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King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Zack » 09 Sep 2025, 21:19

“We need to build a dam on the Nile. If we don’t, our grandchildren will.”
King Haille sellasie quote

This quote reflects Haile Selassie’s early recognition of the strategic importance of the Nile River and Ethiopia's right to use its waters. While he did not initiate GERD, he envisioned using the Blue Nile for Ethiopia’s development, and his sentiment is seen as prophetic by many Ethiopians today indeed.

Congrats Ethiopia


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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Sep 2025, 21:35

Ethiopian kings, such as Zara Yaqob and Amda Seyon I, made hypothetical threats to divert the Nile from Egypt, often to exert diplomatic pressure on Muslim sultans during times of persecution of Egyptian Coptic Christians. These claims, which were primarily symbolic and not based on a credible plan to physically divert the massive river, date back to the 12th and 13th centuries and were made in response to religious conflicts.

For centuries, Ethiopian emperors used the "pretension" of diverting the Blue Nile as a way to assert their power over the river and its downstream flow to Egypt.

King Zara Yaqob (15th century):
One prominent example is Zara Yaqob, who threatened to divert the Nile to stop the Mamluk Sultans' persecution of Copts in Egypt.



Emperor Amda Seyon I (circa 1320):
Around 1320, the Mamluk Sultan of Cairo began persecuting Coptic Orthodox Christians, and Amda Seyon I threatened to divert the Nile's flow to stop this persecution.



Nature of the Threats
Diplomatic Leverage:

These threats were symbolic political statements, not seriously considered engineering projects. The vast geological barriers, such as the Red Sea hills, and the sheer scale of the task would have made diverting the Nile an impossible feat with the available technology of the time.

Modern Context
Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD):
In contrast to historical threats, modern Ethiopia is not diverting the Nile but instead building the GERD, a dam to generate electricity and support its development.

So Ethiopia began the idea of controlling the nile since 1320 (700 years ago)

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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Dama » 09 Sep 2025, 22:00

Noble Imar
That is an impossible tale in the13th cdntury. Yekuno Amlak rebelled and usurped power of the Zagwe Dynasty that ruled Abyssinia for nearly 300 years with the help of Egypt. Egyptian Orthodox Christian Popes served Ethiopian monarcks as heads of the EOC until 1945. If your myth is correct, Abiy Ahmed threatening UAE the protector of the throne of the 7th King or Meles Zeradwa threatening Britain who helped him declare TPLF was in charge of Ethiopia in place of Mengistu would be correct.
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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Sep 2025, 22:05

Dama wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 22:00
Noble Imar
That is an impossible tale in thec13th cdntury. Yekuno Amlak rebelled andcusurped power of the Zagwe Dynasty that ruled Abyssinia for nearly 300 years with the help of Egypt. Egyptian Orthodox Christian Popes served Ethiopian monarcks as heads of the EOC until 1945. If your myth is correct, Abiy Ahmed threatening UAE the protector of the throne of the 7th King or Meles Zeradwa threatening Britain would be correct.
The Response was AI written so yes 13th Century (1201-1301) was when Yekuno Amlak ascended to the throne.

But in the 14th Century (1301-1401) Emperor Amdeseyoun threatened to divert the Nile in hopes of stopping the Egyptian Mamluks from persecuting its Christian Orthodox Coptic Inhabitants around 1320. The Abune of Alexandria would have notified King Amdetsion about the persecution

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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Dama » 10 Sep 2025, 00:03

Noble Amhara wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 22:05
Dama wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 22:00
Noble Imar
That is an impossible tale in thec13th cdntury. Yekuno Amlak rebelled andcusurped power of the Zagwe Dynasty that ruled Abyssinia for nearly 300 years with the help of Egypt. Egyptian Orthodox Christian Popes served Ethiopian monarcks as heads of the EOC until 1945. If your myth is correct, Abiy Ahmed threatening UAE the protector of the throne of the 7th King or Meles Zeradwa threatening Britain would be correct.
The Response was AI written so yes 13th Century (1201-1301) was when Yekuno Amlak ascended to the throne.

But in the 14th Century (1301-1401) Emperor Amdeseyoun threatened to divert the Nile in hopes of stopping the Egyptian Mamluks from persecuting its Christian Orthodox Coptic Inhabitants around 1320. The Abune of Alexandria would have notified King Amdetsion about the persecution
An illiterate and primitive Ande Tsion could not survive without Egypt, rebelling agaibst and threatening Egypt. If Egypt would stop only sending the heads of the EOC by whose blessings and prayers the kings ruled Abyssinia until , I guess, the 1960s, they would not exist on face of the earth. Did you know abyssinia of those days until early 1900s dressed like Sudanes and Egyptians. There existed little difference in life style and culture. Remember, even Menelick relied on Egypt's support against Yohanis IV.

