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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Cigar » 15 Dec 2019, 19:53

You fa*g*got weyaneremoval focus.
Don't venture all over.
You accused me as if I wrote the article and even went as far as I am degrading Ethiopia for posting what I read just like you and I told you to sit your gaped a*as infront of your computer and lodge your complaint to the entity who wrote it, which abc.
And Eritrea doesn't only belong to our tegadelties you moron.
They faught and thousands died and maimed also for the sake of the yet unborn Eritreans and for the millions who didn't raise arms for different reasons.
And all the millions who didn't raise arms also have the obligation to defend what our tegadelties passed on.
Sh*it head, why are wasting your time on Eritrea's issues anyways?
Go to mekele and dig out your coward thugs out of the holes they are hiding. If you don't they will soon be suffocated to death.
Qondaf, qorbae, abaq, qomal, wedi gahba, assaw, megal, chenawi, wrinkled, tegwar mitra sherm*uta agame.
You know where I sharpen the craw bar I rape and molest your daughter, your wife, your sister, your mom and your grandmother?
In your mom's rough mitree.
Why don't you make good out of your mom's mitree?
You can go in your town mekele households and scream loud that you have a special equipment to sharpen knives, scissors, machetes and axes.
Easy money.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by pastlast » 15 Dec 2019, 20:05

You have no rights to talk about Eritrea...you are a traitor and a childrapist! I will quite be willing to execute you with much pain in your body! You deserve a torturous ending! You are a Traitor and a Fcking Piece of Schit childrapist! You are done sharmuuta! Also your rights in the West will be Ignored when you are going to be Executed! Remember Dawit isak, you will get the same treatment as him..your Western citizenship means nothing, you Traitor!

EXECUTION LOCATION: TBD
EXECUTION DATE: You won't Know!
Cigar wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 19:53
You fa*g*got weyaneremoval focus.
Don't venture all over.
You accused me as if I wrote the article and even went as far as I am degrading Ethiopia for posting what I read just like you and I told you to sit your gaped a*as infront of your computer and lodge your complaint to the entity who wrote it, which abc.
And Eritrea doesn't only belong to our tegadelties you moron.
They faught and thousands died and maimed also for the sake of the yet unborn Eritreans and for the millions who didn't raise arms for different reasons.
And all the millions who didn't raise arms also have the obligation to defend what our tegadelties passed on.
Sh*it head, why are wasting your time on Eritrea's issues anyways?
Go to mekele and dig out your coward thugs out of the holes they are hiding. If you don't they will soon be suffocated to death.
Qondaf, qorbae, abaq, qomal, wedi gahba, assaw, megal, chenawi, wrinkled, tegwar mitra sherm*uta agame.
You know where I sharpen the craw bar I rape and molest your daughter, your wife, your sister, your mom and your grandmother?
In your mom's rough mitree.
Why don't you make good out of your mom's mitree?
You can go in your town mekele households and scream loud that you have a special equipment to sharpen knives, scissors, machetes and axes.
Easy money.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Dec 2019, 20:37






Garment workers at Hawassa Industrial Park

$26 a month: Ethiopians are being paid world's lowest wages to make your Calvin Kleins

THURSDAY 9 MAY 2019

By James Purtill

Ethiopia is trying to become the new Bangladesh of garment factory labour by promising the lowest wages in the world, but the workers themselves report they're struggling to survive on US$26 a month while stitching clothes for Calvin Klein, H&M and other brands.

A study from New York University's Stern Center for Business and Human Rights, released this week, tells an old story: the hidden cost of the fashion industry.

It's also a classic story of neoliberal economic development, one that's been played out countless times since the 1990s: An impoverished country seeks foreign investment by declaring itself 'open for business', and offers up a vast and willing labour force.

Global capital, forever scouring the world for a competitive advantage, sets up shop: Factories are built, and young uneducated women are recruited from agricultural villages.

In 2015-16, Ethiopia built the state-owned Hawassa Industrial Park, located 140 miles south of the capital of Addis Ababa. The park currently has 25,000 employees producing garments for global brands also including Levi's, Guess, and Tommy Hilfiger.

