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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Dama » 17 May 2025, 00:40

Good research! Credit 4.
You can see that she
understands her father is from.Gurage but as much as she loved him she could not speak his language. coworkers, artists, translated Gurage songs to Amharic to her to song them, such sonhs as Ebo!


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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Dama » 17 May 2025, 01:00

Are we then not entitled to question how Gafats influenced the culture and worldview of Abyssinia and Mecha-Tuluma Oromo, especially when mother of warrior Menelickl II was a Gurage, grandmother of Haile Sellasie was a Gurage, the only son of Menelick II Asfawesen was from a Gurage wife, Ras Gobena Dace's wife Ayelech was a Gurage?

Gurage is royal because it is a warrior. Too bad, it's a history of the past, not a present account of events.

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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Dama » 17 May 2025, 01:20

Odie is on the right track in terms of cohesive power projections for ultimate Gurage thrive, of course hardships of downs and ups in between varaiable events are a given, but finally to thrive in the long term from support of indomitable Fano.
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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Union » 17 May 2025, 01:23

Stop lying :lol:

Minilk and Haile Selassie are pure Amara Ethiopians :lol: :x :lol:


Fck off :lol:
Dama wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:00
Are we then not entitled to question how Gafats influenced the culture and worldview of Abyssinia and Mecha-Tuluma Oromo, especially when mother of warrior Menelickl II was a Gurage, grandmother of Haile Sellasie was a Gurage, the only son of Menelick II Asfawesen was from a Gurage wife, Ras Gobena Dace's wife Ayelech was a Gurage?

Gurage is royal because it is a warrior. Too bad, it's a history of the past, not a present account of events.

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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Horus » 17 May 2025, 01:28

Dama wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:00
Are we then not entitled to question how Gafats influenced the culture and worldview of Abyssinia and Mecha-Tuluma Oromo, especially when mother of warrior Menelickl II was a Gurage, grandmother of Haile Sellasie was a Gurage, the only son of Menelick II Asfawesen was from a Gurage wife, Ras Gobena Dace's wife Ayelech was a Gurage?

Gurage is royal because it is a warrior. Too bad, it's a history of the past, not a present account of events.
እኔ ሌላ ቦታ ነግሬሃለሁ ። የራስ ደስታ ድምጠው ልጅ እስክንድር ደስታ የኃይለ ስላሴ ሴት ልጅ ልጅ ስለሆነና በጣም ተወዳጅ ስለነበር ልዑል መኮንን ከሞተ በኋላ ዘውድ የሚረከበው እሱ ነው ይባል ነበር ። ደርግ ገደለው እንጂ ። ስለዚህ አው ጉራጌ ከነአብቴ ዲነግዴ ጀምሮና ከዚያም በፊት ከንጉስ ሳህለ ስላሤ ጀምሮ ከቤተ መንግስት አጠገብ ርቆ ያልኖረ ሕዝብ ነው።

ማለትም ጉራጌ ለምን ከማንኛውም ኢትዮጵያዊ የላቀ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄረተኛ እንደ ሆነ መገንዘብ አለብህ! በታሪኩ የገባር ሲስተም ውስጥ ያልኖረ ባለመሬት ባለ አገር ሕዝብ ነው። ዛሬ ታሪኩን የማያውቅ ጥሬ ወጣት መገንጠልን ከትግሬ ኦሮሞና ሌሎች ሊማር ይፈልጋል።

ዛሬም አልመሸም የጉራጌን ታላቅ ሕዝብነት ይመለሳል ።

ጉራጌ በብዙ ብዙ መንገድ ኢትዮጵያን ኢንፍሉወንስ አድርጓል ። ከጉራጌ ጋር የተደባለቁት ኦሮሞች በብዙ መንገድ ባህላቸው ጉራጌ ነው ። ክርስቲያን የኢትዮጵያ አፍቃሪ ናቸው ። ማዕከላዊ መንግስትን የሚጠብቁ አገር የማይከዱ አገር ገምቢ ናቸው ። ጉራጌ ኢትዮጵያ ከንግድ ጥበብ እስከ ሥራ ጥበብ ፣ ከባንኪግ እስከ ከተማ መገምባት ኢትዮጵያን ያስተማሩ ሕዝብ ናቸው። ጉራጌ ያልተዘመረለት ሕዝብ ነው። የእንደጋኝ ጉራጌ ለመናት ያስተማረው የምህንድስና ጥበብና ቤት አሰራር ማንም የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳ ዛሬ ድረስ አይሰራውም ።

