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Post by Selam/ » 10 Dec 2025, 08:43

We can debate architecture on another thread, recognizing the fact that aesthetic is subjective to the most part (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). For example, I consider National Theatre to be one of the best public buildings and urban structures in Addis. Most of the so-called new or “modern buildings” are copied from elsewhere & they are boring, hardly respect the urban fabric nor reflect the place & culture they are built in.

For example, I consider these buildings to be random & ugly:












I don’t want to generalize because there are impressive new buildings such as the new Lideta Mall, the new buildings for the Commercial Bank of Ethiopia & African Union, Abrehot Library, embassy of the Netherlands, S.A. Embassy, etc.
Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 03:04
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 22:25
The building doesn’t bother me as far as I am concerned. What I hate is the content & exterior alterations:

Let me explain;

- Installing the tribalist cadres, Genet Gudit & Biramtu Nega right in front of the historic Meyazia 27 Square is disgraceful & incompatible with the heritage.
- The building was designed with the intent that it embraces & complement the square while it remains open & accessible to the public. Cursed Derg, Woyane & PP came in & fenced and closed it off from the public, making the building feel like an urban-center jail.
- Idiotic PP cadres painted the exterior with a bright blue color, reducing the original monumental elegance to a children’s book illustration.



Odie wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:41
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:30
2.3 Million Failed Before, Half a Million Failed This Year: Ethiopia Can No Longer Deny Its Education Crisis

You know I hate that building. I wish MoE got some better modern building and that building was removed. For some reason, I hate the architecture, and it is old.

Well, the country is "blessed" with a colonel who all the time enjoys war and conflict. We were told he said, 2/3 of Ethiopians are nonproductive and should be spent on something useful including for fighting. So, the youth failed schooling means good news for PP :lol: It won't worry to hire them with no degree (jobs are not available even with degrees as we were told) and more youth to recruit for war to deal with the "lice" :lol:
It may have been well designed and beautiful at its time. That is why it is still standing strong. It may be historical. However aesthetically it is no more appealing for the current age in my openion. I have been inside and I don’t like it personally. I don’t like it the way maintained. As it is a gov structure it is not maintained well. I also associate it with bad people the likes of Genet etc and I don’t like it. Also it does not fit the era. The same for ብሄራዊ theater. Both structures need to be preserved for historical reasons may be as kind of museum (education in Ethiopia museum and theater in Ethiopia museum) and build new state of the art buildings for MoE and National theater when the country is at peace with itself from this forum to the whole nation.
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Post by Selam/ » 10 Dec 2025, 08:50

ብሄርንና እናትን የሚሳደብ ሰው ለኢትዮጵያ ሃገሬ እጨነቃለሁ ብሎ ቢንፈራፈርና ዕሪሪሪሪ ቢል፣ ጉሮሮው ይሰነጠቃል እንጂ ከእኔ ከሰላም የውሻ አክብሮት እንኳን አያገኝም። ወራዳና አጭበርባሪ ስለሆነ፣ በአፍጢሙ ይተከል!

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Post by Right » 10 Dec 2025, 08:56

ሴተኛ አዳሪ ልጅ
Horsie,
Where is this demeaning mothers and disrespect to women came from? You used it constantly when you are cornered. That tells us who you are.

By the way do not call others a woyannies while embracing tight the brain child of the Weyannies.

Who saved the woyannies from annihilation in the middle of a decisive war by making a secret deal behind the warriors?
You are such stupid even your old age couldn’t help.

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Post by Odie » 10 Dec 2025, 08:56

Selam/ wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 08:43
We can debate architecture on another thread, recognizing the fact that aesthetic is subjective to the most part (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). For example, I consider National Theatre to be one of the best public buildings and urban structures in Addis. Most of the so-called new or “modern buildings” are copied from elsewhere & they are boring, hardly respect the urban fabric nor reflect the place & culture they are built in.

