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Re: Oromos are also raising their own claim on the land of the W....

Post by kibramlak » 12 Jul 2023, 10:04

የቆጡን አወርድ ብላ የብብቷን ጣለች

ችግር የለውም፣ ጥያቄ በጥያቄ ይመለሳል ታሪክን ካጣቀስን
ኃይልም በሀይል ይመለሳል

ኪስህ ውስጥ ያለ እስክርቢቶ ሙቀት ሲበዛበት ይገነፍልና ልብስህን ያበላሻል

ከገባህ ስለምን እንደማወራ ታውቃለህ

አካፋን ኡካፋ የምንልበት ጊዜ ስለሆነ አትጨነቅ






DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 12:02
even if it is just on the air so far.

If you read the initial W for Wollega, then you missed it. It is to the north and stands for Wollo. We might be forgiven for assuming that a referendum over there down the road could be anticipated.


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Re: Oromos are also raising their own claim on the land of the W....

Post by Sadacha Macca » 12 Jul 2023, 16:33

Abere, the angry Oromo hater;

Yes, if it does not agree with your view, it must be ''OLF wild fiction.''
As if these historians, who were there long before ''OLF'' existed, time travelled to when the ''OLF fiction'' was created, and then put it in their books.
Aha, yes, that makes sense.

Yes, Oromo's conquered and expanded, like every other nation, the same way the Amara expanded and conquered new lands, the tigrayans, the somalis, the afar, and many others.
We know that the Amara emperors expanded from what was traditionally their lands-a tiny enclave in the north, to what became the Ethiopian Empire.
Your problem is, the Oromo came and competed for lands that they conquered, along with the Somali's who competed with both of these groups, to a lesser extent, since they do not traditionally inhabit highlands.
Those ''indigenous Amhara'' came as conquerors too, whether it is earlier than when we Oromo's came or not, is a topic up for debate.
Warra-Himano has been the name for as long as we know it; if the Amara there wanted to change it, why didn't they then? Since it's their land without a dispute, according to you?
For the record, I am not even claming it as Oromoland, but saying we have an undeniable presence there, whether you like it or not.
We can go with the theory that the amara were there first, that's cool; but we know they came there as part of an expansion too; they were not just magically always living all over what is known as ethiopia since time immemorial, their ancestors came from somewhere too and migrated-just like the Oromo's that you denigrate here.

Mammadoch could claim to descend from Australia, if they wanted; it doesn't change that it was established by Oromo warriors, and was led by Oromo warriors in central Wallo.
Muhammad Ali, who was forcefully Christianized by the fanatical emperor(s), was identified as an Oromo, but those who are so filled with hate and fear of the Oromo, would not like to see admit that these historical figures/prominent figures belonged to a nation that they hate (the Oromo).

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Re: Oromos are also raising their own claim on the land of the W....

Post by Noble Amhara » 12 Jul 2023, 17:04

Bla bla bla bla you jimman thief still ungratful flor the land u already have trying to steal our mountians 😂 greedy mzfkr we. Can claim all of shewa cause thats our name ante leba our amhara warriors ruled it since 1270 and re-estabilished it in 1700s shewa is 90% christian because of us and they have our DNA from our historical presence. Bereddaa title never goes to anythimg south of ziway lake and anything west of nekemete. When u guys say bereda it mean habesha. :lol:

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Re: Oromos are also raising their own claim on the land of the W....

Post by Abere » 12 Jul 2023, 17:15

Sad,

---- Again, I do not hate Oromo; I do not favor Amhara over Oromo. So, do not I favor Oromo over Amhara and intentionally distort history just to please some by making lies. After all, by accident of history, these two groups are here until the end of the world. All this sh!t came only because of OLF and its fanatics who salivate on everything aspiring to deprive others the right to live in peace.

----- Since you mentioned and blamed Atse Yohanne for forcefully converted Negus Michael. I guess this is too much exaggerated. There was so much willingness of the Negus to be involved in this. For instance, why did Abiy Ahmed converted from being Muslim to Penete, which sounds even very weird. Did you know Nigus Michael was also King of Tigray province?



Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 16:33
Abere, the angry Oromo hater;

Yes, if it does not agree with your view, it must be ''OLF wild fiction.''
As if these historians, who were there long before ''OLF'' existed, time travelled to when the ''OLF fiction'' was created, and then put it in their books.
Aha, yes, that makes sense.

Yes, Oromo's conquered and expanded, like every other nation, the same way the Amara expanded and conquered new lands, the tigrayans, the somalis, the afar, and many others.
We know that the Amara emperors expanded from what was traditionally their lands-a tiny enclave in the north, to what became the Ethiopian Empire.
Your problem is, the Oromo came and competed for lands that they conquered, along with the Somali's who competed with both of these groups, to a lesser extent, since they do not traditionally inhabit highlands.
Those ''indigenous Amhara'' came as conquerors too, whether it is earlier than when we Oromo's came or not, is a topic up for debate.
Warra-Himano has been the name for as long as we know it; if the Amara there wanted to change it, why didn't they then? Since it's their land without a dispute, according to you?
For the record, I am not even claming it as Oromoland, but saying we have an undeniable presence there, whether you like it or not.
We can go with the theory that the amara were there first, that's cool; but we know they came there as part of an expansion too; they were not just magically always living all over what is known as ethiopia since time immemorial, their ancestors came from somewhere too and migrated-just like the Oromo's that you denigrate here.

Mammadoch could claim to descend from Australia, if they wanted; it doesn't change that it was established by Oromo warriors, and was led by Oromo warriors in central Wallo.
Muhammad Ali, who was forcefully Christianized by the fanatical emperor(s), was identified as an Oromo, but those who are so filled with hate and fear of the Oromo, would not like to see admit that these historical figures/prominent figures belonged to a nation that they hate (the Oromo).

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Re: Oromos are also raising their own claim on the land of the W....

Post by Sadacha Macca » 12 Jul 2023, 19:08

Noble tigrayan, once you stop pretending to be an Amara, I can take you seriously. Otherwise, you're just an actor playing a role (union/present/noble ''amhara''/tesfanews/abdeaziz/etc).


Abere, it's okay, it's obvious that you dislike (to say the least) the Oromo's. You don't have to like us, I prefer a honest enemy to a lying friend.
OLF itself isn't an extremist group, but there are extremist elements amongst it, the same way you have extremist elements amongst amara nationalists, tigrayan nationalists, somali nationalists, etc. When you only focus on one side, while ignoring the other sides, then it becomes obvious you're not being fair/just/impartial/etc.
Abiy represents a small group of elites, not us, and his entire career has been based on serving the enemies of the oromo masses in particular; so do not expect me to defend him.

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