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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 04 Sep 2023, 09:22

Zack wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 08:52
well its wrong what isis is doing first of all Yazidis didnt pledge an alligiance to isis , so its not lawfull, thats why its wrong Yazidis didnt do anything all to muslims or to isis hence why isis is in the wrong. But the prophet was hundred percent correct to punish the jews of Khaybar hundred percent treachery gets the death penalty any where in the world , the jews of Madina the hypocrits they were they said they are with the prophet and their alligiance is with them and then they conspired with the meccans led by abu sufyan , they collaborated betrayed their oath. Islam doesnt say just kill the innocent non muslims absolutely not for centuries non muslims have lived among muslims in various islamic empires. and they have lived in arabia also Hijaaz and najd, even during the prophe in peace , But when they became a threat to the Islamic Ummah led by the prophet and they beytrayed him even according to their jewish law death is the only solution. Cant compare to isis , who go on rampage and killing spree. . Context is evertything dear lad.

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I am not talking about breaking an oath but having the time and the audacity to have sex with a woman whom you killed her father, husband and brother? and his followers claim that he is the best of human kind? Where the fuckkk is the compassion? mercy? A 59 years descent man could have adopted the raise the girl and treat her like his own daughter but nah, Brother mohammed was so naughty he couldnt even wait for a week or day but he has to [deleted] her the same day he killed her close relatives.

Furthermore. The number 10 exclusive right of mohammed is, that Men should leave their wives or spouses if the "prophet" lay his eyes on their woman so that he can have sex with them.
: إِذَا وَقَعَ بَصَره عَلَى اِمْرَأَة وَجَبَ عَلَى زَوْجهَا طَلَاقهَا , وَحَلَّ لَهُ نِكَاحهَا If mohammed see any married woman he likes, her husband must divorce her immediately so that mohammed can have sex with her.
How does this kind of practice enhance humanity? Are you willing to leave your wife and the mother of your children if any prophet asked you to leave for him so that he could have sex with her? Does your honor allow you to do so?

Previously, I brought you a link from one Egyptian scholar from alazahar who claimed that to have sex with your deceased wife is Halal,,,Do you know where did he get the idea from? He got it from mohammed, the CEO of Islam.

37611 – عن ابن عباس قال : لما ماتت فاطمة أم علي خلع رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم قميصه وألبسها إياه واضطجع في قبرها فلما سوى عليها التراب قال بعضهم : يا رسول الله رأيناك صنعت شيئا لم تصنعه بأحد ؟ قال : إني ألبستها قميصي لتلبس من ثياب الجنة واضطجعت معها في قبرها لأخفف عنها من ضغطة القبر إنها كانت أحسن خلق الله صنيعا إلى بعد أبي طالب
Translation

Abbas said: When Fatima the mother of Ali died, Allah’s messenger cast off his shirt and wrapped his hands and had marital relations with her in her grave when the grave’s dirt was even. Some of them said: O Allah’s messenger! We see you doing something that nobody has done before. He said: Verily I have dressed her in my shirt that she would be dressed in the robes of heaven. I have had marital relations with her in her grave to lessen her from the pressure of (the punishment of) the grave. She was the first of Allah’s creation made after Abu Talib.

When mohammed was not even certain that he is going to Heaven, how can he promise that other people are going to Jenna if they get in touch with him is beyond me.

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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Zack » 04 Sep 2023, 09:57

First of all the prophet was certain that he was going to paredise along with all the othe prophet and second all prophets go automatically to heaven along side the noble men and also saints and the 10 sahabaas promised paradise.


First of all the prophet didnt force Safiya to marry her he gave clearly choose islam and beocme unde the shadow of the prophet and be the mother of believers or not convert to islam ,, and keep her judaism and be a free woman Safiya choose the former.



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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 04 Sep 2023, 10:03

Zack wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 09:57
First of all the prophet was certain that he was going to paredise along with all the othe prophet and second all prophets go automatically to heaven along side the noble men and also saints and the 10 sahabaas promised paradise.


First of all the prophet didnt force Safiya to marry her he gave clearly choose islam and beocme unde the shadow of the prophet and be the mother of believers or not convert to islam ,, and keep her judaism and be a free woman Safiya choose the former.

Dr Zackovich
Did mohammed preform any miracles? all prophets preformed miracles in their life time? where is the miracle of mohammed? even his conduct and his behavior is beneath of an average descent human being which is obsessed with sex in the life and after....

