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[Abere]

Sidama ----- 1,261,721
Somalie --- 1,613,394
Guragie ---- 1,855,905
Adere --- 29,518


Refer to page 44 &+
https://international.ipums.org/interna ... t1984a.pdf

[Abere]

Horus,

What is your thought about the reason for the lag of Guragie population size compared with Somalie. Somalie is perhaps the 3rd largest population now, while it was smaller than Guragie back in the 1984 census. That is how now Abiy Ahmed is allocating budget and power.

[Odie]

Abere,
Even with that number Gurage is denied of kilil while sidama got one because Sidama is a cush closer to Orma
They did not want to creat another semitic ethnic kilil that may go with northerners!
Tigre refused gurage to stand as kilil because they said gurage was ግልገል ትምክህተኛ

So the gurage oppression continues. Abiy divided gurage on economic benefit-kistane got corridor development while meskan got other projects and both sing kumbaya to galla god!

[Selam/]

ጭልፊቱ በአንድ ጎዶሎ ቀን በድንገት ሲያስነጥሱ በስህተት የተፈጠረና በኋላም ከተጣለበት ጉድጓድ ውስጥ ተጎትቶ ወጥቶ በማደጎ ያደገ ድውይ ፍጡር ነው። ለዚህም ማስረጃው እናቶችን መጥላቱ ነው።

ስለዚህ ከመወለድ ጋር የተያያዘን ጥያቄ በትክክል ሊመልስ አይችልም።

[Dama]

Horus,

What is your thought about the reason for the lag of Guragie population size compared with Somalie. Somalie is perhaps the 3rd largest population now, while it was smaller than Guragie back in the 1984 census. That is how now Abiy Ahmed is allocating budget and power.

Wrong person you asked the question. Baboon Horus is not reputed to sharing knowledge of any kind. He is best know for the Corridor propganda, MoU letter between his PP party and Somaliland. I might add that he is also well known for believing that words that sound similar have commonalities such as two, too and to. Weird linguist you might say and probably he is.

John Oliver, published a book titled "African Architecture, 1972, in which he documented traditional African house building materials, methods and styles. For obvious reasons, 7bet Gurage house architecture topped his list.
In that very book, he estimated Gurage population, includes Gurages in and out of Gurage country to be between 6-8 million. He consideted all Gurage dialect speakers such Zai of Lake Zway, Silte, Azernet/Berbere, Welene, Qoqir/Gedebano, the now secessionist Horus clan of Almale, Mesmes(now endangered by Hadiya but still part of Sebat Bet.


At present, projecting the pop increase at 2% per year which is the lowest edge of scale, all Gurage population must exceed 15 million. You do the calculation.

[Dama]

Abere,
Even with that number Gurage is denied of kilil while sidama got one because Sidama is a cush closer to Orma
They did not want to creat another semitic ethnic kilil that may go with northerners!
Tigre refused gurage to stand as kilil because they said gurage was ግልገል ትምክህተኛ

So the gurage oppression continues. Abiy divided gurage on economic benefit-kistane got corridor development while meskan got other projects and both sing kumbaya to galla god!

That's just part of it. A vision of establishing a cushitic empire on the grave of Ethiopian empire. This is per OPFIST, an OLF demagogue line of thinking.
OLF terrorists trained SLF terrorists. Sidama nationalists in return described oromo as political minority but a pop majority. SLF were/are the timidest armed groups Ethiopia has. Menelick spent only one day, 6 hours, to defeat the Sidamo militia.

He could not defeat Gurage for 15 years. Conducted 11 campaigns in which he participated in two of the 11. Odie, neftenyaw, we beat your ancestor to the punch for 11 years.

[Abere]

You have a point, even with that number Guragie is not allowed to have a region when compared አዴሬ

1) Tigre itself is smaller than Guragie in terms of population size. TPLF did not want Guragie to be among the top three. TPLF was trying to save the 3rd place spot for itself.

2) TPLF sold Guragie down the river to Orommuma by tossing significant chunk of Guragie to Oromia, and to other groups;

Remember: The 1984 census was the only genuine baseline, because people self-reported their ethnicity without any coercion.
3) The most important thing, that proportion would never change and the absolute true figure on the ground is Guragie are larger in number than Somalie and Tigre. Ato Abiy Ahmed has been trying his arse off to put the number down and gradually swallow using some Mogassaized Guragie? like Aba-Geda Berhanu Nega, who recently said he did not Ethiopia until he drunk from Orommuma glass and f!lrted with Guji girls - sugar Aba-geda

Abere,
Even with that number Gurage is denied of kilil while sidama got one because Sidama is a cush closer to Orma
They did not want to creat another semitic ethnic kilil that may go with northerners!
Tigre refused gurage to stand as kilil because they said gurage was ግልገል ትምክህተኛ

So the gurage oppression continues. Abiy divided gurage on economic benefit-kistane got corridor development while meskan got other projects and both sing kumbaya to galla god!

[Odie]

You have a point, even with that number Guragie is not allowed to have a region when compared አዴሬ

1) Tigre itself is smaller than Guragie in terms of population size. TPLF did not want Guragie to be among the top three. TPLF was trying to save the 3rd place spot for itself.

2) TPLF sold Guragie down the river to Orommuma by tossing significant chunk of Guragie to Oromia, and to other groups;

Remember: The 1984 census was the only genuine baseline, because people self-reported their ethnicity without any coercion.
3) The most important thing, that proportion would never change and the absolute true figure on the ground is Guragie are larger in number than Somalie and Tigre. Ato Abiy Ahmed has been trying his arse off to put the number down and gradually swallow using some Mogassaized Guragie? like Aba-Geda Berhanu Nega, who recently said he did not Ethiopia until he drunk from Orommuma glass and f!lrted with Guji girls - sugar Aba-geda

Abere,
Even with that number Gurage is denied of kilil while sidama got one because Sidama is a cush closer to Orma
They did not want to creat another semitic ethnic kilil that may go with northerners!
Tigre refused gurage to stand as kilil because they said gurage was ግልገል ትምክህተኛ

So the gurage oppression continues. Abiy divided gurage on economic benefit-kistane got corridor development while meskan got other projects and both sing kumbaya to galla god!

The gurage are lost people!
They are divided except in their name, dance and meskal!
Now some are busy to defend their indefensible Oromo masters. For me when Gurage could not open a single TV channel and hooked onto OBN and when they were refused to have kilil, I said gurage is sold out to Oromo. In fact because of sodo godena and kistane who are close to Oromo, the oromuma see gurage as their special zone

[Dama]

So indifferent. So alien from within. I have always said you were not a Gurage.

Gurage is not lost. Neither confused about itself and neighbors.
More commonalities than differences. But these minor differences get exploited to weaken it so that it won'be able to resist assimilation and land grabs. So called elites refuse to do the hardwork of nationalism, believing more for loyalty for the 19th century cinstituted polity of unstable Ethiopia. Listen to Prof. Bedlu Waqjira's poem to his child to forget the notion of Gurage land for greater Ethiopia