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[Naga Tuma]

Yes, Almighty God exists - He is the Alpha and Omega. He is the Light over darkness. He created man in His own Image, out of love. Gave man the authority to name each and every creature and to live on them.

There is only one single answer the curiosity about Heaven and Earth - And that answer is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - God Almighty, እግዚአብሔር - አልፋ እና ኦሜጋ

Abere:

ተታላዩ የተባለዉ ተንከባሎ ሲመጣ ሌላ ተታላይ ሆነህ ብቅ ኣልክ?

ኢትዮጵያ የፍጥረት በር ነች ከተባለች ኣልፋ እና ኦሜጋ የፍጥረት በር ኣምላክ ነዉ ያልተባለዉ ለምንድነዉ?

የፍጥረት በር ኣምላክ ኣልፋ ነዉ ከተባለ ስለ ኦሜጋ የምያዉቀዉ ኣፄ ሀይለሥላሴ እንዳሉት በስንቶች ላይ የምያድረዉ ኣይዴለም?

[Naga Tuma]

God aka dog doesn't exist. Your mother and father are the ones that created you and I as well. We humans always want to act as if we are different from other creatures, but we are not. If you can't touch or fell or touch or taste or smell anything, that means it doesn't exist it's in your imagination only. So God aka dog doesn't exist it's a human beings what ifs or hallucinations or a figment of imagination.

This only means that you have inferior imagination among Ethiopians and that the Almighty is having you complete your evolution for you to be able to understand it.

[Naga Tuma]

Yes indeed, God Almighty exists. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit.)

As for the answer to your questions about the unpleasant things, the Bible gives a perfect answer to that.

"Satan, is the god of this world."

But fortunately, his time is short. He'll soon be relegated to where he belongs. In the pits of hell.

Zmeselo:

It sounds to me that you and Abere have a similar understanding about the Almighty.

እስቲ ኣንተ እና አበረ በኣንድ ቤት ዉስጥ መኖር የማትችሉ ወንድማማቾች ናችሁ?

There was a group of Ethiopians who say they believe in Waqa. I think they have a more organic understanding about it.

In my view, their biggest problem is that they lack well rounded literate people to help them sift the grains from the chaff.

A big challenge for all, at least for me, is the name we humans attach to the Almighty.

እግዝኣብሔር፣ ዋቀ፣ መለኮታዊ፣ ህያዊ፣ ጎድ፣ ወዘተ።

[Naga Tuma]

ህያዊዉ በቃሉ በኩል ሊከሰት ይሆን?

ነሓሴ 16፣ 2017፣ ዐመተ ምህረት

[Naga Tuma]

ፌድ ኣፕ እና ታሪክ ተባብረዉ ሰዉ በቁሙ ሞተ ኣላሉም?

ፌድ ኣፕ በቅርቡ ጥቁር አንበሳ ብሎ መስመር ስያልፍ ወድያዉ ባገኘዉ መልስ ኣላፈረም?

እንደዚህ ዐይነት ተዓምራዊ ማሳፈርን ከመለኮታዊ አሰራር መኖር ዉጪ ማብራራት የሚችል ሰዉ በዚህ ምድር ላይ ማግኘት ይቻላል?

እንደዚህ ዐይነት ተዓምራዊ ክስተቶችን መርምሩ እና ለዘላለሙ ይግባችሁ ለማለት ስንት ግዜ ልመና ያስፈልጋል?

[Odie]

If so, is he/she is fair and impartial ? Poor animals getting butchered to feed the human kind ! Is that fair ? Does the idea of the existence of the almighty pass simple rudimentary logic ? Are you terrorized to love your creator in your own imagination ? We are here. How dis it happen ? Are we including the animals, created by almighty loving God ? Are we toys to God ? Why do people kill other people on behalf of God ? Believe it or not, I am a believer. But, I like to think that I am a rational thinker. I believe in creation for I live in it. But, I hate the contradictions the religious real spread around the world. I hate it when terrorism is justified through religion.

1. If so, is he/she is fair and impartial ? Yes; very just and impartial but we live in a fallen world, don't expect a perfect earth and its inhabitants quite soon.

2. Poor animals getting butchered to feed the human kind ! Is that fair ?Animals were not meant to be butchered in creation. Adam and eve might have been a vegitarian. Remember these animals you advocate for are and were eating humans in African savanna and elsewhere. Proper treatment of animals is a right thing to do but stretching it to the level of activism is another religion by itself.

3. Does the idea of the existence of the almighty pass simple rudimentary logic ?Yes there more than simple logics supporting existence of creator. There is no disproof for its existence at least. The anthropic principle of the universe and possible fine tuning of the universe, universal laws operating in the universe, the fingerprint in the cell, which is DNA, the code for living things all suggest not change but a designer
4. Are you terrorized to love your creator in your own imagination? No terrorizing to believe in God. He has given beings free will and he never said you must follow me. Following him is a choice by will not by force. Jesus' death and resurrection meant that a loving God actually exists not a terrorizing God.
5. We are here. How did it happen? Are we including the animals, created by almighty loving God ? Are we toys to God ? Again this is a fallen world. The orignal purpose of creation has never been to be like this. God wanted a fellowship with his creation. We and animals and everything was created in purpose until we disobeyed whether we like it or not. There is restoration planned once and for all by his son Jesus, the risen king. In the bible there is a reading that says, a lion will eat grass, a Babay will sit in a snake hole but will not hurt him. In his holy kingdome animals and creation will not hurt one another. That day is to come. Until then chaos will continue and in fact will get worse. We are not toys unless we want to undervalue ourselves. Man is a spiritual being but wants to leave in flesh and forget his spiritual connection with God because man wants to live his own immoral or freeways.

6. Why do people kill other people on behalf of God ? Believe it or not, I am a believer. Killing in the name of God has happened in the Old Testament era. It is absolutely not supported by scriptures in this era. The era of grace. Peter cut the ear of a roman officer but remember Jesus picked the detached ear, placed back and healed it. Then said, those who live by the sward should be destroyed by the sword. War is against the will of God. Killing is against Christian teaching. However, I said earlier, this chao of killing and butchering will continue till end time. The devil or Satan is in this world. He is a spirit, not flesh. He has demons that fell with him. These demonic beings can infest people mind, flesh and influence rational decision of people. People fall in trap to make wrong decisions by themselves as well as under influences of the evil. And the after math is what we see in the world. If the world was a perfect place, we would not see all the strife, killing, immorality and greed all over the world. Humans are not inherently bad but for differnt reasons they destroy each other and destroy everything else.

7. But, I like to think that I am a rational thinker. I believe in creation for I live in it. But, I hate the contradictions the religious real spread around the world. I hate it when terrorism is justified through religion.
Good to be a rational thinking which is good. Yes, many wars, abuses have been caried out in the world in the name of religions. Religion has been abused as a tool of colonization by the west. However, in Christianity, it was never the intention of Jesus for Christianity to be violent. The only thing he said was go to the end of the world and teach the good news to people about the kingdom of God and Jesus' work. But when rulers, thieves, dictators, ruthless rulers saw the value of christianity to trap people to their oppressive rule, they made Christianity a government religion. Then you know what followed. Christianity was never meant for expanding kingdoms, colonization etc. But as any good things in life, it was abused to fulfill human hubris. It is possible to live a peaceful, God loving fulfilling life without listening to the blabbering of many Chirstian tenets that preach their own wish on the public.

You can lecture your trained wishful thinking but you don’t seem to understand if the Almighty hits you on your head with a bolt. That makes you a false believer.

በኣፄ ሀይለ ሥላሴ ላይ ኣድሮ ኣልሰማም ሲል እሳያስ
ኩታ ኣጥልቆለት ስያለፋዉ ኖረ በስፍራዉ ሊመለስ

ነሓሴ 1፣ 2017፣ ዐመት ምህረት

ነምን ህን ሶበ፣ ኡርጂን ህን ሶቡ።

ሰዉ ይዋሻል፣ ኮከብ ኣይዋሽም ማለት ነዉ። ደበሳ ጉዮ፣ ቀኑ ያልተመዘገበ ዉይይት ዉስጥ የተናገረዉ ነዉ።

አዉሮፓ ዉስጥ መጀመርያ ላይ ፍሪማሶነሪዎች በሀይማኖት ምክንያት ሽሽት ነበር ድብቅ ያደረጋቸዉ። በዛ ምክንያት የተሰዉትን ጭምር ነዉ ሰዉ ይዋሻል፣ ኮከብ ኣይዋሽም ከሞት ተነስተዉ እንዲታወሱ ያደረጋቸዉ።

ኣዋቂ መስለህ አፍህን መክፈት ለእንደ ትረምፕ ትልቅ ጉልበት ሆኖ ነበር።

ቱማ:
የምትናገረው ግልፅ ወይም direct to the point ብታደርግ ግልፅ መልስ ታገኝ ነበር::የኔ አዋቂነትና አፍ መክፈት ቁብ ካልስጠህ ምናልባት የውስጥህ መንፈስ ካበሳጨው ጌታህ የካምብሪጅ ፊሎስፈር in a logical way ስለ almighty መኖር ሲፈተፍት ሌሎች atheist ነን የሚል ሲያዳምጡት ቪድዮ ስለለጠፍኩ እርሱን ለምን አትስማውም? ወይስ አርጉዩመንቱ ከበደህ?
እንግሊዞች እንዲህ የሚያስቀና የ debate culture አላቸው:: ሳይቧቀሱ ሳይስዳደቡ ሳይገደሉ ተደማምጠው በድምፅ ብልጫ አርጉመንቱን ላሽነፈ acknowledge ያደርጋሉ:: ይህ ስርአት ድሮ ኢ/ያ ውስጥ ትምህርት ሳይወድቅ በፊት እንደነበረ እገምታለሁ:: አብዮታውያውያን መጥተው ሁሉንም ወደ ሌብነትና ሽምደዳ ቀየሩትና ትምህርት ወደቀ:: Reasoning and critical thinking ወደቀ::
አንተ የዋቀ ስው ነህ:: ለኔ ዋቀ አምላክ አይደለም:: አጋንንት እንጂ:: አይደለም ብለህ አትከራከር:: ካልሆነ ለራሱ ይከራከር:: If you want to worship waqa for yourself andOromos (not all), good luck. We can have different religions but one country if you believe in civility.
በተረፈ religion has a huge component of personal experience. I can only tell you my experience as much as you listen or trust me. Otherwise it is a waste of time. There are a lot of bright people that believe in God out there. If you want to examine facts there is a lot of information in YouTube and internate. Stretching our conversation beyond this is futile!

