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[Abere]

To think Ethiopic alphabet, architecture, mathematics, etc is from Arab is to say Teff /ጤፍ/ was first cultivated by the Dutch or Holland farmers. If conspiracy were missile , Ethiopia would have been collapsed hundred years ago. Ethiopia the biblical land of Adam and Eve, the Holy land where the true cross and the Arch of covenant treasured, out lives her enemy. Ethiopia was the tower of civilization , theology and it will revive - her enemies and boots licking conspirators will kneel down to her.

[Axumawi]

Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi

Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (c.1507 - February 21, 1543) was a Somali general who defeated several Ethiopian emperors and wreaked much damage on that nation. He is also known as Ahmad Gragn, or "Ahmed the left-handed".

He was born from the Abraine clan sub-clan of the majority populated North Gadaboursi (Samaron) Tribe in Zeylac. He was married to Bati del Wambara, the daughter of Mahfuz the governor of Zeila . When Mahfuz was killed returning from a campaign against the Ethiopian emperor Lebne Dengel in 1517, the Adal sultanate lapsed into anarchy for several years, until Ahmad killed the last of the contenders for power and took control of Harar.

In retaliation for an attack on Adal in 1527-8 by the Ethiopian general Degalhan, Ahmad invaded Ethiopia in 1529, and inflicted a defeat on Lebne Dengel. Ahmad campaigned again in Ethiopia in 1531, looting the island monastery of Lake Hayq and the stone churches of Lalibela. When he entered the province of Tigray, he defeated an Ethiopian army that confronted him there, and on reaching Axum destroyed the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion, in which the Ethiopian emperors had been coronated for centuries.

The Ethiopians were forced to ask for help from the Portuguese, who landed at the port of Massawa on February 10, 1541 in the reign of the emperor Gelawdewos . This force was led by Christopher da Gama , and included 400 musketeers and a number of artisans and other non-combatants. In response, Ahmad received 900 well-armed men from the Ottomans in Yemen to assist him.

While the Portuguese expedition were victorious in most of their engagements with Ahmad's forces, da Gama allowed himself to be trapped by Ahmad somewhere north of the Tekezé River, where he was killed along with all but 140 of his troops. The survivors and Galawedos were able to join forces, and drawing on the Portuguese supplies, they attacked Ahmad on February 21, 1543 in the Battle of Wayna Daga , where their 9,000 troops managed to defeat the 15,000 soldiers under Ahmad. Ahmad was killed by a Portuguese musketteer, who was mortally wounded in avenging da Gama's death.

His wife Bati del Wambara managed to escape the battlefield with a remnant of the Turkish soldiers to Harar, where she rallied his followers. She agreed to marry his nephew Nur ibn Mujahid on the condition that Nur would avenge Ahmad's defeat.

In Ethiopia the damage which [Ahmad] Gragn did has never been forgotten," wrote Paul B. Henze. "Every Christian highlander still hears tales of Gragn in his childhood. Haile Selassie referred to him in his memoirs. I have often had villagers in northern

Ethiopia point out sites of towns, forts, churches and monasteries destroyed by Gragn as if these catastrophes had occurred only yesterday. Somali consider Ahmad a national hero,

Sources
Ahmad's invasion of Ethiopia is described in detail in the Futuh al-habasa ("The Conquest of Ethiopia") written in Arabic by Ahmad's follower Sihab ad-Din Admad ibn 'Abd-al-Qadir , and covers the story up to March 19, 1537. This history was translated into French by René Basset, but no translation into English has yet been made.


Low IQ Tigrayan trolls think they are smart, smh!!!

Think about the following:
1. We had people that can write who were part of the battles, we always do. Having two or 3 debteras who keep records is part of any battle let alone wars.
2. His son was captured and the son of our King Ishaq was also captured by them. The exchange was made in zeila
3. The team from Negus Ishaq army that was sent to ensure that Zeila or Harer would never even think of repeating/contemplating such a betrayal again has spent few months around Zeila and Harer with some Afar and Hareri assistance.

Your quote from the journalist starts by Somali General..lol what is the proof.

Do you realize there is description of Ahmed Gragn in Tigrigna writings, but never a Somali or your references Arabs or Ferenjis? Why is that?

