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[TGAA]

Plato believed that while everyone can hold a political opinion (doxa), few possess genuine political knowledge (episteme). However, in an era where these distinctions are often unrecognized, every talking head’s opinion is assumed to be knowledge, and true knowledge is relegated to mere opinion. Nevertheless, politics is a science, and those who possess both knowledge and political power understand how to achieve the best outcomes for the people they lead.

The political vortex from which we Ethiopians have failed to escape for decades is the result of emotionally charged rationalization and a lack of clarity about the end we are seeking. Take Eskender's case, for instance. In the four regions of Amhara, Fano groups are organized independently, and no one can force them to accept a leadership they don’t want. Yet all the talk is centered on Eskender. He must have gained wide acceptance within Fano circles—that’s the only explanation for such strong reactions. It’s clear he has the ability to articulate the Amhara cause superbly, without unnecessary rhetoric.Eskinder is one of the most compelling voices for the Amhara cause, articulating its challenges and aspirations with clarity and conviction. The undeniable fact is that his ability to present the issues facing the Amhara people in a nuanced and persuasive manner has earned him widespread respect and recognition. Why this knee-jerk reaction then ? We might need to dig deep to know why.

[Union]

Exactly

That is why they hate him. The ferenjis see that he is not only leading Amaras but also Ethiopians so they hate him

So i see why they hate him!

And comparing him with agew zemenech is a joke. (አገው ዘጠኜ ቆርጦ እስሬ ይፈጠፍጠዋል ነው ምናምን) ነው ያለው አቤት አቤት የስፊው ኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ቪዥንን ስንቴ ሊቆራርጠው ነው ታዲያ። አገዋ እናቴ እንዳለችኝ ከሆነ ኩሽ ነኝ ማንም መጥቶ ይከራከረኝ ምናምን እያለ ከሚቀባጥር ዘረኛጋ እና የበታችነት ስሜት ከሚያሰቃይው ግለሰብ ጋር እስክንድርን ማወዳደር ይዘገንናል

Where is agew misraq

[Right]

TGAA,
You are mesmerized by brother Eskinder Nega. While you do so, the resistance against fascist Abiye Ahmed is going ahead in full force in all directions in Fano land. As far as Fano is concerned, they don’t have time for individuals and those who worship individuals over the cause. They know that kind of enemy strategy and individual ambition break the back of Kinijit in 2006.

I believe you heard about the word grassroots. Fano was born out of necessity to stop genocide. It has to save the Amhara people before anything else. Nobody can take that away.

Do not try to jump over the fence and steal what is not yours. Because you can’t.

Instead try to start your own by including the 70 million non Amharas to help you save Ethiopia. Eskinder is capable of that.

[Noble Amhara]

The continuation of worshiping one man as a savior is cultish and demonic as you see TPLF EPLF and PP are reduced to dictatorial parties by this Behavior

At the end worshipping one man will do no good. By the way Zemene Kassie did not use a dollar to gain support he left every fano group alone. It was eskinder who went across Amhara region trying to install his own junta

Now we can have a new election let's see who will win!

TGAA,
You are mesmerized by brother Eskinder Nega. While you do so, the resistance against fascist Abiye Ahmed is going ahead in full force in all directions in Fano land. As far as Fano is concerned, they don’t have time for individuals and those who worship individuals over the cause. They know that kind of enemy strategy and individual ambition break the back of Kinijit in 2006.

I believe you heard about the word grassroots. Fano was born out of necessity to stop genocide. It has to save the Amhara people before anything else. Nobody can take that away.

Do not try to jump over the fence and steal what is not yours. Because you can’t.

Instead try to start your own by including the 70 million non Amharas to help you save Ethiopia. Eskinder is capable of that.

[Right]

NA,
You have also to be careful not to grandiose Zemene Kase for he is not. He is a good commander and organizer. Period.
Fano is a movement born out of necessity and built by the blood of the Amhara people.
As of now they are doing fantastic. That is true for all regional Fanos. With the exception of Shoa. Shoa Fanos are regrouping, so it is a matter of time but they will get it right. This struggle is a grinder and it will take several years to succeed.

As mentioned several times Fanos or supporters are not against brother Eskinder. But Eskinder shouldn’t have gone to Ermias Legesse and Habtamu Ayalew to influence things in his own favour. That was a huge mistake.

Eskinder is capable of starting a new party to realize his dream of saving Ethiopia. And he can negotiate all he wants with Abiye Ahmed Ali. And I wish him good luck.

