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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Affable » 02 Jun 2025, 21:17

I hope she does. What we have witnessed for the last few years indicates that Ethiopia is on the right path.
Yes, political instability is a challenge, but there is a sign that it is not spreading rather it is diminishing.
The other day the lady from Ethiopian defense has said our army is not concerned about homegrown trouble makers here and there.
Our army is not responding to them. The militia is capable of taking care of them she stressed. I believed her.
Believing she is correct, yes, Ethiopia’s future is bright.


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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Horus » 03 Jun 2025, 01:03

Affable wrote:
02 Jun 2025, 21:17
I hope she does. What we have witnessed for the last few years indicates that Ethiopia is on the right path.
Yes, political instability is a challenge, but there is a sign that it is not spreading rather it is diminishing.
The other day the lady from Ethiopian defense has said our army is not concerned about homegrown trouble makers here and there.
Our army is not responding to them. The militia is capable of taking care of them she stressed. I believed her.
Believing she is correct, yes, Ethiopia’s future is bright.
የኢትዮጵያ ሕዝብ እንደ ጦርነትና ነጻ አውጪዎች የሰለቸው ነገር የለም ። አይደለም የኢትዮጵያ የኤርትራ ሕዝብ እንኳ ጦርነት ስልችት ብሎታል ። አሁን በትግሬ ያለው የሕዝብ ስሜት ምስክር ነው ። ጥቂት ብረት የተሸከሙ ሌላ ሕይወት የሌላቸው ካልሆኑ በስተቀር ተራው ሕዝብ ከትግሬ አንስቶ ፣ አማራ፣ ኦሮሞ ሆነ ሌላ አይደለም ስለጦርነት ስለ ነጻ አውጭዎች ስራዬ ብሎ የሚከታተል እንኳን የለም ። እንደ እውነት ከሆነ ጦረኞችና ነጻ አውጪዎች ከሕዝቡ ህሊና እየጠፉ ነው፤ ተረስተዋል። አሁን ላይ ለሆነ የጎሳ ጥያቄ ለመሞት የሚፈልግ ወጣት በኢትዮጵያ የለም። ይህ እራሳቸው እነኦላና ፋኖም ያውቁታል! የጎሬላ ጦርነት በኢትዮጵያ ግዜ ያለፈበት ፈሊጥ ነው ። አንዱ ወጣት አርቲፊሻል ኢንተለጀስ ውስጥ ሲመጥቅ ሌላው መሃይም ሆኖ ብረት ታቅፎ ጫካ ውስጥ 5 አንድ 10 ዓመት መጃጀት ለዚህ ዘመን እብደት ነው። ወጣቱና ቤተሰቡ ይህን ፋይዳቢስ የሕይወት መባከን እየገባቸው ይመጣል ።

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by sesame » 03 Jun 2025, 01:30

HorusAss,

I take no pleasure to say that Ethiopia is doomed. The news today is that the Emir of the Afars publicly rejected Abiy's intention to use Afar land and people for his war mongering. Do you understand what that says about your crumbling nation? Alburhan allowed the Ethiopian delegation to travel to Port Sudan but refused to see them. A deliberate diplomatic slap that should tell you how low Ethiopia has fallen. Also, last week Abiy had to cut short his trip to Europe because they consider him to be trash. Last week, a Tigrayan general said they need no permission from anyone to talk to Shaebya. Fano and Shene are decimating Abiy's rag-tag military. So exactly what Ethiopia do you imagine to lead Africa technologically.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Horus » 03 Jun 2025, 01:57

sesame,
You are being pedantic. Ethiopia has sucked the entire oxygen out of the whole of the Horn of Africa and it is only in Ethiopia that you actually see daily and multiple local, regional, national and global activities - all kinds of activities from water to air, from technology to industry, from diplomacy to art and culture. Do you observe simply the number of international conferences happening in Addis each day?

Then you have inconsequential local fires and smokes that have no meaningful impact on our national agenda. Don't ever forget that Ethiopia is a huge nation that can walk and chew gum at the same time. Ethiopia can field a million man army around its national borders and engage in massive internal industrialization at the same time. We can fights wars on multiple fronts and modernize our cities at the same time. A nation of 130 million with 70% of those under 35 you are dealing with a tsunami.

So be careful not to become the victim of your own conditions - you are a nation of 3 million aging population, extremely poor. Last week you cancelled a soccer game because your country could not pay for hotel expenses for the player. Eritrea is that poor, very poor. So stop trying to compete with Ethiopia. Take a lesson from Egypt. Egypt tried to stop Ethiopia and lost big time. We just began another Dam. Your stupid president should never try say something he can't execute. He bad mouth the GERD! Then what? It was stupid! Sudan owes us millions of electric bill which they are over due.

In short, the sooner you accept the fact of Ethiopia, the better for you health well being because Ethiopia is too big for you! Sisi was smart enough to grasp this reality.

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Naga Tuma » 03 Jun 2025, 04:35

Can Ethiopia lead industrialization in Africa? Why not?

