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Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 07:10

Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

The Oromo liberation movement has achieved under the last three regimes three key victories, respectively one victory under each of them: under Derg, we got back our land from the feudals, during Woyane rule, we decided to use Afaan Oromo at regional level and now we persuaded Biltsigona to support the ongoing liberation of Oromumma from domination of Amharanet in Orthodox church. The best and highest victory, which is yet to be achieved, ist the expected promotion of Afaan Oromo to primary working language of all federal institutions by replacing Amharigna. I don’t think that both Dr. Abiy and Ob. Shimelis have the necessary boldness and gut to push so far. In case they do, I will be the first to say welcome back from the bloc keeping the hitherto domination of Amharanet to the camp struggling for liberation of Oromumma. Otherwise, they really did good job by dismantling the domination of Amharanet in Orthodox church. Promotion of Afaan Oromo and the accordingly completion of our liberation struggle will be fulfilled by Oromo republicans under leadership of the OLF in near future.
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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 07:44

Further more, it is good to observe that the ruling pro-Amharanet prosperitans are devided and they already started to fight each other. These Oromo prosperitans, who are determined to keep the existing domination of Amharanet/Amharigna are now accusing each other. One group led by Abiy Ahmed is accused as regionalist, which is committed to divide the Oromo based on regions in order to weaken the Oromo nationsl struggle for freedom. The other group led by Shimelis Abdissa is crimincriminalized of corruption and extrajudicial killings. The war between the two factions of the ruling pro-Amharanet dictators is going on. Both these anti- Oromumma groups are trying to win support and sympathy of Oromo people, which they surely never get. To attain this support, one of them may start to promote Afaan Oromo or Oromumma to its legitimate leadership position in Ethiopia (Great Oromia). But, the burning question is, who of the two has such gut and try to be the first?

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 08:11

Otherwise, none of the existing Oromo organization has got optimal solution for the Oromo question. For instance, both ODF and OLF didn’t yet get an optimal solution for the unique situation of the Oromo. Union Ethiopia (multinational federation) of ODF is good for minority at the center (mac) and an independent Oromia of OLF is nice for minority at the periphery (map). Oromo nation is neither mac nor map, but majority over all (moa) of the country. An optimal solution thus can be just taking over the whole state of Ethiopia and name it Oromia. Let other nations have their right to self-determination from the Oromo, be it in ODF’s model or OLF’s style.

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Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 09:03

For the Oromo, our moa politics should concentrate on realizing Great Oromia (democratized Ethiopia), where Afaan Oromo will be primary working language of the union and the whole country be named Oromia, instead of Ethiopia. Thus, Oromo’s strategy should be to dismantle the empire state, foster a union state & give an own state for others, if they want. Secession is not and can not be Oromo’s agenda. The Oromo are unique in the globe to be dominated as a majority nation all over the country and having political center of the empire as its own capital. So, all the five moves undertaken by Oromo nationalists till now are not optimal solutions for such unique situation:

1. Ob. Lamma Magarsaa working with the hegemonists,

2. Ob. Andargachew struggling together with the unitarists,

3. Gn. Kamal opting for an independent Gadaa Oromia,

4. Ob. Dawud asking for referendum on ‘independent Oromia vs union Ethiopia’ and

5. Ob. Leencoo choosing union Ethiopia

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 10:51

These are not best solutions for the Oromo. Oromo people, as the majority all over the country, need to takeover the state power in Caffee Araara palace of Finfinne and then dismantle the empire system, foster union state called Oromia and give right to self-determination up to forging their own independent state for other nations, who are far away from the political center – Finfinne, including for Bahirdar of Amhara state and Maqale of Tegaru state!

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

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እግዚአብሄር እንደት አድርጎ ጅል አድርጎ ቢፈጥርህ ነው? የወላድ ማህጸን ስንቱን ያፈራል፡ - ዘጠኝ ወር ይህን የመሰለ ጅል አርግዞ ይሸከማል። The most cr@py post in this forum comes from this fool
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10 Feb 2023, 10:51
These are not best solutions for the Oromo. Oromo people, as the majority all over the country, need to takeover the state power in Caffee Araara palace of Finfinne and then dismantle the empire system, foster union state called Oromia and give right to self-determination up to forging their own independent state for other nations, who are far away from the political center – Finfinne, including for Bahirdar of Amhara state and Maqale of Tegaru state!