Stop your impossible myth of grandeur and toughness. Abyssinia of the Solomonic Dyanasty was created by Egypt and maintained by it including its spiritual culture.
Whoever told you otherwise evidently fooled you.
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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Dama » 10 Sep 2025, 00:16

Zack wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 21:19
“We need to build a dam on the Nile. If we don’t, our grandchildren will.”
King Haille sellasie quote

This quote reflects Haile Selassie’s early recognition of the strategic importance of the Nile River and Ethiopia's right to use its waters. While he did not initiate GERD, he envisioned using the Blue Nile for Ethiopia’s development, and his sentiment is seen as prophetic by many Ethiopians today indeed.

Congrats Ethiopia


Dr Zackovich
Respect Ethiooian people's verdict.
Isn't Fano impressive making "Galla" Abiy Ahmed the expansionist stand naked weak?
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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Noble Amhara » 10 Sep 2025, 00:54

Arab worshipping dog!

Egypt cannot survive without Ethiopias water!

The nile is from the Ethiopian highlands !

The Egyptian Orthodox church was very weak and had no military power since 642 it has been dominated by foreign rule such as Arabians, Turkish and British. From 33 AD to 640 AD Egypt was a colony of Rome with no national army of its own. The Egyptian Church did not have a heroic culture of self-determination like in Abysinnia. Unlike the Ethiopian Orthodox church which had its own military and kingdom to move forward.

In egypt which is 10% Orthodox the christians are still suppressed and persecuted by Arabist Jihadists whom seek to destroy Christianity in Egypt!


Dama wrote:
10 Sep 2025, 00:03
Noble Amhara wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 22:05
Dama wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 22:00
Noble Imar
That is an impossible tale in thec13th cdntury. Yekuno Amlak rebelled andcusurped power of the Zagwe Dynasty that ruled Abyssinia for nearly 300 years with the help of Egypt. Egyptian Orthodox Christian Popes served Ethiopian monarcks as heads of the EOC until 1945. If your myth is correct, Abiy Ahmed threatening UAE the protector of the throne of the 7th King or Meles Zeradwa threatening Britain would be correct.
The Response was AI written so yes 13th Century (1201-1301) was when Yekuno Amlak ascended to the throne.

But in the 14th Century (1301-1401) Emperor Amdeseyoun threatened to divert the Nile in hopes of stopping the Egyptian Mamluks from persecuting its Christian Orthodox Coptic Inhabitants around 1320. The Abune of Alexandria would have notified King Amdetsion about the persecution
An illiterate and primitive Ande Tsion could not survive without Egypt, rebelling agaibst and threatening Egypt. If Egypt would stop only sending the heads of the EOC by whose blessings and prayers the kings ruled Abyssinia until , I guess, the 1960s, they would not exist on face of the earth. Did you know abyssinia of those days until early 1900s dressed like Sudanes and Egyptians. There existed little difference in life style and culture. Remember, even Menelick relied on Egypt's support against Yohanis IV.

Stop your impossible myth of grandeur and toughness. Abysdinia of the Solomonic Dyanasty was created by Egypt and maintained by it including its spiritual culture.
Whoever told you otherwise evidently fooled you.

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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Noble Amhara » 10 Sep 2025, 01:04

Ask AI about Egyptian history and it will tell you how many years EGYPT has been ruled by NON-egyptians. Since the year 0 Egypt has been ruled by outsiders for 95% of its existence (1922 years)

• Roman Rule: 0 AD – 641 AD = 641 years
• Arab Rule: 641 AD – 969 AD = 530 years
• Kurdish Ayyubid Rule: 1171 AD – 1250 AD = 79 years
• Turkic Mamluk Rule: 1250 AD – 1382 AD = 132 years
• Circassion Mamluk Rule: 1382 AD – 1517 AD = 135 years
• Turkish Ottoman Rule: 1517 AD – 1798 AD = 281 years
• French Occupation: 1798 AD – 1801 AD = 3 years
• Turkish Ottoman Rule): 1801 AD – 1805 AD = 4 years
• Albanian Rule: 1805 AD – 1882 AD = 77 years
• British Occupation: 1882 AD – 1922 AD = 40 years

How many tribes ruled Egypt?

1. Italians European)
2. Greeks European)
3. Arabs Middle Eastern)
4. Kurds Middle Eastern)
5. Turks Central Asian)
6) Circassians European)
7) French European)
8) Albanians European)
9) British European)

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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Zmeselo » 10 Sep 2025, 03:12

Wow, people can smile in their graves? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Dama » 10 Sep 2025, 04:16

Noble Imar, youre functionally illiterate of true history. You live in legends and myths of grandeur. There exists a an English word for the false reality of life that fools common sense to usher in illusion. It's called chimera, defined as: fantasy, illusion.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms ... ning#ebo=0

US colonizes Britain which indirectly colonizes Ethiopia thru the Commonwealth Countries of Nigeria and South Africa. You live this reality. Chimera imar, do you also deny this reality?
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Re: King haille sellasie can smile in his grave his grandson did it

Post by Zack » 10 Sep 2025, 04:18

Zmeselo wrote:
10 Sep 2025, 03:12
Wow, people can smile in their graves? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They actually don’t ,people say stuff if things go good for their offsprings or legacy people say they will smile in their Grave . Or if things go worse they cry. It’s more a metaphore . U don’t have to take it to its exact form

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