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የብሄር ፌዴራሊዝም ለኢትዮጵያ የህልዉና ጉዳይ ነዉ፣ ይህ ካልሆነ ግን ላንመለስ እንነሳለን፤ ጃዋር መሀመድ

Post by Hellen » 22 Oct 2019, 16:19

የብሄር ፌዴራሊዝም ለኢትዮጵያ የህልዉና ጉዳይ ነዉ፣ ይህ ካልሆነ ግን ላንመለስ እንነሳለን፤ ጃዋር መሀመድ...ሙሉ የጃዋርን ቃለመጠየቁን ይመልከቱ

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Post by Ethoash » 22 Oct 2019, 17:00

hellen

this is a better video that explain do unto you as you do to others

ለምን ነገሮችን እንደምናካብድ በጣም ይገርመኛል ።

ለምሳሌ አማሮች ወድ ትግሬ የሚሄደውን መንገድ ዘግተው ሲዘርፉ ። ለምን ይገርማቸዋል ቆሮዎች በተራቸው አማራን ሲዘጉት ። ለምን አብይ በዚህ ጉዳይ ይገባል። ለምን በአማሮች ጉዳይ አልገባምና ልክ አይደለም ብሎ ለምን አልተናገረም። አዎ አሁን ትንሽ ጠቀስ አርጎዋል ወደ ትግሬ መንገድ መዘጋቱ ግን ግዜው አልፎበታል ።።

አማራ ሲተርት ሌባን ሌባ ቢስርቀው ምንኛ ቢገርመው ይላል። ለማኝናውም ይህንን ቪድዬ ተመልከቺ ብዙ መልስ ታገኛለሽ ስላም ከፈለግን ስላም መስጠት አለብን በጣም ቀላል ነው። ነገር ካልፈለግን ነገር መቆስቆስ የለብንም





ወደ ፈደራሊዝም ስመጣ አሁንም በጣም ቀላል ነው። ማን ያዘኛል በገዛ አይኔ የሚባል ተረት አለ።
ኦሮም በገዛ አገሩ እንደፈለገው ቢሆን ለምንደነው አማራ ነገር የሚፈልገው። በፍፁም አማሮች ደስ አይላቸውም ኦሮሞዎች በአማሮች ጉዳይ ገብተው ቢፈተፍቱ ታድያ የምን ነገር መፈለግ ነው። አርፈው መቀመጥ ነው ያለባቸው።

ለምሳሌ አማሮች ወልቃይት የአማራ ነው ሲሉ ከርመው ትግሬዎች በተራቸው በቅማንት ጉዳይ ሲገቡ ለምንድነው የሚገርማቸው። አርፎ መቀመጥ አይሻልም ነበር በወልቃይት ጉዳይ። ምን ያህል ወልቃይትን መረዳት ቢፈልጉ በመተናኳልና በፀብ ጫሪነት ሳይሆን በስታራቂ መልኩ ነበር መቅረብ የነበረባቸው። እነሱ ግን የወልቃይት ደም ደሜ ነው ብለው ስላማዊ ስልፍ ። የኦሮሞ ቤተክርስታን አማርኛ ትናገር ብለው ስላማዊ ስልፍ ታድያ ኦሮሞው አፀፋውን ቢመልስ ምኑ ነው የሚገርማቸው።

fed. state system will bringing us peace as long as someone tell those Amhara to keep it to themselves otherwise they will bring Ethiopia down

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 22 Oct 2019, 17:43

Aiga forum says the seemingly different views reflected by Jawar and Co are destruction for TPLF not to take its decisive action on time. Here is some of the messages...

"Two years ago TPLF thought it had reached an understanding with the other parties within EPRDF. TPLF leaders unfortunately did not fully grasp then that ODP and ADP members were in fact simply telling them what they wanted to hear. Ultimately, the faction betrayed them at an opportune timeand used TPLF as a scapegoat for all ills within EPRDF and the country, and even tried to pin poverty-related and other challenges across the country on “Tigrigna” speakers.

