A weaker central government could work, but only if all Ethiopians are represented by people from their own communities, not by party-appointed cadres, as is currently happening in major cities like Addis Ababa. All residents must have the same rights as any other individual in the area. Individual rights must be respected and not overridden by local laws. Only then will a weaker central government become relevant. As for the claim that "the Oromos won't accept any alternative to the current system in the foreseeable future," they favor this archaic system because it grants them power over people they do not truly represent, turning many communities into second-class citizens in their own country. That will come to an end, whether or not an alternative is accepted.Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 21:26A weaker central government and more power to the federal states is the way forward imo. Fano should rule amara, whomever oromo choose should rule oromia, etc.
I don't see Oromos wanting or accepting any alternative to the current system for the foreseeable future. Regardless of how much you guys and others complain online.
Anything less than Oromos ruling Oromia is unacceptable.
True Oromo federalists don't want to rule others, nor do we accept others ruling us. Opdo, like any other opportunistic group of elites represents their own small groups interests, not the interests of the nation they *claim* to come from. Those who generalize all Oromos based on their hatred for the opdo, in reality, seek to justify their hatred for an entire nation and then they cry when others generalize against their nation.
Keep in mind that, any opposition movement that lacks an Oromo element, is already increasing the likelihood that they'll fail.
Opposition to the previous regimes all had a significant Oromo element to it. Whether it be haile Selassie, the derg (the opposition was mostly within in the form of attempted coups, i.e. demissie bulto, or teferi benti), qeerroo vs tplf, etc.
Only a fool would purposely make an enemy out of the largest nation in ethiopia, whose territory is the geographical and economic backbone of Ethiopia, along with the Amaras.
P.s. odie sounds like another account of wishiye buchila union aka Novel amara aka andertan aka abdeaziz
Re: Fano And The New Amhara Nationalism-Messay Kebede
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Re: Fano And The New Amhara Nationalism-Messay Kebede
TGAA wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 22:03A weaker central government could work, but only if all Ethiopians are represented by people from their own communities, not by party-appointed cadres, as is currently happening in major cities like Addis Ababa. All residents must have the same rights as any other individual in the area. Individual rights must be respected and not overridden by local laws. Only then will a weaker central government become relevant. As for the claim that "the Oromos won't accept any alternative to the current system in the foreseeable future," they favor this archaic system because it grants them power over people they do not truly represent, turning many communities into second-class citizens in their own country. That will come to an end, whether or not an alternative is accepted.Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 21:26A weaker central government and more power to the federal states is the way forward imo. Fano should rule amara, whomever oromo choose should rule oromia, etc.
I don't see Oromos wanting or accepting any alternative to the current system for the foreseeable future. Regardless of how much you guys and others complain online.
Anything less than Oromos ruling Oromia is unacceptable.
True Oromo federalists don't want to rule others, nor do we accept others ruling us. Opdo, like any other opportunistic group of elites represents their own small groups interests, not the interests of the nation they *claim* to come from. Those who generalize all Oromos based on their hatred for the opdo, in reality, seek to justify their hatred for an entire nation and then they cry when others generalize against their nation.
Keep in mind that, any opposition movement that lacks an Oromo element, is already increasing the likelihood that they'll fail.
Opposition to the previous regimes all had a significant Oromo element to it. Whether it be haile Selassie, the derg (the opposition was mostly within in the form of attempted coups, i.e. demissie bulto, or teferi benti), qeerroo vs tplf, etc.
Only a fool would purposely make an enemy out of the largest nation in ethiopia, whose territory is the geographical and economic backbone of Ethiopia, along with the Amaras.
P.s. odie sounds like another account of wishiye buchila union aka Novel amara aka andertan aka abdeaziz
Of course, someone who hates an entire nation will say such things. Oromos have no desire to do that, but we will not accept being ruled in oromia by non Oromos, the same way you guys won't accept oromos ruling gojjam, mekelle, gondar, etc.
The oromo want to and will rule their respective state, full stop.
Majority rule, minority rights. Otherwise, we can do a population exchange and go our separate ways, ending the Ethiopian state.
