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If abiy fails to make a peace deal with Shene he will try to make a peace deal with fano

Post by Noble Amhara » 08 Dec 2023, 02:39

Abiys reasoning is simple hit 1 bird with one stone... abiy does not want to hit 2 birds with 1 stone

I propose a peace agreement between ENDF/Fano as a way for Abiy to save himself in Oromia. Zemene Kassie and Mere wedajo should lead talks one day and end the conflict in Amhara Region...This will stabilize Ethiopia as a whole and I support it.. Most amharas do not. want a war torn state rather Amhara should be free and equal to others in the country ... if wisdom is granted there can be a end to the amhara issue with PP... Wisdom is granted by God and is more valuable than Gold and riches.. Wisdom can stop wars and destructions wisdom brings life..

The conditions should be based on avoiding conflicts but still allowing Amhara to have its own autonomous right to self defend. This would allow ENDF to travel across amhara without having to fight with Amharas through a declaration of ceasefire

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Re: If abiy fails to make a peace deal with Shene he will try to make a peace deal with fano

Post by Horus » 08 Dec 2023, 03:06

Noble,

እንዴት በዚህ ልክ ት ሳ ሳታለህ? ለአቢይ እጅግ ቀላሉ መንገድ ከሸኔ ጋር ስልጣን መካፈልና ኦሮሙምና ማጠናከር ነው! ፒፒ ስልጣኑን ሳያጣ ማለት ነው። አማራ ከዚህ በኋላ በፒፒ አይገዛም፣ በፍጹም ! ስለዚህ አቢይ ከፋኖ ጋር የሚደራደረው በመጨረሻ ከስልጣን የሚወድቅ ከሆነ ብቻ ነው ። ያማራ ፒፒ መፍረስ ያቢይ መፍረስ ስለሆነ! ይልቅስ የሚሆነው እንደ ሚከተለው ነው ።

አማራን በድሮንና አፈና ማዳከምና አማራን የሚያምበረክክ ድርድር መጥራት

ያ ካልሆነ ሸኔ ጋር ታርቅ የሸኔ ወታደሮች በመከላከያ ስም አማራ ላይ ማዝመት ነው !

አማሮች ይህ በግዜ አውቀው ትግሉን ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ካላሰፉ ሁሉም ብላሽ ይሆናል !

ፋኖ አማራ ውስጥ ብቻ ተወስኖ ምንም ለውጥ ሊያመጣ አይችልም !

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Re: If abiy fails to make a peace deal with Shene he will try to make a peace deal with fano

Post by Noble Amhara » 08 Dec 2023, 03:52

scenario A - The purpose of peace is to save the Ethiopian army in Oromia to stop the war going on in the Amhara region. Ethiopia's survival is important. Shene could not make peace with prosperity. The war could be halted for a year if wisdom is given space.

scenario B - If conflict escalates in Oromia between the Jimmans and Welegans. Fano should not stop but rather get closer Aleltu, Fiche, Chefe Donsa, Sheno, MukeTuri etc... Make sure to have enough room to be an entity that can stabilize the country as a form of power balance.

Horus wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 03:06
Noble,

እንዴት በዚህ ልክ ት ሳ ሳታለህ? ለአቢይ እጅግ ቀላሉ መንገድ ከሸኔ ጋር ስልጣን መካፈልና ኦሮሙምና ማጠናከር ነው! ፒፒ ስልጣኑን ሳያጣ ማለት ነው። አማራ ከዚህ በኋላ በፒፒ አይገዛም፣ በፍጹም ! ስለዚህ አቢይ ከፋኖ ጋር የሚደራደረው በመጨረሻ ከስልጣን የሚወድቅ ከሆነ ብቻ ነው ። ያማራ ፒፒ መፍረስ ያቢይ መፍረስ ስለሆነ! ይልቅስ የሚሆነው እንደ ሚከተለው ነው ።

አማራን በድሮንና አፈና ማዳከምና አማራን የሚያምበረክክ ድርድር መጥራት

ያ ካልሆነ ሸኔ ጋር ታርቅ የሸኔ ወታደሮች በመከላከያ ስም አማራ ላይ ማዝመት ነው !

አማሮች ይህ በግዜ አውቀው ትግሉን ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ካላሰፉ ሁሉም ብላሽ ይሆናል !

ፋኖ አማራ ውስጥ ብቻ ተወስኖ ምንም ለውጥ ሊያመጣ አይችልም !

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Re: If abiy fails to make a peace deal with Shene he will try to make a peace deal with fano

Post by temari » 08 Dec 2023, 05:21

Noble Amhara wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 02:39
Abiys reasoning is simple hit 1 bird with one stone... abiy does not want to hit 2 birds with 1 stone

I propose a peace agreement between ENDF/Fano as a way for Abiy to save himself in Oromia. Zemene Kassie and Mere wedajo should lead talks one day and end the conflict in Amhara Region...This will stabilize Ethiopia as a whole and I support it.. Most amharas do not. want a war torn state rather Amhara should be free and equal to others in the country ... if wisdom is granted there can be a end to the amhara issue with PP... Wisdom is granted by God and is more valuable than Gold and riches.. Wisdom can stop wars and destructions wisdom brings life..

