Mereja.Forum

[Misraq]

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The ወጠጤ young agames particularly those in Baitona, Wedib and a few other groups are more radicals than the old gaurd TPLF. The old gaurd TPLF cannot command and control order in this young radicals who were thought to hate only. Now, they started to bite their own makers by refusing to surrender TPLF accepted.

The ወጠጤ have majority diaspora support while their support in Tigray is not confirmed yet. If we have to speculate little known response onmedias, tegarus are releived and happy about the long awaited peace and the benefit it brings.

Based on the above we can predict that a faction of TPLF that it will call itself TDF will continue guerella attempts and noise of agame narsassists in diaspora will double but this time with deaf ear from their main big time enablers (western officials). They will continue to get media attention from the prostitute media's like CNN and NYTimes

[DefendTheTruth]

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The ወጠጤ young agames particularly those in Baitona, Wedib and a few other groups are more radicals than the old gaurd TPLF. The old gaurd TPLF cannot command and control order in this young radicals who were thought to hate only. Now, they started to bite their own makers by refusing to surrender TPLF accepted.

The ወጠጤ have majority diaspora support while their support in Tigray is not confirmed yet. If we have to speculate little known response onmedias, tegarus are releived and happy about the long awaited peace and the benefit it brings.

Based on the above we can predict that a faction of TPLF that it will call itself TDF will continue guerella attempts and noise of agame narsassists in diaspora will double but this time with deaf ear from their main big time enablers (western officials). They will continue to get media attention from the prostitute media's like CNN and NYTimes

In case it is true, then this reminds me of the recent story of the former OPDO and current PP-Oromia on one side and the confused Oromo diaspora on the other, which fought fiercely over the entity called itself "Qeerroo" and the PP-O owned it 100 % at the end, sending the confused Oromo diaspora activists empty handed home to rest.

The two camps you mentioned are fighting over the entity calling itself TDF, which is founded and nurtured by no one else but TPLF itself, from which it has been taking the order in all of its existence, in the same way Qeerroo was taking order from the then OPDO.

The confused Diaspora, be it from the Tigreans or Oromos, or anybody else for that matter, make some monetary contributions and some lengthy youtube videos as "analysts" and think to own those back home.

Those back home tell them repeatedly that your role is "support" not "leading" but it is not easy to get it down the skulls of the confused mobs in the western streets.

[Abere]

In other words, you are saying the cease fire is very fragile , even if PP wants it so badly, right? The biggest prize all Tigre wanted is Humera, Welqait and Raya given to them on a silver plate. Is this their sticking point? I guess the Tigres know the war is far from over, because Amhara rejected the negotiation and they wanted to be armed with missiles and all the latest equipment dropped to them by air. They may be faking, because last time Bacha Debele and Abiy Ahmed said all military equipment is taken out Tigray, but Bacha and Abiy were either wrong or made intentional lie. TPLF later outmatched ENDF in terms of military equipment. There is no way to account what TPLF rag tags have. Tigray is a black hole. The agreement is just fake, it will not last. I advise Amhara to stay armed and vigilant, stand on their ground. They already gave their middle finger to the South Africa drama.

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The ወጠጤ young agames particularly those in Baitona, Wedib and a few other groups are more radicals than the old gaurd TPLF. The old gaurd TPLF cannot command and control order in this young radicals who were thought to hate only. Now, they started to bite their own makers by refusing to surrender TPLF accepted.

The ወጠጤ have majority diaspora support while their support in Tigray is not confirmed yet. If we have to speculate little known response onmedias, tegarus are releived and happy about the long awaited peace and the benefit it brings.

Based on the above we can predict that a faction of TPLF that it will call itself TDF will continue guerella attempts and noise of agame narsassists in diaspora will double but this time with deaf ear from their main big time enablers (western officials). They will continue to get media attention from the prostitute media's like CNN and NYTimes

[Za-Ilmaknun]

Whether TPLF agrees with itself is something that we have no say about. One thing that is crystal clear however, is there will be no TPLF that will be a danger to anyone in the region as it has been for the last 30 years. After having close to a million youth perished within two years is something they are unwilling to learn from, then they will learn nothing at all.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

I understand the agreement might be hard to swallow to some diehard TPLF supporters. But they have to be pragmatic. The war was almost completed before the negotiation began. There might be some misinformation campaign going on for a while, but that changes nothing. Finally, peace is prevailed, and that is a fact.

