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[banebris2013]

ጋላ ቢያጠፋም ባያጠፋም በቀን ሶስት ጊዜ መመከር ኣለበት የትባልው ያልምክኛት ኣይደለም ልካ

Lakeshore
Are you yet to see a doctor? The best advice you can give using your leprosy infected brain is how to be prostitute, beggar or MIKENYA. Do not even forget that it was you who came to gala land to beg, not the other way. The only thing beggar can say is thank you.

[Ethoash]

It is easy to say. If you people start to believe in evidence, mule have a chance to give birth. The dabtaras, and you biased historians can not be counted as evidence. The moment you start with your bogus 3000, it is obvious where you are going with it.
If you believe in evidence you have to differentiate between Abyssinian history, biblical history and ethiopian history.
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banebris2013

very good point but let me take it one step.. let even assumed those dabtaras telling the truth... their is zero impact in oromia if they rejected their history .. if they told them this is not my history.. what choice the Amhara have wage war to make the oromo accept their dabtara story.. my beef is this is very simple if u r historian u need this kind of conflict to earn money from your study otherwise how in hell u earn money if u r historian and if u cant create conflict... if there is no conflict no body call this historian for interview ...

to me all historian study .. and political study must be banned for next ten , 2o years until we become middle class income earner.. after that we can afforded some unemployed.... ይህንን አቻሜለህ የሚሉትን ጉድ ድንጋይ ማስፈለጥ ነበር። ጥቅም ላይ ዋል ብሎ። ለኔ ዘፋኝ፣ ተረት ተረት ባለታሪክ ፣ ድንቄም ፖለቲከኛ ።። ለፍላፊ ብቻ ስለሆነ ድንቄም ፖለቲከኛ ይባላል። በፖለቲካ ሳይንስ ተምሮ የትመረቅ ካለ አንድ ነገር ነው ግን ለፍልፎ አዳሪን በሙሉ ፖለቲከኛ ብሎ መጥራት ግን መቆም አለበት ። ፖለቲከኛ ከማለት ለፍልፎ አዳሪ ማለት ይቀላል። ጋዜጠኛ ጋ ስንመጣ መማር አለበት ካልተማረ ግን በወሬ አዳሪ ብለን መጥራት አለብን የጋዜጠኛን ስም ማራከስ የለብንም።

[banebris2013]

It is easy to say. If you people start to believe in evidence, mule have a chance to give birth. The dabtaras, and you biased historians can not be counted as evidence. The moment you start with your bogus 3000, it is obvious where you are going with it.
If you believe in evidence you have to differentiate between Abyssinian history, biblical history and ethiopian history.

banebris2013

very good point but let me take it one step.. let even assumed those dabtaras telling the truth... their is zero impact in oromia if they rejected their history .. if they told them this is not my history.. what choice the Amhara have wage war to make the oromo accept their dabtara story.. my beef is this is very simple if u r historian u need this kind of conflict to earn money from your study otherwise how in hell u earn money if u r historian and if u cant create conflict... if there is no conflict no body call this historian for interview ...

to me all historian study .. and political study must be banned for next ten , 2o years until we become middle class income earner.. after that we can afforded some unemployed.... ይህንን አቻሜለህ የሚሉትን ጉድ ድንጋይ ማስፈለጥ ነበር። ጥቅም ላይ ዋል ብሎ። ለኔ ዘፋኝ፣ ተረት ተረት ባለታሪክ ፣ ድንቄም ፖለቲከኛ ።። ለፍላፊ ብቻ ስለሆነ ድንቄም ፖለቲከኛ ይባላል። በፖለቲካ ሳይንስ ተምሮ የትመረቅ ካለ አንድ ነገር ነው ግን ለፍልፎ አዳሪን በሙሉ ፖለቲከኛ ብሎ መጥራት ግን መቆም አለበት ። ፖለቲከኛ ከማለት ለፍልፎ አዳሪ ማለት ይቀላል። ጋዜጠኛ ጋ ስንመጣ መማር አለበት ካልተማረ ግን በወሬ አዳሪ ብለን መጥራት አለብን የጋዜጠኛን ስም ማራከስ የለብንም።
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Ethoash,
The south has told the north that "we do not buy your teret teret". They were told clearly the south (oromo, somale, sidama, walita, etc.) have nothing to do with the 3000 bogus history. Ezaw tewshashu bibalu,altew alu. Min madreg yichalal tilaleh?

