our problem as Oromos, has always been with the tplf and their hodam sellouts the opdo, not with the tigrayan people. OPDO enabled the tplf system to harm the oromo, so we cannot overlook the opdo and only blame the tplf, if we are to be fair and just. OPDO is who helped TPLF do what it did, in Oromia, and without OPDO, tplf would not have been able to rule as long, and the ANDM enabled the tplf as well; let's not pretend as if tplf had some huge million many army in amhara and oromia and elsewhere.
they had oromo and amhara sellout foot soldiers helping!
For example, Obbo Isayas of eritrea, is allying with abiy, who in turn is close to parties who oppose federalism, a system that the oromo, the sidama, the somali and others, support fully, in order to avoid the old failed way of governing ethiopia- the kifle hager days, the days of amhara elitist centralized rule.
Obbo Isayas, no doubt, wants revenge against his former comrade in arms, the tplf, i am not sure if he hates the tegaru as a whole; I'd hope not.
If we go by his words, he says his issue is with tplf elites, and not with the tegaru; which is fine by me.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 20:39

Sadacha macca,

Would you please enlighten me on the cause(s) of the late uprisal and revolt of Oromo people, or a group of Oromo people! What are they demanding!

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by sebdoyeley » 24 Jul 2020, 20:46

Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:39
Sadacha macca,

Would you please enlighten me on the cause(s) of the late uprisal and revolt of Oromo people, or a group of Oromo people! What are they demanding!
why do you think, it is bad to pull a camel? Camel is our national Arma or symbols.
at the same time, I don't remember that post?
you have been here for almost 15 years by your admission, so you should get used to it by now such thing.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Sadacha Macca » 24 Jul 2020, 20:58

Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:39
Sadacha macca,

Would you please enlighten me on the cause(s) of the late uprisal and revolt of Oromo people, or a group of Oromo people! What are they demanding!

To have an election, to let the Oromos, among others, to freely elect their leaders; as opposed to having dictators imposed upon us which is the usual Ethiopian way and a major reason why the countries backwards, dirt poor, and mired in conflict. if abiy is confident in his support base, in oromia, he would not delay or oppose elections. if you can let kids go back to school in ethiopia, then covid 19 cannot justify delaying elections; both are large gatherings in a sense!
You cannot have a peaceful country while keeping the very heart and backbone of the country, marginalized.
The only reason the OPDO was freed from being stooges and slaves of the TPLF, is because the Qeerroo fi Ummata Oromo, saved them, freed them, gave them the confidence to stop being the water carriers of the TPLF and to side with the Oromo nation.
They were created by others, to serve others [created by the TPLF, to serve them, to the detriment of the Oromos and others]; so it's not hard to believe that they want to serve new masters now [i.e. urbanized, extremist, Amhara ultra nationalists, who want to bring back the days of haile selassie].
To also, have oromo opposition leaders, such as that of the OFC freed, since they obviously were targeted as part of a bigger plan to attack oromo opposition, and deny the oromo any semblance of leadership that could resist the ever increasing tyrannical ways of the abiy regime.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Abere » 24 Jul 2020, 21:00

Do Cushitics have the culture of slaughtering or beheading other fellow human beings? Or decorating their foreheads by posting mutilated human genital? I am asking this just to know if there any Cushite in Sub-Saharan Africa that follow this harmful practice done by Aba Geda or Aba Violence. If there is any cultural affinity in the region there has to be a shared cultural trait. That can prove to satisfy the curiosity.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 21:05

sebdoyeley wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:46
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:39
Sadacha macca,

Would you please enlighten me on the cause(s) of the late uprisal and revolt of Oromo people, or a group of Oromo people! What are they demanding!
why do you think, it is bad to pull a camel? Camel is our national Arma or symbols.
at the same time, I don't remember that post?
you have been here for almost 15 years by your admission, so you should get used to it by now such thing.



Of course, we take pride in our camels in Somalia, and for sure, herding camels is less stressful than working in an office environment! I was just pointing out your conflicting attitude towards my comments.

Oh! sure, I'm used to the poetic language often used on this forum!

BTW, I think the only Amhara that's currently active on this forum is Revelations. There used to be a lot about 10 years ago, but it seems they've all vanished now. I stayed myself away from this forum for about 9 years due to the degrading quality of the forum, and I think it won't be long before I desert it again, but this time for good.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by sebdoyeley » 24 Jul 2020, 21:13

good luck, say hey to Seid Bare for me.
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 21:05
sebdoyeley wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:46
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:39
Sadacha macca,

Would you please enlighten me on the cause(s) of the late uprisal and revolt of Oromo people, or a group of Oromo people! What are they demanding!
why do you think, it is bad to pull a camel? Camel is our national Arma or symbols.
at the same time, I don't remember that post?
you have been here for almost 15 years by your admission, so you should get used to it by now such thing.



Of course, we take pride in our camels in Somalia, and for sure, herding camels is less stressful than working in an office environment! I was just pointing out your conflicting attitude towards my comments.

Oh! sure, I'm used to the poetic language often used on this forum!

BTW, I think the only Amhara that's currently active on this forum is Revelations. There used to be a lot about 10 years ago, but it seems they've all vanished now. I stayed myself away from this forum for about 9 years due to the degrading quality of the forum, and I think it won't be long before I desert it again, but this time for good.

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jul 2020, 21:16

Sadacha Macca wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:58
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 20:39
Sadacha macca,

Would you please enlighten me on the cause(s) of the late uprisal and revolt of Oromo people, or a group of Oromo people! What are they demanding!

To have an election, to let the Oromos, among others, to freely elect their leaders; as opposed to having dictators imposed upon us which is the usual Ethiopian way and a major reason why the countries backwards, dirt poor, and mired in conflict. if abiy is confident in his support base, in oromia, he would not delay or oppose elections. if you can let kids go back to school in ethiopia, then covid 19 cannot justify delaying elections; both are large gatherings in a sense!
You cannot have a peaceful country while keeping the very heart and backbone of the country, marginalized.
The only reason the OPDO was freed from being stooges and slaves of the TPLF, is because the Qeerroo fi Ummata Oromo, saved them, freed them, gave them the confidence to stop being the water carriers of the TPLF and to side with the Oromo nation.
They were created by others, to serve others [created by the TPLF, to serve them, to the detriment of the Oromos and others]; so it's not hard to believe that they want to serve new masters now [i.e. urbanized, extremist, Amhara ultra nationalists, who want to bring back the days of haile selassie].
To also, have oromo opposition leaders, such as that of the OFC freed, since they obviously were targeted as part of a bigger plan to attack oromo opposition, and deny the oromo any semblance of leadership that could resist the ever increasing tyrannical ways of the abiy regime.




Interesting to know! Thanks.

Can we say, then, that PM Abiy is an Amhara, or Habesha, in Oromo skin!

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Noble Amhara » 24 Jul 2020, 21:56

Add me to the Amhara list

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Re: Oromos are not Cushitc they are Omotic

Post by Zack » 25 Jul 2020, 13:10

Agame is a sub region of tigray but its derogatory term used for all tigrayans by their Eritrean cousins. I yet have to see a tigrayan who claims he is from the agame region though . Its quiet entertaining though to see the funny memes and the silly insults.

Back to the oromo subject I do agree cushites is not a pure ancesterial lineage. But a group of people who have close linguistic links. Even the habasha belong to this group if you ask me. The language of geez might of come from South Arabia. But the majority of habasha are indigenous to the horn of Africa. And maybe a small percentage has links with South yemen. Especially tigre and tigrinya and tigray.

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