Can Ethiopia lead Africa’s next Industrial Revolution? Do you understand what that means?

እንደስትርያል ሬቮሉሽን ፈጠራ ስለ ኣመጣዉ ግዙፍ ለዉጥ ነዉ።

በዚህ ዘመን ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ የምታዉቀዉ ስንት ፈጠራዎች ኣሉ?

መቁጠር ቢቻል ያስደስታል።

ኣንተ ለምትለጥፋቸዉ ርዕሶች መልስ መስጠት ምኞት ዬለኝም። ግዙፍ ስህተትን ኣንብቦ ማለፍ ያስቸግረኛል። ስህተት ያስገምታል።

ኢትዮጵያዊያን ለጥልቅ ዕዉቀት ዝንባሌ ዬላቸዉም ብሎ የጻፈዉ ኣንተን ዐይነት አስተዉሎ መሆን ኣለበት።

የዘመኑን የኢትዮጵያ ፈጠራ ኣንድ፣ ሁለት ብለህ ቁጠር ብትባል የምያስቸግርህ ያለ ምክንያት ኣይዴለም።

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by sesame » 03 Jun 2025, 05:58

HorusAss

Ethiopia is a crumbling nation bound for a Yugoslavia-type implosion. But even if that was not the case, if there were no deadly civil wars pulling it asunder, the right path would be to revolutionize agriculture so that it can feed its 100 million people. The immediate question is: who is gonna feed the 20 million who depended on USAID? Revolutionizing agriculture would require massive efforts and self-reliance that the aid-addicted PP leaders cannot inspire. Industrialuzation is capital intensive. Where is that capital coming from? A nation that cannot guarantee its doctors a decent pay, a nation indebted to the tune of $60 billion, a nation which defaulted on its interest payments of a puny $30 million, and as result, was forced to devalue its currency to toilet paper level, is the last nation that should hallucinate about industrialization. The best scenario is to continue to be a w.h.o.r.e for the Emirates!

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by sarcasm » 03 Jun 2025, 08:11

Naga Tuma wrote:
03 Jun 2025, 04:35

እንደስትርያል ሬቮሉሽን ፈጠራ ስለ ኣመጣዉ ግዙፍ ለዉጥ ነዉ።

በዚህ ዘመን ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ የምታዉቀዉ ስንት ፈጠራዎች ኣሉ?

መቁጠር ቢቻል ያስደስታል።

የዘመኑን የኢትዮጵያ ፈጠራ ኣንድ፣ ሁለት ብለህ ቁጠር ብትባል የምያስቸግርህ ያለ ምክንያት ኣይዴለም።
ሳምና ሆረስ በምርቃና ጨዋታ ነው ያሉት። Objectivity በነሱ ጨዋታ ቦታ የላትም።

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Affable » 03 Jun 2025, 08:36

Eden, “ objectivity” እኔ ጋ ነው ያለው። ከ ኢሳያስ እና ከህወአት ካድሬዎች በስተቀር እስቲ ማን ነው ለናንተ “ ኦሮሙማ” ተረት እጅ እሚሰጥ። አቢይ የ “ ኦሮሙማ” መሪ ቢሆን ራቁትሽን ነበር እምትደንሺው በደስታ። ስላልሆነ ነው ይህ ሁሉ ጫጫታ።

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by sarcasm » 03 Jun 2025, 09:16

Affable wrote:
03 Jun 2025, 08:36
Eden, “ objectivity” እኔ ጋ ነው ያለው። ከ ኢሳያስ እና ከህወአት ካድሬዎች በስተቀር እስቲ ማን ነው ለናንተ “ ኦሮሙማ” ተረት እጅ እሚሰጥ። አቢይ የ “ ኦሮሙማ” መሪ ቢሆን ራቁትሽን ነበር እምትደንሺው በደስታ። ስላልሆነ ነው ይህ ሁሉ ጫጫታ።
ኦሮሙማ ምን አመጣው እዚህ?

እግረ መንገዳችን፤ እዛው ምርቃናህ እያለህ፤ ከኢትዮጵያ ጋር ሱፐር ፖወር የምትሆነውን ሁለተኛዋ አገር ንገረን በናትህ


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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Affable » 03 Jun 2025, 11:20

ምረቃናየ የሚመነጨው የትራይባል ፓለቲከኞች ከፓለቲካ ጨዋታ መሆናቸውን ከመመልከቴ ነው።
የለጠፉሽውን ቪዲዪ አላዳመጥኩም — አንዳንዶቻችን መስራት አለብን ለመኖር— ሱፐር ፓወር እንሆናለን ብሎ ከሆነ I say good for you.
እኔ የምጠላው inferiority complex የተጠናወተው የ ኢትዩጺያ መሪ ቢሆን ነው።
ሞራልን ለማሳደግ ትንሽ እውነትን ለጠጥ ቢያረግ ክፋት የለውም። ኢትዪጺያ ትልቅ ደረጃ ትደርሳለች ብለው የሚያምኑ አዲስ ትውልድ ለመፉጠር አወ የ ኢትዪጺያን የወደፊት ትልቅነት መተንበይ ጥሩ ነው።

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Naga Tuma » 03 Jun 2025, 13:48

sesame wrote:
03 Jun 2025, 05:58

Ethiopia is a crumbling nation bound for a Yugoslavia-type implosion. But even if that was not the case, if there were no deadly civil wars pulling it asunder, the right path would be to revolutionize agriculture so that it can feed its 100 million people. The immediate question is: who is gonna feed the 20 million who depended on USAID? Revolutionizing agriculture would require massive efforts ... Industrialization is capital intensive. Where is that capital coming from?
I think you would make an effective consultant if you look into how financing works.

