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[Deqi-Arawit]

Africans and Latin Americans are a scourage of society....no Sense of national pride nor patriotism.....the Chinese are more mad than latin Americans

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[Zack]

the chinese are crazy to think that the latin countries can defend themselves from the usa

[Misraq]

The joke is on those who tried to hide behind China and bark on the United States. China clearly knows its limit. It was slapped in Argentina and now Venezuela. It's attempt to enter into Latin America is foiled by U.S saying "not in my turf".

[Right]

Folks, the Chinese are too smart to fall for this kind of folly’s.

Trump created his own mess. The Chinese gladly watch the show from afar. The US is not going to steal Venezuela’s oil. It cannot.
I don’t think you know much about the determination of the South American left movement. It is not something you can crash with a fast and brazen Armada.
What a gift for the Russians and Chinese to do their own proxy of Ukraine & Taiwan in Latin America.

THEY ARE BACK PEDDLING NOW . THEY SAY THAT THEY WILL NOT RULE VENEZUELA. I WANTED TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD DO IT. THEY SAY THEY WILL PRESSURE BY AN OIL EMBARGO. THERE WAS AN EMBARGO FOR AT LEAST A DECADE. THE WOMAN IS NOT BENDING NOR CAN SHE. THEY ARE PEOPLE IN HER SPHERE WHO WILL FORCE HER OUT IF SHE CAPITULATE. LET TRUMP SEND SOLDIERS ON THE GROUND. ONE TRILLION AND MANY DEAD PEOPLE. THIS CHILD IS UNFIT TO GOVERN. I REPEAT. HE WILL BE IN JAIL IF HE LIVES. THE US WILL SELL HIM TO TRY TO CURB ITS NASTY IMAGE. NOW, MORE OF THE WORLD WOULD LOOK TO CHINA, THE THING THAT DRIVES HIM CRAZY.

[Deqi-Arawit]

The joke is on those who tried to hide behind China and bark on the United States. China clearly knows its limit. It was slapped in Argentina and now Venezuela. It's attempt to enter into Latin America is foiled by U.S saying "not in my turf".

Exactly.
That is also why i am not mad at Putin when he violiated the Charter and invaded Ukraina..... America has the Monroe doctrine and Ukraine is in the sphere of influence of Russia

[Misraq]

The joke is on those who tried to hide behind China and bark on the United States. China clearly knows its limit. It was slapped in Argentina and now Venezuela. It's attempt to enter into Latin America is foiled by U.S saying "not in my turf".

Exactly.
That is also why i am not mad at Putin when he violiated the Charter and invaded Ukraina..... America has the Monroe doctrine and Ukraine is in the sphere of influence of Russia

Yes, one thing most folks don't understand is that the rule of power & sphere of influence when the Roman empire and Persian empire ruled different horizons haven't changed. Big empires are not teddy bears. They are proactive and make sure their interest is in place be it diplomatically or militarily. Venezualla's leader is naive. As a country geographically closer to U.S, he could have avoided all this through certain level of compliance. It is the rule of the game/power when you sit next to a bigger whale.

[Misraq]

Folks, the Chinese are too smart to fall for this kind of folly’s.

Trump created his own mess. The Chinese gladly watch the show from afar. The US is not going to steal Venezuela’s oil. It cannot.
I don’t think you know much about the determination of the South American left movement. It is not something you can crash with a fast and brazen Armada.
What a gift for the Russians and Chinese to do their own proxy of Ukraine & Taiwan in Latin America.

THEY ARE BACK PEDDLING NOW . THEY SAY THAT THEY WILL NOT RULE VENEZUELA. I WANTED TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD DO IT. THEY SAY THEY WILL PRESSURE BY AN OIL EMBARGO. THERE WAS AN EMBARGO FOR AT LEAST A DECADE. THE WOMAN IS NOT BENDING NOR CAN SHE. THEY ARE PEOPLE IN HER SPHERE WHO WILL FORCE HER OUT IF SHE CAPITULATE. LET TRUMP SEND SOLDIERS ON THE GROUND. ONE TRILLION AND MANY DEAD PEOPLE. THIS CHILD IS UNFIT TO GOVERN. I REPEAT. HE WILL BE IN JAIL IF HE LIVES. THE US WILL SELL HIM TO TRY TO CURB ITS NASTY IMAGE. NOW, MORE OF THE WORLD WOULD LOOK TO CHINA, THE THING THAT DRIVES HIM CRAZY.

My dear brother Right,

Ethiopian Unionists don't understand where power enamates. And your narrative here in the Venezualla's case is exactly similar to Ethiopian unionists narrative of the Ethiopian case. I am not against Union/unity when I say this by the way. I am Unionist only when my opponents become unionists. Let me break it down for you.