Writing and documenting incidents was our culture and tradition long before Ottoman/Ahmed Gragn campaign.

[Axumawi]

yaballo,

Thanks for all the most informative postings and supporting sources.

I would be remiss if I do not mention one very basic mistake most people make talking about Yemen before 2000 years.
There was nothing Arab in Yemen.
To this day there are more than 20 languages in Yemen that have survived 2000 years of Arab onslaught.

Take a look at the facial profile of most Yemenis. You will find out that they are more similar to east of them than to west and north of them.

Food for thought:
Egyptians today are only 19% Arab. Yet they speak non stop about being heart of Arabs, Arab motherland...Egyptians actually should be ashamed for becoming Arab by colonization/rule/domination of fforeigners/Arabs.

If the Arab brahula had continued Somalis would have been latest Arab too.

Speaking about Yemen or southern KSA today, but speaking regarding 1600-2000 years ago should not include making Yemeni Arab. Neither Sabeans or the other tribes that existed in Yemen were Arab.


Your point of not giving credit to foereigners is on point.
There were 130 Russians at Adwa battle...you have to work really hard to find that one from any Shiwa scribes, yet a village Debtera near Adwa had written even description of some of the Russian advisors and soldiers at Adwa on the Ethiopian side.

There was a league in Japan with 10,000 members that sent equipment to Ethiopians, after seeing the unfair fight with Italy. (WW2 had not started and Japan and Italy hardly knew each other then). This was never mentioned in open public way until Meles returned one of these equipment to Japan for Museum, what he could easily find around his home town of Adwa.

And many many more....

[Selam/]

Interesting, you accuse others for not substantiating their statements with evidences and here you are posting pure bull crap. What is you evidence that Teff was cultivated in Arabia and why did they discontinue it? In your calculus, the Mexicans borrowed burrito from Yemen and also the Afghani copied their Naan from them. What about the Israeli pita bread? Stop this nonsense, your Yemeni goat herders and khat addicts are still living in medieval time, killing each other like mad dogs.



And who proved Sheba’s lineage to Yemen?

Listen, Arabs were good traders and that’s what got them where they are now. Everything else is just false.
If you’re a black African, you better learn your history. You’re equal if not superior to Arabs and Ferenji’s. One of the main reasons for their civilization is their physical Geography. While the European have navigable seas and rivers like the Mediterranean, Elbe, Danube, Rhine, Tibet, and Volga, the tortures Africa’s coastal line didn’t allow any meaningful navigation to develop. One tribe was unable to travel long distance and trade with other tribes. Add to that the convenience of the wheat belt and advancement of weaponry to subjugate others.

That’s what kick started European civilization and not your IQ bullsh!t. If you volunteer to degrade yourself as a black person, be my guest. I will second your choice and equate you to the level of my lovely dog.

Teff & even injera originated in what is today Yemen & taken to what is today Ethiopia. A type of 'injera' was the main form of bread eaten by ancient Yemenis such as the famous Queen of Sheba. If you think teff & inejera started in Ethiopia, please try to find some evidence. OK?

[Selam/]

That’s an immature argument, buddy. There is a belief that there are remains of Europeans buried deep in the highlands of northern Ethiopia from 10th or 12th century. But that doesn’t mean they were indigenous people. Likewise, there is evidence that Ethiopia reigned over south Arabia. Did you expect those Ethiopias to have lived on khat or what?

If you’re indeed Ethiopian, try to make a counter argument instead of buying what Arabs and ferenjis have scribbled because they’ll always try to substantiate their superiority. For example, they still don’t want ancient Egypt to be associated with black Africa when in fact all the evidences are against their narratives. Read what Ethiopian and African scholars wrote even if they don’t lineup with your preconceived notions.

Researchers around the world seek clues that elevate their nations. Sellouts and brainwashed slaves like yourself fish through the Internet looking for something that proves their personal inferiority. Again, I have accepted your self-demotion confession and I will call you “Chilo Mader” from now on. Good day, puppy.

