Re: THE TURKISH-EGYPTIAN BATTLE FOR THE CONTROL OF SOMALIA - BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR ETHIOPIA?
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 20:51The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) effectively died and lost its relevance the moment Ethiopia began negotiating with the Somali government, likely in pursuit of a more favorable agreement. However, Somalia has remained steadfast in its political stance, insisting that Somali sovereignty must be respected before any face-to-face discussions can take place. Interestingly, during the recent talks in Turkey, the Somaliland government publicly announced via Twitter that they are ready to implement the MOU. It is Ethiopia that appears to be delaying or unwilling to reach an agreement with Somaliland on this matter. The separatists in Hargeisa are eager, even desperate, to offer Ethiopia access to the sea. The issue, however, is that Ethiopia seems either unable or unwilling to grant them what they desire most: international diplomatic recognition.
Instead, Prime Minister Abiy seems to be attempting to negotiate a more advantageous deal with the Somali government, one that would grant Ethiopia rights, or partial rights, over Somaliland’s territorial waters—without offering Somaliland anything in return. The problem, of course, is that the Somali government would never agree to cede any part of its territory to Ethiopia. What the Somali government is doing, as it often does, is exposing Ethiopian aggression towards Somalia to the internatiomal community , and ensuring that Ethiopia is not included in the new military peacekeeping force. A replacement for Ethiopian forces has already been found, and they will be Egyptian. Things are not going well for Ethiopia, nor for our separatist cousins in Somaliland.
Dr Zackovich
Firstly, there's no such thing as "Somaliland’s territorial waters".Instead, Prime Minister Abiy seems to be attempting to negotiate a more advantageous deal with the Somali government, one that would grant Ethiopia rights, or partial rights, over Somaliland’s territorial waters—without offering Somaliland anything in return.
Secondly, Somalia, however it's slightly fragmented, it still remains as a country, not only recognised as a such, but also, it's currently a member of the UN Security Council. Therefore, our sovereignty covers all of our country.
Thirdly, our northwestern region of Somalia, also known as Somaliland, is part and parcel of Somalia.
Fourthly, preserving our territorial integrity is more important than a recognition from a country with regards to a portion of our country.
Finally, sorry to rubbish your thought that we would provide Ethiopia with a coastal land in the north of Somalia provided that Ethiopia would keep its blabbered recognition for this region in its ar'se. We do not exchange our territorial integrity for anything. We fight and spill our blood to preserve our land. We Somalis are fighters and the fuc'king Ethiopians knows us very well.
Re: THE TURKISH-EGYPTIAN BATTLE FOR THE CONTROL OF SOMALIA - BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR ETHIOPIA?
Zack wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 20:06I do not shy away from acknowledging my Ethiopian origins, though I disagree with Ethiopian politics and politicians. Moreover, I do not seek the recognition of Ethiopians to view me as one of their own, as it is an identity I do not wish to associate with. My desire is to distance myself from Ethiopia. Having lived in the West for more years than I have in either Ethiopia or Djibouti, I consider Djibouti to be my true home. However, the land occupied by Ethiopia Shinile holds as much value to us as Djibouti does. For us, there is no distinction between the two.
Dr Zackovich
Somalia has sacrificed a lot, including a beloved uncle of mine - a lieutenant colonel commanding an artillery regiment (RIP), among others in their various ranks and functions to liberate your fuc'king ar'ses, and now telling me that you want to dissociate from Ethiopia, rather than fighting for what we fought for you, which was nothing but for your own well-being, would be gut-wrenching to many Somalis, and to add salt to injury is that Mustafa Dog has become a lapdog for the current clown, despite what we've expected from him.I do not shy away from acknowledging my Ethiopian origins, though I disagree with Ethiopian politics and politicians. Moreover, I do not seek the recognition of Ethiopians to view me as one of their own, as it is an identity I do not wish to associate with. My desire is to distance myself from Ethiopia.
Re: THE TURKISH-EGYPTIAN BATTLE FOR THE CONTROL OF SOMALIA - BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR ETHIOPIA?
What do you mean by you lot fought for us we fought together to free our land there was no we vs us during the hey days of the Somali democratic republic . I don’t understand ur comment here. I don’t want to associate our selves with Ethiopia how is that wrong what do you want us to do, there is at this point. O Somalia that we can rely on or that can help us , we are still resisting .
Dr Zackovich
Dr Zackovich
Re: THE TURKISH-EGYPTIAN BATTLE FOR THE CONTROL OF SOMALIA - BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR ETHIOPIA?
Man these faqash are something else. In reality we Somalilanders planned the whole thing , that's the only reason we joined somalia in 1960. After we couldn't agree haile Selassie to bring hawd under Somaliland..Zack wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 04:56What do you mean by you lot fought for us we fought together to free our land there was no we vs us during the hey days of the Somali democratic republic . I don’t understand ur comment here. I don’t want to associate our selves with Ethiopia how is that wrong what do you want us to do, there is at this point. O Somalia that we can rely on or that can help us , we are still resisting .
Dr Zackovich
We isaaqs and other Somalis from our west did the most hard work. Even our current president fought that war as a Air force navigator. Muuse biixi killed more Ethiopians than any other Living somali.
Afwayne did good job we hundred percent backed the president afwayne. And we lost the war for political reasons. No hard feelings.
Re: THE TURKISH-EGYPTIAN BATTLE FOR THE CONTROL OF SOMALIA - BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR ETHIOPIA?
Zack wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 04:56What do you mean by you lot fought for us we fought together to free our land there was no we vs us during the hey days of the Somali democratic republic . I don’t understand ur comment here. I don’t want to associate our selves with Ethiopia how is that wrong what do you want us to do, there is at this point. O Somalia that we can rely on or that can help us , we are still resisting .
Dr Zackovich
Zack,
You're absolutely right; there wasn't any we and you; we were all one. I would like that we carry on the very same motto, spirit, and vision, rather than a few of you opting to dissociate themselves from our ancestral land occupied by Ethiopia and run away to another area (or country) by clan affiliation, and that others like Mustafa Cagjar opt to dance to the tune of the same evil we've been fighting and work on dissipating even ONLF.
What I would like is that you still feel that your birth place is occupied and fight for your rights in Ethiopia, as you were bon there after all, rather than running away and associating yourself with Djibouti by clan affiliation, even though you've never even lived there.
Rather than keep claiming to be a Djiboutian, why are you shying away from talking to us about what's happening in the fifth kilil, considered an open prison and take this on Ethiopians. Why are not denouncing those puppets, like Mustafa Cagjar, who are being used against their own people!