An Ethiopian government brochure for potential foreign investors advertised:
Cheap and skilled labor: 1/7 of China and 1/2 of Bangladesh.
In fact, the labour would be even cheaper: Workers are being paid $26 a month, almost a quarter of the $95 a month minimum wage in Bangladesh.


Supplied: Stern Centre

The government based this figure, which was then factored into business plans, on the amount it paid its own floor sweepers - as the report points out, this is an unfair and arbitrary comparison for sewing-machine operators employed by foreign manufacturers.

Some workers told the authors of the report the government-employed job screeners sent to small towns and villages promised considerably more than $26 a month.
I thought the salary would be much higher,
one worker said.
I was not told the truth.
Meanwhile, the influx of workers has driven up the cost of accommodation. A single bare room within a few kilometres of the park costs about $52 a month.

The report states:
One young woman showed us the concrete ground-floor room she and three fellow workers rent from a homeowner. There is no toilet, only an open-air latrine nearby. The woman said she and her roommates work different shifts, and she'd had some of her belongings stolen. Sometimes, she added, there is no food left for her when she returns from the factory. All four women sleep on thin mattresses on the floor, and when it rains, water seeps into the living space. We heard from others at the park that some employers hand out plastic sheets, which employees place between their mattresses and the concrete floor in an attempt to stay dry.
An October 2017 survey told of workers fainting from hunger, as well as
being too tired from walking three hours a day to come to work and to go back home [and] the lack of energy and fainting due to the workers not eating properly because they cannot afford to eat two meals per day.
'It's okay to be a little bit late to work'

Workers coming from family farms struggled to adjust to an economic system within which they were considered units of labour, and which was geared towards efficiency and production:
Unfamiliar with industrial custom, they don't understand why they would be disciplined for lateness, absenteeism, or chatting with workstation neighbors at the expense of completing their sewing tasks - all behaviors that might be acceptable in a family-agricultural setting.
A significant percentage of workers said they did not believe there would be problems for the factory if they missed working days and also said that they believe it is okay to be a little bit late to work.
Frustration over their pay, combined with homesickness and other unfavorable aspects of factory life, has led to a sense of alienation and lack of commitment to working productively.
And so they quit.

During its first year of operation in 2017-2018, overall attrition hovered around 100 per cent, meaning that, on average, factories were replacing all of their workers every 12 months.

Some factories have been running at 15 per cent efficiency.


Hawassa industrial park.
Supplied: Enterprise Partners


Hawassa employees
Supplied: Enterprise Partners


The Stern Center study does not accuse the brands of using sweatshop labour:
Ceilings are high, lights bright, and ventilation more than adequate.
Indeed, Ethiopia hoped to shift manufacturing away from Bangladesh with its lax building safety standards:
The Rana Plaza disaster, a factory collapse that killed more than 1,100 people in Bangladesh in April 2013, reinforced PVH's determination to start anew in Africa,
the study says.

PVH was among the first to move. The US-based company is one of the world's largest apparel chains, with labels such as Calvin Klein, Izod and Tommy Hilfiger, and operates more than 2,000 factories in more than 40 countries. It has an annual revenue of $9.7 billion.

Instead of sweatshops, the story of the Ethiopian garment industry is more mundane and perhaps disconcerting: It's the logical result of a system that rewards enormously wealthy companies to seek out the cheapest source of manufacturing.

Staggeringly low wages was the reason brands came to Ethiopia, but the global investment has not translated into prosperity for the employees.

'Generational sacrifice' to build industrial base

Backers of the industrial park say some degree of "generational sacrifice" needs to take place in Ethiopia as the country develops economically.

They say today's workers likely will have to endure exceptionally low wages while they accumulate industrial skills and achieve productivity levels that in the future will bring them, and their children, higher pay and better circumstances.

This has happened in China, which started with t-shirts in the 1990s, and has now built a prolific apparel sector. The country eventually diversified into manufacturing other goods, like mobile phones. Its success is one reason companies are going elsewhere for cheap labour.

But there's another scenario: Ethiopia could become a permanent pool of cheap labour; in Bangladesh, workers' wages have not greatly increased in three decades.