In regard to safiya, do you really believe that a woman who just lost her father, brother and husband is ready to sleep with a man who killed them the same night? Common sense brother! In regard to paradise, in my next episode, I am going to put forward a link on which mohammed never knew that he is going to paradise.

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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Zack » 04 Sep 2023, 10:09

The prophet name was written on the gates of the paredise so bring what ever u have

Yes the prophet Brought allot of Miracles


. The Miracle of Water Flowing From The Prophet’s Hands
On the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), the people became very thirsty. After completing the ablution, the people had rushed towards the Prophet ﷺ. He asked what was the matter with them. The replied that they had no water for ablution or drinking except a small pot of water which clearly wasn’t enough for them. So he then placed his hand into the pot and water started to flow from his fingers like a spring. Everyone drank and performed ablution that day.

“The people became very thirsty on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty). A small pot containing some water was in front of the Prophet (ﷺ) and when he had finished the ablution, the people rushed towards him. He asked, ‘What is wrong with you?’ They replied, ‘We have no water either for performing ablution or for drinking except what is present in front of you.’ So he placed his hand in that pot and the water started flowing among his fingers like springs. We all drank and performed ablution (from it).” I asked Jabir, “How many were you?” he replied, “Even if we had been one-hundred-thousand, it would have been sufficient for us, but we were fifteen-hundred.”


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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Abe Abraham » 04 Sep 2023, 12:14

Zack wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:09
The prophet name was written on the gates of the paredise so bring what ever u have

Yes the prophet Brought allot of Miracles


. The Miracle of Water Flowing From The Prophet’s Hands

On the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), the people became very thirsty. After completing the ablution, the people had rushed towards the Prophet ﷺ. He asked what was the matter with them. The replied that they had no water for ablution or drinking except a small pot of water which clearly wasn’t enough for them. So he then placed his hand into the pot and water started to flow from his fingers like a spring. Everyone drank and performed ablution that day.

“The people became very thirsty on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty). A small pot containing some water was in front of the Prophet (ﷺ) and when he had finished the ablution, the people rushed towards him. He asked, ‘What is wrong with you?’ They replied, ‘We have no water either for performing ablution or for drinking except what is present in front of you.’ So he placed his hand in that pot and the water started flowing among his fingers like springs. We all drank and performed ablution (from it).” I asked Jabir, “How many were you?” he replied, “Even if we had been one-hundred-thousand, it would have been sufficient for us, but we were fifteen-hundred.”


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Dr Shahrour says it didn't happen.




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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Fed_Up » 04 Sep 2023, 12:24

kerenite wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 16:54
Deqi-Arawit wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 15:25
An Arab/Muslim mother shared the reconciliation and hug of her children after they had a fight.



Watching this video, People with some simple basic common sense would have reacted to the video "OHHHHHHHH, sweet, they are displaying maturity at a young age. Bravo bravo". In contrast, this is how the lunatic muslims reacted to this innocent encounter between siblings.







They even claimed that "prophet" Mohammed forbids contact between sisters out of fear they might desire each other after they grow up..

What kind of sick society thinks that brothers and sisters are going to fuc@@ck each other if they start hugging and kissing each other when they were innocent children?
DeQi gelemele,

You know what I am visualizing, to kill 5 of your types and go to heaven and there 72 virgins will be waiting for me and that's what you know about islam and which is a sheer lie. If that is true why Christians remained as christians even in mecca in the 6th or 7th centuries why the real muslims who were adhering to koran didn't kill them in order to secure the 72 virgins?

You know what deQi gelemele, nature dictates it, if the Qoran taught me so, I would have killed you, your father, your mother and your loved ones but my big problem will be with the 72 virgins🙄 what the fuuck am I going to do with them?
Hey! I will be sitting in the middle and surrounded by them.

Hey deQi gelemele, if you will be around, I will be satisfied with one and the remaining 71 will belong to you.
Shirtamu proved right to ajejew. :oops: :oops: :oops:
Shirtamu is here talking about wife’s of someone who have never met before. Does ajejew has a point? Well, you can see Shirtamu aka the illiterate Muslim fanatics sick kerenait all previous conversation replied to this writer aka Fed_Up here in mereja. He had never passed without mentioned or fantasized about my spouse :oops: . I guess Ajejew, the fanatic Christian terrorist, has a point here. However, These two SOBs and sexually deprived individuals need to be admitted to a mental rehabilitation center.