[Naga Tuma]

If so, is he/she is fair and impartial ? Poor animals getting butchered to feed the human kind ! Is that fair ? Does the idea of the existence of the almighty pass simple rudimentary logic ? Are you terrorized to love your creator in your own imagination ? We are here. How dis it happen ? Are we including the animals, created by almighty loving God ? Are we toys to God ? Why do people kill other people on behalf of God ? Believe it or not, I am a believer. But, I like to think that I am a rational thinker. I believe in creation for I live in it. But, I hate the contradictions the religious real spread around the world. I hate it when terrorism is justified through religion.

1. If so, is he/she is fair and impartial ? Yes; very just and impartial but we live in a fallen world, don't expect a perfect earth and its inhabitants quite soon.

2. Poor animals getting butchered to feed the human kind ! Is that fair ?Animals were not meant to be butchered in creation. Adam and eve might have been a vegitarian. Remember these animals you advocate for are and were eating humans in African savanna and elsewhere. Proper treatment of animals is a right thing to do but stretching it to the level of activism is another religion by itself.

3. Does the idea of the existence of the almighty pass simple rudimentary logic ?Yes there more than simple logics supporting existence of creator. There is no disproof for its existence at least. The anthropic principle of the universe and possible fine tuning of the universe, universal laws operating in the universe, the fingerprint in the cell, which is DNA, the code for living things all suggest not change but a designer
4. Are you terrorized to love your creator in your own imagination? No terrorizing to believe in God. He has given beings free will and he never said you must follow me. Following him is a choice by will not by force. Jesus' death and resurrection meant that a loving God actually exists not a terrorizing God.
5. We are here. How did it happen? Are we including the animals, created by almighty loving God ? Are we toys to God ? Again this is a fallen world. The orignal purpose of creation has never been to be like this. God wanted a fellowship with his creation. We and animals and everything was created in purpose until we disobeyed whether we like it or not. There is restoration planned once and for all by his son Jesus, the risen king. In the bible there is a reading that says, a lion will eat grass, a Babay will sit in a snake hole but will not hurt him. In his holy kingdome animals and creation will not hurt one another. That day is to come. Until then chaos will continue and in fact will get worse. We are not toys unless we want to undervalue ourselves. Man is a spiritual being but wants to leave in flesh and forget his spiritual connection with God because man wants to live his own immoral or freeways.

6. Why do people kill other people on behalf of God ? Believe it or not, I am a believer. Killing in the name of God has happened in the Old Testament era. It is absolutely not supported by scriptures in this era. The era of grace. Peter cut the ear of a roman officer but remember Jesus picked the detached ear, placed back and healed it. Then said, those who live by the sward should be destroyed by the sword. War is against the will of God. Killing is against Christian teaching. However, I said earlier, this chao of killing and butchering will continue till end time. The devil or Satan is in this world. He is a spirit, not flesh. He has demons that fell with him. These demonic beings can infest people mind, flesh and influence rational decision of people. People fall in trap to make wrong decisions by themselves as well as under influences of the evil. And the after math is what we see in the world. If the world was a perfect place, we would not see all the strife, killing, immorality and greed all over the world. Humans are not inherently bad but for differnt reasons they destroy each other and destroy everything else.

7. But, I like to think that I am a rational thinker. I believe in creation for I live in it. But, I hate the contradictions the religious real spread around the world. I hate it when terrorism is justified through religion.
Good to be a rational thinking which is good. Yes, many wars, abuses have been caried out in the world in the name of religions. Religion has been abused as a tool of colonization by the west. However, in Christianity, it was never the intention of Jesus for Christianity to be violent. The only thing he said was go to the end of the world and teach the good news to people about the kingdom of God and Jesus' work. But when rulers, thieves, dictators, ruthless rulers saw the value of christianity to trap people to their oppressive rule, they made Christianity a government religion. Then you know what followed. Christianity was never meant for expanding kingdoms, colonization etc. But as any good things in life, it was abused to fulfill human hubris. It is possible to live a peaceful, God loving fulfilling life without listening to the blabbering of many Chirstian tenets that preach their own wish on the public.

You can lecture your trained wishful thinking but you don’t seem to understand if the Almighty hits you on your head with a bolt. That makes you a false believer. Your inability to read the writing on the wall is mind boggling.

በኣፄ ሀይለ ሥላሴ ላይ ኣድሮ ኣልሰማም ሲል እሳያስ
ኩታ ኣጥልቆለት ስያለፋዉ ኖረ በስፍራዉ ሊመለስ

ነሓሴ 1፣ 2017፣ ዐመት ምህረት

ነምን ህን ሶበ፣ ኡርጂን ህን ሶቡ።

ሰዉ ይዋሻል፣ ኮከብ ኣይዋሽም ማለት ነዉ። ደበሳ ጉዮ፣ ቀኑ ያልተመዘገበ ዉይይት ዉስጥ የተናገረዉ ነዉ።

አዉሮፓ ዉስጥ መጀመርያ ላይ ፍሪማሶነሪዎች በሀይማኖት ምክንያት ሽሽት ነበር ድብቅ ያደረጋቸዉ። በዛ ምክንያት የተሰዉትን ጭምር ነዉ ሰዉ ይዋሻል፣ ኮከብ ኣይዋሽም ከሞት ተነስተዉ እንዲታወሱ ያደረጋቸዉ።