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Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 11:03

Regarding Oromo’s unique colonial situation and the necessary optimal solution, we know that there were many colonized or dominated nations in the globe to be compared. All wanted to be liberated from subjugation and demanded their right to self-determination. There are five types of such nations and the Oromo are unique having our own situation not shared by any other nation in the world. The five groups are:

1. those colonized by oversee colonizers like Europeans subjugating Africans. The solution for such domination was an external self-dertermination in a sense of complete independence. Some Oromo nationals try to equate Oromo’s situation with this and demand an independent republic of Gadaa Oromia without necessarily having referendum. OLF of Ob. Galasaa Dilbo chose this way. But is Oromia colonized by oversee nation to apply such solution?

2. minority nations at the periphery dominated by the centeral power; e.g Eritrea, South Sudan, Kosovo, East Timor, Ogaden…etc. The required self-determination was defined as having referendum on: ‘independence from the political center’ vs ‘post freedom political union with the center’. Ob. Dawud Ibsa’s OLF is following this approach. But is Oromia at periphery not to affect self-determination right of others by excercising its own. North Ethiopia and South Ethiopia will be separated without their free will just if the Oromo decide for our independence.

3. minority nations at the center under domination of another nation; e.g the Gurage, Harari, Hadiya, Kambata…etc. For such nations, good solution is internal self-determination within a union by getting rid of the system of domination and achieving self-rule within shared rule, without necessary referendum. ODF of Ob. Leencoo Lataa and OFC of Dr. Marara wanted to apply such solution. But are the Oromo such minority at the center?

4. major nation with dominating culture, but being exploited and oppressed by its own internal dictators and tyrants. Such nations usually struggle to get rid of their own subjugators, thus concentrate more on freedom struggle in a sense of dismantling the system and replace it with possibly democratic States and justice for all peoples in the country without considering right of nations to self-determination, be it external or internal. AG7 of Ob. Andargachew Tsige (also an Oromo) being influenced by Amhara elites with dominating culture and language in the country belongs here. But does this serve an interest of Oromo nation with hitherto dominated (not dominating) culture and language?

5. minority nation dominating the politcal center but masked as an inclusive multi-national force and formally accepting self-rule of nations, though in reality following very tight centeralist party rule. The TPLF regime followed this deceptiv move and OPDO of Ob. Lammaa Magarsaa working with this group surely served only an interest of the hegemonist minority Tigrean elites.

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 11:55

The Oromo as major nation at the center or all over the country being dominated by smaller neighbouring nation was unique condition, which required unique solution. There is no such big nation, where the political center is its own center, but politically marginalized and colonized in the world; the Oromo must be the only one. Such unique situation required unique solution. The above five approachs are not optimal. The optimal approach here should be to liberate the center (Caffee Araara of Finfinne) and take over the state machinary in order to transform the empire into a union; if necessary, changing flag of the federation, language of the union and name of the country. Then the Oromo can allow others to have their self-determination in above three ways (autonomy, referendum or independence). The Oromo should act as future giver of those rights, not as reciever from the minor nations, be it from Amhara of Bahirdar or Tegaru of Maqale. May Waaqa open our eyes to see an optimal solution for our unique situaion! Sure is that both the Premier and the President have no gut to accomplish this unique solution for the unique situation of the Oromo. Who then will be bold enough to do it?