Dr Arkebe Oqubay, special economic adviser to the prime minister and architect of the Hawassa Industrial Park strategy, estimated that it would take 15 to 30 years for the country's workforce to acclimate itself fully to the global garment industry.
Pace is critical,
he told the authors of the study.
We need to improve before [foreign] firms become frustrated.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Sadacha Macca » 15 Dec 2019, 21:35

Zmeselo,


We know very well the globalist plans and so on; do you think we lack intellectuals to assess our issues and so on?

We do NOT need an arrogant neighbor of ours pointing out our flaws and problems, we're well aware of them.
Eritrea has issues too, no one can deny it, but of course, you guys would not come here and admit this among ethiopians people you may consider to be your former ''colonizers,'' or ''foes,' or what have you.

To sum it up: we do not need the condescending words of our neighbors, we know our issues and problems.
this is just going to be taken as an arrogant eritrean trying to tell us what's best for us and so on, while we are more aware of our problems than he is.
And he's doing it in an insulting manner/way. Not in the way one would ''advise, or warn,'' a neighbor or comrade

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Zmeselo » 15 Dec 2019, 22:03

Sadacha Macca wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 21:35
Zmeselo,


We know very well the globalist plans and so on; do you think we lack intellectuals to assess our issues and so on?

We do NOT need an arrogant neighbor of ours pointing out our flaws and problems, we're well aware of them.
Eritrea has issues too, no one can deny it, but of course, you guys would not come here and admit this among ethiopians people you may consider to be your former ''colonizers,'' or ''foes,' or what have you.

To sum it up: we do not need the condescending words of our neighbors, we know our issues and problems.
this is just going to be taken as an arrogant eritrean trying to tell us what's best for us and so on, while we are more aware of our problems than he is.
And he's doing it in an insulting manner/way. Not in the way one would ''advise, or warn,'' a neighbor or comrade
If you guys are aware of it, then why fall for it?

He posted an article, written by someone else. How does that make him- "arrogant"? You know very well his views on Abyi and they're positive.

You might be aware of the machinations, but not every Ethiopian is. Eritreans, because of what we went through and because of our small numbers are well aware of it. His insults are directed at the weyane cockroaches, mostly. You know eritreans get insulted daily in this forum too, and it's not in our habit to take it lying down

I really can't see what eritrean problems, you're talking about. Is it democratization? If so, for now, we're satisfied at how things stand. We're struggling for economic emanicipation, to avoid migration and such. Elections and issues of that nature, we've decided it's a matter for the future.

With risk of sounding like cigar's lawyer, but that's the way I see it. He can add to it more, hopefully.

Peace!
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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Digital Weyane » 15 Dec 2019, 22:12

Zmeselo wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 20:37


Garment workers at Hawassa Industrial Park

$26 a month: Ethiopians are being paid world's lowest wages to make your Calvin Kleins

THURSDAY 9 MAY 2019

By James Purtill

Ethiopia is trying to become the new Bangladesh of garment factory labour by promising the lowest wages in the world, but the workers themselves report they're struggling to survive on US$26 a month while stitching clothes for Calvin Klein, H&M and other brands.

of Addis Ababa. The park currently has 25,000 employees producing garments for global brands also including Levi's, Guess, and Tommy Hilfiger.

An Ethiopian government brochure for potential foreign investors advertised:
Cheap and skilled labor: 1/7 of China and 1/2 of Bangladesh.
In fact, the labour would be even cheaper: Workers are being paid $26 a month, almost a quarter of the $95 a month minimum wage in Bangladesh.
Our workers in the De Facto Democratic Republic of Tigray are paid $100 a month salary, which is $5 more than Bangladeshi, and $74 more than Ethiopians. This proves what my Weyane brother Awash has been saying: Tigray = Singapore. :mrgreen:

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Cigar » 15 Dec 2019, 22:47

Zmeselo if I have any thing to add is, yes our neighbor getting into dept it can't get out of, eventually affects its neighbors.
It becomes a tool of the loaners and they, as they always did use Ethiopia to make havoc to neighboring countries which want to stand up on their own, even if it costs Ethiopia lives or destructions.
We saw this game played in Somalia and Eritrea by the globalist using the indebted Ethiopia. And that creates an arms race and eventual wars which destroys all of us.
During the woyane invasion of Eritrea, it is not only Eritrea which suffered. Ethiopia suffered more.
Like you said I only posted what I read by independent media.
So rather than understanding the consquences (depts which can not be paid for generations to come) some of them are forcing us to digress from the topic while hiding their wounds.
A hiden wound won't get cure.
That mother f**ker said that Eritrea too have problems.
Godemet that is the point.
Problems created by the slave woyane to satisfy some of its loans through destruction of another country.
How the f**k can't these people see what we went through in the last 2 decades with no fault of ours? Sanctions, embargoes, human right violation accusations, isolation only because we refuse to be led from Washington.
I hope these a*as holes pay their bills if they reside in the west.
And if they do, why can't they demand their leaders to not put their generational kids in jeopardy.
Yes if you don't pay your bills, you get f**ked up.
And the topic of the thread is just that, but in a country's name or bases.


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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Dawi » 15 Dec 2019, 23:21

Cigar wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 22:47
Zmeselo if I have any thing to add is, yes our neighbor getting into dept it can't get out of, eventually affects its neighbors.

Cigar,

You should have thought about that when you made us land locked?

I get what PIA's realized that Amara were your brothers & sisters; many of us knew that all along; one should have found a better way in solving the inequality in Eritrea/Ethiopia; separation was the worst thing to do. I shouldn't be beating a dead horse ao shall stop here.

Above all, I have a bone with James Purtill that wrote the article; he is probably an agent of Bangladesh, Vietnam and others who need to cry because Ethiopia is eating their lunch.

Look at the pictures of girls who work in the mentioned shops? They look well fed and clean! I rest my case!

In Vietnam & other places today many industrial parks are empty. They can't compete!

Our model is working for now. That is how others did it in the past.

Therefore, you guys stop lamenting please!

Don't cry for us Argentina! :P

Don't cry for me.
This is not the end.
I'll be waiting here for you
when we meet again!

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by opmerc » 16 Dec 2019, 00:19

This is so funny. The things you people would accomplish if you were this focused and organized on all the things that ail your own country..

Anyway nothing wrong with being Bangladesh, they are the current world leaders in textile manufacturing. Emulating them on this sector would be a tremendous achievement.

I like how Cigar ran in here hoping to rile people up with this. Maybe bumped into more positive stories of Ethiopia accidentally, which is probably why he is still so upset..

:lol:

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by aagirmay » 16 Dec 2019, 00:43

pastlast wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 19:09
He hugged your dictator...doesn't change your execution! Do not think that you are safe in the West!
Zmeselo wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 19:07
We, Anti-Eritrean pfdjers love him for this:





Which led, to this:





:lol:

pastlast wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 19:01
Oh what a sack of schit you are..trying to excuse Abiy....Clown Kedaa Traitor, deserter of Gedli and Badme War!

You're a piece of schit who ran away from serving Eritrea in the most dire of times of need. The COuntry needed 18 yr olds and you fled. While 15 yr olds with Balls stayed and fought!

You ran away to avoid conscription to save yourself...and you didn't join EPLA...you have no excuses.

You Will GET EXECUTED for DESERTION AND TREASON!
Zmeselo wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 18:58
You don't need to go look for his photo. He admits it, himself. He was a soldier. I doubt he was there willingly, like all those you used as "fenj-regatchoch" & am sure he's grateful to God for coming out alive. Infact, majority of Ethiopians were hoodwinked into believing Eritrea invalded Ethiopia, until the truth came out and many have seen the light since then. Abyi is 1 of them and he changed. Do people have the right to change? Now, him too, is weyanes enemy number 1 & you're the living proof of that.
pastlast wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 17:58
Cigar, FedUp, isn't the time now for you to [deleted] PM Abiy's backside for allowing the dictator Isayas Afwrki a moving space.

PM Abiy helped to kill 20,000 Eritrean Soldiers while you clown pfdj pathetic gohafaat were living in the US/UK/ Diaspora cheering on the war but to chickenschit to go fight in the war!...

Abiy is now your Master according to Isayas afwrki himself...so go [deleted] his backside and this routine of yours attacking Ethiopia doesn't change nothing in your submissive role relationship with PM Abiy and Ethiopia...you are the bottom-btches of pfdj!