For example, I consider this buildings to be random & ugly:










I don’t want to generalize because there are impressive new buildings such as the new Lideta Mall, the new buildings for the Commercial Bank of Ethiopia & African Union, Abrehot Library, embassy of the Netherlands, etc.
Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 03:04
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 22:25
The building doesn’t bother me as far as I am concerned. What I hate is the content & exterior alterations:

Let me explain;

- Installing the tribalist cadres, Genet Gudit & Biramtu Nega right in front of the historic Meyazia 27 Square is disgraceful & incompatible with the heritage.
- The building was designed with the intent that it embraces & complement the square while it remains open & accessible to the public. Cursed Derg, Woyane & PP came in & fenced and closed it off from the public, making the building feel like an urban-center jail.
- Idiotic PP cadres painted the exterior with a bright blue color, reducing the original monumental elegance to a children’s book illustration.



Odie wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:41
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:30
2.3 Million Failed Before, Half a Million Failed This Year: Ethiopia Can No Longer Deny Its Education Crisis

You know I hate that building. I wish MoE got some better modern building and that building was removed. For some reason, I hate the architecture, and it is old.

Well, the country is "blessed" with a colonel who all the time enjoys war and conflict. We were told he said, 2/3 of Ethiopians are nonproductive and should be spent on something useful including for fighting. So, the youth failed schooling means good news for PP :lol: It won't worry to hire them with no degree (jobs are not available even with degrees as we were told) and more youth to recruit for war to deal with the "lice" :lol:
It may have been well designed and beautiful at its time. That is why it is still standing strong. It may be historical. However aesthetically it is no more appealing for the current age in my openion. I have been inside and I don’t like it personally. I don’t like it the way maintained. As it is a gov structure it is not maintained well. I also associate it with bad people the likes of Genet etc and I don’t like it. Also it does not fit the era. The same for ብሄራዊ theater. Both structures need to be preserved for historical reasons may be as kind of museum (education in Ethiopia museum and theater in Ethiopia museum) and build new state of the art buildings for MoE and National theater when the country is at peace with itself from this forum to the whole nation.
ያንተንም/የነሱንም አድናቂ አይደለሁም!
One is a rotten old building the other one is built under corruption and perhaps by not a good engineer/archiect.
Don’t waste your time with me. I am not a cadre or a politician. I just express my opinion. The country has changed and need change in politics, development and way of thinking etc. Although I share some of your love for your identity and nationalism, I don’t share some of your fixed views. I don’t believe the current way the country is managed is right too. It is out right worse than dangerous.

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Post by Selam/ » 10 Dec 2025, 10:07

አድናቂ?

What the heck are you talking about? Did I ask you to embellish me or others? And who is “የነሱ?” And what has my opinion on good and bad architecture anything to do with “cadres?”

Abrehot is built recently and it’s a beautiful piece of art but i would be dishonest to lump it up with ugly buildings just because I dislike PP. Likewise, Lideta Mall was built during Woyane. Whereas so many disgusting buildings were built during Derg, such as the Ethiopian Parliament, Ethiopian Television, Ethiopian Shipping Lines, etc. The National Theatre aka Cinema Marconi doesn’t have a poetic history as it was originated during fascist Italy. While I detest colonialism, I advocate for preservation of their irreplaceable building heritages.

Strange that you short-circuited & took my comments personal!

Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 08:56


ያንተንም/የነሱንም አድናቂ አይደለሁም!
One is a rotten old building the other one is built under corruption and perhaps by not a good engineer/archiect.
Don’t waste your time with me. I am not a cadre or a politician. I just express my opinion. The country has changed and need change in politics, development and way of thinking etc. Although I share some of your love for your identity and nationalism, I don’t share some of your fixed views. I don’t believe the current way the country is managed is right too. It is out right worse than dangerous.

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Post by Naga Tuma » 10 Dec 2025, 13:25

Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:30
Ethiopia Can No Longer Deny Its Education Crisis
Miraculously, this is the kind of thought that preoccupied me after my comments here yesterday:

Can you explain how anyone with a marginal intelligence may be able to work with anyone else who lacks that marginal intelligence?

FACT: Among others, I engaged you and Semira on this forum shortly after I joined it over 18 years ago. I engaged because I got the impression that you both had an enlightened rational thinking.

Sadly, I ignored both of you shortly after my attempts because each of you gave me the impression that you are out of touch about an enlightened discussion. You even went to the extent of accusing me that you know the source of the word enlightenment. I passed it in amusement.

