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Deqi-Arawit
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Re: Tigrians admitted that creating a grudge toward their Northern cousins was the biggest mistake they have done

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 22 Feb 2025, 17:39

Sadacha Macca wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 17:33
Once again, as usual, you display your lack of knowledge man.
Tplf was already defeated before shabia got militarily involved.

The movement sparked by the oromo protests, that led to other nations within Ethiopia doing the same, in coordination with the major parties within the eprdf (opdo and andm) working within to weaken the tplf; is what removed the tplf from power.
Shabia was a bystander watching with joy, from the outside.
I know that you love your tegaru kin, there's nothing wrong with that either, but sometimes love makes us exaggerate and overvalue things. Which is natural as well..I get it.
The tplf to Ethiopia isn't what shabia is to eritrea. Kebessa are at least half of eritrea, tegaru are not even 10 percent of Ethiopia.
The tplf only ruled for so long because it had allies, opportunistic allies, from among the two major nations, oromo and amara.
Without that, it wouldn't have ruled for a year, forget about the almost 3 decade rule of theirs.
Public unrest doesn't topple political system, After all, they were successful to extinguish the political movement which was ignited by Hailu Shwel in 2005 by killing, incarcerating opposition individuals.

Beside this, Without the support of Shaebia no Oromo or Amhara would have set his feet in Tigray. This is a fact. And that is exactly what the gentle man has said.

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Re: Tigrians admitted that creating a grudge toward their Northern cousins was the biggest mistake they have done

Post by Dark Energy » 22 Feb 2025, 17:45

Deqi,

When you belittle Western democracy or any democratic system for that matter, you give little support to the man. BTW, neither the West nor the East are impressed by the man. The way Putin was looking at him, that indeed was classic.

Sadacha,

I totally support Oromo Liberation Front. I hate the little hybrid twerp. That has nothing to do to the brotherly Oromo people.

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Re: Tigrians admitted that creating a grudge toward their Northern cousins was the biggest mistake they have done

Post by Sadacha Macca » 22 Feb 2025, 17:54

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 17:39
Sadacha Macca wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 17:33
Once again, as usual, you display your lack of knowledge man.
Tplf was already defeated before shabia got militarily involved.

The movement sparked by the oromo protests, that led to other nations within Ethiopia doing the same, in coordination with the major parties within the eprdf (opdo and andm) working within to weaken the tplf; is what removed the tplf from power.
Shabia was a bystander watching with joy, from the outside.
I know that you love your tegaru kin, there's nothing wrong with that either, but sometimes love makes us exaggerate and overvalue things. Which is natural as well..I get it.
The tplf to Ethiopia isn't what shabia is to eritrea. Kebessa are at least half of eritrea, tegaru are not even 10 percent of Ethiopia.
The tplf only ruled for so long because it had allies, opportunistic allies, from among the two major nations, oromo and amara.
Without that, it wouldn't have ruled for a year, forget about the almost 3 decade rule of theirs.
Public unrest doesn't topple political system, After all, they were successful to extinguish the political movement which was ignited by Hailu Shwel in 2005 by killing, incarcerating opposition individuals.

Beside this, Without the support of Shaebia no Oromo or Amhara would have set his feet in Tigray. This is a fact. And that is exactly what the gentle man has said.

Dismantling the tplfs hegemony doesn't mean the entire system was toppled, though.
That 2005 movement was isolated to just parts of Addis, the Oromo movement was far more widespread and crippled the economy.
Shabia definitely played a huge role in the war but not in the events before it. Besides, the militias and endf would've fought there regardless. Tigray is not some distant land, it's in our country, and can be invaded from the south, east, west, etc.
The gentleman was exaggerating, the same way many others have. Some tplf cadres were saying war is their traditional dance, then they were overwhelmed and were eerily silent.
Empty bravado is lame. I respect shabia for that actually, they never bragged about their heroic past or feats, an Eritrean man said that on a documentary and I respect that a lot.

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Re: Tigrians admitted that creating a grudge toward their Northern cousins was the biggest mistake they have done

Post by Abere » 22 Feb 2025, 18:05

Well, Shabia was feeding and fattening Dawud Ibssa, Berhanu Nega (Ezema). Shabia was a conduit between OLF and Egypt. Abiy Ahmed and Lemma as OLF were working everyday with Shabia before TPLF flee to Mekelle.

When Dawud Ibssa arrived in Addis Ababa, for his coronation, thousands of Burayu Gamu had to be slaughtered. When one thinks of OPDO/OLF, it is impossible to exclude Shabia. Every misery , destruction, suffering caused by OLF-PP is 100% product of Shabia. If there were no Shabia, there would not be OLF; and if there were no OLF, we could not be talking any more about Shabia and the fake country of "Eritrea". Do count of Woyane too in this.
For the good of the people, these thugs have to be removed - they do not have people centered or caused agenda. Their agenda is that of serving as mercenaries.

Sadacha Macca wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 17:54
Deqi-Arawit wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 17:39
Sadacha Macca wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 17:33
Once again, as usual, you display your lack of knowledge man.
Tplf was already defeated before shabia got militarily involved.

The movement sparked by the oromo protests, that led to other nations within Ethiopia doing the same, in coordination with the major parties within the eprdf (opdo and andm) working within to weaken the tplf; is what removed the tplf from power.
Shabia was a bystander watching with joy, from the outside.
I know that you love your tegaru kin, there's nothing wrong with that either, but sometimes love makes us exaggerate and overvalue things. Which is natural as well..I get it.
The tplf to Ethiopia isn't what shabia is to eritrea. Kebessa are at least half of eritrea, tegaru are not even 10 percent of Ethiopia.
The tplf only ruled for so long because it had allies, opportunistic allies, from among the two major nations, oromo and amara.
Without that, it wouldn't have ruled for a year, forget about the almost 3 decade rule of theirs.
Public unrest doesn't topple political system, After all, they were successful to extinguish the political movement which was ignited by Hailu Shwel in 2005 by killing, incarcerating opposition individuals.

Beside this, Without the support of Shaebia no Oromo or Amhara would have set his feet in Tigray. This is a fact. And that is exactly what the gentle man has said.

Dismantling the tplfs hegemony doesn't mean the entire system was toppled, though.
That 2005 movement was isolated to just parts of Addis, the Oromo movement was far more widespread and crippled the economy.
Shabia definitely played a huge role in the war but not in the events before it. Besides, the militias and endf would've fought there regardless. Tigray is not some distant land, it's in our country, and can be invaded from the south, east, west, etc.
The gentleman was exaggerating, the same way many others have. Some tplf cadres were saying war is their traditional dance, then they were overwhelmed and were eerily silent.
Empty bravado is lame. I respect shabia for that actually, they never bragged about their heroic past or feats, an Eritrean man said that on a documentary and I respect that a lot.

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