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Ascari eritreans were first colonized on 1557 by Turkey

South Africa partied were first in South Africa on 1657



Facts!!

[TesfaNews]

Ascari eritreans were first colonized on 1557 by Turkey

South Africa partied were first in South Africa on 1657



Facts!!

if that was true Eritrea would be muslim

So no.... your wrong and a lair... Ottoman only colonized Eritreas Coastline and Nakfa-Afabet area.

[Union]

No, body, you don't know your own history, you stupid ascari

We Ethiopians fought the Turks 25 kilometers south of Asmera

Ascari eritreans were first colonized on 1557 by Turkey

South Africa partied were first in South Africa on 1657



Facts!!

if that was true Eritrea would be muslim

So no.... your wrong and a lair... Ottoman only colonized Eritreas Coastline and Nakfa-Afabet area.

[Union]

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/atlas/tigrinya/er ... ory_1.html


1557 The Ottoman empire made Eritrea one of its colonies and colonised it for 300 years.


1865 The Egyptian Khedevites took over Eritrea from the Turks


1882-1941 Italians colonised Eritrea


1941-1952 The British rule over Eritrea


1952-1962 The UN forced Eritrea federation with Ethiopia by the Resolution 390-A(V)

[TesfaNews]

Amazing history

The Ottomans invaded the Kingdom of Medri Bahri, now modern-day Eritrea, in 1557 with a force of perhaps 1400-1500 under Özdemir Pasha. First, they captured Massawa, Hirgigo and Beylul then moved inland and captured the regional capital of Debarwa from the Abyssinian Kingdom, he built masjids, a large mosque, and "established a fort [...] with 'a long wall and very high tower... filled with vases of gold and silver, precious stones", and other valuables that were obtained by looting, extractions on trade, and the imposition of a poll tax on the local population.[11][12] Ozdemir Pasha had also captured the northern and north-west parts of Ethiopia.[11][13] A fort was also constructed at Hergigo; a planned fort at Massawa had to be abandoned due to a lack of suitable building materials.[14] Debarwa was then given to the local noble Ga'éwah, the sister of Ahmed Gragn's mother-in-law. According to Cengiz Orhonlu, Debarwa was intended to be the "base of penetration of [...] Ethiopia", but had to be abandoned for several reasons.[15] Most important were that the invading force had run out of provisions, and the water cisterns that they had dug had dried up. Lastly, the local population, who "were beginning to have access to fire-arms" put up fierce resistance.[15] As a result, the Ottoman forces abandoned the fort and retreated to Massawa, but was attacked and defeated by the local peasants who "captured all their goods".[15]

The Ottomans at this point made a change in tactics, opting to pit Ethiopian rulers against each other in order to achieve their conquest, rather than invading unilaterally. They had employed this same tactic earlier in the Balkans: absorbing local entities through local rulers due to a shortage of manpower (here because of its peripheral nature and problems with the Safavids and in the Mediterranean) rather than direct conquest.[6] The Bahr negash Yeshaq had bad relations with Emperor Menas, who had just assumed the throne, so in 1561 he revolted against Menas, but the following year he was defeated in battle. Yeshaq then fled to the Ottomans and promised to cede them Debarwa, Massawa, Arqiqo, and all the land in between in return for their help. In 1562 Osman Pasha was defeated by Menas in Enderta in the Tigray region.[16] Yeshaq and the Emperor later made peace, and the Ottomans withdrew from Debarwa in 1572, which Yeshaq quickly occupied, but he returned it to the Ottomans as a result of the earlier agreement.[15]

Sarsa Dengel, Menas' successor as Emperor, was angered by this and campaigned against Yeshaq in 1576, defeating an alliance of the Ottomans, the Bahr negash, and the Emir of Harar in 1579, killing their leaders. The victorious Emperor then advanced on Debarwa whereupon the Turkish garrison surrendered with all its firearms. Sarsa Dengel then seized the vast riches stored by the Turks in Debarwa and ordered the destruction of the mosque and the fort that was erected during the Ottoman occupation.[17][18] According to Ottoman sources, the Ethiopians then took Arqiqo and managed to destroy Massawa's fort as well as kill 40 of its 100 defenders, though it failed to take the city.[14] As a result, 100 musketeers and 100 cavalrymen were sent to Massawa from Egypt.[19] Given Debarwa's importance as a staging point for the conquest of the rest of Ethiopia, further Ottoman advances on the city were inevitable. Massawa was reinforced by 300 musketeers, 100 cavalry, 10 canonneers, 10 large guns, and 5 builders to repair the fort, all from Egypt.[19] Again employing their earlier tactic of fighting with local leaders, the Ottomans appointed a man named Wad Ezum as Bahr nagash, and in 1588 moved inland where they were defeated by a local lord.[20] Emperor Sarsa Dengel was alarmed by the Ottoman expansion, and replied with an attack on Hergigo in 1589 which failed to capture the fort.[19]