The conditions should be based on avoiding conflicts but still allowing Amhara to have its own autonomous right to self defend. This would allow ENDF to travel across amhara without having to fight with Amharas through a declaration of ceasefire
So, for you it’s all about saving Abiy. Hmm
I hate the war to death because of the destruction it’s causing but trying to help Abiy survive is the worst strategy for Amhara, Ethiopia and the region as a whole.

Remember what happened when last time Amharas helped save Abiy? The moment he felt safe, he started an unprovoked war against Amhara. Do you know what will happen if yet again Amharas help Abiy’s army get some breathing space so it crash Shene? Abiy will use the “peace“ to recruit and reorganize its demoralized army, buy more weapons and will start even a bigger and more devastating war against Amharas.

I see zero option for peace as long as the narcissist madman Idi Abiy is in power. You should ask for the resignation of the madman if you’re serious about a lasting peace. Believe me if the madman somehow manages to win the wars in Amhara and Oromia he will start a new one against Eritrea. I’m very sure now that he will do it. The guy is mentally unstable. Many don’t understand him but logic doesn’t work with this psychopath.

Trying to save Abiy is a recipe for disaster for the whole region. He must be forced to resign!

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Re: If abiy fails to make a peace deal with Shene he will try to make a peace deal with fano

Post by Noble Amhara » 08 Dec 2023, 05:29

you are right. We cannot help abiy.

but ITs better that we don't have to fight ENDF (ethiopian army)... In fact I said in may Fano can avoid conflict with ENDF by avoiding certain cities that will enable them to be able to reach the core of the country instead of being in the core of አማራ. We know that ENDF will be re-called back into Oromia one day when Shene reaches Addis. In the case of that I support ENDF against Sheene. so we shouldnt be focused on killing their soldiers... their soldiers will have to die in oromia


temari wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 05:21
Noble Amhara wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 02:39
Abiys reasoning is simple hit 1 bird with one stone... abiy does not want to hit 2 birds with 1 stone

I propose a peace agreement between ENDF/Fano as a way for Abiy to save himself in Oromia. Zemene Kassie and Mere wedajo should lead talks one day and end the conflict in Amhara Region...This will stabilize Ethiopia as a whole and I support it.. Most amharas do not. want a war torn state rather Amhara should be free and equal to others in the country ... if wisdom is granted there can be a end to the amhara issue with PP... Wisdom is granted by God and is more valuable than Gold and riches.. Wisdom can stop wars and destructions wisdom brings life..

The conditions should be based on avoiding conflicts but still allowing Amhara to have its own autonomous right to self defend. This would allow ENDF to travel across amhara without having to fight with Amharas through a declaration of ceasefire
So, for you it’s all about saving Abiy. Hmm
I hate the war to death because of the destruction it’s causing but trying to help Abiy survive is the worst strategy for Amhara, Ethiopia and the region as a whole.

Remember what happened when last time Amharas helped save Abiy? The moment he felt safe, he started an unprovoked war against Amhara. Do you know what will happen if yet again Amharas help Abiy’s army get some breathing space so it crash Shene? Abiy will use the “peace“ to recruit and reorganize its demoralized army, buy more weapons and will start even a bigger and more devastating war against Amharas.

I see zero option for peace as long as the narcissist madman Idi Abiy is in power. You should ask for the resignation of the madman if you’re serious about a lasting peace. Believe me if the madman somehow manages to win the wars in Amhara and Oromia he will start a new one against Eritrea. I’m very sure now that he will do it. The guy is mentally unstable. Many don’t understand him but logic doesn’t work with this psychopath.

Trying to save Abiy is a recipe for disaster for the whole region.

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Re: If abiy fails to make a peace deal with Shene he will try to make a peace deal with fano

Post by eritrea » 08 Dec 2023, 06:23

temari wrote:
08 Dec 2023, 05:21
So, for you it’s all about saving Abiy. Hmm
I hate the war to death because of the destruction it’s causing but trying to help Abiy survive is the worst strategy for Amhara, Ethiopia and the region as a whole.

Remember what happened when last time Amharas helped save Abiy? The moment he felt safe, he started an unprovoked war against Amhara. Do you know what will happen if yet again Amharas help Abiy’s army get some breathing space so it crash Shene? Abiy will use the “peace“ to recruit and reorganize its demoralized army, buy more weapons and will start even a bigger and more devastating war against Amharas.

I see zero option for peace as long as the narcissist madman Idi Abiy is in power. You should ask for the resignation of the madman if you’re serious about a lasting peace. Believe me if the madman somehow manages to win the wars in Amhara and Oromia he will start a new one against Eritrea. I’m very sure now that he will do it. The guy is mentally unstable. Many don’t understand him but logic doesn’t work with this psychopath.

Trying to save Abiy is a recipe for disaster for the whole region. He must be forced to resign!
I couldn't agree more.

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