Here is the paradox about Ethiopia’s agriculture that I have been reading from a distance.

If I am not mistaken, agriculture makes about upwards of eighty percent of the country’s economy.

Then again, it sounds like the price of its produce goes up exponentially.

As a layperson in economics, I ask how such a situation is not fit for an agricultural revolution in Ethiopia if there is an effective financing mechanism in place.

Yes, the sectarian strife has been a big hurdle in the way. It needed to be out of the way a long time ago.

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Zack » 03 Jun 2025, 14:05

Ethiopia faces structural impediments that hinder its rise as an industrial powerhouse. These include inadequate infrastructure, limited access to finance, inconsistent energy supply, and a landlocked geography that constrains trade logistics. Additionally, political instability and policy uncertainty undermine investor confidence, while low levels of human capital and technological capacity further impede its industrial advancemen indeed.


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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by sarcasm » 03 Jun 2025, 14:17

Affable wrote:
03 Jun 2025, 11:20
ምረቃናየ የሚመነጨው የትራይባል ፓለቲከኞች ከፓለቲካ ጨዋታ መሆናቸውን ከመመልከቴ ነው።
አቢይ የሚገዛበት ሕገመንግስት what you call 'የትራይባል ሕገመንግስት' ነው። የOPDO መንግስት እንደ የTPLF መንግስት what you call 'የትራይባል መንግስት' ነው። OPDO is as tribal as Amara Fano and TPLF. ነገር ግን ኢትዮጵያ ሱፐር ፓወር ናት ብሎ የሚያሳምን ምርቃና ከተገኘ፤ የOPDO መንግስት ኢትዮፕያኒስት ነው ብሎ የሚያሳምን ምርቃና ይጠፋል አልልም።

When we talk about the next industrial revolution, the world is talking about dark factories. አቢይ ወጣቶች እየገደለ ያለው በአዲሱ ኢንዳስትርያል ረኢቮሊሽን ብዙ ሰራተኞስ ስለማያስፈልጉ ነው የሚያስብል ምርቃና ይኖርህ ይሆናል።



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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Horus » 03 Jun 2025, 14:42

Zack wrote:
03 Jun 2025, 14:05
Ethiopia faces structural impediments that hinder its rise as an industrial powerhouse. These include inadequate infrastructure, limited access to finance, inconsistent energy supply, and a landlocked geography that constrains trade logistics. Additionally, political instability and policy uncertainty undermine investor confidence, while low levels of human capital and technological capacity further impede its industrial advancemen indeed.


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You are engaged in an exercise of tautology. If those development constraints were not present, we would not have problems of development. We have what we call problem-solving because there are problems in this world. And, what must we do? I say, if you have a purpose, just do it! And, I say the best solution requires a maximum exertion. ኢትዮጵያ ያንን ታደርጋለች አለቀ!
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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Affable » 03 Jun 2025, 14:47

Yes, Eden, you are right የሚገዛበት ህገመንግስት ትራይባል ነው። አካሄዱን ወድጄዋለሁ። መጀመሪያ አጎቶቾሽን ፣ የወለጋ አማፂያንን ፣ እነዛ ኢትዪጺያዊነትን ከአማራነት በሃላ ሊያስተዋውቁን የሚፈልጉትን ቀስ በቀስ ከፓለቲካው ውጪ ማድረግ አለበት። ኢትዪጺያን ዘመናዊ የማድረጉን ጉዞ መቀጠል አለበት ምክንያቱም ትራይባሊዝምን ያቀጭጫልና።
ህገመንግስቱና የሰለጠነች ኢትዪጺያ አብረው ሊሄዱ ይችላሉ ? እድሜ ይስጠን የዛን መልስ ለማወቅ።

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Re: Can Ethiopia Lead Africa’s Next Industrial Revolution?

Post by Zack » 03 Jun 2025, 15:19

Even with the full mobilisation of resources, the attainment of industrial greatness remains unattainable without a foundation of sound education, robust institutions, and the deliberate cultivation of human capital. Ethiopia, as it stands, struggles to adequately feed its population of over 100 million peoples of whom perhaps only half enjoy the basic dignity of three meals a day. The nation’s foremost priority, therefore, must not be industrial ambition, but rather the elevation of its people: ensuring they are nourished, educated, and empowered to become a productive and capable workforce. Only then can true and sustainable development take root. And create a sort of human capital indeed.


Dr Zackovich

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