የዘመኑ ጉራጌ ችግር እራሱንም ሆነ ባህሉን አለማወቁ ነው ።

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Post by Dama » 17 May 2025, 01:33

Union wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:23
Stop lying :lol:

Minilk and Haile Selassie are pure Amara Ethiopians :lol: :x :lol:


Fck off :lol:
Dama wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:00
Are we then not entitled to question how Gafats influenced the culture and worldview of Abyssinia and Mecha-Tuluma Oromo, especially when mother of warrior Menelickl II was a Gurage, grandmother of Haile Sellasie was a Gurage, the only son of Menelick II Asfawesen was from a Gurage wife, Ras Gobena Dace's wife Ayelech was a Gurage?

Gurage is royal because it is a warrior. Too bad, it's a history of the past, not a present account of events.
Oh' Dummy! Judge Judy ask: Do you think you were losing?
Answer: yes your honor
Judge Judy would answer: No you were not. I can tell you that, duugh


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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Horus » 17 May 2025, 01:43

ጎሺ ወደድኩንም ነብስዲ ያህለ ! ልጁን እንደ ነብሴ ወድጄዋለሁ !!


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Re: Dama: You Are Right. ያስቴር አባት ጉራጌ ነው! ግን እሷ በፍጹም በባህሉ ውስጥ አላደገችም

Post by Union » 17 May 2025, 01:45

ስልጤ ጋላ Horus ጋላን መሳደብ ጀመረ

What happened :lol: :lol: :lol:

Horus wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:28
Dama wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:00
Are we then not entitled to question how Gafats influenced the culture and worldview of Abyssinia and Mecha-Tuluma Oromo, especially when mother of warrior Menelickl II was a Gurage, grandmother of Haile Sellasie was a Gurage, the only son of Menelick II Asfawesen was from a Gurage wife, Ras Gobena Dace's wife Ayelech was a Gurage?

Gurage is royal because it is a warrior. Too bad, it's a history of the past, not a present account of events.
እኔ ሌላ ቦታ ነግሬሃለሁ ። የራስ ደስታ ድምጠው ልጅ እስክንድር ደስታ የኃይለ ስላሴ ሴት ልጅ ልጅ ስለሆነና በጣም ተወዳጅ ስለነበር ልዑል መኮንን ከሞተ በኋላ ዘውድ የሚረከበው እሱ ነው ይባል ነበር ። ደርግ ገደለው እንጂ ። ስለዚህ አው ጉራጌ ከነአብቴ ዲነግዴ ጀምሮና ከዚያም በፊት ከንጉስ ሳህለ ስላሤ ጀምሮ ከቤተ መንግስት አጠገብ ርቆ ያልኖረ ሕዝብ ነው።

ማለትም ጉራጌ ለምን ከማንኛውም ኢትዮጵያዊ የላቀ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄረተኛ እንደ ሆነ መገንዘብ አለብህ! በታሪኩ የገባር ሲስተም ውስጥ ያልኖረ ባለመሬት ባለ አገር ሕዝብ ነው። ዛሬ ታሪኩን የማያውቅ ጥሬ ወጣት መገንጠልን ከትግሬ ኦሮሞና ሌሎች ሊማር ይፈልጋል።

ዛሬም አልመሸም የጉራጌን ታላቅ ሕዝብነት ይመለሳል ።

ጉራጌ በብዙ ብዙ መንገድ ኢትዮጵያን ኢንፍሉወንስ አድርጓል ። ከጉራጌ ጋር የተደባለቁት ኦሮሞች በብዙ መንገድ ባህላቸው ጉራጌ ነው ። ክርስቲያን የኢትዮጵያ አፍቃሪ ናቸው ። ማዕከላዊ መንግስትን የሚጠብቁ አገር የማይከዱ አገር ገምቢ ናቸው ። ጉራጌ ኢትዮጵያ ከንግድ ጥበብ እስከ ሥራ ጥበብ ፣ ከባንኪግ እስከ ከተማ መገምባት ኢትዮጵያን ያስተማሩ ሕዝብ ናቸው። ጉራጌ ያልተዘመረለት ሕዝብ ነው። የእንደጋኝ ጉራጌ ለመናት ያስተማረው የምህንድስና ጥበብና ቤት አሰራር ማንም የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳ ዛሬ ድረስ አይሰራውም ።

የዘመኑ ጉራጌ ችግር እራሱንም ሆነ ባህሉን አለማወቁ ነው ።

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Post by Dama » 17 May 2025, 02:10

Horus wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:28
Dama wrote:
17 May 2025, 01:00
Are we then not entitled to question how Gafats influenced the culture and worldview of Abyssinia and Mecha-Tuluma Oromo, especially when mother of warrior Menelickl II was a Gurage, grandmother of Haile Sellasie was a Gurage, the only son of Menelick II Asfawesen was from a Gurage wife, Ras Gobena Dace's wife Ayelech was a Gurage?

