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"ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Abere » 30 Mar 2025, 10:13

"ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

ሻዕብያ የኢትዮጵያ ታሪካዊ ጥላት ካልሆነ፤ ህወሓት፤ ኦነግ-ብልጽግና እንድሁ የኢትዮጵያ ጥላቶች አይደሉም ማለት ነው - በኢ/ር ይልቃል ተጠየቃዊ ስሌት። :mrgreen: ምክንያቱም ወያኔን ያዬ ሻዕብያን ያውቃል፤ በወያኔ ዘንድ ሻዕብያ አለ፤ ኦነግን ያየ እንድሁ እራሱ ሻዕብያን አየ ማለት ነው። ሶስት የኢትዮጵያ ጥላቶች ሲሆኑ በአንድ ሳንባ የሚተነፍሱ ፀረ-አማራ ሃይሎች ናቸው። If A= B= C, then A = C

እጅህን ታጥበህ ና! የትግል ማዕዱ ንጹህ ይሆን ዘንድ።

በጥገና ለውጥ ስም በአሜሪካ አደራዳሪነት እንደእነ በለጠ ሞላ በሚንስትርነት ዳረጎት የተበየደ የብልጽግና እና ኢህአድግ ስርዐት ለማስቀጠል ከሆነ አሁንም በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ መቆመር ይሆናል። ምናልባት እስክንድር ነጋ ከሻዕብያ እና ወያኔ (ከእነ ምግበይ) ይበልጥ የተጠላበት እስክንድር መሰረታዊ ስር-ነቀል የስነ-መንግስት እና የፓለቲካ ርዕዮት ተከታይ በመሆኑ ይሆን? ይህ ስር-ነቀል ለውጥ ኢትዮጵያን እግር ከወርች አስሮ የያዛትን የጎሳ ክልል ስርወ-መንግስት ስለሚጥል እና የ100 አመታት የቤት ስራው ስለሚሰረዝ ይሆን?



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Re: "ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Dama » 30 Mar 2025, 10:46

I think he carried out 'forces analysis', a typical job of an engineer on a daily basis in a design office, sees what forces confront him and concluded that he has to acknowledge their existence to map his way forward..

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Re: "ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Abere » 30 Mar 2025, 11:05

Socio-political dynamics are tidal of complex webs and are not the same as physical events which are easy to model and predict. Thus, politics is a different dimension. That mean in socio-political dynamics, it is not the magnitude rather "a little yeast leavens the whole batch". In other words, who has quality thinking and see the light at the end of the tunnel.

We know both Shabia and PP-OLF are pouring money for swarm of YouTuber activists to trample truth, which they will never success.

Dama wrote:
30 Mar 2025, 10:46
I think he carried out 'forces analysis', a typical job of an engineer on a daily basis in a design office, sees what forces confront him and concluded that he has to acknowledge their existence to map his way forward..

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Re: "ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Dama » 30 Mar 2025, 11:25

I don't think it's lost on him that physical laws cannot be directly applied to social forces. Definitely he believes that Amara has the reason not to be undermined, the pop numbers and the resources to endure a long and bloody protracted war, with access to Sudan to bring in humanitarian and war supplies, as well as for refugees to flee Amara region.
Equally, he acknowledges the formidable forces of Tigrey and Eritrea. Afar rebellion also access to the Red Sea and Ogaden through Somalia.

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Re: "ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Abere » 30 Mar 2025, 11:46

This is not about Amhara vs Tigre (Tigray and Eritrea), it is about was about him saying that Shabia is NOT a an enemy to Ethiopia? Shabia itself must be laughing at this ridiculous statement.


Dama wrote:
30 Mar 2025, 11:25
I don't think it's lost on him that physical laws cannot be directly applied to social forces. Definitely he believes that Amara has the reason not to be undermined, the pop numbers and the resources to endure a long and bloody protracted war, with access to Sudan to bring in humanitarian and war supplies, as well as for refugees to flee Amara region.
Equally, he acknowledges the formidable forces of Tigrey and Eritrea. Afar rebellion also access to the Red Sea and Ogaden through Somalia.