You are not Eritreans! You are not Shaebias!...You are Bottom-btches of PFDJ/ABIY!

Those photos of our beloved TPLF leaders are from 2015 in Shire, when there was a meeting with opposition parties in Ethiopia and the TPLF. It was in Bahre Negash Hotel.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by aagirmay » 16 Dec 2019, 00:50

Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by quindibu » 16 Dec 2019, 00:50

Dawi wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 23:21
You should have thought about that when you made us land locked?
The problem isn't you're landlocked.....but brain-locked.

May God Save Ethiopia From Its Children!

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Zmeselo » 16 Dec 2019, 01:12

Eritrea's National Service Salary Increased to ERN 2000, Graduates to ERN 3500 Nakfa



Eritrea has quietly increased National Service (NS) salary for new graduates. Reports indicate new recruits are receiving a monthly salary of 2000 Nakfa, while college graduates are receiving a monthly salary of 3500 Nakfa.

Previous salaries for the first 18 months of NS ranged from approximately 80 Nakfa up to 600 Nakfa. After 18 months it could increase to a maximum of 1500 Nakfa, according to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS). http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html

The increase in pay places NS on par with other wages in the country. In comparison, an employee at a private hotel typically earns 3000 Nakfa per month, while a Minister receives approximately 4000 Nakfa http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html per month, according to DIS.



aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 00:50
Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by pastlast » 16 Dec 2019, 01:18

In November 201Nevsun_mine_Bisha_credit_Nevsun4, three Eritreans filed a lawsuit against Nevsun Resources in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. They allege the company was complicit in the use of forced labour by Nevsun’s local sub-contractor, Segen Construction (owned by Eritrea’s ruling party), at the Bisha mine in Eritrea. Nevsun, headquartered in Vancouver, has denied the allegations. This lawsuit is the first in Canada where claims are based directly on violations of international law.

The plaintiffs, Gize Yebeyo Araya, Kesete Tekle Fshazion and Mihretab Yemane Tekle, claim that they worked at the Bisha mine against their will and were subject to “cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment”. They allege that they were forced to work long hours and lived in constant fear of threats of torture and intimidation. Nevsun has rejected the allegations as “unfounded” and declared that “the Bisha Mine has adhered at all times to international standards of governance, workplace conditions, and health and safety”.


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Nevsun lawsuit (re Bisha mine, Eritrea)
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In November 201Nevsun_mine_Bisha_credit_Nevsun4, three Eritreans filed a lawsuit against Nevsun Resources in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. They allege the company was complicit in the use of forced labour by Nevsun’s local sub-contractor, Segen Construction (owned by Eritrea’s ruling party), at the Bisha mine in Eritrea. Nevsun, headquartered in Vancouver, has denied the allegations. This lawsuit is the first in Canada where claims are based directly on violations of international law.

The plaintiffs, Gize Yebeyo Araya, Kesete Tekle Fshazion and Mihretab Yemane Tekle, claim that they worked at the Bisha mine against their will and were subject to “cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment”. They allege that they were forced to work long hours and lived in constant fear of threats of torture and intimidation. Nevsun has rejected the allegations as “unfounded” and declared that “the Bisha Mine has adhered at all times to international standards of governance, workplace conditions, and health and safety”.


In October 2016, the Supreme Court of British Colombia rejected Nevsun’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit and ruled that the case should proceed in British Colombia as there were doubts that the plaintiffs would get a fair trial in Eritrea. Nevsun appealed the decision.

In November 2017, the British Columbia Court of Appeal rejected Nevsun's appeal to dismiss the suit, thereby allowing the case to proceed in Canadian courts. The court also allowed claims of crimes against humanity, slavery, forced labour, and torture to go forward against Nevsun. This decision marked the first time an appellate court in Canada permitted a mass tort claim for modern slavery.