Selam,

There have been some relatively recent archaeological findings in Yemen where teff grains were found buried under an ancient village. There are other evidences to support this claim too, along the generally agreed-upon theory that claims that just about ALL grains & animals farmed in today's Ethiopia & Africa originated in the Middle East - perhaps except a grain called millet/sorghum. Just google to learn more on these things. OK? You don't expect me to spoon-feed you - do you? Good Luck.

Nagaatti.

Interesting, you accuse others for not substantiating their statements with evidences and here you are posting pure bull crap. What is you evidence that Teff was cultivated in Arabia and why did they discontinue it? In your calculus, the Mexicans borrowed burrito from Yemen and also the Afghani copied their Naan from them. What about the Israeli pita bread? Stop this nonsense, your Yemeni goat herders and khat addicts are still living in medieval time, killing each other like mad dogs.



And who proved Sheba’s lineage to Yemen?

Listen, Arabs were good traders and that’s what they got them where they are now. Everything else is just false.
If you’re a black African, you better learn your history. You’re equal if not superior to Arabs and Ferenji’s. One of the main reasons for their civilization is their physical Geography. While the European have navigable seas and rivers like the Mediterranean, Elbe, Danube, Rhine, Tibet, and Volga, the tortures Africa’s coastal line didn’t allow any meaningful navigation to develop. One tribe was unable to travel long distance and trade with other tribes. Add to that the convenience of the wheat belt and advancement of weaponry to subjugate others.

That’s what kick started European civilization and your not IQ bullsh!t. If you volunteer to degrade yourself as a black person, be my guest. I will second your choice and equate you to the level of my lovely dog.

Teff & even injera originated in what is today Yemen & taken to what is today Ethiopia. A type of 'injera' was the main form of bread eaten by ancient Yemenis such as the famous Queen of Sheba. If you think teff & inejera started in Ethiopia, please try to find some evidence. OK?

[Abere]

@Obbo Yabello,

Do you seriously believe readers will buy into the made up conspirator scribbles? First there is a very fundamental matter that has never crossed your mind - that is, there is a striking similarity of humanity as there is a striking dissimilarity. In other words, there are cultural university in all humanities shared by all e.g. naming, love & family,singing, decoration and ornament; there also disimilarities eg. Yemeni dine on camel milk and meat; Tigre/Amhara eats lamb, beef and drinks cow milk; Arabs/Yemeni are polygamous and in cross-cousin marraiges; Amhara/Tigre are monogamous and exogamy (no marriage with close relatives); Amhara/Tigre use their own Geez Alphabet; Arab/Yemeni Arabic scripts; the list goes on. The Abyssinain culture is distinct from Arabic or Yemeni culture. It why this has been become a surprising in such a proximity the Arabs called Ethiopia an Island, meaning a distinct culture of people of creed, bravery and civilization.

I can see why you are in the business of cultural piracy - because you could be the disciple of Ato Hizikael. By the way do the Arabs/ Yemeni know also ጠላ መጥመቅ እና ዶሮ ወጥ መሥራት? You also want rob Queen of Sheba off Ethiopia and give all her story to Arabs but without knowing the factual evidences.
First, no Arab country or Yemeni had a queen in their history at all. Women had been subjugated and never allowed to neither to rule or make their own decision.ማንም የዐረብ አገር በታሪኩ የሴት ንግሥት ኑሮት አያውቅም ምክንያቱም በዐረብ ባህል ሴቶች የበታች ናቸው። ስለዚህ ንግሥት ሳባ የአበሻ ንግሥት ስለሆኗ ብዙ የታሪክ ምሁራን አረጋግጠዋል። የንግሥት ሳባም ዐረቦችን ታስገብር ነበር። እውነቱ ይኸነው። Thus, you internet fiction about Teff Injera, coffee etc. were imported from Yemen/Arab does not fly. Your fiction is counter intuitive and defy the objective fact , while the rest of the world claim they came out of Ethiopia, your telling them no yo came from Yemen. Among the very few superpower of the world before Roman Empire such as Chinese, Babylon, Indian the Abyssinian Empire/Axumite/ was the most renowned. The Arabs by then were Bedouins roaming with cattle with tens of wives. It would be meaningful if the OLFites spend their time what their Aba Gedda was doing by then when the Bedouins roam and married to ten wives tending then along with their cattle.