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Re: "ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Dama » 30 Mar 2025, 12:14

Abere wrote:
30 Mar 2025, 11:46
This is not about Amhara vs Tigre (Tigray and Eritrea), it is about was about him saying that Shabia is NOT a an enemy to Ethiopia? Shabia itself must be laughing at this ridiculous statement.


Dama wrote:
30 Mar 2025, 11:25
I don't think it's lost on him that physical laws cannot be directly applied to social forces. Definitely he believes that Amara has the reason not to be undermined, the pop numbers and the resources to endure a long and bloody protracted war, with access to Sudan to bring in humanitarian and war supplies, as well as for refugees to flee Amara region.
Equally, he acknowledges the formidable forces of Tigrey and Eritrea. Afar rebellion also access to the Red Sea and Ogaden through Somalia.
May be for a reason. To please Mesay sensing he liked the Sabia official offer to supply weapons to Fano via Sudan. But the fact remains, TPLF, OLF and other lfs remain obstacle to re-inventing the past dominance of Amara in Ethiopian politics.

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Re: "ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

Post by Union » 30 Mar 2025, 12:50

Abere,

ትክክል። ታላቁ እስክንድርን የሚጠሉት ፈረንጆቹ የመሰረቷቸውን ድርጅቶች በሙሉ በጣጥሶ ስለሚጥላቸው ነው እነሱም በአዴን ፣ ህውሀት፣ ብልፅግና፣ ኦነግ ናቸው።

አገው ይልቃል በቦሌ ፈልሰስ ብላ መጥታ በድርድር እርቅ ማምጣት እንቻለን ብላ ጀርመን ላይ ስብሰባ ከአገው ገዱ ጋር ስትመራ ብልፅግናን ወክላ ነው የነበረው። ግን ተቃዋሚ ነኝ እያለች ለማስመሰል ጋላ አብይን ትሰድባለች። :lol:
Abere wrote:
30 Mar 2025, 10:13
"ሻዕብያ ታሪካዊ ጥላታችን አይደለም።" ኢ/ር ይልቃል። እስክንድር ነጋ ግን......

ሻዕብያ የኢትዮጵያ ታሪካዊ ጥላት ካልሆነ፤ ህወሓት፤ ኦነግ-ብልጽግና እንድሁ የኢትዮጵያ ጥላቶች አይደሉም ማለት ነው - በኢ/ር ይልቃል ተጠየቃዊ ስሌት። :mrgreen: ምክንያቱም ወያኔን ያዬ ሻዕብያን ያውቃል፤ በወያኔ ዘንድ ሻዕብያ አለ፤ ኦነግን ያየ እንድሁ እራሱ ሻዕብያን አየ ማለት ነው። ሶስት የኢትዮጵያ ጥላቶች ሲሆኑ በአንድ ሳንባ የሚተነፍሱ ፀረ-አማራ ሃይሎች ናቸው። If A= B= C, then A = C

እጅህን ታጥበህ ና! የትግል ማዕዱ ንጹህ ይሆን ዘንድ።

በጥገና ለውጥ ስም በአሜሪካ አደራዳሪነት እንደእነ በለጠ ሞላ በሚንስትርነት ዳረጎት የተበየደ የብልጽግና እና ኢህአድግ ስርዐት ለማስቀጠል ከሆነ አሁንም በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ መቆመር ይሆናል። ምናልባት እስክንድር ነጋ ከሻዕብያ እና ወያኔ (ከእነ ምግበይ) ይበልጥ የተጠላበት እስክንድር መሰረታዊ ስር-ነቀል የስነ-መንግስት እና የፓለቲካ ርዕዮት ተከታይ በመሆኑ ይሆን? ይህ ስር-ነቀል ለውጥ ኢትዮጵያን እግር ከወርች አስሮ የያዛትን የጎሳ ክልል ስርወ-መንግስት ስለሚጥል እና የ100 አመታት የቤት ስራው ስለሚሰረዝ ይሆን?



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