On 19 January 2018, Nevsun filed an application with the Canadian Supreme Court asking for permission to appeal the British Columbia ruling. On 14 June 2018, the Supreme Court allowed Nevsun to appeal the November 2017 decision, giving the company another chance to argue against the lawsuit going to trial on 23 January 2019

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en ... ne-eritrea

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by opmerc » 16 Dec 2019, 02:08

To all other neighbors who are so deathly worried about our current wage practices:

https://www.outlookethiopia.com/ethiopi ... labour-law

I've quoted the relevant portion below if you are not the reading type:
The draft proclamation envisages the establishment of Wage Board and the Council of Ministers is empowered to determine the powers and responsibilities of this Board. The Board is empowered to set and revise the minimum wage of employees based on studies which take into account the country’s economic development, labour market and other considerations. The Wage Board will be comprised of the government, employees, trade unions and other stakeholders.
If you don't understand what that means; a process has been initiated by parliament, which is.. you know.. a government body that deliberates such things, to measure how high we can go on the minimum wage and enact a law that will set it at that level.

So you see, we're on top of it. Don't worry yourselves so much.

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by aagirmay » 16 Dec 2019, 06:42

Zmeselo wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 01:12
Eritrea's National Service Salary Increased to ERN 2000, Graduates to ERN 3500 Nakfa



Eritrea has quietly increased National Service (NS) salary for new graduates. Reports indicate new recruits are receiving a monthly salary of 2000 Nakfa, while college graduates are receiving a monthly salary of 3500 Nakfa.

Previous salaries for the first 18 months of NS ranged from approximately 80 Nakfa up to 600 Nakfa. After 18 months it could increase to a maximum of 1500 Nakfa, according to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS). http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html

The increase in pay places NS on par with other wages in the country. In comparison, an employee at a private hotel typically earns 3000 Nakfa per month, while a Minister receives approximately 4000 Nakfa http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html per month, according to DIS.



aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 00:50
Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.
How do you believe shabia? I can assure they don't get paid.
Remember that time Isaias said lets change the bank notes. Then he promised to give everyone their money back, and they had to give it to him to get the new currency.He never gave it and barely changed anything, only to keep the money himself.

If you signed a peace deal with Abiy who is your enemy that you slave millions of youths for to fight? What is the point of Sawa at this time, you already have enough troops.




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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Zmeselo » 17 Dec 2019, 01:13

Why do you weyane stooges always respond, without carefully reading the content?

According to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS)!

Read it again!

Besides it's common knowledge in Eritrea, that it is so!
aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 06:42
Zmeselo wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 01:12
Eritrea's National Service Salary Increased to ERN 2000, Graduates to ERN 3500 Nakfa



Eritrea has quietly increased National Service (NS) salary for new graduates. Reports indicate new recruits are receiving a monthly salary of 2000 Nakfa, while college graduates are receiving a monthly salary of 3500 Nakfa.

Previous salaries for the first 18 months of NS ranged from approximately 80 Nakfa up to 600 Nakfa. After 18 months it could increase to a maximum of 1500 Nakfa, according to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS). http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html

The increase in pay places NS on par with other wages in the country. In comparison, an employee at a private hotel typically earns 3000 Nakfa per month, while a Minister receives approximately 4000 Nakfa http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html per month, according to DIS.



aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 00:50
Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.
How do you believe shabia? I can assure they don't get paid.
Remember that time Isaias said lets change the bank notes. Then he promised to give everyone their money back, and they had to give it to him to get the new currency.He never gave it and barely changed anything, only to keep the money himself.

If you signed a peace deal with Abiy who is your enemy that you slave millions of youths for to fight? What is the point of Sawa at this time, you already have enough troops.




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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by aagirmay » 17 Dec 2019, 04:33

Zmeselo wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 01:13
Why do you weyane stooges always respond, without carefully reading the content?

According to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS)!

Read it again!

Besides it's common knowledge in Eritrea, that it is so!
aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 06:42
Zmeselo wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 01:12
Eritrea's National Service Salary Increased to ERN 2000, Graduates to ERN 3500 Nakfa



Eritrea has quietly increased National Service (NS) salary for new graduates. Reports indicate new recruits are receiving a monthly salary of 2000 Nakfa, while college graduates are receiving a monthly salary of 3500 Nakfa.