[Selam/]

My puppy “Chilo Mader”
“...በባሌበቱ ቁላ የሚኮራ ባሪያ ብቻ ነው/be balebetu qula yemikora bariya"

🤭 Where did you get that distorted proverb and why do you need to deform it further by writing it in Latin scripts? This tells me that you don’t have a knowledge of part of Ethiopian culture and you’re fundamentally detached from the people, if not deeply hate them. That premise alone disqualifies you from talking about the subject of Ethiopian Civilization.

As a child, you may have been listening to only Arabian nights but I was exposed to not only the Islamic Golden Age folk tales but also to the Ethiopian folklores and Greek myths, which were the foundation of classical antiquity.

You fool, learn the fact that second-hand history is inevitably biased and it doesn’t depend on a single viewpoint but on the sum of many, including oral traditions. And yet, it is usually flawed because you’re always taking other humans words, trusting that they have studied the subject unbiased and come to a conclusion that appears to be true. If you reject oral traditions, you might as well reject carbon dating and archaeological findings. Otherwise, the Somalis wouldn’t have any history because they usually depend on tales. Or, Columbus should be hailed as an Angel for converting “Americas” into Christianity with love and care.

Buddy, folk tales are parts and parcels of history. That’s how the Bible and Quran were written into completion.
But it’s your right to continue to self-depreciate yourself beneath the level of my puppy while I continue to elevate and nurture the folk tales and myths associated with Ethiopian superiority aside from the authentic history written from within.

Selam,

Not really, amore mio. You, like most deluded habeshas, is suffering from a syndrome that could be described via an Amharic adage that goes something like "በባሌበቱ ቁላ የሚኮራ ባሪያ ብቻ ነው/be balebetu qula yemikora bariya" ...

You can't hope to sustain a sense of Ethiopian national pride & national self-worth on fake stories; on sordid ancient myths+fairy tales that belong to semitic tribes; & on the denial of your black African heritage for ever. Worse still, trying to do so in the age of the internet is futile, to say the least. Hence, the need to claim what is yours with pride & ditch what belongs to Yemeni Arabs. OK?

Now, it is more accurate to say that Yemeni colonists who founded the state of Axumite went back to participate in a civil war in their ancestral homeland of Yemen, rather than declaring that 'Ethiopians invaded & colonised Yemen sometime in the distant past'. Also, to make sense of history, you need to have a rough timeline of events.

To understand the evolution of the Axumite kingdom & its invasion of Yemen, you need to think of two periods in history separated by more than 1000 years. The Yemeni kingdom of Sheba (800BC-400BC) was the first to cross the Red Sea from Yemen to carve-out a colony in what is today Eritrea. That colony grew into a kingdom of full & half-caste Yemenis known as the "Kingdom of Da'mat". This kingdom predates the more famous "Kingdom of Axum" that sent soldiers across the Red Sea, to support one side in a civil war, by more than 1000 years.

The Kingodm of Axum sent its invading soldiers to Yemen around 530AD & these were led by an Axumite general and former slave named Abrahah. This was an era when the Kingdom of Axum had already accepted christianity as its state religion & its rulers were having a love-affair with the byzantine empire centered in eastern Mediterranean (Greece/Turkey/Coptic Egypt).

That means that the Axumite Kingdom was not really a "black or African Kingdom" per-se but was also a "Yemenite/Semitic Kingdom" founded by the descendants of Yemeni settlers who founded the Da'mat kingdom earlier on.

In a sense, Yemenis of today have FAR MORE LEGITIMATE CLAIM over the history of the "Axumite civilisation" than most Ethiopians of today. Of course, Ethiopians who are not ethnic Tigre (Beja) & Tigraway have ZERO relation with things Axumite. Hence, Ato Meles Zenawi's famous quote: '"አክሱም ለወላይታ ምኑ ናት?/Axum le wolaita minuanat" is a very apt & accurate statement indeed.

