Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Somaliman,
It's really nice of you to take time to try to reason out with this chimp. Now, the idiot will 'think' that he's a human being.
It's really nice of you to take time to try to reason out with this chimp. Now, the idiot will 'think' that he's a human being.
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Mushmush Agame, suQ bel. Fessfass.
Zmeselo wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 20:33You must be a programmed bot, or a sect member.
What are you going to do about it, if they're "agame"- which they definitely are not? 60-70% of those fleeing in ur 10 year old pic are agame, though. Your white gods, have comfirmed that. You want some quotes? It can easily be provided.
Agame, agame aybelka. Zemenay grnbit!
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Listen to this qunTrram. Spelling Bee, did you find any spelling error today? Wesfa0ttam.
What do you think about Singapore?
What do you think about Singapore?
https://www.journalducameroun.com/en/ea ... in-africa/Ease of Doing Business: Rwanda maintains second spot in Africa
Published on 25.10.2019 at 01h21 by APA News
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Somaliman,
Read and learn.
Read and learn.


https://africatimes.com/2019/10/24/worl ... -business/World Bank: Mauritius, Rwanda top African nations for doing business
By AT editor - 24 October 2019 at 10:26 pm
...Somalia came in last overall again, with Eritrea, Libya, South Sudan and the Central African Republic also among the worst-performing economies. ..
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Awash wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 21:45Mushmush Agame, suQ bel. Fessfass.Zmeselo wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 20:33You must be a programmed bot, or a sect member.
What are you going to do about it, if they're "agame"- which they definitely are not? 60-70% of those fleeing in ur 10 year old pic are agame, though. Your white gods, have comfirmed that. You want some quotes? It can easily be provided.
Agame, agame aybelka. Zemenay grnbit!
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Sockpuppets as tools for propaganda
Zmeselo wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 11:15
Thanks brother Zmeselo! I do appreciate your welcome!
I haven't been to Somalia for a very long time, and the development of the situation in the country is not helping me to go back anytime soon, alas. But I have the intention of going to visit Eritrea one of the coming years, not as the type of foreigner who is attracted to travelling in not so touristy places to gather negativity and boast about it later, but as a brother who wants to enjoy what's in Eritrea without bothering what's missing. And most of all before crap like Donkey Arawit, Awash etc., start flocking into the country - God forbid!
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Somaliman,
Let me simplify it for you and give you the list
No wonder you feel kinship with the ugum shaboob.