ኣዋቂ መስለህ አፍህን መክፈት ለእንደ ትረምፕ ትልቅ ጉልበት ሆኖ ነበር።

ቱማ:
የምትናገረው ግልፅ ወይም direct to the point ብታደርግ ግልፅ መልስ ታገኝ ነበር::የኔ አዋቂነትና አፍ መክፈት ቁብ ካልስጠህ ምናልባት የውስጥህ መንፈስ ካበሳጨው ጌታህ የካምብሪጅ ፊሎስፈር in a logical way ስለ almighty መኖር ሲፈተፍት ሌሎች atheist ነን የሚል ሲያዳምጡት ቪድዮ ስለለጠፍኩ እርሱን ለምን አትስማውም? ወይስ አርጉዩመንቱ ከበደህ?
እንግሊዞች እንዲህ የሚያስቀና የ debate culture አላቸው:: ሳይቧቀሱ ሳይስዳደቡ ሳይገደሉ ተደማምጠው በድምፅ ብልጫ አርጉመንቱን ላሽነፈ acknowledge ያደርጋሉ:: ይህ ስርአት ድሮ ኢ/ያ ውስጥ ትምህርት ሳይወድቅ በፊት እንደነበረ እገምታለሁ:: አብዮታውያውያን መጥተው ሁሉንም ወደ ሌብነትና ሽምደዳ ቀየሩትና ትምህርት ወደቀ:: Reasoning and critical thinking ወደቀ::
አንተ የዋቀ ስው ነህ:: ለኔ ዋቀ አምላክ አይደለም:: አጋንንት እንጂ:: አይደለም ብለህ አትከራከር:: ካልሆነ ለራሱ ይከራከር:: If you want to worship waqa for yourself andOromos (not all), good luck. We can have different religions but one country if you believe in civility.
በተረፈ religion has a huge component of personal experience. I can only tell you my experience as much as you listen or trust me. Otherwise it is a waste of time. There are a lot of bright people that believe in God out there. If you want to examine facts there is a lot of information in YouTube and internate. Stretching our conversation beyond this is futile!

Your problem is your inability to read and understand the writing on the wall, which is mind boggling.

I hoped that you could be initiated into understanding one and only one thing instead of acting literate or bright and lecture.

I have literally babysat your stupidity for more than 18 years now, which is around when I joined this forum.

If you are not another complete idiot, answer the following two simple questions.

ለምንድነዉ እስከዚህ ዘመን ድረስ ፈረኦን ጥጋበኛ እንጂ ግምበኛ ያልተባለዉ?

የኣፍርካ ፈረኦን አክናተን በኋላ ስደተኛ የሆነዉ ሙጬ ወይም ሙጫ በዚህ ምድር ላይ የመጀመርያዉ ኣንድ እግዝኣብሔር ባይ ኣማኝ መሆኑ እየታወቀ ለምንድነዉ ጁድዮ ክርስትያን እስላም እስታብሊሽመንት የተባለዉ ኢጅይፕቶ ጁድዮ ክርስትያን እስላም እስታብሊሽመንት ተብሎ ያልታረመዉ?

እነዚህን ሁለት ቀላል ጥያቄዎችን ሳትመልስ አዋቂ ነኝ ብለህ አፍህን ኣትክፈት።

[Zmeselo]

Yes indeed, God Almighty exists. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit.)

As for the answer to your questions about the unpleasant things, the Bible gives a perfect answer to that.

"Satan, is the god of this world."

But fortunately, his time is short. He'll soon be relegated to where he belongs. In the pits of hell.

Zmeselo:

It sounds to me that you and Abere have a similar understanding about the Almighty.

እስቲ ኣንተ እና አበረ በኣንድ ቤት ዉስጥ መኖር የማትችሉ ወንድማማቾች ናችሁ?

There was a group of Ethiopians who say they believe in Waqa. I think they have a more organic understanding about it.

In my view, their biggest problem is that they lack well rounded literate people to help them sift the grains from the chaff.

A big challenge for all, at least for me, is the name we humans attach to the Almighty.

እግዝኣብሔር፣ ዋቀ፣ መለኮታዊ፣ ህያዊ፣ ጎድ፣ ወዘተ።

There're 2 billion Christians in the world, who believe in the same thing.

[Abere]

Naga Tuma,

ይህ ጉዳይ ስለ መለኮት ነው እንጅ ስለተራው ምድራዊ ነገር አይደለም። መለኮት የነበረ፤ ያለ፤ ሁሉን አሳልፎ የሚኖር ህያው ነው። በዜግነት፤ በቀለም፤ ወይም በወንዝ እና ድንበር የሚወሰን አይደለም። እግዚአብሄር ሰለሚወድ የፈጠረውን ሁሉ ፈጠረ ቀዩን፤ጥቁሩን፤ ነጩን ቢጫውን፤ ወዘተ የሚያተየውን፤የማይታየውን፤ረቂቁን ወዘተ።

የሰው ልጅ በንዋይ፤ ለስልጣን ፤ ለወዘተ ከንቱ ምድራዊ ምኞት እና ፍትወት ሲፈልግ በዘር ወይም በቀለም ወይም በአሀጉር /ክልል የግል ወይም የአንድ ወገንን ብቻ አድርጎ የሚተርክ ብቻ ሳይሆን መደብል የጻፈ አለ - እግዚአብሄር ግን በጊዜም በቦታም የሚወሰን አይደለም።