Previous salaries for the first 18 months of NS ranged from approximately 80 Nakfa up to 600 Nakfa. After 18 months it could increase to a maximum of 1500 Nakfa, according to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS). http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html

The increase in pay places NS on par with other wages in the country. In comparison, an employee at a private hotel typically earns 3000 Nakfa per month, while a Minister receives approximately 4000 Nakfa http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html per month, according to DIS.



aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 00:50
Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.
How do you believe shabia? I can assure they don't get paid.
Remember that time Isaias said lets change the bank notes. Then he promised to give everyone their money back, and they had to give it to him to get the new currency.He never gave it and barely changed anything, only to keep the money himself.

If you signed a peace deal with Abiy who is your enemy that you slave millions of youths for to fight? What is the point of Sawa at this time, you already have enough troops.



You put the link From Madote
Madote was the one who said Eritrea has the fastest growing economy
http://www.madote.com/2010/11/eritrea-h ... onomy.html

Anyways, until you go and see it yourself, even Eritreans themselves don't know what is happening in their country.
When someone says something against Eritrea you guys defend the regime, when you're by yourselves you hate it.




Even if the Danish Immigration Service said it, it was probably so they could say 'oh look, they are getting paid decent international wages, now we don't need to take their whole bloody population. Because if we didn't have this fake reason we would be in trouble and ostracised by the media for not taking in these enslaved people'

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by Zmeselo » 17 Dec 2019, 04:53

It's common knowledge in Eritrea, that it is like I said it is!

The danish immigration office went to Eritrea and conducted the study, unlike the propaganda you posted.

Madote repeated simply what thr economist magazine said:
The Eritrean economy has undergone extreme changes due to the War of Independence. In 2011, Eritrea's GDP grew by 8.7 percent making it one of the fastest growing economies in the world. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) expects it to maintain a high growth rate of 8.5 percent in 2013.


I suggest you take your complaints with them.

aagirmay wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 04:33
Zmeselo wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 01:13
Why do you weyane stooges always respond, without carefully reading the content?

According to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS)!

Read it again!

Besides it's common knowledge in Eritrea, that it is so!
aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 06:42
Zmeselo wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 01:12
Eritrea's National Service Salary Increased to ERN 2000, Graduates to ERN 3500 Nakfa



Eritrea has quietly increased National Service (NS) salary for new graduates. Reports indicate new recruits are receiving a monthly salary of 2000 Nakfa, while college graduates are receiving a monthly salary of 3500 Nakfa.

Previous salaries for the first 18 months of NS ranged from approximately 80 Nakfa up to 600 Nakfa. After 18 months it could increase to a maximum of 1500 Nakfa, according to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS). http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html

The increase in pay places NS on par with other wages in the country. In comparison, an employee at a private hotel typically earns 3000 Nakfa per month, while a Minister receives approximately 4000 Nakfa http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html per month, according to DIS.



aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 00:50
Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.
How do you believe shabia? I can assure they don't get paid.
Remember that time Isaias said lets change the bank notes. Then he promised to give everyone their money back, and they had to give it to him to get the new currency.He never gave it and barely changed anything, only to keep the money himself.

If you signed a peace deal with Abiy who is your enemy that you slave millions of youths for to fight? What is the point of Sawa at this time, you already have enough troops.



You put the link From Madote
Madote was the one who said Eritrea has the fastest growing economy
http://www.madote.com/2010/11/eritrea-h ... onomy.html

Anyways, until you go and see it yourself, even Eritreans themselves don't know what is happening in their country.
When someone says something against Eritrea you guys defend the regime, when you're by yourselves you hate it.




Even if the Danish Immigration Service said it, it was probably so they could say 'oh look, they are getting paid decent international wages, now we don't need to take their whole bloody population. Because if we didn't have this fake reason we would be in trouble and ostracised by the media for not taking in these enslaved people'

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Re: Ethiopia-the making of African Bangladesh.

Post by aagirmay » 17 Dec 2019, 06:07

Zmeselo wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 04:53
It's common knowledge in Eritrea, that it is like I said it is!

The danish immigration office went to Eritrea and conducted the study, unlike the propaganda you posted.

Madote repeated simply what thr economist magazine said:
The Eritrean economy has undergone extreme changes due to the War of Independence. In 2011, Eritrea's GDP grew by 8.7 percent making it one of the fastest growing economies in the world. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) expects it to maintain a high growth rate of 8.5 percent in 2013.