Another participant that I engaged, who was willing to respond, was hmantes. Even if we disagreed on an issue, his rationalism suggested to me that he was the kind of participant I could have a meaningful discussion with. He has taken a leave of absence from this forum, at least by that screen name.

I do not know each of you personally.

So many years later, did you have the educational qualifications to answer a simple question rationally and meaningfully?

You are a symptom of Ethiopia’s educational crisis.You aren’t alone.

Reflecting that preoccupied much of my time after my comments yesterday until I read your title and said to myself this is it.

My reflections showed:

ትምህርት ቤት ሄዶ መመረቅ እንደ ሰካራሞች ሆኖ ወጥቶ ሃገርን መበጥበጥ ሙያቸዉ ያደረጉት የበጠበጧትን ሃገር ለመጠገን የዐቅሜን ያህል ስጥር ኖርኩኝ።

ዉሳኔ 96ን ከታሪክ መፋቅ ኣይቻልም።

ከዉሳኔ 96 እስከዛሬ ያለዉ ስለ ኢትዮጵያ ትረካን ከታሪክ መፋቅ ኣይቻልም።

ይህን ማሰብ ተስኖት እዚህ መድረክ ላይ ካሉት ተሳታፊዎች ኣልፎ ተሳዳቢ ምን ዐይነት የሰዉ ልጅ ነዉ?

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Post by Naga Tuma » 10 Dec 2025, 13:48

Right wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 01:15
Education is dead in Ethiopia.
Granted that you gained much of your education during Atse Haile Selassie or from his efforts to educate Ethiopians, you make him prophetic that his history rises if his efforts in Ethiopia for Ethiopia dies.

Who was it that said ኩኖ ዲጌ? Was the Almighty having him miraculously sit at a ሸነቸ or for it? These two words alone are enough to reveal human stupidity.
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Post by Naga Tuma » 10 Dec 2025, 13:59

ይህ ሁሉ ዕረፍት ኣልባ የባህል ኣልባነት ስድብ በኣንድ አፍ የኢትዮጵያ እግዝኣብሔር እና እየሱስ ለማለት ነዉ።

ከስደት በፊት ህያዉ የነበረዉ እና ህያዉ ሆኖ የኖረዉ እና ህያዉ ሆኖ የሚኖር እግዝኣብሔር ባርነትን ኣይወድም። ባርነትን ኣይፈቅድም።
Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 03:26
Messed up country!
Messed up politicians
Messed up politics
እርስ በርስ የሚያባላ መንፈስ የተለቀቀበት ምድር
ስው በቂ ምግብ ሳይበላ እርስ በርስ በዘር ተቧድኖ የሚባላባት
Rational thought የጠፋባት ምድር
እርስ በርስ ከፍ ዝቅ ብሎ ስው የሚሳደብባት ምድር
የኔ ዘር ይበልጥ ያንተ ያንስ ንትርክ የሞላባት አገር
ፈሪሃ እግዚአብሄር አለኝ የሚል ስው እንኳ ስው የሚያጭድበት ሃይማኖት ወደ ሞራልና የህይወት አመራር ያልተለወጠበት
መሪ ነኝ ባይ እንደመጣለት ስው ለማጥፋት የሚፎክርባት ምድር
ኢትዮዽያ መቼ ይሆን እህል ውሃሽ ህዝቡና ምድሩ የሚፈወስው? ስው መባላት ሳይሆን መከባበርን መፋቀር የሚጀምረው?
ተማርኩ የሚለው እንኳን የራስ የራሱን ስንካላም ይሁን ሌላ መንገድ ይዞ የሚቆራቆስው ለተራው ስው ማን ይቆምለት ይሆን!
ምድሪቱንም ህዝቡንም እግዚአብሄር ያስብ:: ክፉዎች እንደመንገዳቸው ይሁንባቸው:: ልባቸው እግዚአብሄር ይቀይር:: በአጋንንት ተመርተው የሚበጠብጡ በባእድ አምልኮ ከውስጥም ከውጭም አምጥተው ምድሪቱን የሚበጠብጡ ከዚህ ፎረም ጀምሮ እቅዳቸውና ሃሳባቸው ይበተን የሚመራቸው ይታስር!! መንግስት መስሎ በጥንቆላ በመተት በውሽት ትንቢት የቆመ ደም መጣጭ ከእ/ር ዘንድ ያልሆነ ሃይል ይፍረስ:: ምድሪቱ ከዘር ፓለቲካ ወደስላምና እረፍት ትውጣ!
In the name of the living God, Jesus the son the father and the spirit that keeps this planet alive!