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by Union » 10 Feb 2023, 13:01

He is agame tplf. What do you expect? Tplf is a pure devil

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እግዚአብሄር እንደት አድርጎ ጅል አድርጎ ቢፈጥርህ ነው? የወላድ ማህጸን ስንቱን ያፈራል፡ - ዘጠኝ ወር ይህን የመሰለ ጅል አርግዞ ይሸከማል። The most cr@py post in this forum comes from this fool
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10 Feb 2023, 10:51
These are not best solutions for the Oromo. Oromo people, as the majority all over the country, need to takeover the state power in Caffee Araara palace of Finfinne and then dismantle the empire system, foster union state called Oromia and give right to self-determination up to forging their own independent state for other nations, who are far away from the political center – Finfinne, including for Bahirdar of Amhara state and Maqale of Tegaru state!

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by Abere » 10 Feb 2023, 13:10

You are 1000% correct! :mrgreen:
union wrote:
10 Feb 2023, 13:01
He is agame tplf. What do you expect? Tplf is a pure devil

Abere wrote:
10 Feb 2023, 10:57
እግዚአብሄር እንደት አድርጎ ጅል አድርጎ ቢፈጥርህ ነው? የወላድ ማህጸን ስንቱን ያፈራል፡ - ዘጠኝ ወር ይህን የመሰለ ጅል አርግዞ ይሸከማል። The most cr@py post in this forum comes from this fool
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10 Feb 2023, 10:51
These are not best solutions for the Oromo. Oromo people, as the majority all over the country, need to takeover the state power in Caffee Araara palace of Finfinne and then dismantle the empire system, foster union state called Oromia and give right to self-determination up to forging their own independent state for other nations, who are far away from the political center – Finfinne, including for Bahirdar of Amhara state and Maqale of Tegaru state!

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 10 Feb 2023, 13:49

Further more, it is good to observe that the ruling pro-Amharanet prosperitans are devided and they already started to fight each other. These Oromo prosperitans, who were determined to keep the existing domination of Amharanet/Amharigna are now accusing each other. One group led by Abiy Ahmed is accused as regionalist, which is committed to divide the Oromo based on regions in order to weaken the Oromo nationsl struggle for freedom. The other group led by Shimelis Abdissa is criminalized of corruption and extrajudicial killings. The war between the two factions of the ruling pro-Amharanet dictators is going on. Both these hitherto anti- Oromumma groups are trying to win support and sympathy of Oromo people, which they surely never get. To attain this support, one of them may start to promote Afaan Oromo or Oromumma to its legitimate leadership position in Ethiopia (Great Oromia). But, the burning question is, who of the two has such gut and try to be the first? IT seems, now both are trying and Shimelis’ group Sounds more serious.

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Re: Welcome Back Premier Abiy Ahmed and President Shimelis Abdissa from Pro-Amharanet Bloc to Pro-Oromumma Camp!

Post by OPFist » 11 Feb 2023, 07:34

Otherwise, none of the existing Oromo organization has got optimal solution for the Oromo question. For instance, both OFC and OLF didn’t yet get an optimal solution for the unique situation of the Oromo. Union Ethiopia (multinational federation) of OFC is good for minority at the center (mac) and an independent Oromia of OLF is nice for minority at the periphery (map). Oromo nation is neither mac nor map, but majority over all (moa) of the country. An optimal solution thus can be just taking over the whole state of Ethiopia and name it Oromia. Let other nations have their right to self-determination from the Oromo, be it in OFC’s model or OLF’s style.

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Post by OPFist » 11 Feb 2023, 17:40

For the Oromo, our moa politics should concentrate on realizing Great Oromia (democratized Ethiopia), where Afaan Oromo will be primary working language of the union and the whole country be named Oromia, instead of Ethiopia. Thus, Oromo’s strategy should be to dismantle the empire state, foster a union state & give an own state for others, if they want. Secession is not and can not be Oromo’s agenda. The Oromo are unique in the globe to be dominated as a majority nation all over the country and having political center of the empire as its own capital. So, all the five moves undertaken by Oromo nationalists till now are not optimal solutions for such unique situation:

1. Dr. Nagaasso working with the hegemonists,

2. Ob. Andargachew being together with the unitarists,

3. Ob Galaasa opting for an independent Gadaa Oromia,

4. Ob. Dawud asking for referendum on ‘independent Oromia vs union Ethiopia’ and

5. Ob. Leencoo choosing union Ethiopia

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