No, body, you don't know your own history, you stupid ascari

We Ethiopians fought the Turks 25 kilometers south of Asmera

Ascari eritreans were first colonized on 1557 by Turkey

South Africa partied were first in South Africa on 1657



Facts!!

if that was true Eritrea would be muslim

So no.... your wrong and a lair... Ottoman only colonized Eritreas Coastline and Nakfa-Afabet area.

[Agazi General]

WAWWWW MY AGAZIAN AGAME AGENT BRAZER NOBLE AMHARU IS ARGUING WITH HIMSELF ABOUT ZE MEREB MILLASH HISTORY

[Union]

You answered your own stupid question

Yes, Turkey took over the whole Eritrea

Amazing history

The Ottomans invaded the Kingdom of Medri Bahri, now modern-day Eritrea, in 1557 with a force of perhaps 1400-1500 under Özdemir Pasha. First, they captured Massawa, Hirgigo and Beylul then moved inland and captured the regional capital of Debarwa from the Abyssinian Kingdom, he built masjids, a large mosque, and "established a fort [...] with 'a long wall and very high tower... filled with vases of gold and silver, precious stones", and other valuables that were obtained by looting, extractions on trade, and the imposition of a poll tax on the local population.[11][12] Ozdemir Pasha had also captured the northern and north-west parts of Ethiopia.[11][13] A fort was also constructed at Hergigo; a planned fort at Massawa had to be abandoned due to a lack of suitable building materials.[14] Debarwa was then given to the local noble Ga'éwah, the sister of Ahmed Gragn's mother-in-law. According to Cengiz Orhonlu, Debarwa was intended to be the "base of penetration of [...] Ethiopia", but had to be abandoned for several reasons.[15] Most important were that the invading force had run out of provisions, and the water cisterns that they had dug had dried up. Lastly, the local population, who "were beginning to have access to fire-arms" put up fierce resistance.[15] As a result, the Ottoman forces abandoned the fort and retreated to Massawa, but was attacked and defeated by the local peasants who "captured all their goods".[15]

The Ottomans at this point made a change in tactics, opting to pit Ethiopian rulers against each other in order to achieve their conquest, rather than invading unilaterally. They had employed this same tactic earlier in the Balkans: absorbing local entities through local rulers due to a shortage of manpower (here because of its peripheral nature and problems with the Safavids and in the Mediterranean) rather than direct conquest.[6] The Bahr negash Yeshaq had bad relations with Emperor Menas, who had just assumed the throne, so in 1561 he revolted against Menas, but the following year he was defeated in battle. Yeshaq then fled to the Ottomans and promised to cede them Debarwa, Massawa, Arqiqo, and all the land in between in return for their help. In 1562 Osman Pasha was defeated by Menas in Enderta in the Tigray region.[16] Yeshaq and the Emperor later made peace, and the Ottomans withdrew from Debarwa in 1572, which Yeshaq quickly occupied, but he returned it to the Ottomans as a result of the earlier agreement.[15]

Sarsa Dengel, Menas' successor as Emperor, was angered by this and campaigned against Yeshaq in 1576, defeating an alliance of the Ottomans, the Bahr negash, and the Emir of Harar in 1579, killing their leaders. The victorious Emperor then advanced on Debarwa whereupon the Turkish garrison surrendered with all its firearms. Sarsa Dengel then seized the vast riches stored by the Turks in Debarwa and ordered the destruction of the mosque and the fort that was erected during the Ottoman occupation.[17][18] According to Ottoman sources, the Ethiopians then took Arqiqo and managed to destroy Massawa's fort as well as kill 40 of its 100 defenders, though it failed to take the city.[14] As a result, 100 musketeers and 100 cavalrymen were sent to Massawa from Egypt.[19] Given Debarwa's importance as a staging point for the conquest of the rest of Ethiopia, further Ottoman advances on the city were inevitable. Massawa was reinforced by 300 musketeers, 100 cavalry, 10 canonneers, 10 large guns, and 5 builders to repair the fort, all from Egypt.[19] Again employing their earlier tactic of fighting with local leaders, the Ottomans appointed a man named Wad Ezum as Bahr nagash, and in 1588 moved inland where they were defeated by a local lord.[20] Emperor Sarsa Dengel was alarmed by the Ottoman expansion, and replied with an attack on Hergigo in 1589 which failed to capture the fort.[19]