[Noble Amhara]

NA,
You have also to be careful not to grandiose Zemene Kase for he is not. He is a good commander and organizer. Period.
Fano is a movement born out of necessity and built by the blood of the Amhara people.
As of now they are doing fantastic. That is true for all regional Fanos. With the exception of Shoa. Shoa Fanos are regrouping, so it is a matter of time but they will get it right. This struggle is a grinder and it will take several years to succeed.

As mentioned several times Fanos or supporters are not against brother Eskinder. But Eskinder shouldn’t have gone to Ermias Legesse and Habtamu Ayalew to influence things in his own favour. That was a huge mistake.

Eskinder is capable of starting a new party to realize his dream of saving Ethiopia. And he can negotiate all he wants with Abiye Ahmed Ali. And I wish him good luck.

as I said 2 years ago that Fano must become a political party I even stated zemene kassie should do it.

viewtopic.php?t=298629

[Union]

Nobel አገው

You said you are an enemy of Amara people

What about this

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NA,
You have also to be careful not to grandiose Zemene Kase for he is not. He is a good commander and organizer. Period.
Fano is a movement born out of necessity and built by the blood of the Amhara people.
As of now they are doing fantastic. That is true for all regional Fanos. With the exception of Shoa. Shoa Fanos are regrouping, so it is a matter of time but they will get it right. This struggle is a grinder and it will take several years to succeed.

As mentioned several times Fanos or supporters are not against brother Eskinder. But Eskinder shouldn’t have gone to Ermias Legesse and Habtamu Ayalew to influence things in his own favour. That was a huge mistake.

Eskinder is capable of starting a new party to realize his dream of saving Ethiopia. And he can negotiate all he wants with Abiye Ahmed Ali. And I wish him good luck.

as I said 2 years ago that Fano must become a political party I even stated zemene kassie should do it.

viewtopic.php?t=298629

[Misraq]

Eskinder created 6 political organizations in the past. All failed. He is on the 7th one. I wish him goodluck. Albert Einstien once said

'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. '

And the Amhara people's complex issue cannot and will not be resolved by an insane person who carries a failure tag on his forehead. Tilahun Lagaw may disagree on this but it is a fact

[Noble Amhara]

Eskinder created 6 political organizations in the past. All failed. He is on the 7th one. I wish him goodluck. Albert Einstien once said

'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. '

And the Amhara people's complex issue cannot and will not be resolved by an insane person who carries a failure tag on his forehead. Tilahun Lagaw may disagree on this but it is a fact

and to compensate for his continual political losses he tried to hijack and rule Amhara through the sacrifice of Fanos.

Also why are they claiming the irrelevant Masresha as head of Gojam Fano? They also seem to only favor Old man Muhabaw Fantahun and seclude Mere Wedajo.even though Mere and Muhabaw are both in the same woreda working together united as Wollo Ez........ as well the Gonder commander who sacrificed his 2 sons in this war..and the other gondere with the red hat... This is all for Eskinders goal of dictatorship over Amhara!

[Misraq]

Most of the FANO fighters and commanders think the big picture only, hence you see them fighting together despite their leaders diffences. Eskinders repeated attempt to open his Gojam branch is very toxic and immature. He and his supporters need to start respecting the existing Fano structure and leadership first. Eskinder and his supporters are only into power and how they can make their way to the top leadership. This is shameful

[Noble Amhara]

Most of the FANO fighters and commanders think the big picture only, hence you see them fighting together despite their leaders diffences. Eskinders repeated attempt to open his Gojam branch is very toxic and immature. He and his supporters need to start respecting the existing Fano structure and leadership first. Eskinder and his supporters are only into power and how they can make their way to the top leadership. This is shameful

Gonder Fano is split into 2 branches with the western branch led by Habte Wolde and the eastern branch by Bayew Kenaw (South and north Gondar are aligned in political views as well) but due to the lack of Eskinder presence the Gondar Fano commands were able to conduct joint operations and work in unison


and look how Eskinder branch are trying their best to divide Warkaw Mere Wedajo from Colonel Muhabaw Fantahun. They have formed a united Amhara Wollo Command (Wollo Ez) but Eskinder still thinks Wollo Fano Amhara has not united as you know he's hiding in Merhabete and his followers are in the west so they are clueless about Wollo Ez.

