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Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Fiyameta » 14 Oct 2023, 13:30

New Red Sea alliance launched by Saudi Arabia, but excludes key players

A new regional council involving eight countries in the Red Sea corridor was launched this week with Saudi Arabia at the helm as a way to tackle piracy, smuggling and other related issues. The council aims to enhance stability in the region, but regional rivalries and notable exclusions from the initiative remain a key sticking point.


Foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Eritrea, Yemen, Sudan, Djibouti and Somalia, attend a meeting to sign the Charter of the Council of Arab and Afraican Coastal States of the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, January 6, 2020.


By: Laura Angela Bagnetto

“It seems for the moment that the piracy/maritime security angle is a good way to initiate cooperation between the countries of the region while staying outside of the political issues that may divide them,” said Camille Lons, research associate at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Middle East in Bahrain.

Foreign ministers from countries including Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, Eritrea, Egypt, Yemen, and Jordan signed the charter of the Council of Arab and African Coastal States of the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden on Monday. All border the Red Sea or the Gulf of Aden.

The regional grouping was initially slated to focus on a number of topics, including economic cooperation, cultural exchanges, and environmental issues, Lons told RFI.

“Under the Saudi leadership it has been re-centred around security issues,” she added.

At the council charter signing in Riyadh on Monday, Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud said that this new regional body would not create an entirely new defense force.

The idea for the council was initially announced in 2018 as a joint Egypt-Saudi initiative, as Saudi emerged as the lead after a juggling of interests, according to Ahmed Soliman, Africa Programme research fellow at Chatham House.

“This is borne out of increasing engagement across the Red Sea, and interests from the Gulf states and others in territories across the Red Sea in the Horn of Africa region,” said Soliman, referring to the number of port projects that have started or are planned in Sudan, Djibouti, Eritrea, and Somaliland.

The Red Sea corridor spans 2250 kilometres at its widest point, a key waterway that separates the Mediterranean from the Indian Ocean and beyond to Asia, as billions of euros in shipping trade pass through its waters each year. The fishing industry in the Red Sea is also a competitive one.

This key strategic waterway also retains an important political dimension, said IISS’ Lons.

“For Saudi Arabia, the aim is to preserve the Red Sea from external influence, especially from its political rivals (Turkey, Qatar, Iran). Creating a platform that focuses on littoral countries is an efficient way of claiming that Turkey, Qatar and Iran have nothing to do in Red Sea matters,” she said.Who has been included and who has been excluded poses another set of issues for this new regional body.

“You don’t want to limit participation to littoral states only there is a need to look at more inclusive engagement and membership around that,” said Soliman, referring to Ethiopia, the sixth largest landlocked country in the world, and a major trading partner with Djibouti.

Somaliland creates another issue in terms of lack of membership on the council.

Somaliland shut out

The self-declared country of Somaliland, located in the Gulf of Aden in the northwest corner of Somalia, has been trading directly with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) for a number of years, specifically in shipping livestock from Berbera port.

Its 850-kilometre coastline is in a key position in the Red Sea Corridor, a point in the statement from the Somaliland foreign ministry on Tuesday.

It will not cooperate with any policies or programs originating from the council as “long as its excluded and denied its rightful position among the important stakeholders,” it said, adding that “it will not recognize the formation of any blocs that exclude legitimate stakeholders based on arbitrary, irrelevant or discriminatory criteria.”

“It is true that the question of Somaliland’s inclusion into the council is problematic,” said researcher Lons.

Somaliland has previously sought to be included in this initiative as well as obtain observer status for the Horn of Africa regional bloc Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) taskforce in the Red Sea, she said.

“Many officials from the region are sympathetic to Somaliland’s position, but it would be diplomatically untenable for them to include it in the council,” she added.

Somalia-Somaliland tensions have heightened due to the UAE contract to construct a military and commercial base in Berbera, the site of its strategic port.

“Saudi Arabia is trying to find a balance, and although it has relations with Somaliland, it is also trying to keep its relations with Mogadishu as well, and it fears that adding Somaliland to the Council would antagonise Mogadishu,” said Lons.

Within the small grouping are a number of issues and competing interests, not only Somaliland. The quest for ports in the Red Sea has created deeper rivalries between the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia/UAE alliance and the Qatari-Turkey grouping.

Mogadishu has resisted persuasive efforts from Riyadh to turn away from its support of Saudi rival Qatar.

Ethiopia, the sixth largest landlocked country in the world, and a major trading partner with Djibouti, maintains its own struggle with Egypt. Its efforts to channel water from the Nile River to create its Grand Ethiopia Renaissance Dam, has fuelled tensions on both sides of the border. Egypt believes the dam would threaten farmers and the country as a whole by depriving it of its essential source of water.

For Saudi Arabia, there is a similar dilemma over the inclusion of Ethiopia in the Council, said Lons. “Keeping it outside makes little sense, but KSA is trying to spare Egypt,” she added.

Riyadh has a lot on its hands in terms of dealing with and appeasing its council regional partners. The actual workings of the council have not been revealed yet, and some wonder if this is another Saudi initiative carrying a lot of fanfare and not a lot of substance.