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Post by Odie » 10 Dec 2025, 15:39

Selam/ wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 10:07
አድናቂ?

What the heck are you talking about? Did I ask you to embellish me or others? And who is “የነሱ?” And what has my opinion on good and bad architecture anything to do with “cadres?”

Abrehot is built recently and it’s a beautiful piece of art but i would be dishonest to lump it up with ugly buildings just because I dislike PP. Likewise, Lideta Mall was built during Woyane. Whereas so many disgusting buildings were built during Derg, such as the Ethiopian Parliament, Ethiopian Television, Ethiopian Shipping Lines, etc. The National Theatre aka Cinema Marconi doesn’t have a poetic history as it was originated during fascist Italy. While I detest colonialism, I advocate for preservation of their irreplaceable building heritages.

Strange that you short-circuited & took my comments personal!

Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 08:56


ያንተንም/የነሱንም አድናቂ አይደለሁም!
One is a rotten old building the other one is built under corruption and perhaps by not a good engineer/archiect.
Don’t waste your time with me. I am not a cadre or a politician. I just express my opinion. The country has changed and need change in politics, development and way of thinking etc. Although I share some of your love for your identity and nationalism, I don’t share some of your fixed views. I don’t believe the current way the country is managed is right too. It is out right worse than dangerous.
Calm down!
I don’t care about the comparison of buildings you presented. ከበደ ይመጣል የመስለውን ገንብቶ ይሄዳል:: ቀጀላ ይመጣል ትንሽ ይስርቅና የመስለውን ገንብቶ ይሄዳል::
አንዱ አንዱን ይንቃል ሌላኛው ሌላውን::
I said I hate the old MoE building which was built to serve for its time which it has passed and I felt the building needed to be changed. Nothing political or other. And you go to your old file and post how it was constructed and how architecturally sound it was vs the current corrupt way of building. I think there was no need for that. Also you could be very inflexible in your argument at times. You need to be open minded and look things at different angle. You feel everything Ethiopian is the best. The religion, the culture the system etc. But you talk about carbon count which is not even Ethiopian idea. You are trying to push your carbon count liberal idea but you should respect that many Ethiopians love meat too. Nothing stays the way it is and has to change. Change is a natural process. Personally I like people who are open minded, flexible when convinced and not dogmatic.
Good for you to be vegetarian and suggest to people as a good option but you ca not oughtright force this idea into others. You may follow alternative medicine but that does not mean it is the best choice for everybody.
It is good to be open minded, flexible and know when not oppose and oppose with reasonable arguement.
This post, again, has nothing to do with your political view. In fact I enjoy most of your posts and nothing subjective attack on you!

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Post by Right » 10 Dec 2025, 18:02

Granted that you gained much of your education during Atse Haile Selassie or from his efforts to educate Ethiopians, you make him prophetic that his history rises if his efforts in Ethiopia for Ethiopia dies.

Who was it that said ኩኖ ዲጌ? These two words alone are enough to reveal human stupidity.
Nega Doma,
Always vague and confused. It would have been a privilege to come out of the educational institution of emperor Haile Selassie. And I would have figured out the plot of Horus and the students movement to harm the beautiful country and destroy it before it takes root.
Unfortunately I am from a different generation who is trying to clean out the mess Horus and his comrades left to the down to earth people of Ethiopia.
And they are still fucking around and breeding the likes of you.

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Post by Dama » 10 Dec 2025, 19:20

Misraq wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 01:21
Dama wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 21:56
This guy Selam is just untouchable. He goes haywire for any small thing. Ignores nothing. Not in his nature. Mean. That's the word.