[DefendTheTruth]

There is no comparison between the intellectual giant, Lorate Tsegay G/Medhen and Achameleh. However, there is no denying the fact that Achamelh provides enough resources to back up his claim or counterclaim. I haven't found anyone worthy of his name who disproved Achamelh by providing counter resources to debunk his claim. It is not to say it isn't possible to but attempts have not been made so far to do that. Regarding Achameleh though I appreciate the resourcefulness of his argument points, I usually lose him though when he try to use his evidence to advance a narrow political agenda. To go back to Achallu , I don't expect him to know history at the level of a historian. We really don't know what motivated him to say what he said, but one thing is for sure, what he said was so preposterous he should have recognized the boldness of his lie while it was coming out of his mouth. Again that is not worrisome to a point because he is just one individual albeit a well-known one, however;to know a fertile ground for this kind of nonsense, to be taken seriously, has been prepared for many years,and that as long as one hates (along with a crowd) a targeted group of people and marks them as an enemy one can say whatever he wants and nobody questions the veracity of the truth. That is the scary reality in today's Ethiopia.

TGAA,

i tried to highlight the time dimension of his claim and said he is talking about today's or yesterday's events (these description were according Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's own time scale).

Ato Achamyeleh is trying to negate Hacalu's claim based on the events of today's morning or at best of yesterday. The Laureate said the 800 years when Saint Amhara, whom he said were the Agew people, migrated to the south was simply yesterday, after the major part of our longer history, and Achamyeleh is talking about what has allegedly happened before 400 or 300 years and trying to ridiclue with it the claim of Hacalu (which I already said based on ignorance, according to my understanding).

So, if we accept the principle of single source of truth, then there can't be two sources of truth and that single source of truth either lies in the claims of the late Laureate or in that of Achamyeleh, but can't be both at the same time). In that case you could have asked yourself how much truth Achamyeleh himself had before claiming "I haven't found anyone worthy of his name who disproved Achamelh by providing counter resources to debunk his claim".

Like I said before Ato Achamyeleh can find his comparison in the likes of Jawar Mohammed but not in the likes of the late Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin.

The choice is now ours, I think, because the Laureate has also indicated that there could be events of tomorrow which can pose a similar challenge to our long history and threaten our tomorrow. Ato Achamyeleh should have known it if he is indeed someone who has no counterpart in the releam of history.

[kibramlak]

Achamyeleh is tough to be disproved as his claims are based on impressive and precise collection of references. He is not "WOF zerash" and hearsay guy contrary to ignorant peoples like the OLF camp

[TGAA]

There is no comparison between the intellectual giant, Lorate Tsegay G/Medhen and Achameleh. However, there is no denying the fact that Achamelh provides enough resources to back up his claim or counterclaim. I haven't found anyone worthy of his name who disproved Achamelh by providing counter resources to debunk his claim. It is not to say it isn't possible to but attempts have not been made so far to do that. Regarding Achameleh though I appreciate the resourcefulness of his argument points, I usually lose him though when he try to use his evidence to advance a narrow political agenda. To go back to Achallu , I don't expect him to know history at the level of a historian. We really don't know what motivated him to say what he said, but one thing is for sure, what he said was so preposterous he should have recognized the boldness of his lie while it was coming out of his mouth. Again that is not worrisome to a point because he is just one individual albeit a well-known one, however;to know a fertile ground for this kind of nonsense, to be taken seriously, has been prepared for many years,and that as long as one hates (along with a crowd) a targeted group of people and marks them as an enemy one can say whatever he wants and nobody questions the veracity of the truth. That is the scary reality in today's Ethiopia.

TGAA,

i tried to highlight the time dimension of his claim and said he is talking about today's or yesterday's events (these description were according Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's own time scale).

Ato Achamyeleh is trying to negate Hacalu's claim based on the events of today's morning or at best of yesterday. The Laureate said the 800 years when Saint Amhara, whom he said were the Agew people, migrated to the south was simply yesterday, after the major part of our longer history, and Achamyeleh is talking about what has allegedly happened before 400 or 300 years and trying to ridiclue with it the claim of Hacalu (which I already said based on ignorance, according to my understanding).