[Horus]

When the two parties went to South Africa, each has its own unique objectives. In other words, PP & TPLF did not come to agreement for the same reason. In my view, the driving need on the part of TLF is accessing economic social services to Tigray. The only way to accessing Ethiopian resources into Tigray was to to concede to some of PP's demands. TPLF doesn't have the need to disarm itself and return to farming.

On the part of PP, its driving need is not a love of governing Tigray. PP's needs are military; that is, it wants to degrade the war making abilities of TPLF (TDF). If you closely follow public and official comments on the deal, the Tigray side talks about social services and economic recovery while the PP side talks about disarmament and dissolution of TPLF.

In short, TPLF/TDF wants Ethiopian resources while keeping it military strength and Abiy Ahmed want to disarm TDF and establish its authority over Tigray. የተስማሙት ለተመሳሳይ ምክንያት አይደለም። ይህ ነው የስምምነቱ መሰረታዊ ችግር! እንደዚህ ባለ ስምምነት ኮንሴሽን መሰጣጠት ያለ ቢሆንም ውሎ ሲያድር buyer's remorse የሚባለው ነገር ይመጣል ። ያም ማለት ስምምነቱን አለመቀበልን ያስከትላል ።

[Za-Ilmaknun]

When the two parties went to South Africa, each has its own unique objectives. In other words, PP & TPLF did not come to agreement for the same reason. In my view, the driving need on the part of TLF is accessing economic social services to Tigray. The only way to accessing Ethiopian resources into Tigray was to to concede to some of PP's demands. TPLF doesn't have the need to disarm itself and return to farming.

On the part of PP, its driving need is not a love of governing Tigray. PP's needs are military; that is, it wants to degrade the war making abilities of TPLF (TDF). If you closely follow public and official comments on the deal, the Tigray side talks about social services and economic recovery while the PP side talks about disarmament and dissolution of TPLF.

In short, TPLF/TDF wants Ethiopian resources while keeping it military strength and Abiy Ahmed want to disarm TDF and establish its authority over Tigray. የተስማሙት ለተመሳሳይ ምክንያት አይደለም። ይህ ነው የስምምነቱ መሰረታዊ ችግር! እንደዚህ ባለ ስምምነት ኮንሴሽን መሰጣጠት ያለ ቢሆንም ውሎ ሲያድር buyer's remorse የሚባለው ነገር ይመጣል ። ያም ማለት ስምምነቱን አለመቀበልን ያስከትላል ።

But ENDF can over-run TPLF positions and take control of MeQelle at any time of its choice if TPLF is to walk back on the agreement. We heard that it was the back door negotiations of the PM and the US that prevented the fall of Meqelle at least a week ago. The last resort for TPLF would have been or could still be running to the bushes and mount a gorilla attack for however long. The great savior for TPLF is the west and, the Abiy administration seems to have won the accolades by giving in to their demands.

The IC may not be interested anymore in supplying the wheats to the Marvins once they know that they have gotten what they wanted and blame the Abiy Administration for failing to comply with the terms of the agreement if they still are demanding some more concessions. TPLF as a potent military force is now a thing of the past...unless Orommuma makes terrible mistakes at the last hours.

[DefendTheTruth]

When the two parties went to South Africa, each has its own unique objectives. In other words, PP & TPLF did not come to agreement for the same reason. In my view, the driving need on the part of TLF is accessing economic social services to Tigray. The only way to accessing Ethiopian resources into Tigray was to to concede to some of PP's demands. TPLF doesn't have the need to disarm itself and return to farming.

On the part of PP, its driving need is not a love of governing Tigray. PP's needs are military; that is, it wants to degrade the war making abilities of TPLF (TDF). If you closely follow public and official comments on the deal, the Tigray side talks about social services and economic recovery while the PP side talks about disarmament and dissolution of TPLF.