Brother Daessa
If anyone that can get to your tiny brains nerve, it has to be Selam :lol: :lol:

I wouldn't have thought a tiny bit that a mere criticism of BirAntu Nega can unsettle you this much :mrgreen:
No. No. No.
He ain't criticizing Birratu Naga for failing Ethiopia's education. I did that job. I opened a thread on him and many participated with constructive points.
This bigot is talking how bad education is only to prejudice Gurage by the vehicle of one individual who was not born in Gurage, not raised in Gurage culture, language and history, no assets in Gurage, doesn't visit Gurage, harms Gurage in many ways and married to an Amara. His children are US citizens born in US.
Selam is a certified Gurage hater son of a p*mp. Odious the Amara slave loves him for that

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Post by Selam/ » 10 Dec 2025, 19:50

Buddy, when did I say I am vegetarian?

I said aesthetics are fundamentally subjective. You hate old buildings just for the reason that they are old and I argued that generalization is dangerous. For example, I would demolish the old ministry of defense because it doesn’t fit in the current urban fabric & it’s an eyesore and has no public relevance what so ever. I love MoE and National Theatre. What are going to do about it? Do you want me to say “I hate them” just to appease you.

Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 15:39
Selam/ wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 10:07
አድናቂ?

What the heck are you talking about? Did I ask you to embellish me or others? And who is “የነሱ?” And what has my opinion on good and bad architecture anything to do with “cadres?”

Abrehot is built recently and it’s a beautiful piece of art but i would be dishonest to lump it up with ugly buildings just because I dislike PP. Likewise, Lideta Mall was built during Woyane. Whereas so many disgusting buildings were built during Derg, such as the Ethiopian Parliament, Ethiopian Television, Ethiopian Shipping Lines, etc. The National Theatre aka Cinema Marconi doesn’t have a poetic history as it was originated during fascist Italy. While I detest colonialism, I advocate for preservation of their irreplaceable building heritages.

Strange that you short-circuited & took my comments personal!

Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 08:56


ያንተንም/የነሱንም አድናቂ አይደለሁም!
One is a rotten old building the other one is built under corruption and perhaps by not a good engineer/archiect.
Don’t waste your time with me. I am not a cadre or a politician. I just express my opinion. The country has changed and need change in politics, development and way of thinking etc. Although I share some of your love for your identity and nationalism, I don’t share some of your fixed views. I don’t believe the current way the country is managed is right too. It is out right worse than dangerous.
Calm down!
I don’t care about the comparison of buildings you presented. ከበደ ይመጣል የመስለውን ገንብቶ ይሄዳል:: ቀጀላ ይመጣል ትንሽ ይስርቅና የመስለውን ገንብቶ ይሄዳል::
አንዱ አንዱን ይንቃል ሌላኛው ሌላውን::
I said I hate the old MoE building which was built to serve for its time which it has passed and I felt the building needed to be changed. Nothing political or other. And you go to your old file and post how it was constructed and how architecturally sound it was vs the current corrupt way of building. I think there was no need for that. Also you could be very inflexible in your argument at times. You need to be open minded and look things at different angle. You feel everything Ethiopian is the best. The religion, the culture the system etc. But you talk about carbon count which is not even Ethiopian idea. You are trying to push your carbon count liberal idea but you should respect that many Ethiopians love meat too. Nothing stays the way it is and has to change. Change is a natural process. Personally I like people who are open minded, flexible when convinced and not dogmatic.
Good for you to be vegetarian and suggest to people as a good option but you ca not oughtright force this idea into others. You may follow alternative medicine but that does not mean it is the best choice for everybody.
It is good to be open minded, flexible and know when not oppose and oppose with reasonable arguement.
This post, again, has nothing to do with your political view. In fact I enjoy most of your posts and nothing subjective attack on you!
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Post by Selam/ » 10 Dec 2025, 20:05

ዶማው ገገማው
እናቶችን የሚሰድብና የትግሬንና የአማራን ህዝቦች በአጠቃላይ የሚጠላ ቁሬማ እኔን ሰላምን አብሬ ያደጉበትን ማህበረሰብ አትወድም ቢሎ ሲከሰኝ፣ ለምን እንደ ዱባ ፍሬ ተዘቅዝቀህ አትሰቀልም እለዋለሁ።

ቲፎዞ ለማግኘት ብለህ እንደ ልክስክስ ውሻ ለመጣው ሁሉ ስታለከልክ ታሳዝነኛለህ። እኔ ሰላም ሰው እንዲወደኝ ብዬ አስተያየት አልሰጥም በተለይ 95%ቱ አጭበርባሪ ሌባ በሆነበት በዚህ ፎረም ላይ። ፈንዳ!
Dama wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 19:20
Misraq wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 01:21
Dama wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 21:56
This guy Selam is just untouchable. He goes haywire for any small thing. Ignores nothing. Not in his nature. Mean. That's the word.

