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[Awash]

MaTit,
What about the Agame ruling Eritrea.

[YAY]

Dear Abaymado: Could you show us a map that shows that Eritrea was 100% part of Ethiopia 200 years ago?

How can Eritrea be 100% part of Ethiopia 200 years ago? It did not come into existence then. Let alone Eritrea, the present Etiyopiya was known, then, as Abyssinia, and it was much smaller in area than it is now. You must be mixing up different facts and confusing yourself and others. How could even Abyssinia own Eritrea 200 years ago while Eritrea, as a political/territorial entity, existed since 1890? I would reverse the question you yourself asked: Can you substantiate to us with full credible evidence which shows that Eritrea was 100% part of the Etiyopiyan or Abyssinian or Aksumite empires 200+ years ago? How could you make Eritrea exist retro-actively, as some Etiyopiyans wrongly do?

Well, I can see you are hysterical. If you came with flimflam discourse, I can definitely say: Eritrea was 100% part of Ethiopia. We haven’t heard any country named Eritrea, say 200 years ago. Can you substantiate us with full evidence which shows Eritrea was an independent nation? What was its relation with its neighbor Ethiopia? Who was your king? For sure, you have not, assss holllle!
All we know that Ethiopian kings including king Dawit made campaign to Red sea to stop intrusion of outsiders. As a result, one of our kings sacrificed.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Well, I can see you are hysterical. If you came with flimflam discourse, I can definitely say: Eritrea was 100% part of Ethiopia. We haven’t heard any country named Eritrea, say 200 years ago. Can you substantiate us with full evidence which shows Eritrea was an independent nation? What was its relation with its neighbor Ethiopia? Who was your king? For sure, you have not, assss holllle!
All we know that Ethiopian kings including king Dawit made campaign to Red sea to stop intrusion of outsiders. As a result, one of our kings sacrificed.

First of all, was There a country by the name Ethiopia to begin with! And who is Ethiopian, is Ethiopian a nationality, ethnic group or citizenship?

And no "Ethiopian" King never and ever made a compaign in red sea. Perhaps you are confusing lake tana with the red sea

[Awash]

YOYO,
Wedi komarit is cento per cento

[Abaymado]

Sometimes it is very hard to teach people with no traces of knowledge. But it is my pleasure to elucidate my Eritrean dumb assss as much I can. I doubt there is enough room or space in this forum to handle all evidences we have. But I will try to make short and precise as possible.

1 There is book “Ethiopia” written by Philip Briggs which has great exposition about the relation between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Besides it narrates about emperors of Ethiopia for the last hundred years. Starting from page 49-51, it says:

“In early 1320s, Sultan Haqad-Din of Ifat, fed up with the expansionist policies of the Abyssinians, launched a full scale religious war on his infidel neighbors. This campaign met with considerable success prior to 1328, when Emperor Amda seyon I defeated Haqad – Din in battle at Zeila. The vengeful Abysinian Emperor and his army proceeded to pillage Zeila, looting its immense stashes of gold, silver and other treasures, before running amok in several other Islamic regions and razing the towns, killing their inhabitants, and looting their livestock and other possessions. The embittered Muslims of Ifat retreated to [deleted] their wounds , but at the turn of the century they launched a fresh series of attacks on the Christian highlanders under Sultan Sa’ad al Din II, who was eventually killed in battle by emperor Dawit in 14o3, on an offshore island near Zeila that still bears his name. the Ifat Sulatanate fell into decline following Sa’ad al Din’s death, and most of its leaders fled across the Gulf of Aden to take temporary refuge in Yemen. ”

You can find the this in:
https://books.google.com.et/books?id=gU ... ea&f=false

This is just to refresh your mind especially targeted for the stuuupid Deqi arawit who said that Ethiopian emperors had no chance to control the red sea areas. From excerpt we can see that the Ifat sultanate fled to Yemen. This means that more or less Ethiopian and Eritrea were one, because the sultanate fled to Yemen.

2 https://www.jstor.org/stable/43663310?seq=1
and there is also excerpt taken from Franz Amadeus Dombrowald in the title “some ideas about the historical role of Ethiopia’s access to the Red sea” which says: “… Aksum was able to accrue wealth through its grasp on the port of Adulis on the Red Sea, embedded in the trade between North Africa, Arabia, and India, which also provided it with control over trade from the interior.”

And also he says “… In 1434, Zara Yaqob came to power and fought vigorously to secure access to the sea, creating the Ethiopian office of Bahr Negash (ruler of the sea).”

3 Taddese tamrat in his book discusses about emperor Dawit’s campaign to Egypt traversing Red Sea.
“Dawit I[1] (Ge'ez: Ge'ez: ዳዊት dāwīt, "David") was Emperor (nəgusä nägäst) (1382 – 6 October 1413) of Ethiopia, and a member of the Solomonic dynasty. He was the younger son of Newaya Krestos.