So, if we accept the principle of single source of truth, then there can't be two sources of truth and that single source of truth either lies in the claims of the late Laureate or in that of Achamyeleh, but can't be both at the same time). In that case you could have asked yourself how much truth Achamyeleh himself had before claiming "I haven't found anyone worthy of his name who disproved Achamelh by providing counter resources to debunk his claim".

Like I said before Ato Achamyeleh can find his comparison in the likes of Jawar Mohammed but not in the likes of the late Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin.

The choice is now ours, I think, because the Laureate has also indicated that there could be events of tomorrow which can pose a similar challenge to our long history and threaten our tomorrow. Ato Achamyeleh should have known it if he is indeed someone who has no counterpart in the releam of history.

I completely agree with you on your assessment. In tranch warfare of ethnic politics Achamyeleh and Jawar can punch over their weight by accentuating certain aspects of history; however, they are not equipped to provide us with a holistic view of history that is nurturing and forward-looking as Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin has done.

[Ethoash]

Achamyeleh is the best Amhara can offer... but we r not talking about Amhara history we r talking about Ethiopian history...

just like Achamyeleh could u find me another ethnic to support Achamyeleh here say?

የአይጥ ምስክር ዲምቢጥ ማለት ይህ ነው። የአማራ ገለቱ አምጥተህ ተረት ተረት ህን በኦሮሞ ለመጫን መፈለግህ ምንም አልቀየምም። ግን ልብ አለህ ውይ ያለ ጉልበት ምናባህ አታመጣም ። ኦሮሞዎች የሚያምኑበት ታሪክ ሚኒልክ በአህያ ተጭኖ ልክ ዳውላ መምጣቱ ነው ። አለቀ ደቀቀ። በት ህምርት ቤታቸውም ይህንኑ ታሪክ ይማራሉ ምን አባህ ታመጣለህ ነው። አቻም የለህን ከመጥራት በስተቀር ። የሴት ልጅ ስም ያለውን ሉጢ የመስለ እንዴት ሰው ተረት ተረት ተምሮ ግዜውን ያጠፋል። ምን አለ በለኝ የኢትዬዽያ ሕዝብ ከተማረና ስራ ጋገኘ እርግፍ አርጎ ነው የሚጥላቹሁ እስከዛው ቀልዱ

[kibramlak]

ደደብ፣ what else do you need other than book references? Pathetic, bunch of traitors. Amhara is your nightmare, and will continue to be. Go and hung yourself

Achamyeleh is the best Amhara can offer... but we r not talking about Amhara history we r talking about Ethiopian history...

just like Achamyeleh could u find me another ethnic to support Achamyeleh here say?

የአይጥ ምስክር ዲምቢጥ ማለት ይህ ነው። የአማራ ገለቱ አምጥተህ ተረት ተረት ህን በኦሮሞ ለመጫን መፈለግህ ምንም አልቀየምም። ግን ልብ አለህ ውይ ያለ ጉልበት ምናባህ አታመጣም ። ኦሮሞዎች የሚያምኑበት ታሪክ ሚኒልክ በአህያ ተጭኖ ልክ ዳውላ መምጣቱ ነው ። አለቀ ደቀቀ። በት ህምርት ቤታቸውም ይህንኑ ታሪክ ይማራሉ ምን አባህ ታመጣለህ ነው። አቻም የለህን ከመጥራት በስተቀር ። የሴት ልጅ ስም ያለውን ሉጢ የመስለ እንዴት ሰው ተረት ተረት ተምሮ ግዜውን ያጠፋል። ምን አለ በለኝ የኢትዬዽያ ሕዝብ ከተማረና ስራ ጋገኘ እርግፍ አርጎ ነው የሚጥላቹሁ እስከዛው ቀልዱ

[Selam/]

Woyane tattler - I thought you would have improved your English and learned Oromiffa by now. You’re still snooping around with your half middle-school English and half Amharic. How can one advocate for elimination of the latter and yet can’t communicate without it? What a knob-head mfkr. KIFU!