No, body, you don't know your own history, you stupid ascari

We Ethiopians fought the Turks 25 kilometers south of Asmera

Ascari eritreans were first colonized on 1557 by Turkey

South Africa partied were first in South Africa on 1657



Facts!!

if that was true Eritrea would be muslim

So no.... your wrong and a lair... Ottoman only colonized Eritreas Coastline and Nakfa-Afabet area.

[Union]

they captured Massawa, Hirgigo and Beylul then moved inland and captured the regional capital of Debarwa

Debarwa is 25km south of Asmera

Coward ascari, why did you say Turkey only colonized Mitswa

[Union]

Where did you go, you stu'pid coward ascari. You lost your own argument as alaways.

You have been slaves for 600 years but you tried to blame Minilk and Haile Selassie who was born after all you ሉጢ ascari men were changed to female already.

You were already ሉጢ ባሪያs over 400 years before Minilk was even born

[Zack]

Ascari eritreans were first colonized on 1557 by Turkey

South Africa partied were first in South Africa on 1657



Facts!!

First of all there was no Turkey in 1557 so how can Eritrea be conquered by a non existent country
there was the ottoman empire the ottman empire conquered egypt the balkan area and they also captured Greece up to viena , there is no shame to be conquered by the most super power of the region at that time. U should actually thank the Eritreans cause with out them there wouldnt be any Christianity in the Horn of Africa , it was their efforts that stopped our Imam from taking over the entire east Africa


Dr Zackovich

[Fed_Up]

This is a Typical Adghi Ethiopian question. I need to quit this dumbs’ forum before I become one of these adghi.

[Zack]

To suggest that one should regard themselves as inferior due to the historical conquests of another is utterly unfounded. It is akin to asserting that the proud Germanic peoples of Germania ought to feel diminished in stature because the Roman Empire once subjugated parts of their territory. Such a notion is absurd. Similarly, the fact that the Ottoman Turks once dominated the holy lands of Arabia mecca and medina and the Hejaz does not imply any sort of inferiority of the Arabs to the Turks. Furthermore, one must recognize that the nature of historical empires differs significantly from the modern colonialism of the nineteenth century. The Dutch settlers, for instance, operated under a vastly different paradigm than that of the Ottoman or Roman Empires.


Dr Zackovich

[Union]

Stupid inferior ascari eritrean Zack,

You keep forgetting your as's is black just like the rest of the bantus of Africa ወቸው ጉድ

Stop comparing yourself with the white people that have colonized you and made you an organ donor shi'thole after they extracted all your raw materials. You ascaris would have been number one gold and silicone exporter today and be rich like the arabs but they took it all. They fcked all your women and made them hate you ሉጢ men. You still could not manage to contain your women.

The list of problem you are going through today because of what Turky did to you is countless. So you trying to compare yourself with your colonizers types, Germany, is just sad and shows how reality is along path away from you. Which is your number one problem now that is extending your miserable situation you are in.

South Africas as well still have not recovered from the slavery. Fact!

The world knows about impacts of 400 years of slavery south Africans went through and they are helping to heal each south African.

But you ascaris are dying silently. No one understand you are sycological dameged due the 600 years of non stop slavery.

For example its difficult for you ascaris to find peace with others particularly your own neighbours and freinds, or even your own family members.

You are always angry

You are always bitter and restless, cant never find peace, these are a few examples of the cascading effects of extreme long term slavery. 600 years!!

To suggest that one should regard themselves as inferior due to the historical conquests of another is utterly unfounded. It is akin to asserting that the proud Germanic peoples of Germania ought to feel diminished in stature because the Roman Empire once subjugated parts of their territory. Such a notion is absurd. Similarly, the fact that the Ottoman Turks once dominated the holy lands of Arabia mecca and medina and the Hejaz does not imply any sort of inferiority of the Arabs to the Turks. Furthermore, one must recognize that the nature of historical empires differs significantly from the modern colonialism of the nineteenth century. The Dutch settlers, for instance, operated under a vastly different paradigm than that of the Ottoman or Roman Empires.


