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Influential Ethiopians, on the "negotiations"!

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Re: Influential Ethiopians, on the "negotiations"!

Post by Zmeselo » 04 Aug 2022, 12:49

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Re: Influential Ethiopians, on the "negotiations"!

Post by Axumezana » 04 Aug 2022, 17:19

These are ordinary people two of them are under Isaias and the other two are under PM Abiy.
Neamin Zeleke and Adargachew Tsige are foot soliders of Isaias and shall always follow his directives. Ambassador Suleiman and the Afar President shall always dance to the tune of PM Abiy .
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Re: Influential Ethiopians, on the "negotiations"!

Post by Weyane.is.dead » 04 Aug 2022, 17:25

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Zmeselo wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 12:49
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Re: Influential Ethiopians, on the "negotiations"!

Post by Sadacha Macca » 04 Aug 2022, 17:34

TPLF is in a tight spot. If they go to war, they'll eventually put the people of tigray in an even worse situation than they're in now. People like Halafi preach war from thousands of miles away, because it's easy to do that, but those back home know the realities of this war and its effects.
The best thing for tigray would be to replace tplf elites with new leaders, but the problem is, they would not be seen as legitimate if abiy and his govt back that party, nor would the tplf ever hesitate to use force against such a new party in tigray. So change will most likely have to come from within, from another popular tigrayan party that has the hearts and minds of the masses, with a goal of replacing TPLF and at the same time, of course as they would say and want, maintain a sense of autonomy for their state.

It's a complex situation and time shall tell what occurs. Despite what many say, I say, PM Abiy withdrawing was needed, because the economy, the army, the overall situation was not sustainable. When TPLF was a conventional force, they were overwhelmed, and subdued, but once the conflict went on and they resorted to the guerrilla war, they become more dangerous and to be honest, fighting a popular guerrilla movement backed by millions on their own turf usually never turns out well for the conventional army that is seen as an occupying force, be it the ENDF, the various militias, or etc. Fighting in tigray, would only hasten the collapse of the already weakened economy that PM Abiy inherited from the looters, and I rather save the rest of Ethiopia than go down with tigray, as bad as that may sound to some.

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Re: Influential Ethiopians, on the "negotiations"!

Post by Hawzen » 04 Aug 2022, 19:12

Sadacha Macca wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 17:34
TPLF is in a tight spot. If they go to war, they'll eventually put the people of tigray in an even worse situation than they're in now. People like Halafi preach war from thousands of miles away, because it's easy to do that, but those back home know the realities of this war and its effects.
The best thing for tigray would be to replace tplf elites with new leaders, but the problem is, they would not be seen as legitimate if abiy and his govt back that party, nor would the tplf ever hesitate to use force against such a new party in tigray. So change will most likely have to come from within, from another popular tigrayan party that has the hearts and minds of the masses, with a goal of replacing TPLF and at the same time, of course as they would say and want, maintain a sense of autonomy for their state.

It's a complex situation and time shall tell what occurs. Despite what many say, I say, PM Abiy withdrawing was needed, because the economy, the army, the overall situation was not sustainable. When TPLF was a conventional force, they were overwhelmed, and subdued, but once the conflict went on and they resorted to the guerrilla war, they become more dangerous and to be honest, fighting a popular guerrilla movement backed by millions on their own turf usually never turns out well for the conventional army that is seen as an occupying force, be it the ENDF, the various militias, or etc. Fighting in tigray, would only hasten the collapse of the already weakened economy that PM Abiy inherited from the looters, and I rather save the rest of Ethiopia than go down with tigray, as bad as that may sound to some.
Obbo Sadacha,

I don't know if you have gotten the chance to follow interviews and speeches given by the agame elites inside Tigray and specially the the three parties ( TIP, Salsay Woyane and Baytona). I know you don't expect this from me as an Eritrean but I will tell you that TPLF is the most moderate by far towards Ethiopia and the region. You might ask how about the other parties such as Arena, Tigray Democratic Party (TDP) led by Dr. Aregawi.. Well, these two parties don't have supporters in Tigray. In fact, they are considered by the majority of agames as traitors .... Obviously, you and I know that the diaspora agame elites hate Ethiopia so much and that there is no really hope for their people from the diaspora. As you have said Yes, it is very complex situation because most agame elites believe that Tigray is more powerful than Ethiopia, Eritrea and Sudan combined militarily and economically while in fact the people of Tigray have been suffering from hanger and war casualties....

In my opinion, the solution comes only when the agame elites start to become sober from their superiority complexity ego and their empty bravado. Till then, I don't see any solution and their people will suffer more for longer time....

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

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