Brother Daessa
If anyone that can get to your tiny brains nerve, it has to be Selam :lol: :lol:

I wouldn't have thought a tiny bit that a mere criticism of BirAntu Nega can unsettle you this much :mrgreen:
No. No. No.
He ain't criticizing Birratu Naga for failing Ethiopia's education. I did that job. I opened a thread on him and many participated with constructive points.
This bigot is talking how bad education is only to prejudice Gurage by the vehicle of one individual who was not born in Gurage, not raised in Gurage culture, language and history, no assets in Gurage, doesn't visit Gurage, harms Gurage in many ways and married to an Amara. His children are US citizens born in US.
Selam is a certified Gurage hater son of a p*mp. Odious the Amara slave loves him for that

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Post by Odie » 10 Dec 2025, 20:31

Selam/ wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 08:43
We can debate architecture on another thread, recognizing the fact that aesthetic is subjective to the most part (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). For example, I consider National Theatre to be one of the best public buildings and urban structures in Addis. Most of the so-called new or “modern buildings” are copied from elsewhere & they are boring, hardly respect the urban fabric nor reflect the place & culture they are built in.

For example, I consider these buildings to be random & ugly:












I don’t want to generalize because there are impressive new buildings such as the new Lideta Mall, the new buildings for the Commercial Bank of Ethiopia & African Union, Abrehot Library, embassy of the Netherlands, S.A. Embassy, etc.
Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 03:04
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 22:25
The building doesn’t bother me as far as I am concerned. What I hate is the content & exterior alterations:

Let me explain;

- Installing the tribalist cadres, Genet Gudit & Biramtu Nega right in front of the historic Meyazia 27 Square is disgraceful & incompatible with the heritage.
- The building was designed with the intent that it embraces & complement the square while it remains open & accessible to the public. Cursed Derg, Woyane & PP came in & fenced and closed it off from the public, making the building feel like an urban-center jail.
- Idiotic PP cadres painted the exterior with a bright blue color, reducing the original monumental elegance to a children’s book illustration.



Odie wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:41
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:30
2.3 Million Failed Before, Half a Million Failed This Year: Ethiopia Can No Longer Deny Its Education Crisis

You know I hate that building. I wish MoE got some better modern building and that building was removed. For some reason, I hate the architecture, and it is old.

Well, the country is "blessed" with a colonel who all the time enjoys war and conflict. We were told he said, 2/3 of Ethiopians are nonproductive and should be spent on something useful including for fighting. So, the youth failed schooling means good news for PP :lol: It won't worry to hire them with no degree (jobs are not available even with degrees as we were told) and more youth to recruit for war to deal with the "lice" :lol:
It may have been well designed and beautiful at its time. That is why it is still standing strong. It may be historical. However aesthetically it is no more appealing for the current age in my openion. I have been inside and I don’t like it personally. I don’t like it the way maintained. As it is a gov structure it is not maintained well. I also associate it with bad people the likes of Genet etc and I don’t like it. Also it does not fit the era. The same for ብሄራዊ theater. Both structures need to be preserved for historical reasons may be as kind of museum (education in Ethiopia museum and theater in Ethiopia museum) and build new state of the art buildings for MoE and National theater when the country is at peace with itself from this forum to the whole nation.

That is right!
I said aesthetically because I am not an architect or structural engineer by training which I suspect you have some background. The frame of the old MoE building looks quite great and probably was a wonder project at its time. And it was built following a standard.
I also appreciate your taste for old things such as National theater in ለገሃር a place I grew up. I thought the country deserves better, more technologically advanced bigger theater building than that. The same for the MoE building. But not something to talk about it now as the country has more serious problems such as lack of peace, wanton killing, detention, corruption…and for the majority food security and security for existence is a big issue.
I just feel it may be wasting time on discussing issues like this is and close it here.