Dr Zackovich

[Zack]

Stupid inferior ascari eritrean Zack,

You keep forgetting your as's is black just like the rest of the bantus of Africa ወቸው ጉድ

Stop comparing yourself with the white people that have colonized you and made you an organ donor shi'thole after they extracted all your raw materials. You ascaris would have been number one gold and silicone exporter today and be rich like the arabs but they took it all. They fcked all your women and made them hate you ሉጢ men. You still could not manage to contain your women.

The list of problem you are going through today because of what Turky did to you is countless. So you trying to compare yourself with your colonizers types, Germany, is just sad and shows how reality is along path away from you. Which is your number one problem now that is extending your miserable situation you are in.

South Africas as well still have not recovered from the slavery. Fact!

The world knows about impacts of 400 years of slavery south Africans went through and they are helping to heal each south African.

But you ascaris are dying silently. No one understand you are sycological dameged due the 600 years of non stop slavery.

For example its difficult for you ascaris to find peace with others particularly your own neighbours and freinds, or even your own family members.

You are always angry

You are always bitter and restless, cant never find peace, these are a few examples of the cascading effects of extreme long term slavery. 600 years!!

To suggest that one should regard themselves as inferior due to the historical conquests of another is utterly unfounded. It is akin to asserting that the proud Germanic peoples of Germania ought to feel diminished in stature because the Roman Empire once subjugated parts of their territory. Such a notion is absurd. Similarly, the fact that the Ottoman Turks once dominated the holy lands of Arabia mecca and medina and the Hejaz does not imply any sort of inferiority of the Arabs to the Turks. Furthermore, one must recognize that the nature of historical empires differs significantly from the modern colonialism of the nineteenth century. The Dutch settlers, for instance, operated under a vastly different paradigm than that of the Ottoman or Roman Empires.


Dr Zackovich

Well i could present you the map of the Ottoman Empire during the 15th century, a period marking the zenith of its power. This cartographic representation highlights the significant territories conquered and governed by the Ottomans during that time . Notably, it reveals their dominion extending only to the coastal regions of Eritrea , conspicuously omitting its interior. This absence reflects the Ottoman Empire's lack of interest in subjugating the inland African populace of Eritrea, as their primary focus lay in securing trade posts and strategically vital locations.

Comparatively, the colonization of South Africa by the Dutch presents a starkly different narrative, culminating in the system of apartheid. Here, one observes the establishment of a substantial community of Dutch settlers who forged a distinct Boer identity within South African society. This community, intermingled with European conflicts fought the brits there, fought battles on South African soil, creating a deeply entrenched colonial structure. In contrast, the methodology of the Dutch in establishing their Cape Colony stands in stark relief to the relatively transient nature of the Ottoman presence in Eritrea, which was limited to outposts along the Massawa coast.

Had the Ottomans embarked on a comparable venture to that of the Dutch, one might envision a scenario where hundreds of thousands of Balkan Turks were resettled in Eritrea, subsequently identifying as "Horners." Such an importation would parallel the Boer experience but is absent from the historical record of Ottoman engagement.

Furthermore it is worth addressing to say the least,, the notion that Eritrea lacks the right to invoke comparisons with European legacies such as the proud people of Germania . Eritrea’s rich tapestry of civilization is woven from threads of historic significance, epitomized by its ancient churches and the Axumite civilization—achievements that stand as testament to its cultural heritage. Indeed, these accomplishments emerged during epochs when much of Europe languished in barbarism and darkness. Thus, Eritrea possesses a legitimate claim to its own identity and historical narrative, one deserving of recognition and respect in the broader discourse of civilization indeed and you my Barbaric Amhara neighbour keeps having trouble
with that indeed.


Dr Zackovich

[Eripoblikan]

So says Wolleye Belaynesh Mohammed Gebregziabher Ahmed Gebremariam Mahmoud Woldemichael Ali

You have no principles. You keep on changing your religion every 5 years

[Union]

You stup'id ascari eritrean Zack

You never make fckn sense. You keep writing your wishes.