Gurage is royal because it is a warrior. Too bad, it's a history of the past, not a present account of events.
እኔ ሌላ ቦታ ነግሬሃለሁ ። የራስ ደስታ ድምጠው ልጅ እስክንድር ደስታ የኃይለ ስላሴ ሴት ልጅ ልጅ ስለሆነና በጣም ተወዳጅ ስለነበር ልዑል መኮንን ከሞተ በኋላ ዘውድ የሚረከበው እሱ ነው ይባል ነበር ። ደርግ ገደለው እንጂ ። ስለዚህ አው ጉራጌ ከነአብቴ ዲነግዴ ጀምሮና ከዚያም በፊት ከንጉስ ሳህለ ስላሤ ጀምሮ ከቤተ መንግስት አጠገብ ርቆ ያልኖረ ሕዝብ ነው።

ማለትም ጉራጌ ለምን ከማንኛውም ኢትዮጵያዊ የላቀ የኢትዮጵያ ብሄረተኛ እንደ ሆነ መገንዘብ አለብህ! በታሪኩ የገባር ሲስተም ውስጥ ያልኖረ ባለመሬት ባለ አገር ሕዝብ ነው። ዛሬ ታሪኩን የማያውቅ ጥሬ ወጣት መገንጠልን ከትግሬ ኦሮሞና ሌሎች ሊማር ይፈልጋል።

ዛሬም አልመሸም የጉራጌን ታላቅ ሕዝብነት ይመለሳል ።

ጉራጌ በብዙ ብዙ መንገድ ኢትዮጵያን ኢንፍሉወንስ አድርጓል ። ከጉራጌ ጋር የተደባለቁት ኦሮሞች በብዙ መንገድ ባህላቸው ጉራጌ ነው ። ክርስቲያን የኢትዮጵያ አፍቃሪ ናቸው ። ማዕከላዊ መንግስትን የሚጠብቁ አገር የማይከዱ አገር ገምቢ ናቸው ። ጉራጌ ኢትዮጵያ ከንግድ ጥበብ እስከ ሥራ ጥበብ ፣ ከባንኪግ እስከ ከተማ መገምባት ኢትዮጵያን ያስተማሩ ሕዝብ ናቸው። ጉራጌ ያልተዘመረለት ሕዝብ ነው። የእንደጋኝ ጉራጌ ለመናት ያስተማረው የምህንድስና ጥበብና ቤት አሰራር ማንም የኢትዮጵያ ጎሳ ዛሬ ድረስ አይሰራውም ።

የዘመኑ ጉራጌ ችግር እራሱንም ሆነ ባህሉን አለማወቁ ነው ።
Completely right.

To have a historical context to this note is that when Amara began southward expansion, one of the settled communities it met were the Gafats and their subclan of Bizamo. Historians located village names bearing Gafat language near Menz, Tegublet, etc. As a result of these findings they believe the Gafats were pushed westward to the Abay River by the southward expansion of Amara.

What can safely be concluded is that a large part of Shewa was a Gafat Gurage territory prior to the advent of southward Amara movement followed by Oromo north bound movement. The Gafat Gurages who were close kins of Chebo, Gelila, Amaya and Sodo or Kistane were squeezed betweenn two alien forces of doom. May be they did not resist their enemies enough. May be they did not see them as enemies who would extinct them. May be they saw them as weird strangers residing on no-mans lands or common grasslands who would not hurt them but in time they learnt these strangers demanded that the natives speak their language.

Believe me that the cushitic revolultion is here to stay. It's ked by OLF and PP. They may not call it Oromoma but it's and more than that. It envelopes, coordinates and unifies the views and actions of all cushitic language speakers. It targets Amara and Gurage as enemies but Tigrey and Eritrea as comrades. I strongly believe Odie is right in supporting Fano. Shaf I will do farrher than suppoeting Fano is organizing a Gurage group to fight for its legitimate and equitable rights in Ethiopia

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