[TGAA]

I'm eager to understand the specific reasons why Eskender is considered unqualified or dangerous, either to Fano or to the Amhara struggle for survival. After hearing the same arguments repeated ad nauseam in this forum and amid the cacophony of noise on YouTube, I’m left scratching my head. Point to one instance where Eskender deliberately acted against the interests of the Amhara people or Ethiopians in general, and I’ll drop him like a hot potato. But I’m fairly certain there’s none.

The following accusations are so absurd they hardly warrant discussion. First, some claim that Eskender is an Ethiopianist, just like Berhanu, and therefore a danger to Amharas. Yes, he is an Ethiopianist—just like most Amharas—but he is no Berhanu. Being an Ethiopianist in itself doesn’t disqualify him from fighting and dying for the just cause of the Amhara people; in fact, it’s a huge plus.

Another accusation is that Eskender has founded more than seven political organizations, and all have failed, suggesting that if he leads Fano, Fano will fail as well. Political organizations are tools to address the realities of their time. If an organization becomes neutralized by external circumstances and can no longer serve its purpose, it’s only natural to form another that is better suited to the current reality. This is precisely what Eskender has done.

To understand Eskender’s political success, one must carefully examine the context of each era and the crises his actions helped avert. I would always prefer a man with experience and resilience over a novice. Eskender is politically mature and equipped to address the challenges that have plagued the Amhara people for over 33 years. The Fano leaders who chose him as their leader recognize this. It seems, however, that the so-called enclave kingmakers find that too difficult to accept.

The reality we all need to understand is that, in the end, we must build a country where everyone is treated equally and justly. We also need to realize that after securing the fundamental rights of all Ethiopians, we will need to compromise and find common ground, learning how to be generous to one another. From where we stand now, it may seem impossible, but with wisdom and a generous heart, there is nothing we Ethiopians cannot achieve.

[Right]

To understand Eskender’s political success, one must carefully examine the context of each era and the crises his actions helped avert. I would always prefer a man with experience and resilience over a novice. Eskender is politically mature and equipped to address the challenges that have plagued the Amhara people for over 33 years. The Fano leaders who chose him as their leader recognize this. It seems, however, that the so-called enclave kingmakers find that too difficult to accept.

You seems to be fascinated by brother Eskinder Nega. For you, it is all about Eskio. But for the Amhara people the cause is bigger than one individual who is trying to jump over the fence and snatch what is not his. Just like that with a straight face. Once again, Fano is a movement born out of necessity by the blood of the Amhara people. Please let them finish what they have started.
Oh we know Eskinder is not exactly like Dr Birr Nega. By the way, Andargachew Tsigie and Neamin Zeleke also attempted to be in charge of Fano.
A weird world.

The reality we all need to understand is that, in the end, we must build a country where everyone is treated equally and justly. We also need to realize that after securing the fundamental rights of all Ethiopians, we will need to compromise and find common

I think you should tell that the 70 million non-Amharas. Building Ethiopia was all the Amharas did through out their existence.
Today they are fighting for their existence. The Amhara children are murdered in broad daylight and their women are raped in front of a camera. Yet you are worried about saving the 70 million non Amharas and building Ethiopia. And you want to do it at the back of Fano.

Yes, saving Ethiopia is an excellent idea. Brother Eskinder is capable of forming a national party for his noble agenda of building Ethiopia. Let Fano defend the Amhara people from genocide.

[TGAA]

To understand Eskender’s political success, one must carefully examine the context of each era and the crises his actions helped avert. I would always prefer a man with experience and resilience over a novice. Eskender is politically mature and equipped to address the challenges that have plagued the Amhara people for over 33 years. The Fano leaders who chose him as their leader recognize this. It seems, however, that the so-called enclave kingmakers find that too difficult to accept.

You seems to be fascinated by brother Eskinder Nega. For you, it is all about Eskio. But for the Amhara people the cause is bigger than one individual who is trying to jump over the fence and snatch what is not his. Just like that with a straight face. Once again, Fano is a movement born out of necessity by the blood of the Amhara people. Please let them finish what they have started.
Oh we know Eskinder is not exactly like Dr Birr Nega. By the way, Andargachew Tsigie and Neamin Zeleke also attempted to be in charge of Fano.
A weird world.