In Amharic, we have a perfect word for this scenario. It is called ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። Most Latin American leaders don't really have ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። it means they either don't have a good approval rating in the country they govern, or their power is pure dictatorship. Therefore, resistance after their removal doesn't exist at all. In that scenario, friendly foreign forces can't help except watch with disbelief.

Let me take you back to Ethiopia. ደርግ Mengistu never had ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። It was a force that entered into power by violence. It doesn't have a base at people level. It ruled by iron fist and it was dictatorship. When he was removed by rebels, no resistance was formed. People didn't feel sorry and moved on. Learning from this, The rebels in each area made sure they have ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። in the case of TPLF, it put Tigray its base and received support and loyalty enjoying 27 years of power. The same goes for EPLF, and now OLF/OPDO. If you want to go to Addis and try to remove Abiy, his Oromo keens defend him despite having some level of resentment on him

The Afgans built the same type of system. So does the Iranians, the Vietnamese....etc. In short, it is called ethnic nationalism. This is the same system me and you had argued in relation to its power and the reasons you shouldn't underestimate it. Latin American countries are built differently. They are easy to penetrate than some traditional middle eastern countries. See how it is cheaply done in Venezuela than Iraq or Libya. Now, if you expect Venezuela to mount some type of resistance, it is a typical Unionist sentiment where focus and emphasis is given more in the aftermath than the proactive actions that should have been taken, or not understanding the rules of power and how to maintain it.

[Right]

Brother Misraq,
I always enjoy your analysis and wisdom.
You are quite right that the South Americans sometimes lacks principles and convictions to stand on their own by themselves.

Probably, Maduro was snatched so easily because of collaborators from the inside. Low flying attack helicopters with no resistance proves the theory. Maduro has already conceded to the demands of the Americans to let the American oil industry’s in but he refused to go when asked to vacate power. Most of the bodyguards died in the raid are Cubans. That tells you something. Maduro himself doesn’t trust his own elite forces to protect him. Probably, the vice and the rest of the government saw that and worked against him behind his back.
So, it is hard to argue against your point about South Americans.
But that is where the adventure by Trump stops.

He let the secret out. He is a buffoon. He is a man child. He said the Venezuelan natural resources are his and the US will run Venezuela. He made it clear to the whole world that it is not about democracy, not about human rights and not about Venezuelans rather it is all about oil.

330 b barrels *$60/barrel = $18 trillion. America is richer by $18 trillion overnight.
Unprecedented.

Not so fast. It doesn’t matter how well you are organized or not organized at all, natives will find a way to resist and fight back as they did against colonialism.
The US will not succeed stealing Venezuelan oil.

[Deqi-Arawit]

The main reason the Chinese are in mourning is this:
Maduro used to sell his oil not in U.S. dollars, but in Chinese currency. On top of that, China was the largest recipient of Venezuelan oil, receiving as much as 80%.

With Maduro gone, the Belt and Road Initiative is effectively dead in South America. China has poured billions of dollars into investments across the region, and with the stroke of a pen, those investments are going up in flames.

The Chinese are opportunists, and they deserve this kind of humiliation. “Doing nothing” has been their preferred national policy. When Russia invaded Ukraine, instead of taking a firm stand and helping Russia achieve military victory, they simply bought discounted Russian oil and, in return, exported drone technology to both Russia and Ukraine. Saying, “We urge both countries to show restraint,” is not a policy. The Americans act, while the rest — the paper tigers — merely react.

Today, the Americans are moving their armaments into Western Europe in anticipation of striking the Iranian regime. If the United States succeeds in installing a pro-American government in Tehran, China is finished. With no oil coming in, America will dictate the rules and decide how much China is allowed to develop.

PS.
Misraq, The "Mahberawi seret" is more or less a social contract between leadership and its subjects and this contract has higher rate of success in nation building, development and defense if the people are [deleted] people who share the same heartbeat, the same fate and the same destiny. It is lack of Mehberawi seret, all African countries are destined to fail enternally.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Trump putting Venezuela’s interim leader on ‘short leash’ – Politico

The administration of US President Donald Trump is demanding that Venezuela’s interim leader, Delcy Rodriguez, adopt a series of pro-American measures and then expects her to be removed once she complies, Politico reported on Monday, citing sources.

Rodriguez, a former vice president and staunch ally of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, was sworn in as interim president after Maduro was kidnapped by US forces in an unprecedented raid on Caracas. While Rodriguez condemned the US and vowed that the country “will never return to being the colony of another empire,” she has signaled openness to “cooperation” with Washington.

Now, the US wants Rodriguez to crack down on drug trafficking, expel Iranian, Cuban, and other operatives hostile to Washington, and halt oil sales to US adversaries, two Politico sources claimed. US officials also reportedly expect Rodriguez to eventually hold free elections and step aside, though no definite deadlines have been set.

US ‘banditry’ in Venezuela is harbinger of chaos – Moscow
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One person close to the administration told Politico that Rodriguez was on a “short leash,” adding that the Trump team was “confident they can whip her in whatever direction they want before they dispose of her and move on.”

Aside from the threat of launching a second military operation against Venezuela, the US reportedly sees sanctions relief and access to Rodriguez’s financial assets as leverage. However, several Politico sources said they were unaware of any plans to lift sanctions or provide significant humanitarian aid at this stage.

The Trump team is also seeking the release of Americans detained in Venezuela, though people familiar with the matter said Washington has not demanded the release of all Venezuela’s political opposition figures, according to Politico.

However, the odds of Rodrigez complying with the demands are low due to rivalries among Venezuela’s top officials, one person familiar with the matter told the outlet, describing the political landscape as “an unstable pit of vipers.”

President Donald Trump has openly asserted that Washington will “run” Venezuela until an “orderly transition,” while warning that Rodriguez could pay an even “bigger price” than Maduro if she resists US demands.

[Right]

Amateurish and fcken stupid. trump is a mad, uneducated person. He never read a book in his life. He does not read the daily briefings about the state of the world and the US. I said it before that it would take a long time for more oil to get out of Venezuela. You cannot do that now. Oil is dying. Trump is trying to save it. He will lose there too. He is attacking renewable energy sources and development. That is good for China. China will have all the tech to run away with it. In the next three years, while the US is in the wilderness, China will top the world.

The Venezuela oil industry is in tatters. It requires a lot of money and a decade to bring it to a break even point. The US big oil industry is not too keen to invest big in unstable Venezuela. Trump may give them a guarantee of investment but that would be like burning money.
Trump doesn’t have to do this as Venezuela was capitulating in many ways. Now, he blew it on the open arrogantly. The oil is mine and I don’t give a sh$$it for anything else - how stupid is for Trump to say that.

The sanctions are responsible for the state of the industry. So trump is stealing nothing. He is not smart enough to understand. Boots on the ground would make it worse. It is just one fucking huge madness. Unprecedented.
I just don’t see how the US will come out of this debacle.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/05/business ... il-chevron

[Deqi-Arawit]

Amateurish and fcken stupid. trump is a mad, uneducated person. He never read a book in his life. He does not read the daily briefings about the state of the world and the US. I said it before that it would take a long time for more oil to get out of Venezuela. You cannot do that now. Oil is dying. Trump is trying to save it. He will lose there too. He is attacking renewable energy sources and development. That is good for China. China will have all the tech to run away with it. In the next three years, while the US is in the wilderness, China will top the world.

The Venezuela oil industry is in tatters. It requires a lot of money and a decade to bring it to a break even point. The US big oil industry is not too keen to invest big in unstable Venezuela. Trump may give them a guarantee of investment but that would be like burning money.
Trump doesn’t have to do this as Venezuela was capitulating in many ways. Now, he blew it on the open arrogantly. The oil is mine and I don’t give a sh$$it for anything else - how stupid is for Trump to say that.

The sanctions are responsible for the state of the industry. So trump is stealing nothing. He is not smart enough to understand. Boots on the ground would make it worse. It is just one [deleted] huge madness. Unprecedented.
I just don’t see how the US will come out of this debacle.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/05/business ... il-chevron

Your Tere sega eater arse dont seem to understand US policy and Geopolitics. I really recommend you to read The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) . Dumb [deleted]

[Right]

Deqi stupid,

Oh God, another stone head Eris for a teaching.
It is something called ENTROPY. Like everything else Empires rise and die. It is only that the US doesn’t know how to handle it. The British handled their demise masterfully, handing over their colonies and transitioning to a lower role by accepting the rise of the US.
The election of Trump himself is a mishandling of decline.

How long you live, you will die. It is the nature of the universe. It gives us “time” and the death of everything, including the universe itself.
What Trump did in kidnapping Maduro is a sign of decline, just like what they did in Gaza massacring 100k ordinary people with brut force because they can.
No matter how you put it, that will work against the Geopolitical interest of America.
Americans are better than this. The world needs them to behave normal and adjust to the change gracefully.

You are an Eris and too stupid to know anything. That is why you have only 1 president since you were born in a fake environment.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Right, are you by any chance a tere sega eater from Wollo? I think you are a low IQ individual due to famine.

Real politics is in display and you are talking some silly stuff from your [deleted].

[Right]

What a waste of time, you are.

[ethiopianunity]

Folks, the Chinese are too smart to fall for this kind of folly’s.

Trump created his own mess. The Chinese gladly watch the show from afar. The US is not going to steal Venezuela’s oil. It cannot.
I don’t think you know much about the determination of the South American left movement. It is not something you can crash with a fast and brazen Armada.
What a gift for the Russians and Chinese to do their own proxy of Ukraine & Taiwan in Latin America.