I am just saying

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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 04 Sep 2023, 15:51

Zack wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:09
The prophet name was written on the gates of the paredise so bring what ever u have

Yes the prophet Brought allot of Miracles


. The Miracle of Water Flowing From The Prophet’s Hands
On the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), the people became very thirsty. After completing the ablution, the people had rushed towards the Prophet ﷺ. He asked what was the matter with them. The replied that they had no water for ablution or drinking except a small pot of water which clearly wasn’t enough for them. So he then placed his hand into the pot and water started to flow from his fingers like a spring. Everyone drank and performed ablution that day.

“The people became very thirsty on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty). A small pot containing some water was in front of the Prophet (ﷺ) and when he had finished the ablution, the people rushed towards him. He asked, ‘What is wrong with you?’ They replied, ‘We have no water either for performing ablution or for drinking except what is present in front of you.’ So he placed his hand in that pot and the water started flowing among his fingers like springs. We all drank and performed ablution (from it).” I asked Jabir, “How many were you?” he replied, “Even if we had been one-hundred-thousand, it would have been sufficient for us, but we were fifteen-hundred.”

Dr Zackovich
Here is the evidence that Even mohammed was not certain that he is going to enter Jenna aka paradise after his death,
reference Sahih al-Bukhari 7018

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7018


حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدَانُ، أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ، أَخْبَرَنَا مَعْمَرٌ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، عَنْ خَارِجَةَ بْنِ زَيْدِ بْنِ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ أُمِّ الْعَلاَء ِ ـ وَهْىَ امْرَأَةٌ مِنْ نِسَائِهِمْ بَايَعَتْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ قَالَتْ طَارَ لَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ مَظْعُونٍ فِي السُّكْنَى حِينَ اقْتَرَعَتِ الأَنْصَارُ عَلَى سُكْنَى الْمُهَاجِرِينَ، فَاشْتَكَى فَمَرَّضْنَاهُ حَتَّى تُوُفِّيَ، ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاهُ فِي أَثْوَابِهِ فَدَخَلَ عَلَيْنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقُلْتُ رَحْمَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكَ أَبَا السَّائِبِ، فَشَهَادَتِي عَلَيْكَ لَقَدْ أَكْرَمَكَ اللَّهُ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ وَمَا يُدْرِيكِ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ لاَ أَدْرِي وَاللَّهِ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ أَمَّا هُوَ فَقَدْ جَاءَهُ الْيَقِينُ، إِنِّي لأَرْجُو لَهُ الْخَيْرَ مِنَ اللَّهِ، وَاللَّهِ مَا أَدْرِي وَأَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ مَا يُفْعَلُ بِي وَلاَ بِكُمْ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَتْ أُمُّ الْعَلاَءِ فَوَاللَّهِ لاَ أُزَكِّي أَحَدًا بَعْدَهُ‏.‏ قَالَتْ وَرَأَيْتُ لِعُثْمَانَ فِي النَّوْمِ عَيْنًا تَجْرِي، فَجِئْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَذَكَرْتُ ذَلِكَ لَهُ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ ذَاكِ عَمَلُهُ يَجْرِي لَهُ ‏"‏
One Ansari woman witnessed a man whom she taken care off after he was ill but despite the effort he died, afterwards, The woman testified that Allah has honored the dead body on which Muhammed asked her, how does she knew that the man was honored by Allah, and she replied, I do not know by Allah, on which the prophet replied, 'As for him, death has come to him and I wish him all good from Allah. By Allah, though I am Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), I neither know what will happen to me, nor to you.'

And this is how Muhammed justified his inability to preform miracles as other prophets.

Narrated by Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا اللَّيْثُ، حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدٌ الْمَقْبُرِيُّ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ مَا مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ نَبِيٌّ إِلاَّ أُعْطِيَ مَا مِثْلُهُ آمَنَ عَلَيْهِ الْبَشَرُ، وَإِنَّمَا كَانَ الَّذِي أُوتِيتُ وَحْيًا أَوْحَاهُ اللَّهُ إِلَىَّ فَأَرْجُو أَنْ أَكُونَ أَكْثَرَهُمْ تَابِعًا يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ ‏"‏‏.‏
I emphasize with these words

مَا مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ نَبِيٌّ إِلاَّ أُعْطِيَ مَا مِثْلُهُ آمَنَ عَلَيْهِ الْبَشَرُ، وَإِنَّمَا كَانَ الَّذِي أُوتِيتُ وَحْيًا أَوْحَاهُ اللَّهُ ‏"‏‏.‏
Translation
Every Prophet was given miracles on which believed on their prophecy, but what I have been given was, Divine Inspiration which Allah has revealed to me.
He admits that he wouldn't preform miracles as other prophets who done so and people believed them, he explained that, his miracle was divine inspiration on which Allah revealed to him.