Let me simplify it for you and give you the list




Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Dear Awash: Is any of his statements false or an error? Let us see.
"Eritrea; a country where"
1. "ATMs are unknown". Yes, true. So what if there are no ATMs? What are Eitrea's priorities?
2. SIM "cards are like gold dust". But they are available. The phrase: "like gold dust", mainly in UK, is said about something that is very difficult to get because a lot of people want it: i.e. scarce, inadequate and not enough. Yes, that had been the case so far. So what is the point?
3. "has one TV station". Basically true/false: EriTV is the only domestic station, but access to international satellite stations is available. Could someone show that more TV stations are absolutely necessary and items of the highest priority to have for the people?
4. "no independent media". Basically true, and you are free to access foreign media. There is room for improvement here.
5. "no opposition parties" or functional party laws, yet. True, unless they are underground. There is room for improvement here.
6. "has 1% internet penetration". That is about right estimation. So what?
7. "[has never had an election]". Never had an election is misleading/false. Functional elections laws or institutions were not yet set up, but the president was once elected by the National Assembly; and local elections are done periodically and regularly. However, Zoba governors are appointed by the President, and not elected. The National Assembly has not made any meetings since 2002; and no national elections have been made since. National elections are done in peacetimes, and Eritreans have seen a very brief period of peace between 1961 and 2018, and war/no-peace changes a nation's priorities. National elections would do good for happier lives of the people if they are based on a functional Constitution, which Eritrea is working on, and we know that it will succeed.
Eritrea(ns) accept criticisms when they are facts-based, thoughtful and constructive. Don't hold back your unbiased opinions. One has to evaluate Eritrea within the context of its realities to avoid errors.
"Eritrea; a country where"
1. "ATMs are unknown". Yes, true. So what if there are no ATMs? What are Eitrea's priorities?
2. SIM "cards are like gold dust". But they are available. The phrase: "like gold dust", mainly in UK, is said about something that is very difficult to get because a lot of people want it: i.e. scarce, inadequate and not enough. Yes, that had been the case so far. So what is the point?
3. "has one TV station". Basically true/false: EriTV is the only domestic station, but access to international satellite stations is available. Could someone show that more TV stations are absolutely necessary and items of the highest priority to have for the people?
4. "no independent media". Basically true, and you are free to access foreign media. There is room for improvement here.
5. "no opposition parties" or functional party laws, yet. True, unless they are underground. There is room for improvement here.
6. "has 1% internet penetration". That is about right estimation. So what?
7. "[has never had an election]". Never had an election is misleading/false. Functional elections laws or institutions were not yet set up, but the president was once elected by the National Assembly; and local elections are done periodically and regularly. However, Zoba governors are appointed by the President, and not elected. The National Assembly has not made any meetings since 2002; and no national elections have been made since. National elections are done in peacetimes, and Eritreans have seen a very brief period of peace between 1961 and 2018, and war/no-peace changes a nation's priorities. National elections would do good for happier lives of the people if they are based on a functional Constitution, which Eritrea is working on, and we know that it will succeed.
Eritrea(ns) accept criticisms when they are facts-based, thoughtful and constructive. Don't hold back your unbiased opinions. One has to evaluate Eritrea within the context of its realities to avoid errors.
Awash wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 08:51Is anything in his statement false or an error? You want to have him talk about something he has firsthand knowledge, but nothing he said is incorrect.Somaliman wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 07:21...As Charles Onyango-Obbo is a Ugandan author and journalist, I'm of the opinion that he should better talk to us about what he's supposed to know better (above), rather than talking about Eritrea, on which he has no firsthand information whatsoever. Just a thought!
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
YOYO,
The conditions in Eritrea had been well described by your own shabo economist. As for your other BS responses such as ,"so what", it an admission of defeat, loss, and guilt as charged.
Like I told Somaliman, todays report of the worst place to do business shows how bunkrupt the tyrannical regime is.

The conditions in Eritrea had been well described by your own shabo economist. As for your other BS responses such as ,"so what", it an admission of defeat, loss, and guilt as charged.
Like I told Somaliman, todays report of the worst place to do business shows how bunkrupt the tyrannical regime is.

Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Dear Awash: Africans are talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea. So what?
What are they going to do after the talking? Cooperate with or antagonize Eritrea? Then, what positive results would follow? Asking these questions is not about guilt, loss, defeat, or BS-ing, but to find out what action needs to be done by whom and when to resolve which challenge.
We, Eritreans, acknowledge that our nation has many challenges. The question is what are you willing to do to participate in solving problems? Talk, and keep on talking? Better than talking, something is being done about the challenges, for e.g.,
Check for Internet Providers in Eritrea with different speeds.
https://isp.today/en/list-of-all-services/ERITREA
Those who criticize Eritrea out of context, or show no genuine interest to work with the Government of Eritrea, given existing differences, would achieve very little. Let alone individuals like you, the embassy of the US of America in Eritrea could not register much success in achieving its goals.
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upload ... ritrea.pdf
That is why you should have answered the question, So what?
What are they going to do after the talking? Cooperate with or antagonize Eritrea? Then, what positive results would follow? Asking these questions is not about guilt, loss, defeat, or BS-ing, but to find out what action needs to be done by whom and when to resolve which challenge.
We, Eritreans, acknowledge that our nation has many challenges. The question is what are you willing to do to participate in solving problems? Talk, and keep on talking? Better than talking, something is being done about the challenges, for e.g.,
https://www.bcsatellite.net/satellite-i ... n-eritrea/In terms of its telecommunications infrastructure, Eritrea faces challenges and is in need of development. Of the almost 5.5 million-strong population, there are 71,000 Internet users (around less than 2% of the population) and, though 3G networks are being rolled out across the country, this is a long process that will take time. The government has started a programme that aims to extend 3G services to remote areas, using solar power to support the country’s electrical infrastructure. However, foreign investment will be an important means to aid the development of the telecoms infrastructure in the country.
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-relea ... 2019-06-10Eritrea's mobile network approaches national coverage. Eritrea's telecom sector operates under a state-owned monopoly for fixed and mobile services. Partly as a result of such restrictions on competition, the country has the least developed telecommunications market in Africa. Mobile penetration as of mid-2017 was only about 7.4%, while fixed-line internet use barely registers.
This is exacerbated by the very low use of computers, with only about 3% of households having a computer, and most of these being in the capital, Asmara. Although the provision of internet services is open to competition, less than 2% of households have access to the internet. As a result such growth as there is in the mobile and mobile internet sectors. The national telco, the Eritrean Telecommunication Services Corporation (EriTel), continues to roll out a 3G network which provides basic internet access to the majority or Eritreans.
Check for Internet Providers in Eritrea with different speeds.
https://isp.today/en/list-of-all-services/ERITREA
Those who criticize Eritrea out of context, or show no genuine interest to work with the Government of Eritrea, given existing differences, would achieve very little. Let alone individuals like you, the embassy of the US of America in Eritrea could not register much success in achieving its goals.
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upload ... ritrea.pdf
That is why you should have answered the question, So what?
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YAY, if you will listen, the number 1 question is will YOU accept that the solution to Eritrean Peoples problem is caused by the following (of which some you can control, others you can't):
1. International community (US, Russia, China, UK, Arabia..etc)
2. Ethiopia (Woyane/TPLF/EPRDF, Abiy Ahmed)
3. Isayas Afwrki (Dictatorship and anti-constitutionalism, anti-OTHER ERitreanism)!
I call the 3rd situation, "Anti-OTHERERITREAnism" = "Other Eritreans except Isayas Afwrki can Not Do Anything for Eritrea in Terms of Leadership or New Ideas that work"
If you believe that "Anti-OtherEritreanism" is the only way , then there is no Discussion,...your Answer is ONLY in Isayas Afwrki and NO-Other Eritrean!
1. International community (US, Russia, China, UK, Arabia..etc)
2. Ethiopia (Woyane/TPLF/EPRDF, Abiy Ahmed)
3. Isayas Afwrki (Dictatorship and anti-constitutionalism, anti-OTHER ERitreanism)!
I call the 3rd situation, "Anti-OTHERERITREAnism" = "Other Eritreans except Isayas Afwrki can Not Do Anything for Eritrea in Terms of Leadership or New Ideas that work"
If you believe that "Anti-OtherEritreanism" is the only way , then there is no Discussion,...your Answer is ONLY in Isayas Afwrki and NO-Other Eritrean!
YAY wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 05:41Dear Awash: Africans are talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea. So what?
What are they going to do after the talking? Cooperate with or antagonize Eritrea? Then, what positive results would follow? Asking these questions is not about guilt, loss, defeat, or BS-ing, but to find out what action needs to be done by whom and when to resolve which challenge.
We, Eritreans, acknowledge that our nation has many challenges. The question is what are you willing to do to participate in solving problems? Talk, and keep on talking? Better than talking, something is being done about the challenges, for e.g.,
https://www.bcsatellite.net/satellite-i ... n-eritrea/In terms of its telecommunications infrastructure, Eritrea faces challenges and is in need of development. Of the almost 5.5 million-strong population, there are 71,000 Internet users (around less than 2% of the population) and, though 3G networks are being rolled out across the country, this is a long process that will take time. The government has started a programme that aims to extend 3G services to remote areas, using solar power to support the country’s electrical infrastructure. However, foreign investment will be an important means to aid the development of the telecoms infrastructure in the country.
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-relea ... 2019-06-10Eritrea's mobile network approaches national coverage. Eritrea's telecom sector operates under a state-owned monopoly for fixed and mobile services. Partly as a result of such restrictions on competition, the country has the least developed telecommunications market in Africa. Mobile penetration as of mid-2017 was only about 7.4%, while fixed-line internet use barely registers.
This is exacerbated by the very low use of computers, with only about 3% of households having a computer, and most of these being in the capital, Asmara. Although the provision of internet services is open to competition, less than 2% of households have access to the internet. As a result such growth as there is in the mobile and mobile internet sectors. The national telco, the Eritrean Telecommunication Services Corporation (EriTel), continues to roll out a 3G network which provides basic internet access to the majority or Eritreans.
Check for Internet Providers in Eritrea with different speeds.
https://isp.today/en/list-of-all-services/ERITREA
Those who criticize Eritrea out of context, or show no genuine interest to work with the Government of Eritrea, given existing differences, would achieve very little. Let alone individuals like you, the embassy of the US of America in Eritrea could not register much success in achieving its goals.
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upload ... ritrea.pdf
That is why you should have answered the question, So what?
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
Let's see who you're gonna start blaming for another decade of tyrannical policies by the same ol' tried and true dictatorship. I hope the tyrannical junta will start owning up to their stupidity and not blame the voicless victims, the Eritrean people.
P.S. I must have hit some nerve for criminal shabo to send their senior handler to respond to this thread.

