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We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Geodude » 05 Jun 2024, 06:47

This unknown word has brought considerable damage to both of our countries. If you ask 10 "Eritreans" and 10 "Ethiopians" what it means, they will all give a different answer. Not only that, but this false identifier is heavily associated with Arabia and as such, many of our women and some of the guys too, have bleached their skin thinking it will bring them acceptance. This is forcing a dangerous mentality onto our people and setting an unhealthy precedence for the future.

I feel bad when I think about what the youth are going through. So many of them are lost and confused with nowhere to go to. We should be helping each other and building up their self-esteem. Instead, it's always the nonsensical bickering and the political arguments. Did you know both countries are still poor and uneducated?

I think we should call ourselves Cushites and start a new healing process. It is very much needed at this time and could have a positive effect on our communities. Then we can focus on more important matters, like moving the African Union out of "Ethiopia" as soon as possible. This issue can not wait any longer!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Geodude » 20 Jun 2024, 22:14

There is no such thing as "Amhara".

Amhara identity was formalized by the evil genius Meles Zenawi.
His policies brought significant damage to the whole region.



Geodude wrote:
05 Jun 2024, 06:47
This unknown word has brought considerable damage to both of our countries. If you ask 10 "Eritreans" and 10 "Ethiopians" what it means, they will all give a different answer. Not only that, but this false identifier is heavily associated with Arabia and as such, many of our women and some of the guys too, have bleached their skin thinking it will bring them acceptance. This is forcing a dangerous mentality onto our people and setting an unhealthy precedence for the future.

I feel bad when I think about what the youth are going through. So many of them are lost and confused with nowhere to go to. We should be helping each other and building up their self-esteem. Instead, it's always the nonsensical bickering and the political arguments. Did you know both countries are still poor and uneducated?

I think we should call ourselves Cushites and start a new healing process. It is very much needed at this time and could have a positive effect on our communities. Then we can focus on more important matters, like moving the African Union out of "Ethiopia" as soon as possible. This issue can not wait any longer!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Noble Amhara » 21 Jun 2024, 00:07


Geodude wrote:
20 Jun 2024, 22:14
There is no such thing as "Amhara".

Amhara identity was formalized by the evil genius Meles Zenawi.
His policies brought significant damage to the whole region.



Geodude wrote:
05 Jun 2024, 06:47
This unknown word has brought considerable damage to both of our countries. If you ask 10 "Eritreans" and 10 "Ethiopians" what it means, they will all give a different answer. Not only that, but this false identifier is heavily associated with Arabia and as such, many of our women and some of the guys too, have bleached their skin thinking it will bring them acceptance. This is forcing a dangerous mentality onto our people and setting an unhealthy precedence for the future.

I feel bad when I think about what the youth are going through. So many of them are lost and confused with nowhere to go to. We should be helping each other and building up their self-esteem. Instead, it's always the nonsensical bickering and the political arguments. Did you know both countries are still poor and uneducated?

I think we should call ourselves Cushites and start a new healing process. It is very much needed at this time and could have a positive effect on our communities. Then we can focus on more important matters, like moving the African Union out of "Ethiopia" as soon as possible. This issue can not wait any longer!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Agazi General » 21 Jun 2024, 00:09

BRAZER LETS LET Z PPL BE. BECAUSE SOMETIMES Z HABASHA WORD IS GOOD AND UNITES PPL. I PERSONALLY LIKE AGAZI BETTER. IT UNITES MEREB MILLASH AND TEEGRAY. ZEN ZE OZERS CAN JOIN, SUCH AS AFAR, KUNAMA, SAHO, TIGRE, EVEN AMHARU.

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Somaliman » 21 Jun 2024, 08:01

Ethiopians I come across on the street often ask me whether I'm Habasha in a short Amharic phrase. I don't speak Amharic, but I think that's what they were asking me, provided I'm not wrong. However, does that mean whether I'm Ethiopian or literally whether I'm Habasha?

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Geodude » 22 Jun 2024, 00:59

This is Agew and Kimant culture from Fassil Ghebbi.

The hair and gold the two girls were wearing resemble Axum.
Due to the proximity, I will accept it.

Should Gondar merge with Tigray?

Would Gonderes prefer to speak Tigrinya?
Could Israiel colonize "Ethiopia", formerly known as Abyssinia?



Noble Amhara wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 00:07

Geodude wrote:
20 Jun 2024, 22:14
There is no such thing as "Amhara".

Amhara identity was formalized by the evil genius Meles Zenawi.
His policies brought significant damage to the whole region.



Geodude wrote:
05 Jun 2024, 06:47
This unknown word has brought considerable damage to both of our countries. If you ask 10 "Eritreans" and 10 "Ethiopians" what it means, they will all give a different answer. Not only that, but this false identifier is heavily associated with Arabia and as such, many of our women and some of the guys too, have bleached their skin thinking it will bring them acceptance. This is forcing a dangerous mentality onto our people and setting an unhealthy precedence for the future.

I feel bad when I think about what the youth are going through. So many of them are lost and confused with nowhere to go to. We should be helping each other and building up their self-esteem. Instead, it's always the nonsensical bickering and the political arguments. Did you know both countries are still poor and uneducated?

I think we should call ourselves Cushites and start a new healing process. It is very much needed at this time and could have a positive effect on our communities. Then we can focus on more important matters, like moving the African Union out of "Ethiopia" as soon as possible. This issue can not wait any longer!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Geodude » 22 Jun 2024, 20:12

In modern day, I think AGAZI should describe the government or the military.

It doesn't accurately describe all the people.
We should at least replace "Habesha" with Habashi or al-Habash.

Tigre people need a new name, immediately!
So far, I have decided on Bedawi people and Bedaw language.
Also let's call "Amhara" what they really are.... Kimant Agews.



Agazi General wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 00:09
BRAZER LETS LET Z PPL BE. BECAUSE SOMETIMES Z HABASHA WORD IS GOOD AND UNITES PPL. I PERSONALLY LIKE AGAZI BETTER. IT UNITES MEREB MILLASH AND TEEGRAY. ZEN ZE OZERS CAN JOIN, SUCH AS AFAR, KUNAMA, SAHO, TIGRE, EVEN AMHARU.

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by union » 22 Jun 2024, 20:14

:lol: :lol:
Anbeta qorchame ascari eritrean

According to your retard as ari as's, there are 300 thousand retard hamassiens, but the 70 million Amara do not exist, huh?. :lol: yeah :lol:
Geodude wrote:
20 Jun 2024, 22:14
There is no such thing as "Amhara".

Amhara identity was formalized by the evil genius Meles Zenawi.
His policies brought significant damage to the whole region.



Geodude wrote:
05 Jun 2024, 06:47
This unknown word has brought considerable damage to both of our countries. If you ask 10 "Eritreans" and 10 "Ethiopians" what it means, they will all give a different answer. Not only that, but this false identifier is heavily associated with Arabia and as such, many of our women and some of the guys too, have bleached their skin thinking it will bring them acceptance. This is forcing a dangerous mentality onto our people and setting an unhealthy precedence for the future.

I feel bad when I think about what the youth are going through. So many of them are lost and confused with nowhere to go to. We should be helping each other and building up their self-esteem. Instead, it's always the nonsensical bickering and the political arguments. Did you know both countries are still poor and uneducated?

I think we should call ourselves Cushites and start a new healing process. It is very much needed at this time and could have a positive effect on our communities. Then we can focus on more important matters, like moving the African Union out of "Ethiopia" as soon as possible. This issue can not wait any longer!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Dark Energy » 22 Jun 2024, 21:42

Geo….tude,

You are very wrong. You hate Arabs. That is your problem. You want to be cushite, that is your business. Eritrean Tigrigna speakers are not ashamed of being Habesha. That is who we are. We have a lot in common with the Arabs. So be it. Culturally, the Arab is far to us more closer to us than the Nigerian or Ugandanian. Off course, the Amhara is our second cousin. You want to be an African [ deleted ], that is your business. :evil: :lol: :lol:

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Noble Amhara » 22 Jun 2024, 22:51

Goooo fuuuuxk urself adwa loser

Geodude wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 00:59
This is Agew and Kimant culture from Fassil Ghebbi.

The hair and gold the two girls were wearing resemble Axum.
Due to the proximity, I will accept it.

Should Gondar merge with Tigray?

Would Gonderes prefer to speak Tigrinya?
Could Israiel colonize "Ethiopia", formerly known as Abyssinia?



Noble Amhara wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 00:07

Geodude wrote:
20 Jun 2024, 22:14
There is no such thing as "Amhara".

Amhara identity was formalized by the evil genius Meles Zenawi.
His policies brought significant damage to the whole region.



Geodude wrote:
05 Jun 2024, 06:47
This unknown word has brought considerable damage to both of our countries. If you ask 10 "Eritreans" and 10 "Ethiopians" what it means, they will all give a different answer. Not only that, but this false identifier is heavily associated with Arabia and as such, many of our women and some of the guys too, have bleached their skin thinking it will bring them acceptance. This is forcing a dangerous mentality onto our people and setting an unhealthy precedence for the future.

I feel bad when I think about what the youth are going through. So many of them are lost and confused with nowhere to go to. We should be helping each other and building up their self-esteem. Instead, it's always the nonsensical bickering and the political arguments. Did you know both countries are still poor and uneducated?

I think we should call ourselves Cushites and start a new healing process. It is very much needed at this time and could have a positive effect on our communities. Then we can focus on more important matters, like moving the African Union out of "Ethiopia" as soon as possible. This issue can not wait any longer!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Zack » 23 Jun 2024, 07:00

Well the Question is what is habesha its a broad term, does it denote the highland peoples of Eritrea and Ethiopia, specifically the Christians? Can (Gallas) also be considered Habesha? Furthermore, the Hararis, who speak a Semitic language, are they included under the umbrella of Habesha? These queries highlight a complex and nuanced understanding of identity in the region.

Regarding Dark Energy's assertion of Eritrean identity, it is pertinent to note that the Eritrean Charter, adopted by the Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF) in 1991, explicitly distances Eritreans from the term Habesha. The charter marks a significant departure as it renounces the use of Habesha from Eritrean vocabulary, aligning with a distinct national identity separate from the historical connotations associated with Habesha.

This stance underscores a deliberate effort by the Eritrean leadership to articulate and assert an identity that is distinct from the broader Habesha categorization, emphasizing Eritrea's unique historical, cultural, and political trajectory. The decision to disengage from the term Habesha reflects a strategic move towards solidifying Eritrean national identity on terms that resonate internally and internationally.

In conclusion, while the term Habesha historically encompassed various ethnic and linguistic groups within the highlands of Eritrea and Ethiopia, recent developments, particularly within Eritrea, indicate a deliberate shift away from its usage. This evolution prompts a broader discussion on identity dynamics and the implications of linguistic, cultural, and political affiliations within the region indeed.

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Somaliman » 23 Jun 2024, 08:31

Zack wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 07:00
Well the Question is what is habesha its a broad term, does it denote the highland peoples of Eritrea and Ethiopia, specifically the Christians? Can (Gallas) also be considered Habesha? Furthermore, the Hararis, who speak a Semitic language, are they included under the umbrella of Habesha? These queries highlight a complex and nuanced understanding of identity in the region.

Regarding Dark Energy's assertion of Eritrean identity, it is pertinent to note that the Eritrean Charter, adopted by the Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF) in 1991, explicitly distances Eritreans from the term Habesha. The charter marks a significant departure as it renounces the use of Habesha from Eritrean vocabulary, aligning with a distinct national identity separate from the historical connotations associated with Habesha.

This stance underscores a deliberate effort by the Eritrean leadership to articulate and assert an identity that is distinct from the broader Habesha categorization, emphasizing Eritrea's unique historical, cultural, and political trajectory. The decision to disengage from the term Habesha reflects a strategic move towards solidifying Eritrean national identity on terms that resonate internally and internationally.

In conclusion, while the term Habesha historically encompassed various ethnic and linguistic groups within the highlands of Eritrea and Ethiopia, recent developments, particularly within Eritrea, indicate a deliberate shift away from its usage. This evolution prompts a broader discussion on identity dynamics and the implications of linguistic, cultural, and political affiliations within the region indeed.

Dr Zackovich




Zack,

Could you please answer my question above?

Where's the adult who's trapped in a child's brain - Sadacha Macca! I'm asking myself to answer my own question to me, right, as Zack, others, and myself represent all one person!

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Zack » 23 Jun 2024, 09:13

Somaliman wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 08:01
Ethiopians I come across on the street often ask me whether I'm Habasha in a short Amharic phrase. I don't speak Amharic, but I think that's what they were asking me, provided I'm not wrong. However, does that mean whether I'm Ethiopian or literally whether I'm Habasha?


The fact that they asked whether you were Habesha was a polite and nuanced way of asking if you were either Ethiopian or Eritrean. They were uncertain of your exact nationality, hence the use of the term Habesha. It is understood that many Eritreans may take offense at being mistaken for Ethiopians, but culturally, the term Habesha is employed as a broad descriptor. This term encompasses the Amhara and Tigrayan ethnic groups, and sometimes even includes individuals from the Galla community. Thus, when someone asks if a person is Habesha, they are attempting to ascertain more precisely where the person hails from within the shared cultural and historical context of these regions.


The term "Habesha" has an intriguing and multifaceted origin, reflecting a rich tapestry of cultural and historical nuances. According to some Arab traditions, the term "Habesha" is derived from the root word "Abesha," which translates to "burned face." This etymology suggests a descriptive reference to the darker complexion of the people. This interpretation underscores the significance of physical appearance in the cultural lexicon of the region.

However, there exists an alternative and equally compelling theory regarding the origin of "Habesha." Some scholars posit that the term may trace its roots to an ancient region in Yemen known as "Habashat." This historical connection to Yemen highlights the deep and longstanding interactions between the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa. The migration and intermingling of communities across the Red Sea have profoundly influenced the cultural and genetic makeup of the populations in these regions.

This polite inquiry recognizes the intricate tapestry of ethnic identities in the Horn of Africa and acknowledges the shared heritage and cultural affinities among these groups. While the term Habesha is commonly associated with Ethiopians and Eritreans, it also reflects a deeper cultural connection that transcends modern national borders. The use of this term signifies an understanding of the rich historical ties and the complex interplay of identities in this region. Therefore, the question is not merely about nationality but also an appreciation of the profound cultural and historical bonds that define the Habesha identity. Hope that clarifies something.

Ultimately, the term "Habesha" eludes a definitive meaning or representation.
Gallas can be habesha some times but sometimes they are not


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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Somaliman » 23 Jun 2024, 09:54

Zack wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 09:13
Somaliman wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 08:01
Ethiopians I come across on the street often ask me whether I'm Habasha in a short Amharic phrase. I don't speak Amharic, but I think that's what they were asking me, provided I'm not wrong. However, does that mean whether I'm Ethiopian or literally whether I'm Habasha?


The fact that they asked whether you were Habesha was a polite and nuanced way of asking if you were either Ethiopian or Eritrean. They were uncertain of your exact nationality, hence the use of the term Habesha. It is understood that many Eritreans may take offense at being mistaken for Ethiopians, but culturally, the term Habesha is employed as a broad descriptor. This term encompasses the Amhara and Tigrayan ethnic groups, and sometimes even includes individuals from the Galla community. Thus, when someone asks if a person is Habesha, they are attempting to ascertain more precisely where the person hails from within the shared cultural and historical context of these regions.


The term "Habesha" has an intriguing and multifaceted origin, reflecting a rich tapestry of cultural and historical nuances. According to some Arab traditions, the term "Habesha" is derived from the root word "Abesha," which translates to "burned face." This etymology suggests a descriptive reference to the darker complexion of the people. This interpretation underscores the significance of physical appearance in the cultural lexicon of the region.

However, there exists an alternative and equally compelling theory regarding the origin of "Habesha." Some scholars posit that the term may trace its roots to an ancient region in Yemen known as "Habashat." This historical connection to Yemen highlights the deep and longstanding interactions between the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa. The migration and intermingling of communities across the Red Sea have profoundly influenced the cultural and genetic makeup of the populations in these regions.

This polite inquiry recognizes the intricate tapestry of ethnic identities in the Horn of Africa and acknowledges the shared heritage and cultural affinities among these groups. While the term Habesha is commonly associated with Ethiopians and Eritreans, it also reflects a deeper cultural connection that transcends modern national borders. The use of this term signifies an understanding of the rich historical ties and the complex interplay of identities in this region. Therefore, the question is not merely about nationality but also an appreciation of the profound cultural and historical bonds that define the Habesha identity. Hope that clarifies something.

Ultimately, the term "Habesha" eludes a definitive meaning or representation.
Gallas can be habesha some times but sometimes they are not


Dr Zackovich




Thanks for your time, even though Sadacha Macca, who's trapped in a child's brain, would think that you're just talking to yourself!

Imagine one asks a question, and at the same time types all that and makes such a monumental effort to elucidate what they've asked themselves again to themselves! This would be crazier than keep filling a barrel that has got a hole at the bottom with water.

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Dark Energy » 23 Jun 2024, 10:27

Zack,

EPLF was a young revolutionary group in the 70’s. The leadership was dictatorial and dangerously emotional. The good thing that came out of EPLF was its fighters tenacity. EPLF doe not have any say to tell us whether we are Habesha or not. On the other hand, although dominated by none Habesha leadership, Jebha aka ELF was very democratic as well as liberal. The term habesha was respected. Human rights were in order. Both groups had strength and weaknesses. At this point in time, ELF would have built a strong democratic and advanced government in Eritrea. That is my opinion. A lot of highly educated Eritreans believe that too.

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Zack » 23 Jun 2024, 11:21

Somaliman wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 09:54
Zack wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 09:13
Somaliman wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 08:01
Ethiopians I come across on the street often ask me whether I'm Habasha in a short Amharic phrase. I don't speak Amharic, but I think that's what they were asking me, provided I'm not wrong. However, does that mean whether I'm Ethiopian or literally whether I'm Habasha?


The fact that they asked whether you were Habesha was a polite and nuanced way of asking if you were either Ethiopian or Eritrean. They were uncertain of your exact nationality, hence the use of the term Habesha. It is understood that many Eritreans may take offense at being mistaken for Ethiopians, but culturally, the term Habesha is employed as a broad descriptor. This term encompasses the Amhara and Tigrayan ethnic groups, and sometimes even includes individuals from the Galla community. Thus, when someone asks if a person is Habesha, they are attempting to ascertain more precisely where the person hails from within the shared cultural and historical context of these regions.


The term "Habesha" has an intriguing and multifaceted origin, reflecting a rich tapestry of cultural and historical nuances. According to some Arab traditions, the term "Habesha" is derived from the root word "Abesha," which translates to "burned face." This etymology suggests a descriptive reference to the darker complexion of the people. This interpretation underscores the significance of physical appearance in the cultural lexicon of the region.

However, there exists an alternative and equally compelling theory regarding the origin of "Habesha." Some scholars posit that the term may trace its roots to an ancient region in Yemen known as "Habashat." This historical connection to Yemen highlights the deep and longstanding interactions between the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula and the Horn of Africa. The migration and intermingling of communities across the Red Sea have profoundly influenced the cultural and genetic makeup of the populations in these regions.

This polite inquiry recognizes the intricate tapestry of ethnic identities in the Horn of Africa and acknowledges the shared heritage and cultural affinities among these groups. While the term Habesha is commonly associated with Ethiopians and Eritreans, it also reflects a deeper cultural connection that transcends modern national borders. The use of this term signifies an understanding of the rich historical ties and the complex interplay of identities in this region. Therefore, the question is not merely about nationality but also an appreciation of the profound cultural and historical bonds that define the Habesha identity. Hope that clarifies something.

Ultimately, the term "Habesha" eludes a definitive meaning or representation.
Gallas can be habesha some times but sometimes they are not


Dr Zackovich




Thanks for your time, even though Sadacha Macca, who's trapped in a child's brain, would think that you're just talking to yourself!

Imagine one asks a question, and at the same time types all that and makes such a monumental effort to elucidate what they've asked themselves again to themselves! This would be crazier than keep filling a barrel that has got a hole at the bottom with water.


Hé thinks we talk to each and write so much to each other just to confuse his galla brain . Nobody has time for that.


Hahahah :lol:

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Re: We Must Stop Saying "Habesha"

Post by Abere » 23 Jun 2024, 11:43

According to Zack, who was also on the table writing the "Constitution of Eritrea", the law of the the land of Eritrea already decided that Eritreans are no more Habesha :lol: And my interpretation now is if any Eritrean breaches the law, he/she would be jailed and carries severe penalty. Sever penalty in Eritrea means, death penalty. That is why Eritrea is depopulated. First, Shabia kills them; next war, third Red Sea shark. :lol:

May God wipe the tears of the people of Eritrea province. Crock Shabia are only vomiting their inferiority complex ridden lies. The fact is, Eritreans are Tigre and are Habesha. If you are from Eritrea, naturally you are Ethiopian. It is naturally minted on you, neither Herman Cohen, Joe Biden or Rebel Isaias can change.

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