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[Noble Amhara]

Today I saw tigrinya speakers I could not tell which one is Eritrean and which one is Tigrayan. it was like seeing Gondere and Gojame and trying to tell the difference. The difference is gondere gojame amhara are united while the tigrinya are divided it is like they are family divided by a sports team

[Axumezana]

I did some research on this issue and my findings are below. Over all it is like the rivalry between English and French .


https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... n#p1396618

[tarik]

Today I saw tigrinya speakers I could not tell which one is Eritrean and which one is Tigrayan. it was like seeing Gondere and Gojame and trying to tell the difference. The difference is gondere gojame amhara are united while the tigrinya are divided it is like they are family divided by a sports team

Agame not noble amhara Aka union agame. In my Eritrea we z tiginya speakers r called deqi kebessa and in ur Cursed-Land-Tigray ur agame ppl speak agaminya Aka a mixture of amhara,galla language and Git nothing 2 do with us Eritreans delqi kebessa. Some agames who lived or grew up in my Eritrea and were deported 2 their Cursed-Land-Tigray bring our pure kebessa tigrinya 2 their Cursed-Land-Tigray, but after they live a couple of years in Cursed-Land-Tigray their kebessa tigrinya of Eritrea changes 2 agaminy of Cursed-Land-Tigray. We r Eritreans and u r agamez from Cursed-Land-Tigray. Nice try agame boy.

[Noble Amhara]

english and french is to big of a comparison they are separate islands with distinct people I can tell a English from a French their faces are different their language religion and culture are different.

Tigrinyas speak around 80-90% same language as the other and their accents are hard to distinguish. I think I may have seen a Adwan because their tigrinya is closer to Eritrean

[eden]

Significant number of the two tigrians love to hate each other and kill each other even by allying with outsiders against one another. This hurts not only the divided Tigrian family but it bleeds the non Tigrian Eritreans and non Tigrian Ethiopians and beyond by inviting them to their wars. I think mainly Tigrians called the shots to start and widen the 1998 and the recent war but all paid the price. Only when Asmara and Mekelle both decided on war, the wars happened.

Somalis, Afars, Kurds, Serbs, Croats etc etc wish to be one. But the two aigames wish to get away from each other, this is evident even on this forum. This is pure stupidity and it’s origin probably has to do with 50 years of Italian colonization which messed up the integrity of the Tigrigna speaking family on both sides of the Mereb.

[Abere]

Well, mere similarity of speaking same language does not mean two groups (ethnic, religion, region, etc.) are similar. There are dozens of countries that speak English, but they are not Great Britain. As far as I can say, there is substantial differnce between Tigre and Eritrean, the pyscho-social attitude Eritreans for centurries Eritreans have toward Tigre is very diffent from the liguistical surface level. I also read or heard from many people, Eritrean Tigrigna is diffent from Tigres Tigrigna. That means there is potentail communication barrier.

Today I saw tigrinya speakers I could not tell which one is Eritrean and which one is Tigrayan. it was like seeing Gondere and Gojame and trying to tell the difference. The difference is gondere gojame amhara are united while the tigrinya are divided it is like they are family divided by a sports team

[Noble Amhara]

you are talking from internet information not real life experience go and see them you will not know who is hamasien serae akele tembien or agame or adwa or enderta all this hate politics just destroyed their region

Well, mere similarity of speaking same language does not mean two groups (ethnic, religion, region, etc.) are similar. There are dozens of countries that speak English, but they are not Great Britain. As far as I can say, there is substantial differnce between Tigre and Eritrean, the pyscho-social attitude Eritreans for centurries Eritreans have toward Tigre is very diffent from the liguistical surface level. I also read or heard from many people, Eritrean Tigrigna is diffent from Tigres Tigrigna. That means there is potentail communication barrier.

Today I saw tigrinya speakers I could not tell which one is Eritrean and which one is Tigrayan. it was like seeing Gondere and Gojame and trying to tell the difference. The difference is gondere gojame amhara are united while the tigrinya are divided it is like they are family divided by a sports team

[Axumezana]

One may think the Tigrayans in Eritrea and in Ethiopia are closer than the French and the English. The answer is no they speak same Tigrigna with some different dialects but in terms of the inner man( the software ) , they are totally different thanks to the Italy who had changed the software of Eritreans . So we can say that Eritrean Tigrayans are victims of colonial sychological and cultural re-engineering with their own fake identity.

[eden]

Aberu, like almost all Ethiopian elites, thinks the division of the Tigrian is beneficial to non Tigrians. The fact is the Asmera - Mekelle split is the source of wars and poverty to all. I have advanced this argument to non Tigrian folks before and they look at me like I’m totally out of my mind. They counter argue the split is necessary to bring peace and development. I say they are crazy.

[Abere]

I guess you misunderstood me. I do not hold any divisive intention as if this could benefit other non-Tigre groups, both those in Eritrea and Ethiopia. At the same time, it is also unnecessary to make a rhetorical pitch for the sake of oneness while there are quite marked different sub-culture of Tigres. Even in Tigray, there are Tigri and Tigrawi, let alone including Eritrea. I heard people indicating the Tigrigna of Tigray provinces is a hybrid of Amharic and Eritrea Tigrigna, that means there is difference in some percentages of the traits of their languages. Whether that difference is statistically significant, I do not know. Research has to prove it.

Aberu, like almost all Ethiopian elites, thinks the division of the Tigrian is beneficial to non Tigrians. The fact is the Asmera - Mekelle split is the source of wars and poverty to all. I have advanced this argument to non Tigrian folks before and they look at me like I’m totally out of my mind. They counter argue the split is necessary to bring peace and development. I say they are crazy.

[eden]

unnecessary to make a rhetorical pitch for the sake of oneness while there are quite marked different sub-culture of Tigres.

But you forward that same pitch all day everyday when it comes to the oneness of the good people of shoa wollo gojam & gonder regardless of the existence of local differences. Did research prove that there are no marked sub culture differences? lol

[Abere]

If Tigres were the same people as Eritreans, why would Eritrea accept them as part of their society with sense of oneness? I guess it is the Tigres that frequently makes such a pitch but unwelcome by Eritrea. Where is that similarity!?

unnecessary to make a rhetorical pitch for the sake of oneness while there are quite marked different sub-culture of Tigres.

But you forward that same pitch all day everyday when it comes to the oneness of the good people of shoa wollo gojam & gonder regardless of the existence of local differences. Did research prove it one way or the other? why your principle shifts? lol

[eden]

If Tigres were the same people as Eritreans,

The claim is not Tigrians from Ethiopia are same people as Eritreans. The claim is Tigrians from Ethiopia are same people as Tigrians from Eritrea.

There is long list of Tigrians from Eritrea who advocate the oneness of Tigrians. This doesn’t mean one country necessarily. You would know that if you follow Eritreans.

[Noble Amhara]

Historiclly their may have been migration from Eritrea highlands into Tigray

For example how did Eritean Tigrinya take over Geez Axum?

This is evidence of migration from the north towards the south. Tigrinya being born in Eritrea around Asmara spreading south since the fall of axum into Ethiopia northern habesha clans creating modern day tigray