I suggest you take your complaints with them.

aagirmay wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 04:33
Zmeselo wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 01:13
Why do you weyane stooges always respond, without carefully reading the content?

According to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS)!

Read it again!

Besides it's common knowledge in Eritrea, that it is so!
aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 06:42
Zmeselo wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 01:12
Eritrea's National Service Salary Increased to ERN 2000, Graduates to ERN 3500 Nakfa



Eritrea has quietly increased National Service (NS) salary for new graduates. Reports indicate new recruits are receiving a monthly salary of 2000 Nakfa, while college graduates are receiving a monthly salary of 3500 Nakfa.

Previous salaries for the first 18 months of NS ranged from approximately 80 Nakfa up to 600 Nakfa. After 18 months it could increase to a maximum of 1500 Nakfa, according to the Danish Immigration Service (DIS). http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html

The increase in pay places NS on par with other wages in the country. In comparison, an employee at a private hotel typically earns 3000 Nakfa per month, while a Minister receives approximately 4000 Nakfa http://www.madote.com/2014/11/fact-find ... finds.html per month, according to DIS.



aagirmay wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 00:50
Look, it's better than working as a slave for the dictatorial regime in Asmara.

Imagine getting paid nothing sitting in Sawa, or out in the villages breaking stones for nothing.

Don't even act like those Eritreans in the Canadian mining company make any more.
How do you believe shabia? I can assure they don't get paid.
Remember that time Isaias said lets change the bank notes. Then he promised to give everyone their money back, and they had to give it to him to get the new currency.He never gave it and barely changed anything, only to keep the money himself.

If you signed a peace deal with Abiy who is your enemy that you slave millions of youths for to fight? What is the point of Sawa at this time, you already have enough troops.



You put the link From Madote
Madote was the one who said Eritrea has the fastest growing economy
http://www.madote.com/2010/11/eritrea-h ... onomy.html

Anyways, until you go and see it yourself, even Eritreans themselves don't know what is happening in their country.
When someone says something against Eritrea you guys defend the regime, when you're by yourselves you hate it.




Even if the Danish Immigration Service said it, it was probably so they could say 'oh look, they are getting paid decent international wages, now we don't need to take their whole bloody population. Because if we didn't have this fake reason we would be in trouble and ostracised by the media for not taking in these enslaved people'
High Economic GDP for a country with a total GDP of less than $3 billion USD is nothing. 10% growth in Eritrea is equal to a change in ~$300 million USD, while 10% growth in Ethiopia is ~$10 Billion USD. There is a large difference between $300 Million and $10 Billion.
This growth doesn't mean any change in the lifestyle of your people, the increase in GDP is probably because of more slaved workers in that Canadian Mine, and the purchase of weapons. If Eritrea was to grow 10% per year in 3 years they would achieve just under 1% of Ethiopia's total GDP. About the consumer price inflation, that goes against what you are saying. Real GDP growth is equal to the rate you posted minus that inflation rate you posted. Eritrea still hasn't even broken even yet. Why don't you show the GDP after 2014? Everyone left so no one is spending, contributing to the reduction in the total goods and services in Eritrea (GDP). Shabia, they just see lines and numbers. Nothing real.

Regardless of who said what, statistics still go against what you are saying, and everyone knows what is true in Eritrea and What isn't, but hard core Shabia's can't see it.

That picture you put from the economist, have you read the article? it says third fastest growing economy in Africa, and in the article it says Ethiopia is the fastest growing.


He can't even control his own thought process.

Anyway please look at the GDP growth in Eritrea, from a more recent perspective.


Read what the BBC had to say about your ghost town:

"Eritrea - where ATMs are unknown and Sim cards are like gold dust"


God damm! look at that growth! Through the floor not the roof :lol:

Because of Shabia, Eritreans drown in Debt and the Mediterranean sea! :lol:


Like I said before: "Even if the Danish Immigration Service said it, it was probably so they could say 'oh look, they are getting paid decent international wages, now we don't need to take their whole bloody population. Because if we didn't have this fake reason we would be in trouble and ostracised by the media for not taking in these enslaved people'"

Well, they are doing it in the Netherlands:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ts-critics

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