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Re: Why Do muslims sexualize every thing

Post by Zack » 04 Sep 2023, 16:35

First of all this is a misrepresentation of the Hadith it self

Quran and Hadith by Non-Muslims

Christian missionaries and atheists argue that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was not certain about his own salvation according to Islamic sources. They put forth one Qur'anic verse and one hadith as proof for this. They are:

Surah 46:9
Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do i know what will be done with me or with you. I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."

Saheeh Bukhari
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 266:
Narrated 'Um al-'Ala:
An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. 'Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um al-'Ala's family), 'Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Apostle! But who else is worthy of it (if not 'Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me," By Allah, I will never assert the piety of anyone after him. That made me sad, and when I slept I saw in a dream a flowing stream for 'Uthman bin Maz'un. I went to Allah's Apostle and told him of it. He remarked, "That symbolizes his (good) deeds."

The first possible solution is that the Qur'anic verse and statement of the Prophet (peace be upon him) came before the Prophet (peace be upon him) knew that he was going to paradise.

As for his expression "By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me", the Prophet (peace be upon him) uttered this in accordance with Allah's statement in Surah Al Ahqaaf "Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do i know what will be done with me or with you". This was before the revealing of the verse by Allah All Mighty "That Allah may forgive you your sins of the past and the future" (Surah 48:2) because Al Ahqaaf is a Makkan Surah, while Surah Al Fatah is a Madinan Surah and there is no contradiction between the two of them. And it has been established that he (peace be upon him) said "I am the first who will enter paradise" and there other reports which convey this meaning as well. So it is possible to sustain this (i.e. the fact that the Prophet doesn't know) on knowledge in a general sense, but negating the inclusiveness of the particulars.
Source :
Kitab: Al Janaaiz, Bab: Al Dukhool 'Ala Al Mayyit Ba'd Al Mawt izhaa Adraja fi Akfaanihi,commentary on Hadith no. 1166,

Imam Tabari in his commentary quotes Qatadah saying:

"Nor do I know what will be done with me or with you", then he (peace be upon him) knew from Allah after that what he would do with him, for Allah said "Verily, We have given you (O Muhammad SAW) a manifest victory. That Allah may forgive you your sins of the past and the future" (Surah 48:1-2)
Source :
(Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, Jami' al-bayan fi ta'wil al-Qur'an, Commentary on Surah 46:9,)

So we see that the first possible solution is that the Prophet (peace be upon him) expressed his ignorance of what will happen to him in the next life before he received revelation from Allah that stated that he would be going to paradise. The second soultion for this is that Muhammad talks about the the wordly life.

Tafsir Al Jalalayn states:

Say: 'I am not a novelty, unprecedented, among the messengers, that is to say, the first to be sent [by God as His Messenger]. Already many of them have come before me, so how can you deny me? Nor do I know what will be done with me or with you, in this world: will I be made to leave my [native] land, or will I be slain as was done with [some] prophets before me, or will you stone me to death, or will the earth be made to swallow you as [it did] deniers before you? I only follow what is revealed to me, that is, the Qur'ān, and I do not invent anything myself. And I am only a plain warner', one whose warning is plain.
Source : (Tafsir Al Jalalayn, Commentary on Surah 46:9)

Confirming Muhammad's salvation

Al-Bukhari narrated that Prophet Muhammad, said:
"I and the custodian of an orphan are like this (together) in Paradise", and he joined his forefinger and middle finger together." This is also. The truth that the prophet new his destiny

" After the passing of the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- from this world Abu Bakr said to the Companions: "I asked Allah's Messenger what basic thing was necessary for salvation and he replied that whoever accepts the Word which I brought and which I offered to my uncle Abu Talib and which he rejected: this Word constitutes salvation for him."
Related by Ahmad (1:6), Tabarani in al-Awsat, Tayalisi in his Musnad, Ibn Sa`d in his Tabaqat (2/2:84-85), Abu Ya`la, Ibn Abi Shayba, Bayhaqi in Shu`ab al-iman

Ibn Kathîr quotes a number of Hadîth [an-Nihayah, 2/213] that state this such as the report of Muslim from Anas (ra) according to which the Messenger of Allâh (saw) said,
"I will be the first one to knock at the gates of Paradise".

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