P.S. I must have hit some nerve for criminal shabo to send their senior handler to respond to this thread.



YAY wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 05:41Dear Awash: Africans are talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea. So what?
What are they going to do after the talking? Cooperate with or antagonize Eritrea? Then, what positive results would follow? Asking these questions is not about guilt, loss, defeat, or BS-ing, but to find out what action needs to be done by whom and when to resolve which challenge. ..

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African migrants evacuated recently from Libya to Rwanda, say they still want to make the dangerous journey to Europe.
Nagash says she paid a smuggler $5,500 to get her to a better life in Europe. But once in a boat on the Mediterranean Sea, her journey came to a horrific end.
Despite the risk, many like Nagash still want to flee Africa.
She says that Europe, is where she and the other refugees want to go to. She says, they don’t want to stay in Rwanda.
For now, these refugees are safe and have time to consider their next move for a better future.
https://www.voanews.com/afr...
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I’ve no intention of reasoning with you, since this would obviously amount to talking to a brick wall. I’m just stating facts. How can any sane person reason on things that can be related to Eritrea with someone whose daily mantra has been, ‘Eritrea this, Eritrea that, ugum shabo’ and nothing else for more than 10 consecutive years!
I’m not going to bother with your tables and ranking; as many of us know how such and similar tables and rankings have been concocted. Statistics also function as lies and liars often use statistics. For instance, Somalia is in every statistic produced by international bodies, even though it has been impossible to collect any reliable data in Somalia for the past thirty years. Go figure out where they get such data from!
Have you ever heard Iwawa Island, since you untiringly lambaste Eritrean government also for asking its youth to undertake their national service in the army! That’s the Alcatraz of Rwanda. It’s a small island within Lake Kivu, in western Rwanda. In this island there’s a prison. Rwanda rounds up all unemployed youth and those who are involved in menial jobs, such as selling stuff on the streets or markets, and instead of helping them out, sends them into this heavily guarded prison - that no one has ever escaped from – with no indefinite period of time set! Guess what! The Rwandan government claims that it’s a rehabilitation centre for young drug addicts who checked themselves in to get clean and learn skills. But reporters who managed to get inside the prison and saw for themselves have reported back that it’s both a prison and a training camp for fighters sent to fight rebellions in the neighbouring DRC, and that every inmate is desperately waiting for their release date, leave alone having checked in voluntarily!
In Kigali, you very rarely see kids (to the extent that you wonder whether Rwandese have children), unemployed young people, or young people involved in menial jobs. But now you know where they are!
Moreover, Rwanda is a state police, to the extent that almost every Rwandese tells you that half of the population work for the surveillance service – of course when they’re alone with you and no one else is overhearing them. You can’t imagine how many Rwandese who showed me their undercover ID. Although Rwandese like to chat in group, their discussion is extremely superficial as everybody is careful of everybody. I’ve a few good Rwandese friends in Rwanda. We correspond through emails. They never answer anything else other than greetings, for fear of their emails being read by the usual suspects! They don’t even answer simple enquiries, such as checking the availability of a certain medication at their pharmacies for me, for fear that their replies might be read and taken for personal opinions of theirs - and they tell this to me when I meet them again in Rwanda.
You haven’t seen people who drink so much alcohol until you’ve seen Rwandan (and Burundian) people drinking beer, mostly. They’re more stressed out and distressed than people in western countries. They drink so much to compensate to the extent that for them drinking is more important than eating. In Rwanda, everybody is complaining about the harsh life in the country and their desperation. But talking about Kagame & co. is a big no no!