After postponing the Afro-Arab summit last November, the conference is scheduled for early 2020, where more of the framework of the Council of Arab and African Coastal States of the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden could be revealed or not.

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Fiyameta » 14 Oct 2023, 18:08

I think Ethiopia should be granted an observer status to the Red Sea Forum since it relies on Djibouti's port services for 95% of its maritime trade. This in turn will tame the ego of some Ethiopian officials feeling socially ostracized.

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Cigar » 14 Oct 2023, 18:46

Fiyameta, I too object a country which has nothing to do with the Red Sea to attend such meetings.
If Ethiopia has interest in the Red Sea then it needs to kiss Eritrea’s a’ss to protect its interests at the meetings, granted the ungrateful PM and the nut case Ethiopians stupid narratives we recently been hearing.
Trying to please the Ethiopians we are being attacked by some idiots including their mother fu’cker PM.
I know that Shaebia knows what it is doing, but as an individual Eritrean I am going to say my piece.
Some of the Ethiopians including the dumb a’ss low IQ Abiy need to be told to fu’cken respect Eritrea and its owns or else.

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Temt » 14 Oct 2023, 18:49

Cigar wrote:
14 Oct 2023, 18:46
Fiyameta, I too object a country which has nothing to do with the Red Sea to attend such meetings.
If Ethiopia has interest in the Red Sea then it needs to kiss Eritrea’s a’ss to protect its interests at the meetings, granted the ungrateful PM and the nut case Ethiopians stupid narratives we recently been hearing.
Trying to please the Ethiopians we are being attacked by some idiots including their mother fu’cker PM.
I know that Shaebia knows what it is doing, but as an individual Eritrean I am going to say my piece.
Some of the Ethiopians including the dumb a’ss low IQ Abiy need to be told to fu’cken respect Eritrea and its owns or else.
Yes, I completely agree with you, brother Cigar!

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Fiyameta » 14 Oct 2023, 19:04

We are not trying to please the Ethiopian politicians, but rather spare the Ethiopian people from lectures by their self-important politicians about the importance of water which we think is an insult to their intelligence. Perhaps PM Abiy's target audience was the Tigray people who desperately need such lectures in hope of finding a justification for the loss of their 1.5 million loved ones.

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Cigar » 14 Oct 2023, 19:25

Fiyameta, for what ever reason their PM or some of the Ethiopians are bullsh’tting it should not be at the cost of Eritrea. Eritrea should not be the subject of their scape goat.
Their freaking problem has nothing to do with their neighboring countries and they need to focus and fix their disagreements for their sake.
Man we been so freaking nice so much so we didn’t only say that a stable Ethiopia is good for the region and even lost our soldiers to defend their country from being overrun by woyane.
And rather than continuing what they been saying “Eritrea yewiltachin hager nat, we appreciate for helping us, for coming to our aid…” and all that fake crap to turn around and become ungrateful scum bags like woyane?
No we need to vocal and dare them to dare us.
We can’t be living walking on egg shells to plead these rats.
Enough is enough.
[deleted] them and fu’ck their country.
If they continue accusing us for trying to disintegrate them, I have something which is big they will regret.
Trust me on that.
Don’t push us. For your own sake.

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Zmeselo » 14 Oct 2023, 20:39



ይኸ ርጉም ከሀዲ ሺህ ዓመት ንገሥ ላለው ለአማራ ያልሆነ፣ ነፍሱን ላተረፉት ኤርትራውያን ያልሆነ ለማንም አይሆንም።

በወደብ የሚጫነው ሀብት ይኑረን እንጂ አሉላ አባነጋ:-

ዶሮን በማሽላ፣ ሀማሴንን በምህላ
(ማጥመድ ትችላለህ)

ያለላቸው ምህላ ጠባቂዎቹ ኤርትራውያን አሰብን ከቤተአምሐራ ሆነ ምፅዋን ከወልቃይት ለመጠቀም እንደማይከለክሉን እሙን ነው።

ባይበላ ይቅር እንጂ አማራ የዚህን በላዔሰብ ድስኩር አይሰማም፣ ጭራሽም እንጸየፈዋለን።

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Re: Egypt's Objection to Ethiopia's Inclusion in the Red Sea Forum Angered PM Abiy

Post by Abe Abraham » 14 Oct 2023, 21:50

Cigar wrote:
14 Oct 2023, 18:46


Fiyameta, I too object a country which has nothing to do with the Red Sea to attend such meetings.

If Ethiopia has interest in the Red Sea then it needs to kiss Eritrea’s a’ss to protect its interests at the meetings, granted the ungrateful PM and the nut case Ethiopians stupid narratives we recently been hearing.


Trying to please the Ethiopians we are being attacked by some idiots including their mother fu’cker PM.

I know that Shaebia knows what it is doing, but as an individual Eritrean I am going to say my piece.

Some of the Ethiopians including the dumb a’ss low IQ Abiy need to be told to fu’cken respect Eritrea and its owns or else.
They can not afford to operate outside human civilization. The dumb a'ss low IQ Abiy in the first place disrespects his own people.

Sudan, Somalia,Eritrea,Djibouti and Kenya do not like to see an animal like Abiy in their their surrounding.


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