" They are failing miserably yet again to recognize that this group was simply telling them what they wanted to hear then and is doing the same now just to buy time until it completes its preparation for an all-out confrontation with TPLF and the people of Tigray. And the recently floated rumor that ODP is split into two, whether true or not, is just another distraction that could very well prevent Tigrayans from planning and preparing for all eventualities. What’s been happening in the Afar region lately should be seen as the precursor? "

http://www.aigaforum.com/article2019/TP ... -part2.htm

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Post by Ethoash » 22 Oct 2019, 18:19

Za-Ilmaknun

there is a doctrine that saying in good faith...for example if u went to Ethiopia and marry a woman and sponsor her to America and as soon as she touch down she ask for divorce then the America law recognized the good faith doctrine and you can send her back to Ethiopia ...

so when OPDO, AND ADP when they make deal with GOLDEN they have to do it in Good faith.. but if they make deal only to make Golden to give them power and turn around to attack them then they didnot do the deal in good faith...

so i have story to tell u TPLF and OLF come to ADDIS ABABA and controlling the whole Nation... the the OLF ask Meles they want article 39 ... mind u when those olf PUT article 39 THEY know they will going to use it as soon as they get chance ..not to use it when time of need..

then Meles told them we just get in.. Golden state cant survived after the war .. her economy is destroyed and they need time until then the oromo can have their own region to govern... i think the OLF have good deal just for waiting until golden economically recover .. but the OLF have none of it they want to break away like yesterday .. meles begged and begged and begged more but the oromo cant flinch from their demand

so the Meles knows he have to take action .. so while the idiot were in camp sleeping the golden surround them and order action to be taken out of 50,000 OLF army only few survived after 27 years the embarrassing OLF ONLY HAD 1500 ARMY who are over 77 years old ....

now the OROMO is going to do the second betrayed... TPLF give them the whole empire in exchange of Golden state .. the tplf royal family mind their own business leave them alone .. if oromo make mistake and start war trust me it would be the Golden a next coming ... this time the tplf will allowed the oromo and Amhara to break away and get the rest of Ethiopia under fed. state.. both oromo and Amhara will not be allowed to have an army .. they will live in poverty trust me on this they will not make it one day they will kill each other why because they dont have art of governing or art of war... that department is taken by golden .. art of talk taken by Amhara art of Bs taken by oromo

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 22 Oct 2019, 19:23

Ethoash wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 18:19
Za-Ilmaknun



i think the OLF have good deal just for waiting until golden economically recover .. but the OLF have none of it they want to break away like yesterday .. meles begged and begged and begged more but the oromo cant flinch from their demand

so the Meles knows he have to take action .. so while the idiot were in camp sleeping the golden surround them and order action to be taken out of 50,000 OLF army only few survived after 27 years the embarrassing OLF ONLY HAD 1500 ARMY who are over 77 years old ....

now the OROMO is going to do the second betrayed... TPLF give them the whole empire in exchange of Golden state .. the tplf royal family mind their own business leave them alone .. if oromo make mistake and start war trust me it would be the Golden a next coming ... this time the tplf will allowed the oromo and Amhara to break away and get the rest of Ethiopia under fed. state.. both oromo and Amhara will not be allowed to have an army .. they will live in poverty trust me on this they will not make it one day they will kill each other why because they dont have art of governing or art of war... that department is taken by golden .. art of talk taken by Amhara art of Bs taken by oromo


The politics in that country has become anything but predictable. Jawar tells TPLF something and and what you hear from the other part of the same party is something in the opposite. What is standing same is the game on the ground. This is politics played like an art. While you bark at the wrong tree, the rag is pulled underneath your feet.

Legesse Zenawi used ANDM and OLF like condoms and throw them to the trash bins. MZ killed 50k Oromo youth and created OPDO as a vassal to replace OLF. You thought it was a smart move when done by your uncle but, considered it as a sin when the same people who are schooled under TPLF's deceptive opportunism turn the table around. Live a bit longer to see the drama still unfolding and more actors coming to the scene. It is a pity !