I can go on and on talking about the ills of Rwanda without demeaning it and its people.
You don’t know the reality in Rwanda until you’ve spent some time in the country.
Again, that’s the Rwanda you’re thinking Eritreans would envy! You must be suffering from mental unsoundness!
Re: Africans talking about the Poverty and Oppression in Eritrea
It is fruitless to go back and forth with idiots who purposely do not want to accept the outside challenges Eritrea faced since the 1950's and certainly after it gained its independence.
What can one do when one raises his head out a hole and get smacked by forces greater than they are.
Well Eritrea was only a free country from 1993 to 1998 (5 years) and since 2018 and todate out of its entire sovereignty.
So if some one is throwing bricks at you, your priority is to fend yourself. You have to put off cleaning your yard or home.
All these nonsense smear Eritrea or its leadership is nothing but fear of what it could be if it is let to do like what the other 53 African older nations are doing with out any foreign power puts its nose in their internal affairs.
So, I tell these hasadat agames if the peace holds, come back in five years and point your fingers.
What can one do when one raises his head out a hole and get smacked by forces greater than they are.
Well Eritrea was only a free country from 1993 to 1998 (5 years) and since 2018 and todate out of its entire sovereignty.
So if some one is throwing bricks at you, your priority is to fend yourself. You have to put off cleaning your yard or home.
All these nonsense smear Eritrea or its leadership is nothing but fear of what it could be if it is let to do like what the other 53 African older nations are doing with out any foreign power puts its nose in their internal affairs.
So, I tell these hasadat agames if the peace holds, come back in five years and point your fingers.
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Zmeselo wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 08:06
African migrants evacuated recently from Libya to Rwanda, say they still want to make the dangerous journey to Europe.
Nagash says she paid a smuggler $5,500 to get her to a better life in Europe. But once in a boat on the Mediterranean Sea, her journey came to a horrific end.
Despite the risk, many like Nagash still want to flee Africa.
She says that Europe, is where she and the other refugees want to go to. She says, they don’t want to stay in Rwanda.
For now, these refugees are safe and have time to consider their next move for a better future.
https://www.voanews.com/afr...
They're lucky if Rwanda doesn't send them into Rwandan Alcatraz and claim they first need to get clean of their dreams of going to Europe, before resettling them in Rwanda!
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Somaliman,
This is no concoction. These are facts, just like the numbers of citizens fleeing the tyranny in your favorite dictatorship.
https://www.doingbusiness.org/en/rankings
This is no concoction. These are facts, just like the numbers of citizens fleeing the tyranny in your favorite dictatorship.


https://africatimes.com/2019/10/24/worl ... -business/World Bank: Mauritius, Rwanda top African nations for doing business
By AT editor - 24 October 2019 at 10:26 pm
...Somalia came in last overall again, with Eritrea, Libya, South Sudan and the Central African Republic also among the worst-performing economies. ..
https://www.doingbusiness.org/en/rankings
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Your petty criminals are in reform schools where journalists can come from New York and record freely. We're talking about Eiraero prison in Eritrea where veteran freedom fighters and journalists are sent to die slow death and cooked alive.
Watch "#Eritrea: Former Liberation Fighters Betrayed, Tortured, & Killed by PFDJ Dictatorship" on YouTube
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Somaliman,
You think peison in shaboland is a pucnic? Think again. The Rwandan petty thieves have it easy compared to the innocent in Eritrea.
Watch "Eritrea's forgotten prisons exposed" on YouTube
You think peison in shaboland is a pucnic? Think again. The Rwandan petty thieves have it easy compared to the innocent in Eritrea.
Watch "Eritrea's forgotten prisons exposed" on YouTube