Achamyeleh is the best Amhara can offer... but we r not talking about Amhara history we r talking about Ethiopian history...

just like Achamyeleh could u find me another ethnic to support Achamyeleh here say?

የአይጥ ምስክር ዲምቢጥ ማለት ይህ ነው። የአማራ ገለቱ አምጥተህ ተረት ተረት ህን በኦሮሞ ለመጫን መፈለግህ ምንም አልቀየምም። ግን ልብ አለህ ውይ ያለ ጉልበት ምናባህ አታመጣም ። ኦሮሞዎች የሚያምኑበት ታሪክ ሚኒልክ በአህያ ተጭኖ ልክ ዳውላ መምጣቱ ነው ። አለቀ ደቀቀ። በት ህምርት ቤታቸውም ይህንኑ ታሪክ ይማራሉ ምን አባህ ታመጣለህ ነው። አቻም የለህን ከመጥራት በስተቀር ። የሴት ልጅ ስም ያለውን ሉጢ የመስለ እንዴት ሰው ተረት ተረት ተምሮ ግዜውን ያጠፋል። ምን አለ በለኝ የኢትዬዽያ ሕዝብ ከተማረና ስራ ጋገኘ እርግፍ አርጎ ነው የሚጥላቹሁ እስከዛው ቀልዱ

[Ethoash]

ደደብ፣ what else do you need other than book references? Pathetic, bunch of traitors. Amhara is your nightmare, and will continue to be. Go and hung yourself

i already told u we r talking about Ethiopian history if that the case just like Amhara Achamyeleh find me an oromo Achamyeleh , golden Achamyeleh, Somali Achamyeleh, Afar Achamyeleh who support ..Amhara Achamyeleh ተረት ተረት ።

all the bookish men u can find is an Amhara historian then sorry they r only good for Amhara history not for Ethiopian history .. u want Ethiopian history get me an Ethiopian historian ... forget Achamyeleh...
እንዴት ተብሎ ነው የውንድ ልጅ ስም አሻም የለህም ተብሎ የሚውጣለት። ወንድ ልጅ በመልኩ አይደለም መስሎኝ ግርማ ሞገሱ የሚለካው ። እነዚህ ግን የሶስተኛው ወስብ ይመስል የወንድ ልጅ መልኩ አቻም የለው በለው ማውጣት በህግ መከልከል ነበረበት። ተመልከቱት ሴታሴት የመስላ ሉጢ አርጎ ፂሙን በፋሽን ተስርቶት የምን ጉድ መጣብን።

[kibramlak]

አንተ የሀሳብ ጎደሎ፣ እንደሱ ሙሉ አለመሆንህ አናደደህ አደል ?
ቀላል እኮ ነው፣ ጭንቅላት ቢኖርሽ አንችም በእውቀት disprove ማድረግ ነበረብሽ፣፣ ግን ምን ታደርጊዋለሽ፣ ጭንቅላትሽ ጭቃ ብቻ ነው፣ ሀጫሉ በእንች አምሳል የተቀረፀ ከብት ሰሆነ አቻሽ አሱ ነው፣፣

ገቢቶ ደናቁርት??

ደደብ፣ what else do you need other than book references? Pathetic, bunch of traitors. Amhara is your nightmare, and will continue to be. Go and hung yourself

i already told u we r talking about Ethiopian history if that the case just like Amhara Achamyeleh find me an oromo Achamyeleh , golden Achamyeleh, Somali Achamyeleh, Afar Achamyeleh who support ..Amhara Achamyeleh ተረት ተረት ።

all the bookish men u can find is an Amhara historian then sorry they r only good for Amhara history not for Ethiopian history .. u want Ethiopian history get me an Ethiopian historian ... forget Achamyeleh...
እንዴት ተብሎ ነው የውንድ ልጅ ስም አሻም የለህም ተብሎ የሚውጣለት። ወንድ ልጅ በመልኩ አይደለም መስሎኝ ግርማ ሞገሱ የሚለካው ። እነዚህ ግን የሶስተኛው ወስብ ይመስል የወንድ ልጅ መልኩ አቻም የለው በለው ማውጣት በህግ መከልከል ነበረበት። ተመልከቱት ሴታሴት የመስላ ሉጢ አርጎ ፂሙን በፋሽን ተስርቶት የምን ጉድ መጣብን።