The reality we all need to understand is that, in the end, we must build a country where everyone is treated equally and justly. We also need to realize that after securing the fundamental rights of all Ethiopians, we will need to compromise and find common

I think you should tell that the 70 million non-Amharas. Building Ethiopia was all the Amharas did through out their existence.
Today they are fighting for their existence. The Amhara children are murdered in broad daylight and their women are raped in front of a camera. Yet you are worried about saving the 70 million non Amharas and building Ethiopia. And you want to do it at the back of Fano.

Yes, saving Ethiopia is an excellent idea. Brother Eskinder is capable of forming a national party for his noble agenda of building Ethiopia. Let Fano defend the Amhara people from genocide.

With all due respect, Mr. Right, building Ethiopia and defending the Amhara people from genocide are not mutually exclusive concepts. In fact, I don’t see how one can be achieved without the other. When we talk about Amharas, we are not just referring to those living in the Amhara region, but to all Amharas across Ethiopia. Most of the atrocities committed against Amharas have taken place in other parts of the country, solely because of their identity.

The first priority for Fano, all Amharas, and all Ethiopians should be securing the well-being of Amharas, wherever they may be. On this, there can be no compromise. But once that is ensured, the next question is: how do we guarantee that security for generations to come? This is where the solution becomes multidimensional.

First, secure the survival and well-being of Amharas. Then, bring to justice those who have perpetrated ethnic cleansing against them, ensuring they are held accountable for their crimes. After that, we must work toward building an Ethiopia where all people are treated equally and where justice reigns supreme.

Unless the Amhara struggle is aimed at complete secession from Ethiopia—which I find impossible to contemplate—the two goals of defending Amharas and building a just Ethiopia are inseparable.

[Right]

TGAA,
You and me are on the same page except two things:
1. You are obsessed with brother Eskinder Nega leading Fano while I am adamantly against individualizing the movement. Remember FANO’s birth has nothing to do with Eskinder Nega, he tried to join after they stand up on their feet. And not in the battlefield. As we have seen it before, worshipping individuals is a recipe for disaster.
I strongly advise brother Eskinder to leave Fano alone in good terms and start his own national organization. He shouldn’t force it when the answer is no. It is not the end of the world. After all just recently he had his own, Balderas, when Fano was battling PP.

2. You are trying to put the cart before the horse. The priority for the Amharas are saving themselves from extinction. When a sitting government disbanded Amhara Liyu and disarm Fano while building a mechanized Oromo Liyu and rebuild TDF, you know something catastrophic is to happen. All this in the middle of nonstop Amhara killings.
You mentioned “Amhara Separate state”? Really, you guys are living in a different world.

Look, all I am saying is that please leave individualizing. Leave Fano alone to finish what they started. Brother Eskinder and all of ya are well capable of starting a national organization to realize your dreams. I believe Fano will be an ally.
Cheers.

[TGAA]

TGAA,
You and me are on the same page except two things:
1. You are obsessed with brother Eskinder Nega leading Fano while I am adamantly against individualizing the movement. Remember FANO’s birth has nothing to do with Eskinder Nega, he tried to join after they stand up on their feet. And not in the battlefield. As we have seen it before, worshipping individuals is a recipe for disaster.
I strongly advise brother Eskinder to leave Fano alone in good terms and start his own national organization. He shouldn’t force it when the answer is no. It is not the end of the world. After all just recently he had his own, Balderas, when Fano was battling PP.

2. You are trying to put the cart before the horse. The priority for the Amharas are saving themselves from extinction. When a sitting government disbanded Amhara Liyu and disarm Fano while building a mechanized Oromo Liyu and rebuild TDF, you know something catastrophic is to happen. All this in the middle of nonstop Amhara killings.
You mentioned “Amhara Separate state”? Really, you guys are living in a different world.

Look, all I am saying is that please leave individualizing. Leave Fano alone to finish what they started. Brother Eskinder and all of ya are well capable of starting a national organization to realize your dreams. I believe Fano will be an ally.
Cheers.

Let me conclude by saying that the Amhara struggle for survival and human dignity is much bigger than Eskender or any particular Fano leader. I am not obsessed with Eskender being the leader of Fano either; that decision should be left to Fano. What I dislike is the attempt to smear his name for no apparent reason, except that he may view the Amhara issue within the broader context of Ethiopian politics, as any other Fano leader would inevitably do. He is a person of integrity who has paid dearly. Let the Fano on the ground make their decision without an outsider's campaign to influence them. Then, join hands and help Fano's just cause triumph.

[Right]

Bingo.
Cheers Brother.