በእርግጥ ነው አፍሪካ በተለይም ኢትዮጵያ (ጥንታዊ የሆነችውን - የአፍሪካ መጠሪያ የነበረችውን) ስንመለከት የሃይማኖት መሰረት እንደ ነበረች ግልጽ ነው። ሙሴ ማን ነው፤ የሙሴ ምስት ማን ናት፤ ከዚያም አልፎ ካህኑ መልከ ጸደቅ (አብርሃምን የባረከው -አብርሃም ስጦታ ያቀረበለት፤ እየሩሳሌምን እየሩሳሌም ብሎ የሰየማት)፤ ከሙሴም ቀደም ብሎ ታላቁ ነብይ ሄኖክ በሰው አንጻር ከየትኛው አገር ነበሩ የሚለው ጥያቄ ሲነሳ የተጨቆኑ ታሪኮች ይናገራሉ። ከዚህ ላይ ነው የተጨቆኑ ታሪኮች ግዝፈት ያለው እውነት የሚያሳዩት። ኢትዮጵያ የኢትዮጵስ አገር ስሟ ብቅ ይላል።

አንድ ወቅት ነው ዶክመንታሪ እከታተል ነበር - ከበርካታ አውሮፓያዊያን ጋር አንድት ጥቁር አፍሪካዊት ጥንታዊ የሆኑ የካቶሊክ ታሪካዊ ገዳማትን በተለያዩ አገራት በስፔን፤ጣልያን፤ ፈረንሳይ፤ እንግሊዝ፤ ፓላንድ ወዘተ እየተዘዋወረች በሆነው ነገር ሁሉ እጅግ ትደነቃለች፤ ተራራው ገደል፤ ሜዳ የከበሩ ዛፎች የቅዱሳን ስዕል በማየት ተመሰጠች። አድካሚ ግን መንፈሳዊ ጉዞ። ይች አፍሪካዊት በድንገት ቋጥኝ ላይ አረፍ ብላ አንድ ነገር ተናገረች - ይህን ሁሉ ቤተክርስቲያን ተዘዋውሬ አየሁ አንድም ስዕል ይሁን ቅርስ እኔን የሚመስል የለም እኔ ለምንብየ ነው እንድህ የምንከራተተው - እኔ በሌለሁብት አለች። ያለችው አስገረመኝ - ተሰማችኝ። እውነቱ ግን እግዜር ቀለም አይመርጥም - ሁሉም ቀለም ስለ ወደደ ነው የፈጠረው። ሰዎች ግን በጊዜ እና በቀለም ወስነው ኢ-መለኮታዊ የፓለቲካ መሳሪያ መድሎ መፈጸምያ አድርገውታል።

ኢትዮጵያ እጆቿን ወደ እግዚአብሄር ትዘረጋለች ይላል ቅዱስ መጽሐፍ። በእርግጥም ይች አሁን ተሸራርፋ የቀረችው ኢትዮጵያ ዳግማዊት እየሩሳሌም ናት የእግዚአብሄርን ድምጽ የሰማው ትዕዛዝ የተቀበለው የነብዩ ሙሴ፤ ሰማየ ሰማያትን (አርያም) የተመላለሰው የብዩ ሄኖክ፤ የካህኑ አሮን፤ የሳሌም ንጉስ በቅርብ ጊዜም የእነ ቅዱስ ያሬድ፤ ቅዱስ ላሊበላ፤ ቅዱስ ተክለሃይማኖት ወዘተ

Abere:

ተታላዩ የተባለዉ ተንከባሎ ሲመጣ ሌላ ተታላይ ሆነህ ብቅ ኣልክ?

ኢትዮጵያ የፍጥረት በር ነች ከተባለች ኣልፋ እና ኦሜጋ የፍጥረት በር ኣምላክ ነዉ ያልተባለዉ ለምንድነዉ?

የፍጥረት በር ኣምላክ ኣልፋ ነዉ ከተባለ ስለ ኦሜጋ የምያዉቀዉ ኣፄ ሀይለሥላሴ እንዳሉት በስንቶች ላይ የምያድረዉ ኣይዴለም?

[Naga Tuma]

Yes indeed, God Almighty exists. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit.)

As for the answer to your questions about the unpleasant things, the Bible gives a perfect answer to that.

"Satan, is the god of this world."

But fortunately, his time is short. He'll soon be relegated to where he belongs. In the pits of hell.

Zmeselo:

It sounds to me that you and Abere have a similar understanding about the Almighty.

እስቲ ኣንተ እና አበረ በኣንድ ቤት ዉስጥ መኖር የማትችሉ ወንድማማቾች ናችሁ?

There was a group of Ethiopians who say they believe in Waqa. I think they have a more organic understanding about it.

In my view, their biggest problem is that they lack well rounded literate people to help them sift the grains from the chaff.

A big challenge for all, at least for me, is the name we humans attach to the Almighty.

እግዝኣብሔር፣ ዋቀ፣ መለኮታዊ፣ ህያዊ፣ ጎድ፣ ወዘተ።

There're 2 billion Christians in the world, who believe in the same thing.

Does that mean there are 5 billion G@llas in the world, according to your dimwit friend that you think lives rent free in Horus’ brain?

More seriously, you are missing the memo our wannabe colonizers in the past wrote you or you never got it.

ጉደኛዉ ዳ ቭንቺ ግብዳን ኣሽክሞ ሳትፀንስ በፊትም ሆነ ከወለደች በኋላ ድንግል ነበረች ብሎ ያምን የነበረ ህዝብ መሃል ዱብ ያደረገዉን ኣላሳዩህም ወይስ ኣይተህ ኣልገባህም?