In summary: not just injera but the so called "Axumite civlisation & history" ALSO belongs more to the Yemenis of today than to Ethiopians! .. Do you guys have anything that is authentically yours? .. OMG! .. I think you do have things that are authentically yours if & when you looked in your indigenous, black & African heritages & ditched all these Yemeni or Semitic myths & fairy-tales... Just a brotherly advice. Good Luck.


photo: map: the 'Da'mat kingdom' was founded in what is today Eritrea as the colony of the Sabaeans/Yemenis. This kingdom was at its best around 500BC.



photo: the Kingdom of Axum - run by the descendants of those who founded the Da'amat Yemeni colony in what is today Eritrea - sent troops to their ancestral land of Yemen to partake in a civil war around 530AD ...

[Selam/]

My puppy, Chilo Mader - Do you know the word Sharmouta is an Arabic word? Regardless of the origin of the word, it represents those people who undress themselves to anyone coming. Your body might have been created in in Ethiopia but as it stands now your bottom is definitely inside Arabia. That’s what makes you believe that every similar word originated in Arabia.

Ato Abere;

Do you know that the name "buna" [coffee] is an Arabic word? ... Yes, the name comes from the Arabic 'al-bun'. So, if you think that 'buna' is as Ethiopian as injera ; ... how come Ethiopians don't actually have their own name for this product? .. Also, note that the type of coffee produced in Ethiopia is known as 'Arabica coffee'.

@Obbo Yabello,

Do you seriously believe readers will buy into the made up conspirator scribbles? First there is a very fundamental matter that has never crossed your mind - that is, there is a striking similarity of humanity as there is a striking dissimilarity. In other words, there are cultural university in all humanities shared by all e.g. naming, love & family,singing, decoration and ornament; there also disimilarities eg. Yemeni dine on camel milk and meat; Tigre/Amhara eats lamb, beef and drinks cow milk; Arabs/Yemeni are polygamous and in cross-cousin marraiges; Amhara/Tigre are monogamous and exogamy (no marriage with close relatives); Amhara/Tigre use their own Geez Alphabet; Arab/Yemeni Arabic scripts; the list goes on. The Abyssinain culture is distinct from Arabic or Yemeni culture. It why this has been become a surprising in such a proximity the Arabs called Ethiopia an Island, meaning a distinct culture of people of creed, bravery and civilization.

I can see why you are in the business of cultural piracy - because you could be the disciple of Ato Hizikael. By the way do the Arabs/ Yemeni know also ጠላ መጥመቅ እና ዶሮ ወጥ መሥራት? You also want rob Queen of Sheba off Ethiopia and give all her story to Arabs but without knowing the factual evidences.
First, no Arab country or Yemeni had a queen in their history at all. Women had been subjugated and never allowed to neither to rule or make their own decision.ማንም የዐረብ አገር በታሪኩ የሴት ንግሥት ኑሮት አያውቅም ምክንያቱም በዐረብ ባህል ሴቶች የበታች ናቸው። ስለዚህ ንግሥት ሳባ የአበሻ ንግሥት ስለሆኗ ብዙ የታሪክ ምሁራን አረጋግጠዋል። የንግሥት ሳባም ዐረቦችን ታስገብር ነበር። እውነቱ ይኸነው። Thus, you internet fiction about Teff Injera, coffee etc. were imported from Yemen/Arab does not fly. Your fiction is counter intuitive and defy the objective fact , while the rest of the world claim they came out of Ethiopia, your telling them no yo came from Yemen. Among the very few superpower of the world before Roman Empire such as Chinese, Babylon, Indian the Abyssinian Empire/Axumite/ was the most renowned. The Arabs by then were Bedouins roaming with cattle with tens of wives. It would be meaningful if the OLFites spend their time what their Aba Gedda was doing by then when the Bedouins roam and married to ten wives tending then along with their cattle.

[Abere]

@Yaballo,

Does the word Al buna prove that buna originated from there? No, they call it using the Ethiopian word Buna. Buna is a noun its name does not have to necessarily change. What you also forgot is most of the Arabic words are taken from Amharic or Tigregna. There are even scholars who argued Arabic language originated from Abyssinia before it detached from Africa and thrived in the Arab world. Any geographical proximity can result in cultural contact ( like queen Sheba made Saudi Arabia and Yemen as her colonies) but that does not mean warrant to claim others dominant culture. The Abyssinian culture historically had been the most dominant in the horn; Their dominance benefited the Arab Bedouins to absorb cultural elements as a result Arabs borrowed many Amharic/Tigre words in their daily languages.