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Post by Ethoash » 22 Oct 2019, 19:35

Za-Ilmaknun

i already told u , there is such thing as doctrine that saying in good faith


in 1991 the OLF betrayed MELES first demanding independent, why in hell the OLF demand independent that means when they put article 39 .. they were putting it not in good faith .. they same article the put they want to use it next day... do u think MELES would have agreed if the OLF told him they going to break away the next day after they put the article 39 .. he would not agreed to put it on.. anyhow the OLF BETRAYED the meles first and Meles give them counter reply end of story.. that is gone story..

now OPDO agree with TPLF AND TPLF give them the whole empire mind u OLF didnot win by war but it was given to him by TPLF .. WHO STOPPED the TPLF to give the power to Amhara so tplf did u a favor in exchange for safe passage ... once u agree and allowed the safe passage u try to threatened the golden that u going to come and drag them from their hiding place so what do u call this if u dont call it betray of the OLF SECOND COMING .... GUESS WHAT if tplf win the war the second time dont ever cry..

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Post by Dahgol » 22 Oct 2019, 19:42

You reap what you saw, you’re bragging how TPlf betrayed OLF back in the day, and OLF Time is coming soon for the avengering just keep living and just like you laughed when they cried, you time to cry coming soon like a fast train
That’s life, but you low iq people don’t understand how life works
For your kinds, it’s always us vs them and people are paying heavy price for decisions made by elites with mindset like you.
Really sad

quote=Ethoash post_id=970874 time=1571782763 user_id=40513]
Za-Ilmaknun

there is a doctrine that saying in good faith...for example if u went to Ethiopia and marry a woman and sponsor her to America and as soon as she touch down she ask for divorce then the America law recognized the good faith doctrine and you can send her back to Ethiopia ...

so when OPDO, AND ADP when they make deal with GOLDEN they have to do it in Good faith.. but if they make deal only to make Golden to give them power and turn around to attack them then they didnot do the deal in good faith...

so i have story to tell u TPLF and OLF come to ADDIS ABABA and controlling the whole Nation... the the OLF ask Meles they want article 39 ... mind u when those olf PUT article 39 THEY know they will going to use it as soon as they get chance ..not to use it when time of need..

then Meles told them we just get in.. Golden state cant survived after the war .. her economy is destroyed and they need time until then the oromo can have their own region to govern... i think the OLF have good deal just for waiting until golden economically recover .. but the OLF have none of it they want to break away like yesterday .. meles begged and begged and begged more but the oromo cant flinch from their demand

so the Meles knows he have to take action .. so while the idiot were in camp sleeping the golden surround them and order action to be taken out of 50,000 OLF army only few survived after 27 years the embarrassing OLF ONLY HAD 1500 ARMY who are over 77 years old ....

now the OROMO is going to do the second betrayed... TPLF give them the whole empire in exchange of Golden state .. the tplf royal family mind their own business leave them alone .. if oromo make mistake and start war trust me it would be the Golden a next coming ... this time the tplf will allowed the oromo and Amhara to break away and get the rest of Ethiopia under fed. state.. both oromo and Amhara will not be allowed to have an army .. they will live in poverty trust me on this they will not make it one day they will kill each other why because they dont have art of governing or art of war... that department is taken by golden .. art of talk taken by Amhara art of Bs taken by oromo
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Post by Ethoash » 22 Oct 2019, 19:53

Dahgol wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 19:42
You reap what you saw, you’re bragging how TPlf betrayed OLF back in the day, and OLF Time is coming soon for the avengering just keep living and just like you laughed when they cried, you time to cry coming soon like a fast train
That’s life, but you low iq people don’t understand how life works
For your kinds, it’s always us vs them and people are paying heavy price for decisions made by elites with mindset like you.
Really sad

dr. Dahgol,

dont worry about Ato Za-Ilmaknun, he is harmless. yes OLF Betrayed TPLF in 1991 and MELES GIVE THEM what they deserved...


now the OLF try to betrayed the TPLF for second time.. look who give the empire to OLF no other then the TPLF so why in hell would u betrayed them as u said above they forget everything they think they win the war by themselves and think they will run over the Golden .. anyhow if the TPLF come to Addis Abbaa for second time.. oromo will take them another 150 years to come to power..

how many time should i tell this story.. no OLF or kero win the war with gun .. TPLF GIVE U POWER FOUR POINT EVEN ASK BLIND MAN he will tell u no oromo win their victory...