Re: Fano And The New Amhara Nationalism-Messay Kebede
Amharas, like any other community in Ethiopia, should govern themselves. There is no reason to separate them from their own local governments, which should be represented by locals. It's not rocket science to understand that. Your claim that you want to come into their community and impose someone from the so-called majority to govern them is absurd. Do you realize how unreasonable that sounds?Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 22:20TGAA wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 22:03A weaker central government could work, but only if all Ethiopians are represented by people from their own communities, not by party-appointed cadres, as is currently happening in major cities like Addis Ababa. All residents must have the same rights as any other individual in the area. Individual rights must be respected and not overridden by local laws. Only then will a weaker central government become relevant. As for the claim that "the Oromos won't accept any alternative to the current system in the foreseeable future," they favor this archaic system because it grants them power over people they do not truly represent, turning many communities into second-class citizens in their own country. That will come to an end, whether or not an alternative is accepted.Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 21:26A weaker central government and more power to the federal states is the way forward imo. Fano should rule amara, whomever oromo choose should rule oromia, etc.
I don't see Oromos wanting or accepting any alternative to the current system for the foreseeable future. Regardless of how much you guys and others complain online.
Anything less than Oromos ruling Oromia is unacceptable.
True Oromo federalists don't want to rule others, nor do we accept others ruling us. Opdo, like any other opportunistic group of elites represents their own small groups interests, not the interests of the nation they *claim* to come from. Those who generalize all Oromos based on their hatred for the opdo, in reality, seek to justify their hatred for an entire nation and then they cry when others generalize against their nation.
Keep in mind that, any opposition movement that lacks an Oromo element, is already increasing the likelihood that they'll fail.
Opposition to the previous regimes all had a significant Oromo element to it. Whether it be haile Selassie, the derg (the opposition was mostly within in the form of attempted coups, i.e. demissie bulto, or teferi benti), qeerroo vs tplf, etc.
Only a fool would purposely make an enemy out of the largest nation in ethiopia, whose territory is the geographical and economic backbone of Ethiopia, along with the Amaras.
P.s. odie sounds like another account of wishiye buchila union aka Novel amara aka andertan aka abdeaziz
Of course, someone who hates an entire nation will say such things. Oromos have no desire to do that, but we will not accept being ruled in oromia by non Oromos, the same way you guys won't accept oromos ruling gojjam, mekelle, gondar, etc.
The oromo want to and will rule their respective state, full stop.
Majority rule, minority rights. Otherwise, we can do a population exchange and go our separate ways, ending the Ethiopian state.
Re: Fano And The New Amhara Nationalism-Messay Kebede
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 21:26A weaker central government and more power to the federal states is the way forward imo. Fano should rule amara, whomever oromo choose should rule oromia, etc.
I don't see Oromos wanting or accepting any alternative to the current system for the foreseeable future. Regardless of how much you guys and others complain online.
Anything less than Oromos ruling Oromia is unacceptable.
True Oromo federalists don't want to rule others, nor do we accept others ruling us. Opdo, like any other opportunistic group of elites represents their own small groups interests, not the interests of the nation they *claim* to come from. Those who generalize all Oromos based on their hatred for the opdo, in reality, seek to justify their hatred for an entire nation and then they cry when others generalize against their nation.
Keep in mind that, any opposition movement that lacks an Oromo element, is already increasing the likelihood that they'll fail.
Opposition to the previous regimes all had a significant Oromo element to it. Whether it be haile Selassie, the derg (the opposition was mostly within in the form of attempted coups, i.e. demissie bulto, or teferi benti), qeerroo vs tplf, etc.
Only a fool would purposely make an enemy out of the largest nation in ethiopia, whose territory is the geographical and economic backbone of Ethiopia, along with the Amaras.
P.s. odie sounds like another account of wishiye buchila union aka Novel amara aka andertan aka abdeaziz
We will see to that!
Obviously, the Ethiopia of today won't look like the Ethiopia of tomorrow, this or that way.
The land Oromo robbed from all Ethiopians cannot be changed to a ghetto where non-Oromos cannot access and where non-Oromos have no right to hold office and practice their culture. That is for sure something that could spark a future war though!
The tradition is once the center of a country is occupied by force; the peripheries are a piece of cake. The question is who is going to occupy the center sooner or later. We all or someone similar to OPDO/PP from another Ethnic might do that. There always will be foreign hands too. Don't take cyber warriors seriously. The matter in Africa lies in the hands of those who hold the gun in the bush or city: lol:

Union is my fellow country man for bad or good. Don't be surprised if you see similarities between us because we drank same water together many times in that country: lol: