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Somalia never recognized Somaliland therefore UN hasn't yet. But the good Samaritan Meles Zenawi recognized who?

Post by Misraq » 02 Jan 2024, 08:21

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Ayte genius Meles Zenawi recognized the Italian colony carved out alongside the coastal sea and U.N has no options.

A good lesson for Tegaru going forward that their policy should not be dictated out of pure intentions of harming Amhara in process harming themselves.

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Re: Somalia never recognized Somaliland therefore UN hasn't yet. But the good Samaritan Meles Zenawi recognized who?

Post by Right » 02 Jan 2024, 08:28

Aha!
Brother Misraq you nailed it. Ethiopians are down to earth good people. Nobody can survive by hurting Ethiopians.
The news is that the Kenyans even have a bigger propositions to Ethiopia to sustain their long term economic interests.

Believe me thuggery, deceptions and manipulation may win you a flag and a passport but ultimately it will kill you.

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Re: Somalia never recognized Somaliland therefore UN hasn't yet. But the good Samaritan Meles Zenawi recognized who?

Post by Dark Energy » 02 Jan 2024, 11:09

Misraq,

Somali land was a British colony at the end of Second World War. Proper Somalia was Italian colony.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Somaliland
. On 26 June 1960, British Somaliland declared independence as the State of Somaliland. Five days later, on 1 July 1960, the State of Somaliland voluntarily united with the Trust Territory of Somalia (the former Italian Somalia) to form the Somali Republic.[3][4] The government of Somaliland, a self-declared sovereign state that is internationally recognised as an autonomous region of Somalia,[5][6] regards itself as the successor state to British Somaliland.[7][8]
That is where the controversy lies. In this case, the useless UN and African Unity should have intervened and solved the problem according to the OA U’s agreements. Neither side will give in. Somali Land has successfully gained a leverage for leasing the port for twenty years. Don’t forget the Ogaden controversy. The Puntland following the Somali Land suit. Abbiy is destabilizing the horn. His Galla behind practically liberated from pseudo slavery, and successfully making Ethiopia a gangster state will bear serious consequences.

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Re: Somalia never recognized Somaliland therefore UN hasn't yet. But the good Samaritan Meles Zenawi recognized who?

Post by Misraq » 02 Jan 2024, 11:19

Right wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 08:28
Aha!
Brother Misraq you nailed it. Ethiopians are down to earth good people. Nobody can survive by hurting Ethiopians.
The news is that the Kenyans even have a bigger propositions to Ethiopia to sustain their long term economic interests.

Believe me thuggery, deceptions and manipulation may win you a flag and a passport but ultimately it will kill you.
Very true

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Re: Somalia never recognized Somaliland therefore UN hasn't yet. But the good Samaritan Meles Zenawi recognized who?

Post by euroland » 02 Jan 2024, 12:15

EmsRaq
Eritrea gained its independence by completely decimating your mama’s clients after 30 years of horrible war. Eritrea also not only had a military victory over its occupiers, it also had a legal and diplomatic apprehend to declare its independence, approved unanimously by the UN general assembly. Your Weyane had no other option other than the accept the reality on the ground. Furthermore, despite what you low IQ people told that without Ethiopia’s recognition of Eritrea’s independence, Eritrea wouldn’t have been a country, there other many countries whose independence is recognized despite their former colonies opposition; such from Boltic countries (Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia as well as Montenegro) all have been recognized by the UN although the Serbia (former Yugoslavia) opposed it til this day. Somaliland wasn’t recognized by the UN not because the main land Somalia opposed it, it is unrecognized for statehood because, it couldn’t prove a legal and historical means to become a country. Somalia was one country before the British and Italy divided it into two for a few years ; this couldn’t be a a reason to seperate from the main Somalia. Historically, it is one people, one religion and culture who happened to be separated temporarily by colonialism. On Eritrea case, Eritrea was completely a separate state after the creation of the current Ethiopia that started from Menilik II. Remember, you all brag about Ethiopia wasn’t colonized by Westerns, right? This by itself is an admission that Eritrea, who was colonized from Epypt, Ottoman, Italia to British was never part of Ethiopia. You can’t have a cake and eat it too.


Misraq wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 08:21
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Ayte genius Meles Zenawi recognized the Italian colony carved out alongside the coastal sea and U.N has no options.

A good lesson for Tegaru going forward that their policy should not be dictated out of pure intentions of harming Amhara in process harming themselves.

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Re: Somalia never recognized Somaliland therefore UN hasn't yet. But the good Samaritan Meles Zenawi recognized who?

Post by Zack » 02 Jan 2024, 13:30

euroland wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 12:15
EmsRaq
Eritrea gained its independence by completely decimating your mama’s clients after 30 years of horrible war. Eritrea also not only had a military victory over its occupiers, it also had a legal and diplomatic apprehend to declare its independence, approved unanimously by the UN general assembly. Your Weyane had no other option other than the accept the reality on the ground. Furthermore, despite what you low IQ people told that without Ethiopia’s recognition of Eritrea’s independence, Eritrea wouldn’t have been a country, there other many countries whose independence is recognized despite their former colonies opposition; such from Boltic countries (Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia as well as Montenegro) all have been recognized by the UN although the Serbia (former Yugoslavia) opposed it til this day. Somaliland wasn’t recognized by the UN not because the main land Somalia opposed it, it is unrecognized for statehood because, it couldn’t prove a legal and historical means to become a country. Somalia was one country before the British and Italy divided it into two for a few years ; this couldn’t be a a reason to seperate from the main Somalia. Historically, it is one people, one religion and culture who happened to be separated temporarily by colonialism. On Eritrea case, Eritrea was completely a separate state after the creation of the current Ethiopia that started from Menilik II. Remember, you all brag about Ethiopia wasn’t colonized by Westerns, right? This by itself is an admission that Eritrea, who was colonized from Epypt, Ottoman, Italia to British was never part of Ethiopia. You can’t have a cake and eat it too.


Misraq wrote:
02 Jan 2024, 08:21
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Ayte genius Meles Zenawi recognized the Italian colony carved out alongside the coastal sea and U.N has no options.

A good lesson for Tegaru going forward that their policy should not be dictated out of pure intentions of harming Amhara in process harming themselves.


this absolutely incorrect the north and south Somali , somaliland and somalia were two separate colonies from the the get go , before the Europeans they were never united hence why they cant unite today. Its back to the basis. Somaliland basically one clan so the land mass is basically under one clan Which is the Dir clan which is the Oldest Somali clan , that All Somalis claim to have some sort of affiliation with. There was not a single state Somalis shared prior To Colonialism there was the gobroon in the south the Majeerteen sultranate in Puntland the Warsangali in Somaliland , the Issa Sultanate in shinile all the way To Djibouti prior to that it was Adal and Ifat. To be honest Somaliland case is actually identical to that of Eritrea but the problem for them and lucky for us Somali unionist the Arab league is opposed to it.

Why is the Arab league opposed to it adamantly because of Egypt who wants the Somalis united to combat the Ethiopian empire, Thats the sole reason why Somaliland isnt recognized. In the 15 century Somalia proper was under Ajuuraan minus Puntland , and Somaliland Djibouti and Harar was under Adal. So from historic point of view. African statehood started in the late 1800s , 19 century the Somali or greater Somalia is not only the two colonies of Somalia and Somaliland but it includes Djibouti Somali region under Ethiopian occupation it includes kenya NFD region its all Somali territory.

All Somali territories combined including socotra is as large as India. Ethopia was not colonized Ethiopia can pride its self the only country not toe be colonized Egypt briefly conquered it Italy occupied it briefly few years. lets give ,menelik despite him being my enemy i give him credit for being a smart politician and kept his empire free of white rule


With Eritrea it was different i do believe that Eritrea would have at least be recognized by the 20 Arab states had the world to refuse mainly the west if Ethiopia didnt recognize it first. they would have had a better record than Somaliland because the Arabs would be on their side, and view it a way to Hurt Ethiopia. Thats the same difference But to put record straight From a legal point of view the Somaliland is pretty solid , how ever they wont be recognized because simply geopolitical interest and simply there is no oil like south sudan , if there was oil they would be recognized. How ever this is a problem giving a sea out let to Ethiopia and to try win recognition , for them it seems to be a valid case i would suggest not , Because they will screw us all , because if Ethiopia has a sea out let via Somaliland they wont need our Djibouti port to get their import export.


Dr Zackovich

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