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 22 Oct 2019, 19:59

He is saying those who speaks about justice the TPLF style think that we have already forgotten what we went thru the past 27 years. They are adamant on taking the shares of others just because they are TPLF. Now at the sunset of their lives, they are agitating the Tigrean youth to go and die for them so that they can go to their grave drinking the blue label.


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Post by Selam/ » 22 Oct 2019, 21:10

Woyane loser- How would the victorious OLF betray the dead TPLF that’s not even worth a spit? KIFU!
Ethoash wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 19:53
Dahgol wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 19:42
You reap what you saw, you’re bragging how TPlf betrayed OLF back in the day, and OLF Time is coming soon for the avengering just keep living and just like you laughed when they cried, you time to cry coming soon like a fast train
That’s life, but you low iq people don’t understand how life works
For your kinds, it’s always us vs them and people are paying heavy price for decisions made by elites with mindset like you.
Really sad

dr. Dahgol,

dont worry about Ato Za-Ilmaknun, he is harmless. yes OLF Betrayed TPLF in 1991 and MELES GIVE THEM what they deserved...


now the OLF try to betrayed the TPLF for second time.. look who give the empire to OLF no other then the TPLF so why in hell would u betrayed them as u said above they forget everything they think they win the war by themselves and think they will run over the Golden .. anyhow if the TPLF come to Addis Abbaa for second time.. oromo will take them another 150 years to come to power..

how many time should i tell this story.. no OLF or kero win the war with gun .. TPLF GIVE U POWER FOUR POINT EVEN ASK BLIND MAN he will tell u no oromo win their victory...

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Post by Selam/ » 22 Oct 2019, 21:16

Woyane serpent - How many times did you witness this woman get married and divorced? You have been mentioning her again and again ever since your were cast from heaven. KIFU!
Ethoash wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 18:19
Za-Ilmaknun

there is a doctrine that saying in good faith...for example if u went to Ethiopia and marry a woman and sponsor her to America and as soon as she touch down she ask for divorce then the America law recognized the good faith doctrine and you can send her back to Ethiopia ...

so when OPDO, AND ADP when they make deal with GOLDEN they have to do it in Good faith.. but if they make deal only to make Golden to give them power and turn around to attack them then they didnot do the deal in good faith...

so i have story to tell u TPLF and OLF come to ADDIS ABABA and controlling the whole Nation... the the OLF ask Meles they want article 39 ... mind u when those olf PUT article 39 THEY know they will going to use it as soon as they get chance ..not to use it when time of need..

then Meles told them we just get in.. Golden state cant survived after the war .. her economy is destroyed and they need time until then the oromo can have their own region to govern... i think the OLF have good deal just for waiting until golden economically recover .. but the OLF have none of it they want to break away like yesterday .. meles begged and begged and begged more but the oromo cant flinch from their demand

so the Meles knows he have to take action .. so while the idiot were in camp sleeping the golden surround them and order action to be taken out of 50,000 OLF army only few survived after 27 years the embarrassing OLF ONLY HAD 1500 ARMY who are over 77 years old ....

now the OROMO is going to do the second betrayed... TPLF give them the whole empire in exchange of Golden state .. the tplf royal family mind their own business leave them alone .. if oromo make mistake and start war trust me it would be the Golden a next coming ... this time the tplf will allowed the oromo and Amhara to break away and get the rest of Ethiopia under fed. state.. both oromo and Amhara will not be allowed to have an army .. they will live in poverty trust me on this they will not make it one day they will kill each other why because they dont have art of governing or art of war... that department is taken by golden .. art of talk taken by Amhara art of Bs taken by oromo

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Re: የብሄር ፌዴራሊዝም ለኢትዮጵያ የህልዉና ጉዳይ ነዉ፣ ይህ ካልሆነ ግን ላንመለስ እንነሳለን፤ ጃዋር መሀመድ

Post by Hellen » 23 Oct 2019, 00:07

Hellen wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 16:19
የብሄር ፌዴራሊዝም ለኢትዮጵያ የህልዉና ጉዳይ ነዉ፣ ይህ ካልሆነ ግን ላንመለስ እንነሳለን፤ ጃዋር መሀመድ...ሙሉ የጃዋርን ቃለመጠየቁን ይመልከቱ

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