[Ethoash]

አንተ የሀሳብ ጎደሎ፣ እንደሱ ሙሉ አለመሆንህ አናደደህ አደል ?
ቀላል እኮ ነው፣ ጭንቅላት ቢኖርሽ አንችም በእውቀት disprove ማድረግ ነበረብሽ፣፣ ግን ምን ታደርጊዋለሽ፣ ጭንቅላትሽ ጭቃ ብቻ ነው፣ ሀጫሉ በእንች አምሳል የተቀረፀ ከብት ሰሆነ አቻሽ አሱ ነው፣፣

ገቢቶ ደናቁርት??

kibramlak ኪብራምላክ

አፍ ብቻ ስላለህ መናገር የለብህም ። ዝም ማለትም ትችላለህ። የኦሮሞ ባለታሪክ አዋቂ ስለ አፃ ሚኒሊክ የምናገር የሚደግፍ ካመጣህልኝ አምጣልኝ ያለበለዚያ አፍህን ለጉም።

መቼም አንተም አተደፍረኝም ያንን አሳማ ሁለት ሚሊዬን ብር መንገድ ላይ ባነነብኝ ያለውን እንዳታመጣልኝ ። እሱ የመስሉ ብዙ ኦሮምኝ የማይችሉ አመራናይዝድ የሆኑ አሉና።

[kibramlak]

ሳስብሽ የዶሮ ጭንቅላት ያላት እማይገባት ሴት ትመስያለሽ፣፣
አንች ባልሽው ልሂድልሽና እኔ አቻምየለውን አቀረብኩ፣፣ እስኪ እንችላለን ሰው ጥሪ ባንኮች ጎራ የአቻም የለውን claim disprove የሚያደርግ፣፣

ካመጣሽ ውርድ በእኔ ይሁንብኝ፣፣ ግን ያው አይኖርሽም፣፣

እስክታመጭ፣ አዲዮስ

አንተ የሀሳብ ጎደሎ፣ እንደሱ ሙሉ አለመሆንህ አናደደህ አደል ?
ቀላል እኮ ነው፣ ጭንቅላት ቢኖርሽ አንችም በእውቀት disprove ማድረግ ነበረብሽ፣፣ ግን ምን ታደርጊዋለሽ፣ ጭንቅላትሽ ጭቃ ብቻ ነው፣ ሀጫሉ በእንች አምሳል የተቀረፀ ከብት ሰሆነ አቻሽ አሱ ነው፣፣

ገቢቶ ደናቁርት??

kibramlak ኪብራምላክ

አፍ ብቻ ስላለህ መናገር የለብህም ። ዝም ማለትም ትችላለህ። የኦሮሞ ባለታሪክ አዋቂ ስለ አፃ ሚኒሊክ የምናገር የሚደግፍ ካመጣህልኝ አምጣልኝ ያለበለዚያ አፍህን ለጉም።

መቼም አንተም አተደፍረኝም ያንን አሳማ ሁለት ሚሊዬን ብር መንገድ ላይ ባነነብኝ ያለውን እንዳታመጣልኝ ። እሱ የመስሉ ብዙ ኦሮምኝ የማይችሉ አመራናይዝድ የሆኑ አሉና።

[Ethoash]

ሳስብሽ የዶሮ ጭንቅላት ያላት እማይገባት ሴት ትመስያለሽ፣፣
አንች ባልሽው ልሂድልሽና እኔ አቻምየለውን አቀረብኩ፣፣ እስኪ እንችላለን ሰው ጥሪ ባንኮች ጎራ የአቻም የለውን claim disprove የሚያደርግ፣፣

ካመጣሽ ውርድ በእኔ ይሁንብኝ፣፣ ግን ያው አይኖርሽም፣፣

እስክታመጭ፣ አዲዮስ

Kibarmalak,

if u want to know abut PM MELES after 100 years would u ask one Golden historian or one Amhara or oromo historian or you ask all of them and you take the avarage..

if u r asking only the golden historian and think what he is telling u is truth because it is written in the book u must be one idiot Amhara .. i have no time to waste have a nice life.