Turky did not just sat in the costal area, they colonized over 90% of ascari land, except the boarder towns near Ethiopia in fear of attack from Ethiopian warriors, just like they conolized the entire Somalia they colonized you too . We Ethiopians fought them 25km south of Asmera. They were in control of Asmera and its areas, searching for your mama and you ሉጢ ሽንታም ascari men who never fought them back. Cowards. You wanna talk your crap at mighty Minilk for your ሽንታም ness even though you know Minilk was born over 400 years after you were slaves already

And no colonial power is interested in fractional exploitation, that is stuipd for you to think. They busy looking for minirals, metals particularly gold which your shi'thole used to have a lot.

And remember, both Turky and egypt built buildings in Asmera

The Egyptian palace is in asmera is beautiful. Egypt colonized you for 100 long years, buddy.

Stupid inferior ascari eritrean Zack,

You keep forgetting your as's is black just like the rest of the bantus of Africa ወቸው ጉድ

Stop comparing yourself with the white people that have colonized you and made you an organ donor shi'thole after they extracted all your raw materials. You ascaris would have been number one gold and silicone exporter today and be rich like the arabs but they took it all. They fcked all your women and made them hate you ሉጢ men. You still could not manage to contain your women.

The list of problem you are going through today because of what Turky did to you is countless. So you trying to compare yourself with your colonizers types, Germany, is just sad and shows how reality is along path away from you. Which is your number one problem now that is extending your miserable situation you are in.

South Africas as well still have not recovered from the slavery. Fact!

The world knows about impacts of 400 years of slavery south Africans went through and they are helping to heal each south African.

But you ascaris are dying silently. No one understand you are sycological dameged due the 600 years of non stop slavery.

For example its difficult for you ascaris to find peace with others particularly your own neighbours and freinds, or even your own family members.

You are always angry

You are always bitter and restless, cant never find peace, these are a few examples of the cascading effects of extreme long term slavery. 600 years!!

To suggest that one should regard themselves as inferior due to the historical conquests of another is utterly unfounded. It is akin to asserting that the proud Germanic peoples of Germania ought to feel diminished in stature because the Roman Empire once subjugated parts of their territory. Such a notion is absurd. Similarly, the fact that the Ottoman Turks once dominated the holy lands of Arabia mecca and medina and the Hejaz does not imply any sort of inferiority of the Arabs to the Turks. Furthermore, one must recognize that the nature of historical empires differs significantly from the modern colonialism of the nineteenth century. The Dutch settlers, for instance, operated under a vastly different paradigm than that of the Ottoman or Roman Empires.


Dr Zackovich

Well i could present you the map of the Ottoman Empire during the 15th century, a period marking the zenith of its power. This cartographic representation highlights the significant territories conquered and governed by the Ottomans during that time . Notably, it reveals their dominion extending only to the coastal regions of Eritrea , conspicuously omitting its interior. This absence reflects the Ottoman Empire's lack of interest in subjugating the inland African populace of Eritrea, as their primary focus lay in securing trade posts and strategically vital locations.

Comparatively, the colonization of South Africa by the Dutch presents a starkly different narrative, culminating in the system of apartheid. Here, one observes the establishment of a substantial community of Dutch settlers who forged a distinct Boer identity within South African society. This community, intermingled with European conflicts fought the brits there, fought battles on South African soil, creating a deeply entrenched colonial structure. In contrast, the methodology of the Dutch in establishing their Cape Colony stands in stark relief to the relatively transient nature of the Ottoman presence in Eritrea, which was limited to outposts along the Massawa coast.

Had the Ottomans embarked on a comparable venture to that of the Dutch, one might envision a scenario where hundreds of thousands of Balkan Turks were resettled in Eritrea, subsequently identifying as "Horners." Such an importation would parallel the Boer experience but is absent from the historical record of Ottoman engagement.

Furthermore it is worth addressing to say the least,, the notion that Eritrea lacks the right to invoke comparisons with European legacies such as the proud people of Germania . Eritrea’s rich tapestry of civilization is woven from threads of historic significance, epitomized by its ancient churches and the Axumite civilization—achievements that stand as testament to its cultural heritage. Indeed, these accomplishments emerged during epochs when much of Europe languished in barbarism and darkness. Thus, Eritrea possesses a legitimate claim to its own identity and historical narrative, one deserving of recognition and respect in the broader discourse of civilization indeed and you my Barbaric Amhara neighbour keeps having trouble
with that indeed.


Dr Zackovich

[Zack]

Its like talking to a brick wall I don’t know even where to begin with ur education


Dr Zackovich