Taddesse Tamrat discusses a tradition that early in his reign, Dawit campaigned against Egypt, reaching as far north as Aswan. In response, the Emir forced the Patriarch of Alexandria, Matthew I, to send a deputation to Dawit to persuade him to retire back to his kingdom. Taddesse concludes, "There seems to be little or no doubt that, on the eve of the advent of the Burji dynasty of Mamluk Egypt, King Dawit had in fact led his troops beyond the northern frontiers of his kingdom, and created much havoc among the Muslim inhabitants of the area who had been within the sphere of influence of Egypt since the thirteenth century."[2] The Emperor apparently had a much friendlier relationship with the Sultan's successor, for according to the medieval historian al-Maqrizi, Dawit sent 22 camels laden with gifts to Berkuk, the first Sultan of the Burji dynasty.”

Reference: Taddesse Tamrat, Church and State in Ethiopia (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1972), p. 255
J. Spencer Trimingham, Islam in Ethiopia (London: Geoffrey Cumberlege for the University Press, 1952), p. 74 and note explains the discrepancy in the sources; some historians pick one of the two possible dates (e.g. Paul Henze selects 1403 in Layers of Time, A History of Ethiopia [New York: Palgrave, 2000], p. 67) without even mentioning the problem.)

This piece tell us how Eritrea was under Ethiopian kingdom
“The Emperor Dawit was an enthusiastic Christian. He dealt with a revolt of the Beta Israel in Tigray, and encouraged missionary work in Gojjam. According to E. A. Wallis Budge, during Dawit's reign, a piece of the True Cross arrived in Ethiopia.[9] He also made endowments to the Ethiopian Church: three charters survive of grants he made of lands in Wolqayt, Serae, Adiyabo, Shire, Addi Arkay, northern Semien, the Gar'alta, Manbarta, and Karnesem which lies north of present-day Asmara”


Reference:
1) Taddesse Tamrat, Church and State in Ethiopia (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1972), p. 255
2) Jacques Mercier, "Ethiopian Art History" in Ethiopian Art: The Walters Museum (London: Third Millennium, 2001), p. 51.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aethiopian_Sea

4 “The second half of the ninth century seems to have been a period of revival for the Christian kingdom of Ethiopia. The damage done to its economic life by the rapid expansion of Islamic power in the Near and the Middle East had not destroyed Aksum altogether. It had only weakened it. Unable to maintain its usually strong frontier garrisons, Aksum had lost extensive territories on the Red Sea coast as well as along the Beja borderlands in the north. Furthermore, the areas which had long been conquered and incorporated into the empire beyond the Tekeze river in the west – notably the Walqayt and probably also the ancient Samanoi – had apparently broken off and regained their independence. These calamities had befallen the Christian empire of Aksum in rather rapid succession, following upon the rise of Islam and the eventual control of the Red Sea trade by Muslim powers and merchants. All this seems to have brought about a certain degree of political disintegration and a decisive weakening of the central institutions of the state for a period of over two centuries. But when, in the last quarter of the ninth century, we begin to have a few literary and traditional references to the Ethiopian region, it becomes very clear that the Christian state had definitely survived all these vicissitudes in the highland areas of southern Eritrea, Tigre, Lasta and Angot. These areas form the high ridge which separates the basins of the numerous rivers flowing in the direction of the Nile and the Red Sea, and as such they constitute a compact geographical unit.”

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/ca ... story-of-a
By Taddesse Tamrat, Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
• Edited by Roland Oliver
• Publisher: Cambridge University Press
• DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CHOL9780521209816.004
• pp 98-182

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“Abyssinia
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The Christians retreated into what may be called Abyssinia, an easily defensible, socially cohesive unit that included mostly Christian, Semitic-speaking peoples in a territory comprising most of Eritrea, Tigray, and Gonder and parts of Gojam, Shewa, and Welo. For the next two centuries Abyssinia defined the limits of Ethiopia’s extent, but not its reach, for the Christian highlands received the hinterland’s trade in transit to the Red Sea and the Nile valley.”
https://www.britannica.com/place/easter ... /Abyssinia

Don’t revert to me unless you perusal every and each lines rigorously.
To summarize, there is not enough space to accommodate all our evidences.

[MatiT]

The real map of Ethiopia in Hailaselade office on the wall.
.https://www.facebook.com/10001014673337 ... 879034326/

[MatiT]

The dream of abay ag@ames tegray map with Assab
https://www.facebook.com/10000032111092 ... 409801201/

[MatiT]

Ethiopian 1883 map.
.https://www.facebook.com/642589073/post ... 800689074/