THEY ARE BACK PEDDLING NOW . THEY SAY THAT THEY WILL NOT RULE VENEZUELA. I WANTED TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD DO IT. THEY SAY THEY WILL PRESSURE BY AN OIL EMBARGO. THERE WAS AN EMBARGO FOR AT LEAST A DECADE. THE WOMAN IS NOT BENDING NOR CAN SHE. THEY ARE PEOPLE IN HER SPHERE WHO WILL FORCE HER OUT IF SHE CAPITULATE. LET TRUMP SEND SOLDIERS ON THE GROUND. ONE TRILLION AND MANY DEAD PEOPLE. THIS CHILD IS UNFIT TO GOVERN. I REPEAT. HE WILL BE IN JAIL IF HE LIVES. THE US WILL SELL HIM TO TRY TO CURB ITS NASTY IMAGE. NOW, MORE OF THE WORLD WOULD LOOK TO CHINA, THE THING THAT DRIVES HIM CRAZY.

My dear brother Right,

Ethiopian Unionists don't understand where power enamates. And your narrative here in the Venezualla's case is exactly similar to Ethiopian unionists narrative of the Ethiopian case. I am not against Union/unity when I say this by the way. I am Unionist only when my opponents become unionists. Let me break it down for you.

In Amharic, we have a perfect word for this scenario. It is called ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። Most Latin American leaders don't really have ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። it means they either don't have a good approval rating in the country they govern, or their power is pure dictatorship. Therefore, resistance after their removal doesn't exist at all. In that scenario, friendly foreign forces can't help except watch with disbelief.

Let me take you back to Ethiopia. ደርግ Mengistu never had ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። It was a force that entered into power by violence. It doesn't have a base at people level. It ruled by iron fist and it was dictatorship. When he was removed by rebels, no resistance was formed. People didn't feel sorry and moved on. Learning from this, The rebels in each area made sure they have ማህበረሰባዊ መሰረት። in the case of TPLF, it put Tigray its base and received support and loyalty enjoying 27 years of power. The same goes for EPLF, and now OLF/OPDO. If you want to go to Addis and try to remove Abiy, his Oromo keens defend him despite having some level of resentment on him

The Afgans built the same type of system. So does the Iranians, the Vietnamese....etc. In short, it is called ethnic nationalism. This is the same system me and you had argued in relation to its power and the reasons you shouldn't underestimate it. Latin American countries are built differently. They are easy to penetrate than some traditional middle eastern countries. See how it is cheaply done in Venezuela than Iraq or Libya. Now, if you expect Venezuela to mount some type of resistance, it is a typical Unionist sentiment where focus and emphasis is given more in the aftermath than the proactive actions that should have been taken, or not understanding the rules of power and how to maintain it.

Different opinions, l like. However, that maybe true what you said Misraq, but geography is different, where you are located matters: Latin Americans are close proximity to the U.S superpower, strong and aggressive. For many years the U.S has clashed with Latin American countries,,especially the leaders who are converted by the West such as Pinochet in Chile to be brutal against his people, or pro nationalists who are loved by his people such as Allende but hated by U.S because hi independence from U.S thinking, or the leaders are communists who are deluded such as Castro of Cuba. These nations will never win or be independent free from U.S. this is the reason, leaders or the people would not retaliate against superpower, period. What is sad is that the actions of the Chinese flirting with all over nations around the world, has been making the nations it's flirting with a target. Once that happens, the Chinese shy away from defending these nations from superpowers nations: Lybia, Yemen, Venezuela, every where China goes, West is there because it's competition. Russia did the same thing in Syria , lran.

[ethiopianunity]

What l love about America is it wins all the time because it is realist!! America's action today is not because it is weak today but what could happen 50 years down the line if they don't act now in offensive. Pretty much correct! It is working to protect the interest of the nation so it is constantly in good shape. America is not stupid what will happen if China and Russia have more influence in L America because it will create a situation just like the insecurity that Russia is feeling today with Ukraine weaponized against it. U. S is preventing this situation ahead in S America!

[ethiopianunity]

Right, are you by any chance a tere sega eater from Wollo? I think you are a low IQ individual due to famine.

Real politics is in display and you are talking some silly stuff from your [deleted].

Donald Trump is actually maybe the greatest president and probably in the world if what is being said about him is true. You do not take his words straight. His actions is exactly as it should be. He was elected to MAGA and unfortunately his priority is U.S first and foremost. That is why he sounds bad to others. He is honest and in your face.

[Right]

He is honest and in your face.

It means you don’t know a honest person. Trump means corruption & bully’s in one sentence.

You think like a MAGA. I know for sure the MAGAs are less educated and less bright. To put it mildly.
Trump has already failed, and it is getting worse by the day.
The kidnapping of a sitting president on charges of drug trafficking while pardoning the ex Honduras president who is a real trafficker says it all.