እናንተ ሰፈር ዳ ቭንቺ ኮድ የሚፈታዉ እንዴት ነዉ?

የሞና ሊዛ እና የግብጽን ፒራምድ ለምሳሌዎች ያስቀመጠዉ የፓርሱ ምዩዝየም ድረስ መሄድ ያስፈልጋል?

የአዉሮፓ የመጀመርያዉ ሬይነሳንስ ሰዎች ጎድ ኦፍ አብረሃም ስንል የኖርነዉ የጨለማ ዘመናችን ነበረ። ጎደስ አቴና ኣለን ብለን ዳግም ተወልደን ብርሃን ኣየን ካሉ ወደ አምስት መቶ ዐመታት ተቆጠሩ እኮ።

የኢትዮጵያ የሁለተኛዉ ሬይነሳምስ ቀዳሚ ሰዉ መባል የሚችል የተናገረዉን ካልሳትኩኝ ጎድ ኦፍ አብረሃም ሳይሆን ፈረኦዉ ብለን ዳግም ተወልደን ወይም ከማዝገም ተላቀን ብርሃን ይሁን ካለ ከግማሽ ምዕተ ዐመት በላይ ሆነ እኮ።

You also should not forget who keeps the so called standard version of the Good Book and the main seat of the first Pope of Christianity.

Do you in your wildest imagination think both seats are unaware of what the first Renaissance was about?

[Odie]

Yes indeed, God Almighty exists. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit.)

As for the answer to your questions about the unpleasant things, the Bible gives a perfect answer to that.

"Satan, is the god of this world."

But fortunately, his time is short. He'll soon be relegated to where he belongs. In the pits of hell.

Zmeselo:

It sounds to me that you and Abere have a similar understanding about the Almighty.

እስቲ ኣንተ እና አበረ በኣንድ ቤት ዉስጥ መኖር የማትችሉ ወንድማማቾች ናችሁ?

There was a group of Ethiopians who say they believe in Waqa. I think they have a more organic understanding about it.

In my view, their biggest problem is that they lack well rounded literate people to help them sift the grains from the chaff.

A big challenge for all, at least for me, is the name we humans attach to the Almighty.

እግዝኣብሔር፣ ዋቀ፣ መለኮታዊ፣ ህያዊ፣ ጎድ፣ ወዘተ።

There're 2 billion Christians in the world, who believe in the same thing.

Does that mean there are 5 billion G@llas in the world, according to your dimwit friend that you think lives rent free in Horus’ brain?

More seriously, you are missing the memo our wannabe colonizers in the past wrote you or you never got it.

ጉደኛዉ ዳ ቭንቺ ግብዳን ኣሽክሞ ሳትፀንስ በፊትም ሆነ ከወለደች በኋላ ድንግል ነበረች ብሎ ያምን የነበረ ህዝብ መሃል ዱብ ያደረገዉን ኣላሳዩህም ወይስ ኣይተህ ኣልገባህም?

እናንተ ሰፈር ዳ ቭንቺ ኮድ የሚፈታዉ እንዴት ነዉ?

የሞና ሊዛ እና የግብጽን ፒራምድ ለምሳሌዎች ያስቀመጠዉ የፓርሱ ምዩዝየም ድረስ መሄድ ያስፈልጋል?

የአዉሮፓ የመጀመርያዉ ሬይነሳንስ ሰዎች ጎድ ኦፍ አብረሃም ስንል የኖርነዉ የጨለማ ዘመናችን ነበረ። ጎደስ አቴና ኣለን ብለን ዳግም ተወልደን ብርሃን ኣየን ካሉ ወደ አምስት መቶ ዐመታት ተቆጠሩ እኮ።

የኢትዮጵያ የሁለተኛዉ ሬይነሳምስ ቀዳሚ ሰዉ መባል የሚችል የተናገረዉን ካልሳትኩኝ ጎድ ኦፍ አብረሃም ሳይሆን ፈረኦዉ ብለን ዳግም ተወልደን ወይም ከማዝገም ተላቀን ብርሃን ይሁን ካለ ከግማሽ ምዕተ ዐመት በላይ ሆነ እኮ።

You also should not forget who keeps the so called standard version of the Good Book and the main seat of the first Pope of Christianity.

Do you in your wildest imagination think both seats are unaware of what the first Renaissance was about?

Seems Mr Tuma has antisemitic feelings manifesting as hate to the oldest holy book that endured millennia of want for elimination by burning and dumping but survived to serve humanity. You could still stick to your waqa and tree painting buuter without manifest hate to the bible

[Naga Tuma]

Abere:

እኔም ያነሳሁኝ ስለ መለኮት ወይም የመለኮታዊ አሰራር ጥልቅነት ነዉ።

ኣሁን ያለዉ ጥያቄ ቀድሞ የጀመረዉ የት ነበረ ነዉ።

ስለ መለኮታዊ አሰራር ጥልቅነት ከመለኮታዊ አሰራር ዉጪ ማብራራት ይቻላል ወይ ብዬ ስለ ጠየኩኝ ጥያቄ ሌላ መልስ ኣለህ?

Naga Tuma,

ይህ ጉዳይ ስለ መለኮት ነው እንጅ ስለተራው ምድራዊ ነገር አይደለም። መለኮት የነበረ፤ ያለ፤ ሁሉን አሳልፎ የሚኖር ህያው ነው። በዜግነት፤ በቀለም፤ ወይም በወንዝ እና ድንበር የሚወሰን አይደለም። እግዚአብሄር ሰለሚወድ የፈጠረውን ሁሉ ፈጠረ ቀዩን፤ጥቁሩን፤ ነጩን ቢጫውን፤ ወዘተ የሚያተየውን፤የማይታየውን፤ረቂቁን ወዘተ።

የሰው ልጅ በንዋይ፤ ለስልጣን ፤ ለወዘተ ከንቱ ምድራዊ ምኞት እና ፍትወት ሲፈልግ በዘር ወይም በቀለም ወይም በአሀጉር /ክልል የግል ወይም የአንድ ወገንን ብቻ አድርጎ የሚተርክ ብቻ ሳይሆን መደብል የጻፈ አለ - እግዚአብሄር ግን በጊዜም በቦታም የሚወሰን አይደለም።

በእርግጥ ነው አፍሪካ በተለይም ኢትዮጵያ (ጥንታዊ የሆነችውን - የአፍሪካ መጠሪያ የነበረችውን) ስንመለከት የሃይማኖት መሰረት እንደ ነበረች ግልጽ ነው። ሙሴ ማን ነው፤ የሙሴ ምስት ማን ናት፤ ከዚያም አልፎ ካህኑ መልከ ጸደቅ (አብርሃምን የባረከው -አብርሃም ስጦታ ያቀረበለት፤ እየሩሳሌምን እየሩሳሌም ብሎ የሰየማት)፤ ከሙሴም ቀደም ብሎ ታላቁ ነብይ ሄኖክ በሰው አንጻር ከየትኛው አገር ነበሩ የሚለው ጥያቄ ሲነሳ የተጨቆኑ ታሪኮች ይናገራሉ። ከዚህ ላይ ነው የተጨቆኑ ታሪኮች ግዝፈት ያለው እውነት የሚያሳዩት። ኢትዮጵያ የኢትዮጵስ አገር ስሟ ብቅ ይላል።

አንድ ወቅት ነው ዶክመንታሪ እከታተል ነበር - ከበርካታ አውሮፓያዊያን ጋር አንድት ጥቁር አፍሪካዊት ጥንታዊ የሆኑ የካቶሊክ ታሪካዊ ገዳማትን በተለያዩ አገራት በስፔን፤ጣልያን፤ ፈረንሳይ፤ እንግሊዝ፤ ፓላንድ ወዘተ እየተዘዋወረች በሆነው ነገር ሁሉ እጅግ ትደነቃለች፤ ተራራው ገደል፤ ሜዳ የከበሩ ዛፎች የቅዱሳን ስዕል በማየት ተመሰጠች። አድካሚ ግን መንፈሳዊ ጉዞ። ይች አፍሪካዊት በድንገት ቋጥኝ ላይ አረፍ ብላ አንድ ነገር ተናገረች - ይህን ሁሉ ቤተክርስቲያን ተዘዋውሬ አየሁ አንድም ስዕል ይሁን ቅርስ እኔን የሚመስል የለም እኔ ለምንብየ ነው እንድህ የምንከራተተው - እኔ በሌለሁብት አለች። ያለችው አስገረመኝ - ተሰማችኝ። እውነቱ ግን እግዜር ቀለም አይመርጥም - ሁሉም ቀለም ስለ ወደደ ነው የፈጠረው። ሰዎች ግን በጊዜ እና በቀለም ወስነው ኢ-መለኮታዊ የፓለቲካ መሳሪያ መድሎ መፈጸምያ አድርገውታል።

ኢትዮጵያ እጆቿን ወደ እግዚአብሄር ትዘረጋለች ይላል ቅዱስ መጽሐፍ። በእርግጥም ይች አሁን ተሸራርፋ የቀረችው ኢትዮጵያ ዳግማዊት እየሩሳሌም ናት የእግዚአብሄርን ድምጽ የሰማው ትዕዛዝ የተቀበለው የነብዩ ሙሴ፤ ሰማየ ሰማያትን (አርያም) የተመላለሰው የብዩ ሄኖክ፤ የካህኑ አሮን፤ የሳሌም ንጉስ በቅርብ ጊዜም የእነ ቅዱስ ያሬድ፤ ቅዱስ ላሊበላ፤ ቅዱስ ተክለሃይማኖት ወዘተ

Abere:

ተታላዩ የተባለዉ ተንከባሎ ሲመጣ ሌላ ተታላይ ሆነህ ብቅ ኣልክ?

ኢትዮጵያ የፍጥረት በር ነች ከተባለች ኣልፋ እና ኦሜጋ የፍጥረት በር ኣምላክ ነዉ ያልተባለዉ ለምንድነዉ?

የፍጥረት በር ኣምላክ ኣልፋ ነዉ ከተባለ ስለ ኦሜጋ የምያዉቀዉ ኣፄ ሀይለሥላሴ እንዳሉት በስንቶች ላይ የምያድረዉ ኣይዴለም?

[Naga Tuma]

Yes indeed, God Almighty exists. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit.)

As for the answer to your questions about the unpleasant things, the Bible gives a perfect answer to that.

"Satan, is the god of this world."

But fortunately, his time is short. He'll soon be relegated to where he belongs. In the pits of hell.

Zmeselo:

It sounds to me that you and Abere have a similar understanding about the Almighty.

እስቲ ኣንተ እና አበረ በኣንድ ቤት ዉስጥ መኖር የማትችሉ ወንድማማቾች ናችሁ?