In short, TPLF/TDF wants Ethiopian resources while keeping it military strength and Abiy Ahmed want to disarm TDF and establish its authority over Tigray. የተስማሙት ለተመሳሳይ ምክንያት አይደለም። ይህ ነው የስምምነቱ መሰረታዊ ችግር! እንደዚህ ባለ ስምምነት ኮንሴሽን መሰጣጠት ያለ ቢሆንም ውሎ ሲያድር buyer's remorse የሚባለው ነገር ይመጣል ። ያም ማለት ስምምነቱን አለመቀበልን ያስከትላል ።

But ENDF can over-run TPLF positions and take control of MeQelle at any time of its choice if TPLF is to walk back on the agreement. We heard that it was the back door negotiations of the PM and the US that prevented the fall of Meqelle at least a week ago. The last resort for TPLF would have been or could still be running to the bushes and mount a gorilla attack for however long. The great savior for TPLF is the west and, the Abiy administration seems to have won the accolades by giving in to their demands.

The IC may not be interested anymore in supplying the wheats to the Marvins once they know that they have gotten what they wanted and blame the Abiy Administration for failing to comply with the terms of the agreement if they still are demanding some more concessions. TPLF as a potent military force is now a thing of the past...unless Orommuma makes terrible mistakes at the last hours.

But then may I ask why is Amhara resenting this position you described as "take control of MeQelle at any time of its choice"?

Which one of you is talking in the above and below comment from the same nick on the same forum on the same day?

I am not sure the PM understands the magnitude of the resentment in the Amhara community for his consistent betrayal and wishy-washy stands on matters detrimental for the survival of the country as one polity. He talks fervently about the constitution when it serves as a potent weapon to be deployed against those he abhors. By now it is an open secret about what he harbors against the Amhara people and, how he is desperately trying to woo every group that he thinks would stand with him against his potential enemies to his hegemonic aspirations.

Bringing peace without ensuring equality of citizens and holding accountable those who are committing horrendous right violations is unthinkable. The political system that he loves to speak about is riffled with contradictions and sources of instability. When more than half of the country is saying they are not represented in the political system of the country, a wise leader would listen. I don't expect this man to be ready for any meaningful change unless he is forced to. There is so much to pay for down the road. I wish I was wrong.

[Weyane.is.dead]

Tplf should ask their diaspora supporters to come to Tigray and fight See how many of their Fesa.m supporters turn up. Most of them will sing for peace after

[Selam/]

Who cares? በጠጣም ወጠጤዎች ይንከባለሉ፣ ጀርባቸው ሲላጥ ያቆማሉ። I wonder which side moron Ethoash ended up.

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The ወጠጤ young agames particularly those in Baitona, Wedib and a few other groups are more radicals than the old gaurd TPLF. The old gaurd TPLF cannot command and control order in this young radicals who were thought to hate only. Now, they started to bite their own makers by refusing to surrender TPLF accepted.

The ወጠጤ have majority diaspora support while their support in Tigray is not confirmed yet. If we have to speculate little known response onmedias, tegarus are releived and happy about the long awaited peace and the benefit it brings.

Based on the above we can predict that a faction of TPLF that it will call itself TDF will continue guerella attempts and noise of agame narsassists in diaspora will double but this time with deaf ear from their main big time enablers (western officials). They will continue to get media attention from the prostitute media's like CNN and NYTimes

[Right]

may I ask why is Amhara resenting this position you described as "take control of MeQelle

They are the only one who understands and can see afar with in the context of societal structures.

Dismantling the TPLF and destroying it for no return should have been the priority. After sacrificing so many lives and materials PP is back where it was before with a bit of military superiority that will be countered with new TPLF strategies with the help of The US & Egypt. Cut the heads off the venomous snake on the first opportunity you get.

Those who are cheering for this amateurish handlings of this enormous crisis have an agenda or they are a complete morons.

The US now knows Abiye Ahmed very well. They made it clear that he is not their guy. There is a reason why they saved the TPLF.

One can suspect the TPLF will not repeat the mistake of waging a conventional war against 120 millions inhabitants.
Egypt has still a long hand in reaching out to extremist groups in the Ogaden, oromia, Eritrea, Tigrai etc. that can be united under the serpent TPLF. We will see where the next cycle of conflict will be ignited by the TPLF. The TPLF is saved from death and it is not going away by any stretch of imagination.

[Selam/]

ግራ የገባቸው ነቀዝ ወያኔዎች፥ ጦርነቱ በኦፊሴል ሲቆም፣ ቂምና ጥላቻው እየገነፈለ በድጋሚ ሜዳ ላይ አስወጣቸው። እኔ እነዚህን ትኋኖች በአርጩሜና ሣማ ልባቸው እስኪጠፉ መግረፍ ያስፈልጋል ባይ ነኝ።