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Post by Selam/ » 10 Dec 2025, 21:06

Let’s leave it at that & hammer the PP dogs!

Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 20:31
Selam/ wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 08:43
We can debate architecture on another thread, recognizing the fact that aesthetic is subjective to the most part (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). For example, I consider National Theatre to be one of the best public buildings and urban structures in Addis. Most of the so-called new or “modern buildings” are copied from elsewhere & they are boring, hardly respect the urban fabric nor reflect the place & culture they are built in.

For example, I consider these buildings to be random & ugly:












I don’t want to generalize because there are impressive new buildings such as the new Lideta Mall, the new buildings for the Commercial Bank of Ethiopia & African Union, Abrehot Library, embassy of the Netherlands, S.A. Embassy, etc.
Odie wrote:
10 Dec 2025, 03:04
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 22:25
The building doesn’t bother me as far as I am concerned. What I hate is the content & exterior alterations:

Let me explain;

- Installing the tribalist cadres, Genet Gudit & Biramtu Nega right in front of the historic Meyazia 27 Square is disgraceful & incompatible with the heritage.
- The building was designed with the intent that it embraces & complement the square while it remains open & accessible to the public. Cursed Derg, Woyane & PP came in & fenced and closed it off from the public, making the building feel like an urban-center jail.
- Idiotic PP cadres painted the exterior with a bright blue color, reducing the original monumental elegance to a children’s book illustration.



Odie wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:41
Selam/ wrote:
09 Dec 2025, 20:30
2.3 Million Failed Before, Half a Million Failed This Year: Ethiopia Can No Longer Deny Its Education Crisis

You know I hate that building. I wish MoE got some better modern building and that building was removed. For some reason, I hate the architecture, and it is old.

Well, the country is "blessed" with a colonel who all the time enjoys war and conflict. We were told he said, 2/3 of Ethiopians are nonproductive and should be spent on something useful including for fighting. So, the youth failed schooling means good news for PP :lol: It won't worry to hire them with no degree (jobs are not available even with degrees as we were told) and more youth to recruit for war to deal with the "lice" :lol:
It may have been well designed and beautiful at its time. That is why it is still standing strong. It may be historical. However aesthetically it is no more appealing for the current age in my openion. I have been inside and I don’t like it personally. I don’t like it the way maintained. As it is a gov structure it is not maintained well. I also associate it with bad people the likes of Genet etc and I don’t like it. Also it does not fit the era. The same for ብሄራዊ theater. Both structures need to be preserved for historical reasons may be as kind of museum (education in Ethiopia museum and theater in Ethiopia museum) and build new state of the art buildings for MoE and National theater when the country is at peace with itself from this forum to the whole nation.

That is right!
I said aesthetically because I am not an architect or structural engineer by training which I suspect you have some background. The frame of the old MoE building looks quite great and probably was a wonder project at its time. And it was built following a standard.
I also appreciate your taste for old things such as National theater in ለገሃር a place I grew up. I thought the country deserves better, more technologically advanced bigger theater building than that. The same for the MoE building. But not something to talk about it now as the country has more serious problems such as lack of peace, wanton killing, detention, corruption…and for the majority food security and security for existence is a big issue.
I just feel it may be wasting time on discussing issues like this is and close it here.

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Post by Dama » 10 Dec 2025, 22:33

This sounds like the clash of Birratu Naga with Engineer Hailu Shawel in matters of Kinijit.

Odius favoring modernization of city buildings. Selam favoring to save old architecture in their places and building new ones in accordance with local tase and in the suburbs of Ethiopian cities and towns without defining the local taste.

They fought enough until each got tired. They have not gone their separate ways as did Birratu and Shawel. Birratu to PP. Shawel to his grave.

What an end! Destinations they never had imagined.

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Post by Selam/ » 11 Dec 2025, 08:12

ዶማው ገገማው
በቅንጅት ስም ገንዘቤን የበላውን አቶ ብር አምጡ ነጋን ማለትህ ነው? እንዳንተው የፒፒ ውታፍ ነቃይ ካድሬ እኮ ነው።



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