There was a group of Ethiopians who say they believe in Waqa. I think they have a more organic understanding about it.

In my view, their biggest problem is that they lack well rounded literate people to help them sift the grains from the chaff.

A big challenge for all, at least for me, is the name we humans attach to the Almighty.

እግዝኣብሔር፣ ዋቀ፣ መለኮታዊ፣ ህያዊ፣ ጎድ፣ ወዘተ።

There're 2 billion Christians in the world, who believe in the same thing.

Does that mean there are 5 billion G@llas in the world, according to your dimwit friend that you think lives rent free in Horus’ brain?

More seriously, you are missing the memo our wannabe colonizers in the past wrote you or you never got it.

ጉደኛዉ ዳ ቭንቺ ግብዳን ኣሽክሞ ሳትፀንስ በፊትም ሆነ ከወለደች በኋላ ድንግል ነበረች ብሎ ያምን የነበረ ህዝብ መሃል ዱብ ያደረገዉን ኣላሳዩህም ወይስ ኣይተህ ኣልገባህም?

እናንተ ሰፈር ዳ ቭንቺ ኮድ የሚፈታዉ እንዴት ነዉ?

የሞና ሊዛ እና የግብጽን ፒራምድ ለምሳሌዎች ያስቀመጠዉ የፓርሱ ምዩዝየም ድረስ መሄድ ያስፈልጋል?

የአዉሮፓ የመጀመርያዉ ሬይነሳንስ ሰዎች ጎድ ኦፍ አብረሃም ስንል የኖርነዉ የጨለማ ዘመናችን ነበረ። ጎደስ አቴና ኣለን ብለን ዳግም ተወልደን ብርሃን ኣየን ካሉ ወደ አምስት መቶ ዐመታት ተቆጠሩ እኮ።

የኢትዮጵያ የሁለተኛዉ ሬይነሳምስ ቀዳሚ ሰዉ መባል የሚችል የተናገረዉን ካልሳትኩኝ ጎድ ኦፍ አብረሃም ሳይሆን ፈረኦዉ ብለን ዳግም ተወልደን ወይም ከማዝገም ተላቀን ብርሃን ይሁን ካለ ከግማሽ ምዕተ ዐመት በላይ ሆነ እኮ።

You also should not forget who keeps the so called standard version of the Good Book and the main seat of the first Pope of Christianity.

Do you in your wildest imagination think both seats are unaware of what the first Renaissance was about?

Seems Mr Tuma has antisemitic feelings manifesting as hate to the oldest holy book that endured millennia of want for elimination by burning and dumping but survived to serve humanity. You could still stick to your waqa and tree painting buuter without manifest hate to the bible

Says a challenged student called Tumama in my Renaissance 101 class. He fails to answer simple questions time and again.

He has now become the first Ethiopian to label me as the first antisemitic Ethiopian. I haven’t heard about any other one before now.

He evidently doesn’t know that the oldest book of faith was the Ethiopian one, both written and yet unwritten, followed by the Torah, then the Bible, which is followed by the Quran.

According to him, the Semitic Sigmund Freud is antisemitic, Senator Bernie Sanders is antisemitic, all the Jews who follow the Torah are antisemitic. The Muslim world is antisemitic. The world of the Buddhas is antisemitic. He doesn’t know if the Semitic and Cushitic division ever existed before the Exodus.

I am not antisemitic. I am pro humanity, which includes the Semitic people.

I certainly do not wish people sandwiched between the first Renaissance and the second Renaissance.

Who was it that said ነመ ጄዹ? I can foresee people there chant አያን ቦረና ቡኤ፣ ዹጉም ባነ።

Can you imagine how long your marriage to Dama is going to last?

ነግሬህ ነበረ መረጃ መድረክ ላይ ብቅ ብዬ። ኣንተ እኮ ሀሰተኛ ኣማኝ ነህ ብዬ። ዕዉቀት እየቀጠቀጠህ በቃኝ የማታዉቅ ወደል ነገር ነህ ብዬ። የኢትዮጵያ አነሳስ ከኮሪደር ልማት ሪፖርቶችህ ሺህ ግዜ በላይ ይበልጣል ብዬ። ሂድ እና እኩያህን ፈልግ ብዬ። ከኣዕምሮ ባርነት በላይ ያለ በሽታ ኣለ ወይ ብዬ ጠይቄህ።

People were misusing milk and but!er when it was in abundance. If you were walking among them and felt thirsty and asked for water, they would give you milk instead of water.

These days, some have become business minded. Your old friend Union would sell even you, ትርፍ ካመጣህለት, and lecture them how to use them properly if he isn’t lazy who hides behind the Bible.

አበረ የትንቢቱን ፍጻሜ ክስተቶች ኣንድ በኣንድ እየቆጠረ፣ ነብዮቹን ከጫፍ እስከ ጫፍ እየቆጠረ፣ ኪዳነ ዘላለሙን ወይም ቴስታመንት ፎር ኤተርኒቲን ሳይዉል ሳያድር እያዘጋጀ ይሆን? ትንፋሽዋ ብለህ ተነስተህ አረት ኪሎ ስትደርስ ደዉልልኝ ነበር ያልከዉ?

[Naga Tuma]

ግምት፥ ህያዊዉ ክርስቶስ ላይ ብያድር ሰዎች ክርስቶስ ተነስቶ ወደ ህዋ ኣረገ ኣሉ።